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PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SERGEANT. THE TIME IS 6 P.M. AND THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALLED TO ORDER. WE HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM ATTENDING IN PERSON. AND NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND AT THE FORT BEND ISD ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS. FIRST IN OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP THIS[3.A. Proposed Boundary Scenario(s) for Ferndell Henry Elementary]
EVENING, SO WE ARE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR INFORMATION ITEM ON THE PROPOSED BOUNDARY SCENARIOS FOR FERNDALE HENRY ELEMENTARY. AND I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU, DOCTOR SMITH.ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD EVENING TRUSTEES AND STAFF AND THOSE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE. SO HAVE JUST A FEW COMMENTS AS WE BEGIN OUR PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING. IN JANUARY, I SHARED MY COMMITMENT TO JUST HAVING ONGOING CHECK INS WITH YOU AS A BOARD AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF WALK ALONGSIDE US AS WE GO THROUGH THE BOUNDARY PLANNING PROCESS, SPECIFICALLY FOR FERNDALE. HENRY ELEMENTARY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CONNECT TONIGHT WITH OUR BOARD PRIORITY NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS TO CREATE AND SUSTAIN A CULTURE AND A CLIMATE OF PROFESSIONALISM, ACCOUNTABILITY AND COMMUNICATION WHERE OUR STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH INCLUDE OUR STUDENTS, OUR PARENTS AND STAFF ARE VALUED, INSPIRED AND ENGAGED. AND YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION IS REALLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH BOARD PRIORITY NUMBER TWO. THE CHECK INS ARE IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO BUILD TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY. WE CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE OUR EFFORTS AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. AND SO AS IT RELATES TO FERNDALE, JUST A REMINDER, AS WE KIND OF GET OUR MINDS WRAPPED AROUND TONIGHT, WE'RE STARTING WITH FERNDALE ELEMENTARY FIRST. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LONG TERM PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH. THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE STARTING VERY QUICKLY AFTER WE GET THROUGH TONIGHT. BUT OF COURSE, FERNDALE IS OPENING THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND ESTABLISH A TIMELINE THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE PARENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED THE MOST AS WE TRANSITION TO FERNDALE, WE HAVE THREE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH TONIGHT. ONE IS JUST THE REALITY THAT THERE IS NO SILVER MAGIC BULLET. SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS. WE KNOW AT THE TWO EXTREME EXTREME ENDS OF THE DISTRICT, WE HAVE INCREDIBLE GROWTH. AND WE LEARNED THAT THE OTHER DAY AS WE WERE MEETING WITH. SO WE ARE FACTORING ALL OF THAT IN. WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT IN THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL BE RECEIVING TONIGHT TO HAVE A WINDOW OF TIME WHERE WE CAN KIND OF MINIMIZE THE TRANSITION FOR STUDENTS. SO WE'RE HOPING TO ESTABLISH A 3 TO 5 YEAR WINDOW SO THAT WE CAN REALLY MANAGE OUR WAY THROUGH. SO YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE IN TERMS OF EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING IN TERMS OF JUST NO SILVER BULLET AND NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO COMPLETELY SOLVE THE CURRENT CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'LL DO THREE THINGS TONIGHT. ONE, WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE YOU ON THE BOUNDARY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE SBAC COMMITTEE. WE'LL ALSO BE HEARING FROM MISS SUSAN WALDRON. I THINK SHE'S RIGHT THERE. YEP. I WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE WAS HERE THIS EVENING. WE'LL BE HEARING FROM HER THIS EVENING AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIR. THE SECOND THING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING BOUNDARIES SCENARIOS, I THINK. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO MAKE A FACE WITH A NAME WITH BOB TEMPLETON. HE WAS AT OUR MEETING WHEN PASTA WAS HERE, BUT HE'S GOING TO BE THE LEAD PRESENTER TONIGHT PRESENTING THE SCENARIOS. THE SCENARIOS ADDRESS IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR BALANCING THE ENROLLMENT AT HERITAGE, ROSE AND FERNDALE WITH THE GOAL OF NOT OF NOT HAVING A LARGE SCALE CHANGE FOR PARENTS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, I MENTIONED PROVIDING SOME STABILITY FOR A 3 TO 5 YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN THIRD, WE WANT TO OVERVIEW THE NEXT STEPS TO ENGAGE OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S A STAKEHOLDER SURVEY THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE LATER ON THIS MONTH. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET FEEDBACK AND WE GET PERSPECTIVE FROM THOSE THAT WILL BE AFFECTED THE MOST. AS YOU ENGAGE TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ON TRACK WITH OUR TIMELINES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS THAT AT THE WELL, NOT AT THE DIAS, BUT IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'VE GOT THE LARGER MAPS THAT YOU REQUESTED. WE'VE GOT THE NEIGHBORHOODS SELECTED ON THERE AND THE
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POWERPOINT INFORMATION, ALL DESIGNED TO HELP YOU KIND OF FOLLOW ALONG. PYLE IS GOING TO LEAD THE PRESENTATION. SHE'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH NEXT STEPS. AND THEN OF COURSE SHE AND MR. TEMPLETON WILL WORK TOGETHER IN PRESENTING. AND WE'LL HAVE TIME TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN PREPARE FOR NEXT STEPS. SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS PANDA. IF YOU COME ON UP AND BEGIN. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DOCTOR SMITH. GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT MR. DOCTOR SMITH SO ELOQUENTLY STATED THAT I HAVE ON MY SLIDE HERE TODAY. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THREE PRESENTERS MYSELF, FIRST, TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATION PROCESS, PROVIDE CHECKPOINTS ON OUR TIMELINE AND WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS. AND THEN REMIND THE GROUP AND THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING TODAY, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE HAVE. YOU'LL ALSO HEAR FROM OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY CHAIR, SUSAN WALDRON, FOLLOWED BY ZONDA, TO PROVIDE A BACKGROUND ON WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE DISTRICT. AND MR. TEMPLETON WILL THEN WALK THROUGH HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW WE ARRIVED AT THAT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. AND SO BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATION PROCESS. IT IS A COLLECTIVE APPROACH THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS, BEGINNING WITH PARSA, WHOM WE HEARD FROM ON FEBRUARY 3RD FOR THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY. AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WORKED THROUGH OUR TEN YEAR ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS. AND THAT IS THE START OF WHERE THE BOUNDARY PROCESS REALLY BEGINS. AND THEN WE HAVE ZONDA THAT WILL COME IN AND REVIEW AND ASSESS THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY AND PROVIDE THOUGHTFUL INFORMATION ON HOW AND WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING. ADMINISTRATION COMES IN, WE REVIEW, WE SEEK CLARITY, AND WE ENSURE THAT THERE'S CHECKS AND BALANCES BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE TEN YEAR OUTLOOK, IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTIONS AND WHAT OUR BOUNDARY PLANNER IS PROVIDING AS RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THERE IS A FLOW OF REALLY SEEKING THAT CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING THE WHY BEHIND IT. BEFORE WE THEN ENGAGE WITH OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OUR BOARD AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A INTEGRAL PIECE WHERE EACH OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS REVIEWS, SEEKS CLARITY AND ALSO PROVIDES FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE CALL DECISION PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN POLICY FC, LOCAL AND WHERE I WANT. I KIND OF WANT TO BRING UP THE POINT OF WHERE PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT MOMENTARILY AS WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDERS BETWEEN THE B, C AND D ZONDA ADMINISTRATION AND OUR BOARD, COMMUNITY AND SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I WANT EACH OF YOU TO KNOW, AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW, THAT THIS IS A WORKFLOW THAT MAY GO BACK AND FORTH AS WE SEEK OUR ANSWERS. WE MAY BE DRIVING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ASKING THE EXPERTS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THAT BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATION LOOK LIKE? IS IT GOING TO PROVIDE ENOUGH RELIEF? WHY? AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TO WHERE? THEN IT FINALLY GETS TO ADMINISTRATION AND BOARD TO REVIEW THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT? WHAT WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY SAYING? HOW MIGHT THEY BE IMPACTED? AND ENSURING THAT, AGAIN, WHERE PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE, WE'RE ADDRESSING THE DECISION PRINCIPLES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN POLICY FC LOCAL. AND SO THIS TIMELINE IS A SNAPSHOT OF ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT I JUST MENTIONED. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE HERE IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE RECENTLY HEARD FROM PASA AND THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD. WE'VE ENGAGED WITH OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE MET WITH THEM ON FEBRUARY THE 5TH, WHERE THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEEP DIVE QUICKLY IN TERMS OF WHAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED IN TERMS OF THE DATA, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING AND GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF EXERCISES ON DECISION PRINCIPLES AND WHAT THEY MEAN FOR A BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN PUBLIC FEEDBACK BEGINS HERE TOO. AND SO AS YOU WALK THROUGH AND SORT OF WEAVE THROUGH THIS TIMELINE, THIS THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF HOW WE'RE ENGAGING WITH EACH STAKEHOLDER GROUP IN THE TOUCH POINTS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE MONTHS. AND SO AS WE GET TO MARCH, THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK ENDS, AND THAT THAT'S BRINGING US TO A FINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE BOARD ON MARCH THE 20TH 27TH. AND THEN WE GET FINAL APPROVAL IN APRIL. AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST, I THINK, FROM EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND THOSE WATCHING AND LISTENING, THAT LONG RANGE PLANNING IS A VERY HOT TOPIC. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO EACH OF US. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THESE MONTHS TO WHERE WE CAN THEN BEGIN LOOKING AT. AND I THINK WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE HAVE MR. TEMPLETON HERE AND ZONDA TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICT
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LANDSCAPE AND HOW AND WHEN WE CAN BEGIN THAT LONG RANGE PLANNING. AND SO I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME IMPORTANT STEPS TO GET THERE AND OPENING FOR DEL HENRY.BUT AGAIN, THIS THIS TIMELINE WILL PROVIDE THAT SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND SO AS A REMINDER, OUR SCOPE OF WORK, WE ARE HERE TO RELIEVE AND LOOK AT HERITAGE ROSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ESTABLISH A NEW ATTENDANCE COMMUNITY FOR FERNDALE. HENRY. THE CURRENT SITUATION AT HERITAGE ROSE IS THERE'S 12 PORTABLES AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THEY HAVE A CAPACITY OF, YOU KNOW, JUST SHORTLY OVER 1100 STUDENTS FERNDALE HENRY WILL HAVE A CAPACITY OF 720 AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO STEAL MR. TEMPLETON'S THUNDER, BUT THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS PUZZLE COMES INTO PLAY IS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A CAMPUS THAT HAS A LOT OF UTILIZATION RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE OPENING A NEARBY CAMPUS WITH THE CAPACITY OF 720. AND SO HOW DO YOU FIT THOSE PIECES OF THAT PUZZLE TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING ONE CAMPUS, BUT BEING ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY OPEN ANOTHER WHILE ALSO KEEPING THAT LONG RANGE PLAN IN MIND. AND SO AS I HIGHLIGHTED THE WORK THAT WE DID WITH OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE LOOKED AT OUR DECISION PRINCIPLES. AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE ARE ABBREVIATED DECISION PRINCIPLES FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO REVIEW AND SEE THE FULL DEFINITIONS. THOSE ARE FOUND IN OUR POLICY FC LOCAL. AND THEY'RE CATEGORIZED BY TOPIC AREAS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN OUR POLICY. AND SO YOU'LL SEE FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE MAROON COMMUNITY, INTEGRITY MAY INCLUDE DECISION PRINCIPLES ON SAFELY HOUSING OUR STUDENTS IN ALIGNING STUDENT TRANSITIONS WITHIN A FEEDER PATTERN, SUPPORTING A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL CONCEPT WHERE FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL. AND SO I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT AND THE ASSIGNING NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SAME SCHOOL. WE HAVE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES IN THIS DISTRICT. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THOSE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES ARE NOT CONSIDERED NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THOSE ARE FAMILIAR WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIENNA AREA. THERE'S NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE FEASIBLE TO ASSIGN A WHOLE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY TO A SCHOOL. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER TOPIC AREAS WITHIN THE POLICY THAT ADDRESS GROWTH PROJECTIONS. AND SO ARE WE UTILIZING OUR FACILITIES TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY? ARE WE ADDRESSING OUR STUDENT NEEDS THROUGH PROGRAMING EFFORTS AND ALIGNING BOUNDARIES THAT THAT WITHSTAND TIME AND AGAIN, THE CAVEAT THERE IS WHERE FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL, AND MR. TEMPLETON WILL BE ABLE TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF THE DECISION PRINCIPLE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, LOOKING AT OUR FINANCIAL IMPACT, ARE WE CONSIDERING WHEN WE DO THESE BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATIONS? ARE WE TALKING TO OUR TRANSPORTATION TEAM? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S COSTS THAT MAY BE INCURRED WITH THAT. ARE WE CONSIDERING STAFFING BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATIONS MAY COME CERTAIN STAFF, ARE WE ABLE TO SHIFT STAFF TO ANOTHER CAMPUS OR IS THIS A IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE WE MAY NEED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF. AND SO THOSE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE ARE ALSO CRITICAL WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BOUNDARY RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE BACK MOMENTARILY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE SUSAN WALDRON. SHE WAS NOMINATED AS THE CHAIR OF OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. TO BE ABLE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE WORK THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS DONE SO FAR AND THE WORK THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON WITH THE COMMITTEE. SO, SUSAN. THANK YOU. IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT. WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY AS A COMMUNITY. WE STARTED ACTUALLY DECEMBER 11TH BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. SO WE'VE CAME TOGETHER THAT NIGHT AND ALL THE FEEDER PATTERNS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS WAS REPRESENTED, AND WE WERE INTRODUCED TO FC LOCAL FOR THE FIRST TIME. I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT DOCUMENT MYSELF, BUT IT WE WERE WENT OVER IT WITH GREAT DETAIL AND REALLY GOT A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE DECISION PRINCIPLES AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE WAS GOING TO BE, AND WHAT OUR CHARGE WAS GOING TO BE AS THE SBAC. WE CALENDARED ALL OF OUR MEETINGS AND SAID WE WOULD RECONVENE AFTER THE HOLIDAYS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID. AND FEBRUARY 3RD, WE CAME HERE FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING THAT WAS CALLED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO LISTEN FIRSTHAND TO PODCZAS DEMOGRAPHIC REPORT AND GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE FOR THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION. SINCE OUR COMMITTEE IS NOT ONLY GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS FERNDALE, HENRY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ALSO BE INVOLVED THE NEXT YEAR FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN MASTER PLANNING. SO WE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THE TEN YEAR PROJECTIONS THERE. AND THEN FEBRUARY 5TH, TWO DAYS LATER, WE HAD OUR FIRST REAL WORK SESSION, AND WE SPENT A FEW HOURS GOING OVER AGAIN, THE FC LOCAL AND THE POLICIES THERE, AND
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UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY WAS GOING TO BE REVIEWED, THE DECISION PRINCIPLES, AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CLEAR ON WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT. AND ZONDA PRESENTED TWO SCENARIOS WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR WORKBOOKS TONIGHT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE INCORPORATED DATA POINTS THAT PASA HAD DONE AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GEARING TOWARDS THE FIRST SCENARIO AND THE SECOND SCENARIO, AND THE SECOND SCENARIO WAS THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EVENING, MARCH 5TH. WE INTEND TO HAVE A FIELD TRIP, AND WE'RE GOING TO CLIMB ON A BUS AND DRIVE OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CRYSTAL ON WHAT THE FEEDER PATTERN LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE AND WHO'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND HOW. AND THEN MARCH 19TH WILL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER WORK SESSION AND SIT DOWN AND REVIEW THE INPUT THAT WE HOPE TO GET FROM YOU ALL THIS EVENING, AND THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL HAVE ON THE 26TH, AND WHAT THE FIELD TRIP IMPRESSIONS WERE. AND THEN AGAIN, MEET WITH ZONDA THAT EVENING AND DISCUSS FULLY WHAT THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. IT'S BEEN A VERY BUSY TIME. I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL TIMELINE WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS, AND THINGS WERE MOVED VERY QUICKLY, BUT AS A COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT WE ALL FEEL THAT WE WERE GIVEN GREAT INPUT FROM ADMINISTRATION. WE WERE GIVEN GREAT DETAIL ON THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND WHAT YOU ALL WERE LOOKING TO HAVE DONE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES BEFORE YOU, AND WE'RE HERE TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO SAY WHAT WE THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SUSAN. SO AS SHE MENTIONED ON ON FEBRUARY THE 5TH, WE MET WITH OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE HAD THEM REVIEW THE POLICY AND THEN WE HAD THEM LOOK AT THE DECISION PRINCIPLES AND LOOK AT WHAT MR. TEMPLETON AND ZONDA PRESENTED AS TO PROPOSED BOUNDARY SCENARIOS. THERE WERE SOME VERY GOOD AND RICH QUESTIONS IN THAT SESSION.FIRST QUESTION BEING AND MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME IS WHY TOO. AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO STEAL MR. TEMPLETON'S THUNDER, BUT HE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT. SO HE PROVIDED TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT. AND THEN THEY WENT THROUGH A SERIES OF EXERCISES WHERE THEY LOOKED AT A DECISION PRINCIPLE AND BASICALLY WENT THROUGH A SURVEY TO SEE IS THAT DECISION PRINCIPLE ALIGNED WITH THE BOUNDARY SCENARIO PRESENTED. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, THESE ARE ABBREVIATED DECISION PRINCIPLES. IN THE SCENARIO, ONE THAT WAS SHARED WITH THE GROUP, WE HAD ABOUT 33% SAY THAT THEY FELT THAT THAT SCENARIO MET THE DECISION PRINCIPLES. WHEREAS IN SCENARIO TWO, THE EXERCISE THAT THEY WENT THROUGH WAS 100%. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE COLUMNS, THEY WILL NOT ADD UP TO 100% BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY THEY LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE, AT SAFELY HOW STUDENTS, INDEPENDENTLY OF THE FOLLOWING DECISION PRINCIPLES. AND SO AGAIN, THEY WENT THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE TO ALIGN WITH THE SCENARIOS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THEM. THE ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING, WE HAD 18 OF 25 SBAC MEMBERS REPRESENTED. AND SO I WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE THAT'S I KNOW THAT'S CRITICAL AND ATTENDANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR WORK LIKE THIS ON A TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE. AND SO THE GRAPH THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT PART OF THE SLIDE WILL SHOW THE REPRESENTATION OF WHO WAS AT THAT MEETING. AND SO AS POLICY INDICATES, WHEN THERE IS A IMPACTED BOUNDARY, WE WILL HAVE THREE MEMBERS SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY. SO THE ALTERNATE FOR EXAMPLE IN CRAWFORD WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT COMMITTEE. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 25. WE OFFERED MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO ATTEND A MAKEUP SESSION. AND SO WE WERE EXCITED THAT WE HAD TWO MORE JUMP ON BOARD AND PARTICIPATE IN A VIRTUAL MAKEUP SESSION. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS FROM THE STAFF TO REALLY GET IN THERE. AS, AS I THINK SUSAN WAS SAYING, THERE'S A LOT OF EMAIL COMMUNICATION AND PHONE CALLS TO TRY AND GET AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS WE CAN.
AND WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED SO FAR, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THAT THAT LIFE HAPPENS. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SBAC IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE WORK IMPACTS, THERE MAY BE FAMILY IMPACTS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF, OF HAVING THE PARTICIPATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD
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LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. TEMPLETON TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE SCENARIOS. WELL THANK YOU.IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. AS WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN JANUARY. WE ARE DOING ABOUT A DOZEN OF THESE PROJECTS WITH MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE REGION, AND I'VE BEEN DOING ATTENDANCE ZONE PLANNING FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. MY TASK WAS TO QUICKLY LEARN FROM THE REPORT, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE HOUSING MARKET. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, YOU'RE STILL BUILDING SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF HOUSING. YOU'RE BUILDING ABOUT 2300 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES PER YEAR. THERE'S TWO REGIONS WHERE THAT'S THE STRONGEST, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE REGIONS WHERE THE HOUSING IS STILL VERY STRONG IN THIS REGION OF THAT KIND OF SOUTH QUADRANT OF THE DISTRICT THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW. THERE'S STILL ABOUT 4500 FUTURE LOTS IN THAT AREA. SO THIS, YOU KNOW, LED ME TO KIND OF DIVE INTO THE SCHOOLS IN THAT REGION.
AND NOW THIS IS THE FORECASTED DATA FROM THE CASA REPORT. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THE RED COLUMNS, THE RED ROWS OR CELLS, THOSE ARE THE ENROLLMENT AREAS THAT ARE EXCEEDING THE CAPACITY. THE YELLOW SHADED AREAS ARE IN THAT LESS THAN 80%. THE GREEN ARE IN THAT 80 TO 100% CAPACITY. BUT WHAT I'LL POINT OUT FROM THIS SET OF THIS SLIDE, WHEN YOU ADD IN THE FERNDALE HENRY CAPACITY, THAT PUTS YOUR TOTAL CAPACITY AT ABOUT 6667 67, 67 IS THE TOTAL CAPACITY WHEN YOU ADD IN FERNDALE. HENRY. AND WHEN YOU GO OUT USING THE PASSIVE FORECAST, YOU WILL EXCEED TOTAL CAPACITY IN FOUR YEARS, 4 TO 5 YEARS. YOU WILL BE AT THAT TOTAL CAPACITY. THAT'S WHAT LED ME FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND MY TIME DOING THIS. I LIKE TO GO MY FIRST APPROACH AS WHAT'S THE LEAST SIMPLEST APPROACH THAT I CAN DO, BECAUSE THE GROUNDWORK IS ABOUT TO CHANGE DRAMATICALLY. WHEN I SAY THE GROUNDWORK IS CHANGING, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY THAT'S COMING IN TERMS OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS STARTING OFF WITH A PUSH FOR CHOICE, EXPANSION OF VOUCHER EDUCATION SAVINGS ACCOUNT. HOWEVER, IT ENDS UP GETTING LABELED. THAT'S ONE PIECE OF THE LANDSCAPE THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. THE SECOND, ULTIMATELY WILL BE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE EDUCATION FUNDING. SO GOVERNOR ABBOTT IS DETERMINED TO GET THE VOUCHER ESTABLISHED FIRST BEFORE HE BEGINS TO ADDRESS THE SPENDING. SO THOSE ARE TWO PIECES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE HARMONY SCIENCE ACADEMY CHARTER OPENING IN TWO YEARS. THAT'S IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS QUADRANT.
SO THIS AREA WILL BE FACED WITH THAT. SO IN LOOKING AT A, A MINIMAL APPROACH TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGE OF THE HERITAGE ROLL ROSE ENROLLMENT BEING, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 1400 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW AND GROWING AT A VERY STRONG RATE. THAT'S WHAT LED ME TO THIS PLAN. ONE. AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND, WHEN I STARTED WITH PLAN ONE, THE PLANNING AREAS WERE WERE DIFFERENT. AND SO THIS PLAN WAS STARTED BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PLANNING AREAS. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE THREE LITTLE PLANNING AREAS THAT ARE OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FERNDALE. HENRY. THOSE WERE PLANNING AREAS THAT I RECOMMENDED TO BE SPLIT SO THAT WE COULD GET TO A PLAN TWO. BUT PLAN ONE STARTS WITH A VERY SIMPLE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN FERNDALE HENRY AND BETWEEN HERITAGE ROSE, AND IT DID NOT TOUCH THE OTHER ELEMENTARY ZONES BECAUSE I DID EXPLORE CASCADING OR MOVING TO MOVE, TO MOVE. AND WHEN I DID THAT, I JUST PUSHED THAT OVERCROWDING TO LIONETTI. IF I MOVED A PORTION INTO LIONETTI, I NEEDED TO MOVE A PORTION OUT OF LIONETTI INTO SCANLAN OAKS. I NEEDED TO DO MULTIPLE MOVES. AND BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT, WITH THE VOUCHERS AND FUNDING AND HARMONY, I OPTED TO STICK TO A PLAN THAT WAS LEAST AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT TO SOLVE MY CHALLENGE. SO THIS WAS A STARTER PLAN TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH THIS STARTER PLAN. IT DOES HAVE THE PRE-K AND THE BILINGUAL STAYING AT HERITAGE ROSE. AND YOU CAN SEE UNDER THIS PLAN FERNDALE HENRY WOULD WOULD START AT ABOUT 709 STUDENTS. IT WOULD BE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER IN 26, 27. WE'VE GOT TWO YEARS OF TIME OUT OF HERITAGE ROSE BEFORE IT
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EXCEEDS ITS CAPACITY IN THE 2728. WHEN I REVIEWED THIS PLAN WITH THE COMMITTEE, I TOLD THEM THIS WAS REALLY NOT MY FAVORITE PLAN. THIS WAS JUST A STARTER PLAN, JUST TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT AT 100%, 102% UTILIZATION IN 2627 FOR FERNDALE, HENRY AND LIONETTI SIENNA CROSSING AT 104. IT IS MY OPINION THAT BY 2029, ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE NEEDED. AND SO AS I'M DRAWING PLANS, I'M HESITANT TO MOVE TO MOVE WHEN ULTIMATELY THE PLANS ARE GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S WHAT LED TO THIS PLAN FORMATION BEING A MINIMAL PLAN. SO I'LL GO BACK TO THESE PLANNING AREAS. I DID RECOMMEND THAT WE SPLIT THESE PLANNING AREAS IN THE FERNDALE HENRY PORTION OF THIS ZONE. THAT'S WHAT LED TO PLAN TWO. SO PLAN TWO TAKES TWO SECTIONS OF CALDWELL RANCH AND LEAVES THEM AT HERITAGE ROSE. SO IT'S NOT A CHANGE. THEY JUST THEY STAY AT THE SCHOOL THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ATTENDING. THIS MOVE DID IMPROVE THE UTILIZATION. AND AGAIN, IT'S FOLLOWING THAT THEME THAT I'M STARTING WITH ON A MINIMALIST MOVEMENT. WHILE WE'RE IN THESE TIMES OF UNCERTAINTY, HERE'S WHAT IT DOES TO THESE NUMBERS.YOU CAN SEE HERITAGE ROSE STARTS WITH ABOUT 1038 AND FERNDALE HENRY IS AT ABOUT 5.95. YOU CAN SEE HERITAGE ROSE GETS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER ABOUT 40 STUDENTS OVER IN 26, 27. AND THEN IT GETS TO 1400. THIS IS STILL A GROWTH AREA. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT MOVING SOME OF THOSE GROWTH POCKETS OUT, I JUST FLIPPED MY CHALLENGE OF BEING OVERCROWDED TO THE NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS. IT'S THAT SECTION OF SIENNA THAT IS JUST GETTING STARTED. THAT'S IN THE EDGE OF THE CURRENT FERNDALE. HENRY. EXCUSE ME, IT'S IN THE CURRENT HERITAGE ROSE ZONE. IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO LIONETTI, BUT THAT AREA IS KICKING OFF GROWING VERY STRONG.
THAT'S THE POCKET THAT'S GOT ABOUT 3400 FUTURE LOTS. THAT IS THE NEXT BIG PUSH IN SIENNA.
THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH IF YOU MOVE THOSE, YOU GOT TO MOVE MULTIPLE. AND IN THE END IN FIVE YEARS WE'RE STILL BEYOND TOTAL CAPACITY. HERE'S WHAT IT DOES TO THE UTILIZATION. ALSO CONSIDER THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THE POSSIBLE FORECAST. AND IT DOES HAVE THOSE SPECIAL PROGRAMS. MAINTAINING AT HERITAGE ROSE FOR PRE-K AND BILINGUAL. NOW I DID GET A REQUEST ON SOME ADDITIONAL MAPS TO HELP YOU WITH UNDERSTANDING THE NUMBERS. OUR TEAM WILL BE MAKING THESE MAPS THAT ILLUSTRATE THE CURRENT AND ELEMENTARY NUMBERS BY PLANNING AREA. AND I'LL ALSO ADD A FIVE YEAR FORECASTED NUMBER FOR THAT AS WELL. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YES. SO I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT AND LET THE TRUSTEES ASK SOME QUESTIONS RIGHT HERE. JUST BEFORE WE GET TO THE RECAP AND STUFF. WHILE YOU'RE YOU'RE STANDING THERE AND CAN ANSWER SOME. MISS HANNAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING I DID. SO CAN YOU PUT THE MAP BACK. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A POINTER. IS THERE A POINTER. I CAN USE ONE OF THESE OKAY. IT YES OKAY. IT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL TO ME IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO PLAN ONE AND PLAN TWO. I MEAN I CAN SEE THE NUMBERS, BUT FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE ON THE MAPS. IT'S THESE THESE TWO AREAS RIGHT HERE WHICH ARE SECTIONS OF CALDWELL RANCH, OKAY, THAT ARE IN PLAN ONE. THEY ARE AT FERNDALE. HENRY. SO PRETTY MUCH ALL OF CALDWELL RANCH IS IN FERNDALE. HENRY IN PLAN ONE. BUT IN PLAN TWO, TWO SECTIONS OF CALDWELL RANCH WOULD STAY AT HERITAGE ROSE. AND THE REASON I LOOKED AT THESE TWO, THEY CONNECT ACROSS THE ROAD HERE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH DOES GIVE THEM SOME ACCESS TO GET TO HERITAGE ROSE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME OVER TO. I BELIEVE THAT'S 521 521 SO THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED ME TO LOOK AT THESE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS WAS THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT AT HERITAGE ROSE. AND THEIR ACCESS TO AVOID. 521. 22 YEAH, EXPANDED. ALSO ON THIS, IS THERE SOMETHING EXPANDED ON THE BOTTOM OF HER OF PLAN TWO AS COMPARED TO LIKE UNDER FERGUSON?
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CAN CAN WE FLIP BACK TO IS THE IS THE PART UNDER OKAY. IT'S THE SAME SAME. YEAH OKAY. THESE TRULY ARE THE HOW HOW MUCH OF THAT AREA WHERE YOU KNOW, I CALL IT LIKE THE LITTLE BODY PART AGAINST THE RIVER WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE HERE, BUT HOW MUCH OF THAT IS FLOOD PLAIN IN THE BROWN? THE, THE, THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE SECTIONED OFF IS HERITAGE FERNDALE. RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE A FLOODPLAIN MAP. SO I WILL CREATE A FLOOD PLAIN MAP. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE KNOW WE KNOW WE'RE HOUSED IN. IF THERE IS JUST A WAY FOR US TO BETTER THE PLANNING MAPS THAT SHOW WHERE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE VERSUS THE FLOOD PLAIN RIGHT THERE ALONG THE RIVER. OKAY, THERE'S DEFINITELY FUTURE HOUSING HAPPENING IN THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE FERGUSON ZONE IN THIS AREA. THERE'S ALSO SOME HOUSING IN THIS PORTION OF LEE, AND THIS IS THAT PORTION THAT I REFERENCED THAT STARTING RIGHT HERE. THAT'S WHERE THE SIENNA NEXT BIG PUSH IS. THIS AREA HERE. AND THIS IS WHERE THERE'S OVER 3400 FUTURE LOTS IN THIS SECTION. SO THIS WAS MY PUT. THESE BLACK OUTLINES ARE THE POSSIBLE PLANNING UNITS. SO THEN WHEN I TRIED TO MOVE THIS AROUND IT CREATES SUCH A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH IN THIS PLANNING AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS HANNAN. AND I'LL JUST SAY BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I LIVE, THEY HAVE BUILT SO FLOOD PLAIN IS THEY'RE BUILDING WITHOUT REGARD TO THAT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO LIVE BACK HERE AND THEY'RE BUILDING ALL ALONG THERE. IN FACT, THEY'RE TAKING THE LEVEE DOWN AND FLATTENING IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO I WE CAN PUT THE FLOODPLAIN UP THERE. BUT WE PROBABLY ALSO NEED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE THEY MAY BE RE DESIGNATING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING ALL BACK THERE. SO JUST OKAY. WELL JUST YOU KNOW HOWEVER SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROJECTED LOTS THERE AND THEN THE 3400 OR SO YOU'RE SAYING ARE COMING UP THERE. YES. 3400 IN THIS, THAT THOSE ARE ALREADY PRELIMINARILY PLATTED. SO THEY'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE BUILDING THOSE. OKAY. OKAY. MR. HAMILTON. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF QUICK BACKGROUND. SO NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS ABOUT TRUSTEE HANNAN AND MYSELF, BUT I THINK WE WORK TOGETHER GREAT ON THE ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE. AND SO AFTER THE LAST ROUND OF ZONING WE FELT LIKE, WELL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK TRUSTEE HANNAN, AT LEAST YOU CAN SPEAK FOR YOURSELF HOW MUCH YOU AGREE WITH THIS. I THINK YOU AGREE WITH QUITE A BIT OF IT. SO WE FELT LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE, THE PASTA AND THE, THE BOUNDARY PLANNER AT THE TIME, THEY, THEY CAME UP WITH THE, WITH THE, THE SOLUTIONS THAT THEY WANTED, AND THEY WERE KIND OF COMMITTED TO THOSE SOLUTIONS EARLY ON BEFORE THEY CAME TO THE BOARD AND TO THE COMMITTEE. IT WAS THE SPOKE AT THAT TIME, OVERSIGHT CHANGED TO ADVISORY.AND SO THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT TO GO THAT GOES INTO THIS, OBVIOUSLY. AND SO THERE ARE TRADE OFFS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU CHANGE OVER HERE HAS A BUNCH OF DOMINO EFFECTS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. AND SO AS THE BOARD AND THE COMMITTEE ASK QUESTIONS AND. AND EXPRESS CONCERNS WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TWO YEARS AGO, THE ADMINISTRATION WAS KIND OF ALREADY COMMITTED, IT SEEMED LIKE, TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN. AND SO THERE REALLY WEREN'T CHANGES MADE TO IT. SO WE, WE BUT WE I KNOW WE AGREED ON A LOT OF THAT THROUGH THAT. AND SO A LOT OF WHAT'S IN THE POLICY NOW GUIDING THIS CAME OUT OF THAT. AND SO, MISS WALDRON, THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR FIRST CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE TO COME ADDRESS THE BOARD LIKE THIS. THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT WAS BECAUSE WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EARLY IN THE PROCESS, THE COMMITTEE WAS INVOLVED AND THE BOARD WAS INVOLVED, SO THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATION GETS COMMITTED TO CERTAIN SOLUTIONS, CERTAIN CERTAIN IDEAS OR CHANGES TO THE TO THE BOUNDARY PLANNING. AND SO IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT, THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMITTEE IS, IS MORE INVOLVED AND, AND GETTING SOME BETTER INFORMATION AND, AND THEIR FEEDBACK IS BEING VALUED IN THE PROCESS, HOPEFULLY BETTER THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES IN THE ROOM VERSUS TWO YEARS AGO. SO THEN I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ALSO ON SO SCANLON OAKS. SO TWO YEARS AGO, IF WE HAD JUST LOOKED AT THE RESIDENTS IN SCANLON OAKS,
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THEN I THINK WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULD HAVE DONE SOME REZONING THAT IMPACTED SCANLON. SCANLON OAKS TWO YEARS AGO. AND THE REASON AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT. IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD AROUND 300 STUDENTS WHO WERE OVERFLOWED FROM HERITAGE ROADS TO SCANLON OAKS AT THE TIME. AND SO THAT HAS CHANGED TO WHERE THEY'RE NO LONGER OVERFLOWING THE SCANLON OAKS, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF WHY TODAY'S UTILIZATION IN THE TEN YEAR PROJECTION AT SCANLON. SCANLON OAKS, THOSE ARE BOTH SO LOW NOW. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR NOT DOING THE, YOU KNOW, PAST, THE PAST, THE OVERCROWDING ALL ALONG. BUT I DO THINK THAT SO IN PART BECAUSE IT WASN'T ADDRESSED LAST TIME AROUND. AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN HERE TWO YEARS LATER. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH AT LEAST LOOKING AT POSSIBLY SHIFTING THE VILLAGE OF SHIPMAN'S LANDING, WHICH USED TO BE IN SCANLON OAKS, AND THAT WOULD BE A RELATIVELY MINOR DISRUPTION. I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF OUR TERMS OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD THEY WOULD BE IN THE SAME MIDDLE SCHOOL, SAME HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY WOULD ONLY BE CHANGING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY MINOR. AND ALSO THERE'S A SECTION OF SHIPMENTS LANDING THAT DOES GO TO SCANLON OAKS. AND SO KIND OF UNITE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN SIENNA AT ONE ELEMENTARY. AND THEN THEY WOULD ALL GO THE SAME ELEMENTARY, SAME MIDDLE SCHOOL, SAME HIGH SCHOOL WITHOUT NECESSARILY GOING TOO FAR OUTSIDE OF THESE TWO SCHOOLS WITH HERITAGE ROADS AND FERNDALE. AND THEN ANOTHER BENEFIT, WITH LIONETTI BEING THE CLOSEST TO FERNDALE AND HERITAGE ROSE. LOOKING AT THE PROJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED OVERFLOW CAPACITY FOR THE TWO SCHOOLS ON 521 AND SO WITH LIONETTI BEING THE CLOSEST, IF WE CAN SHIFT SOME OF THAT ENROLLMENT OVER TO SCANLON OAKS, IT HELPS SCANLON OAKS HAVE HIGHER THEN I THINK IT MAKES WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE IF NEEDED AS AN OVERFLOW FOR THE TWO 521 SCHOOLS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE AS WE PROGRESS. WE WANT TO. THAT'S GREAT THOUGH. THOSE I NEVER INTEND FOR THE STARTER PLAN OR THESE BEGINNING TO BE THE FINAL PLAN. SO THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT FEEDBACK AND THEN I CAN EASILY CRAFT THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE.BUT THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET AGAIN. THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL GENERATE SOME FEEDBACK. SO THAT WAY THE NEXT TIME THE COMMITTEE GETS TOGETHER, THEY'LL HAVE YOUR INPUT, THEY'LL HAVE THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT, AND IT WILL HELP ME TO MAKE A BETTER PLAN TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE ON. AWESOME. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR. MR. TEMPLETON. RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MISS JONES. THANK YOU, MR. TEMPLETON. KEEP THE MAP UP. BECAUSE YOU SAID ON PLAN TWO. SO THAT'S MY STOMPING GROUND. SO I DRIVE THAT AREA PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. AND SO YOU SAID THAT PART OF CALDWELL RANCH IS GOING TO GO TO WILL BE ZONED TO HERITAGE ROSE. AND THEN THE OTHER PART WILL BE ZONED TO FERNDALE. WHAT PART OF CALDWELL RANCH? I'LL HAVE TO GET THE EXACT SECTION NUMBER, BUT I DO HAVE THOSE SECTION NUMBERS. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS SECTION TEN, BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE IT IN MY I THINK SECTION TEN IS BEFORE IS AFTER PYGMY PARK. THAT'S OVER THERE DOWN CALDWELL RANCH BOULEVARD, BECAUSE CALDWELL RANCH HAS TWO SECTIONS. WELL, TWO ONE SIDE IS A ON CRAWFORD.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEAR KINDER SKY AND PYGMY PARK. SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. OKAY, I'LL SEND YOU I'LL SEND THE EXACT SECTIONS AND ZOOM IN. THIS IS DEFINITELY A VERY DISTINCTIVE. YEAH. SUBGROUP. AND THEN THEY'RE PUSHING BACK.
THEY'RE EXPANDING EVEN MORE SO. SO IS IT GOING TO MY QUESTION IS IT GOING TO BE ONE SECTION.
WHO'S ON. IS IT THE SECTION THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CALDWELL RANCH I BELIEVE CALDWELL RANCH ROAD IS THIS ROAD HERE. SO IT IS THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CALDWELL. YEAH. AS YOU PASS CRAWFORD, THEN CALDWELL, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF CALDWELL RANCH THAT FEEDS INTO GLENDALE LAKES. SO I'M MY QUESTION IS, WILL IT BE THAT SIDE OF CALDWELL RANCH RATHER THAN THE SECTIONS THAT ARE ON THE THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CALDWELL RANCH? I I'M I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. BUT WE CAN SEND A GRAPHIC THAT REALLY GIVES YOU STREET LEVEL NAMES AND THE SECTION NUMBERS THAT ARE CALDWELL RANCH. I KNOW IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS, OKAY. FOR THESE TWO AREAS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT LIKE, OKAY,
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BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE MUD. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. WHAT SCHOOL DOES MY CHILD GO TO? AND IT'S BETTER TO COMMUNICATE IT AS WELL. THIS SIDE OF CALDWELL RANCH VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE. SO WE'LL HUNTINGTON HUNTINGTON PLACE BE ZONED TO FERNDALE. YES. OKAY. AND WHERE DOES THIS MAP STOP AT THE ALVIN ISD BOUNDARY. AND WHERE DOES IT START? BECAUSE I SEE JOSEPH. AND SO COUNTY ROAD 56 AND 58, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE. AND SO ARE WE ALSO ZONED. IS THAT OUR AREA AS WELL.AND ARE THOSE SCHOOLS THOSE KIDS WILL BE GOING TO FERNDALE AS WELL. WELL, THE WE DID TAKE THE BOUNDARY TO THE EDGE OF THE DISTRICT'S BOUNDARY. OKAY. SO IT IS THE EDGE OF THE DISTRICT'S BOUNDARY OKAY. IS THE. SO ALL OF THAT IN BROWN IS OURS FERNDALE HENRY IT'S ALL YOURS FOR FORT BEND ISD AND THE BROWN IS THE FERNDALE. HENRY PROPOSED OKAY FOR PLAN TWO. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT PLAN TWO. AND THEN AS I DRIVE DOWN SIENNA PARKWAY, THERE IS A LOT OF IT. HASN'T EVEN IT STARTED. BUT ACCORDING TO THE. YEAH, THIS THIS AREA BACK THERE, IT'S ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, MAYBE THREE BEFORE IT'S GETTING ITS MOMENTUM. SO RIGHT HERE THIS LITTLE CORNER IT'S ACTIVE AND STARTING AND THEY'RE BUILDING HOMES IN THERE RIGHT NOW. YEAH. YEAH. YES THEY ARE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE OKAY SO THOSE HOMES WILL BE GOING TO FERNDALE. THOSE KIDS WILL BE GOING TO FERNDALE. THESE WILL BE AT HERITAGE ROSE. HERITAGE ROSE OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW WE COMMUNICATE THIS TO THE PUBLIC. I GUESS MY OTHER CONCERN IS AS I WROTE THE NOTES HERE, BACK TO MY NOTES. IS. FERNDALE IS NOT GOING TO IS GOING TO BE ALREADY AT CAPACITY BY THE FOURTH OR FIFTH YEAR. AND I'M AFRAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A LONG TERM BOUNDARY PLANNING, A BOUNDARY PLAN. TO MEET THAT NEED OR DO SOMETHING ELSE. BECAUSE LET'S JUST ADMIT, LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET PROBABLY A GOOD 3 OR 4 YEARS USE OUT OF FERNDALE. AND AS A BOARD, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY START THINKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, ACCORDING TO THE DATA AS WELL. SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT. I ALSO AGREE WITH PRESIDENT TYSON. THEY ARE BUILDING BACK THEIR RICHWOOD COMMUNITIES WHO WHO ARE OWNED BY THE H. ROSS PEROT COMPANY OWNS THAT LAND BACK THERE. AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GETTING RID OF THE LEVY. THAT'S SO SCARY THING TO BE LIVING OUT THERE. AND SO. YEAH, I THINK I APPRECIATE THIS. I THINK THIS IS RATHER COMPREHENSIVE THAN IN THAN BEFORE. SO THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MR. GARCIA, THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO ME IS DECISION PRINCIPLE. LESS LIKELY TO REQUIRE FUTURE CHANGE. OBVIOUSLY THOSE NUMBERS ARE VERY LOW 17% PLAN TO 33%. AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I FIRST READ THE TWO PLANS, I AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THE FINISHED PRODUCT, AND WE'VE GOT THE LONG RANGE PLANNING COMING UP IN LATER THIS YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE FOR THE DISTRICT AND THEN HERE IN TRUSTEE HAMILTON. TALK ABOUT TAKING SOME SOME CHANGES, LIKE THE VILLAGE OF SHIPMAN'S LANDING, MOVING THEM OVER TO SCANLON TO KIND OF PUMP UP THE UTILIZATION ER AT SCANLON OAKS.
AND I'M THINKING THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A MORE SOUND APPROACH. NOW TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE DO LONG RANGE PLANNING, NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE FULL, SCOPE. SO BUT IF WE'RE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DISTRICT AND WE'RE SORT OF FOCUSING ON ON THIS SIDE, I THINK OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE KIDS REZONE, AND THEN WE DO LONG RANGE PLANNING AND ZONING AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SCENARIOS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND SO. WHAT WILL END UP
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HAPPENING IS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE KIDS IN, THEY'RE GOING TO END UP MOVING THEM AGAIN. AND THREE YEARS. AND THAT'S NOT IDEAL. SO MY THOUGHTS WERE SIMILAR. YOU KNOW YOU KNOW TRUSTEE HAMILTON KNOWS THAT AREA VERY WELL WHICH SCHOOLS GO TO YOU KNOW. AND SO I WAS LIKE WELL THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY I'M IN AGREEMENT THERE. SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK. I KNOW THIS IS JUST YOUR PRELIMINARY PLANS, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BECOME COME OUT OF A PLAN 3 OR 4 THAT WE CAN MAKE A FEW MORE MODIFICATIONS TO THAT. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE BE BENEFICIAL TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. MISS HANNON, THANK YOU.SO I WANT TO KIND OF LOOP BACK A COUPLE OF THINGS. BUT BEFORE THAT I'M GOING TO SAY I AGREE 100% WITH MR. GARCIA IN THAT THIS. AND OKAY, SO BEFORE I SAY THIS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS NOT VERY NICE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPARK. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND STANDING UP TO BE THE CHAIR, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE BIT MESSIER. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE IT. AND MR. HAMILTON IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE CRAFTED FC LOCAL BECAUSE WE GOT SO MUCH FEEDBACK FROM THE VOLUNTEERS WHO SAT ON THAT COMMITTEE, AND THEY REALLY FELT LIKE THEY HAD NO VOICE, THAT IT WAS A DONE DEAL. AND IT FELT LIKE THAT TO US TOO, AS BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT IT DIDN'T COME TO US UNTIL THE FINAL, FINAL KIND OF SITUATION. AND IT DIDN'T IT WASN'T I KNOW IT'S NEVER SMOOTH, BUT IT IT WASN'T SMOOTH. AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS GIVE US FEEDBACK ON HOW IT GOES THIS TIME, AS IT'S AS FC LOCAL HAS BEEN RECRAFTED. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE STAFF THAT WORKED WITH US BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY PATIENT AND HELPING US WITH THAT. AND SO I'M GOING TO LOOP BACK BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MISS PANDA SAID AT THE BEGINNING WAS, I'M SURE YOU'RE ASKING WHY ONLY TWO? AND THAT GOES BACK TO MR. GARCIA'S COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS SCENARIO. TWO, YOU KNOW, BY 2026, WE'RE BACK OVER CAPACITY.
AND BY 2027, HERITAGE ROSE IS BACK TO SQUARE ONE. AND SO I'M ALSO GOING TO CHARGE THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ZONDA AND THE SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER SCENARIO. I UNDERSTAND THAT GROWTH THAT YOU POINTED OUT, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT IS A KINDERGARTNER AND A FIRST GRADER TO THEN BE ZONED BY THE TIME THEY'RE A FOURTH GRADER, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THAT. AND SO WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AVOID AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT PRE-K IS NOT GOING TO BE AT FERNDALE HENRY. THERE IS GOING TO BE NO PRE-K NOR BILINGUAL AT FERNDALE. HENRY. THE INTERNAL TEAM IS TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL. THEY NEED TO SEE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE TO SEE IF YOU KNOW WHAT ROOM EXISTS FOR PRE-K MONOLINGUAL. OKAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT CREATES A REAL PROBLEM FOR PARENTS WHO HAVE A PRE-K STUDENT AND A, YOU KNOW, A KINDERGARTNER OR A FIRST GRADER. AND SO I KNOW IT THAT'S ALSO A BUDGET ISSUE. IT'S A STAFFING ISSUE. IT'S A NUMBERS ISSUE. BUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT, IN THIS LOCATION, I THINK THE BILINGUAL PROGRAM IS VERY VALUABLE. AND SO IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT FERNDALE I KNOW THEY'RE VERY CLOSE. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE SPLITTING UP KIDS BECAUSE SOME KIDS FAMILIES HAVE KIDS THAT ARE IN THE BILINGUAL PROGRAM AND SOME CHILDREN THAT AREN'T. SO YOU'VE GOT THE SAME SITUATION WITH THOSE PROGRAMS AND THOSE FAMILIES. SO I WOULD ALSO ACTUALLY ASK DOCTOR SMITH IF HE COULD HAVE STAFF LOOK MORE CAREFULLY AT THAT. THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE POLICY AND WHY WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE NOTION OF FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL. THE WORDING WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LAST TIME, AND IT WAS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT WAS THE SBOC, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE IF YOU IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO TICK OFF THAT BOX AND, AND THAT'S HOW THINGS BECAME SO FINAL FINAL THAT THAT NOTION OF FEASIBLE, FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL. SO I'M GOING TO USE MR. HAMILTON'S EXAMPLE OF SHIPMAN'S COVE, BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF A CONTENTIOUS PLANNING UNIT UP THERE IN NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING ON THAT BUS AND THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN. 521 TO CRAWFORD, THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A LARGE NUMBER OF KIDS, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN SAY THEY'RE NOT CROSSING HIGHWAY SIX WHERE THEY COULD THROW A STONE
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TO HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT I'M GOING TO ASK THE STAFF AND, AND THE, THE, THE SCHOOL I'M SO USED TO SBC, SBC TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE AND IT MIGHT BE PRACTICAL, BUT IS IT BETTER TO HAVE A KID ON A BUS? BECAUSE ATTENDANCE RESEARCH DOES SAY THE LONGER A KID IS ON THE BUS, THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO BE ABSENT, BECAUSE THE HARDER IT IS TO GET THE KID THAT MISSED THE BUS TO SCHOOL. THEY'RE JUST GOING TO STAY HOME. AND SO I JUST USE THAT SHIPMAN'S COVE EXAMPLE. THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO HIGHTOWER, VERY CLOSE TO HIGHTOWER. AND WHILE IF WE MOVE SHIPMENTS COVE TO HERITAGE ROSES BECAUSE THAT COMPLETES THE FEEDER PATTERN TO ME THAT IS TRULY NOT THE MOST FEASIBLE AND PRACTICAL SOLUTION. AND I'M NOT A I'M NOT A BOUNDARY PLANNER, BUT I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NO WAY I COULD GET TO A SCHOOL OR MY KID TO A SCHOOL IF I DIDN'T CROSS HIGHWAY 90, HIGHWAY 59 OR HIGHWAY SIX. SO AND WE ALL LIVE THERE AND WE LOVE IT. AND THAT'S JUST A REALITY OF WHERE WE LIVE, ARE CROSSING THOSE BIG ROADS. SO AND SO BOTTOM LINE, I'M GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT SCANLON, OAKS AND SCHIFF AND I LOOK, HOW MANY YEARS OUT DO WE HAVE? SEVEN. THERE. THEY'RE ALWAYS KIND OF WITHIN CAPACITY. RIGHT. OR THEY'RE THEY GET INTO THE GREEN ZONE. I GET THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S UP THERE. BUT I STILL SAY IS THERE ANOTHER SCENARIO? AND I HEAR MR. TEMPLETON SAYING, WHAT DID HE SAY. THE, THE HE LOOKED AT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT. BUT I'M ASSUMING WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMES TO ME, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER MOVEMENT. AND I JUST THINK THAT I, I JUST LOOK AT THIS AND IT FEELS LIKE A REAL TEMPORARY BAND-AID AND I DON'T I'M NOT TRYING I, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT THE WORK OF THE, THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE, THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY, COULD COULD WE HAVE ANOTHER LOOK? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MISS JONES. OKAY, SO I'M A MAP PERSON. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM AND I'M WONDERING WOULD THIS CHANGE IF WE DID A DISTRICT WIDE TYPE BOUNDARY PLAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHIFTING NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THEN THAT SHIFT MAY IMPACT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT EVEN LISTED ON THE MAP. SO. JUST IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THE OTHER THING IS, AS I'M LISTENING, I'M THINKING ABOUT. SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I ALWAYS SAY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I KNOW AS A TEACHER, THE LOWER GRADES HAVE MORE ENROLLMENT THAN SOMETIMES THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH. AND SO I'M THINKING INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, WELL, THIS IS A K THROUGH FIVE SCHOOL AND THAT'S A K THROUGH FIVE, MAYBE ONE CAN BE LOWER ELEMENTARY AND THE OTHER COULD BE UPPER ELEMENTARY. THAT COULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH THE I WOULD SAY WITH THE UTILIZATION LONG TERM, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT LET'S ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE SCHOOL AND HOW WE HAVE IT, BOTH SCHOOLS AND HOW WE HAVE IT SET UP. IF WE HAVE MORE PRE-K OR MORE. I KNOW WE HAVE MORE CANDOR BECAUSE CANDOR IS ALWAYS THE HIGHEST ENROLLMENT. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW WE SET UP BOTH SCHOOLS.THAT WOULD BASICALLY SERVE THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS BEING ONLY USED FOR LIKE THREE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS, AND THEN MAYBE EXPAND UPON BOTH SCHOOLS AS ENROLLMENT INCREASE.
THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR THE ADMIN TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL.
ONE CAN BE PRE-K THROUGH SECOND, THIRD THROUGH FIFTH, WHICH IS ARE THE TESTING GRADES ANYWAY.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ON HOW WE ACTUALLY APPROACH THIS, RATHER THAN
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SEEING IT IN A ONE DIMENSIONAL WAY. SO THAT'S MY CHARGE TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE WE PUT TWO PRE-K THROUGH FIVE, LET'S ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS TO SAY WE HAVE MORE KIDS AT THE BETWEEN THESE GRADE LEVELS, OR WE HAVE FEWER KIDS AT THESE GRADE LEVELS, AND MAYBE WE COULD HOUSE THESE KIDS HERE. AND THE GREATER NUMBER AT THE SCHOOL WITH THE HIGHER UTILIZATION.THAT'S HOW I'M SEEING IT. SO WE CAN JUST ACTUALLY BREAK IT UP. SO THAT'S MY CHARGE TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO ALSO MAYBE WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD A DISTRICT WIDE BOUNDARY PLAN LOOK, BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT MOVING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BIG PICTURE HERE RATHER THAN JUST THIS ONE POCKET. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES, MR. SHOAFF. THAT IS A QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO ASK. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID DO A DISTRICT WIDE REZONING? THAT PREDATES MY TIME, BUT I THINK IT WAS ROUGHLY AROUND THE 2017 2018 TIME FRAME.
YEAH. OKAY. I PRESENT AND HOW DID THAT GO WHEN YOU GUYS DID THAT? I HAVE LOTS OF COMMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP AROUND THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO ANSWER IT IN THE CONTEXT OF MY BROADER COMMENTS, JUST BECAUSE SORT OF, SORT OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY BUILDS ON IT. BUT I PLAN TO YEAH, TO KIND OF SHARE AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO THAT. WELL, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, I'M GLAD THIS ISN'T THE FINAL DRAFT, BUT IT WITHOUT DOING A DISTRICT WIDE REZONING, I DON'T SEE HOW WE NECESSARILY ARE USING THE SAME LOGIC FOR HARVEST GREEN AS WE ARE HERE. SO JUST DOESN'T QUITE ADD UP. AND I MEAN, I GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID. LUCKILY I'VE ONLY GOT ONE STUDENT, BUT HAVING TO BOUNCE BETWEEN SCHOOL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IF I HAD MULTIPLE KIDS WOULD BE JUST ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. SPLITTING UP EARLY ELEMENTARY. BUT OTHERWISE, I DO THINK THAT LOOKING AT A DISTRICT WIDE REZONING WOULD AT LEAST APPLY THE SAME LOGIC ACROSS THE DISTRICT, AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT ONE SECTION OF THE DISTRICT DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER SECTION. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE FINAL IDEAS ARE ON THIS. YOU KNOW, I AS I SAID, THE WISE OLD MAN SAID, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THERE'S A PROBLEM, DON'T COME TO US. DON'T COME FORWARD WITH A PROBLEM WITHOUT A SOLUTION, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE SOLUTION. SO I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. SO I, I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC AND SOME HOLISTIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE CLOSE OUT THE PRESENTATION, MISS PANDIT, AND THEN AND THEN I'LL JUMP IN AND MAYBE GIVE THOSE COMMENTS AT THAT TIME. AND YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE HOLISTIC STUFF UNTIL YOU CLOSE OUT. AND THEN AND I GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT IT IS YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR NEXT STEPS. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT YOU'VE ASKED SOME VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR, OUR TEAM AND, AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ASKED VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS. AND SO AS I WAS MENTIONING IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT LONG RANGE PLAN, WE ALL WANT TO JUMP RIGHT IN AND IT'S AT THE FINGERTIPS. OUR SCOPE IS TO ADDRESS THE OVERUTILIZATION AT HERITAGE ROSE AND OPEN FERNDALE HENRY. AND SO IT'S VERY EASY TO WANT TO PLAY. AND THIS IS JUST MY PERSPECTIVE. IT'S VERY EASY TO WANT TO PLAY WITH THE MAPS. WE'VE ASKED MR. TEMPLETON WHAT ABOUT MOVING THIS TO THIS TO THIS. AND I THINK SOME OF OUR SBAC MEMBERS ALSO HAD THOSE VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS AT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD. AND I WANT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO QUOTE EVERY WORD THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, BUT I THINK MISS MISS JONES TOUCHED ON THAT IS IF YOU MAKE ONE MOVE, SOMETHING ELSE IS MOVING RIGHT BEHIND IT. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT UNDERUTILIZATION, AT SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES, THERE IS A DOMINO IMPACT. I THINK YOU CALL IT CASCADING, MR. TEMPLETON. AND SO THAT THEN FORMS INTO THAT LONG RANGE. AND WHAT DOES THAT LONG RANGE PLAN LOOK LIKE. AND SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO ADDRESS
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THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY VALID QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE ALL, I THINK WANT TO ANSWER. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER. UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'RE ALSO CHALLENGED WITH IS THAT THAT CAPACITY NUMBER AT FERNDALE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT HARD FOR ME IS THE 720. YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THOSE MOVES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.IT'S THAT THREE YEAR MARK, THAT FOUR YEAR MARK, WHICH IS TROUBLING. BUT AGAIN, WITH THAT LONG RANGE PLAN COMING RIGHT BEHIND IT, THERE'S HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT MOVING KIDS TO THEN MOVE THEM AND SOLVING TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS. AND SO AS WE LOOK AT RECAP AND NEXT STEPS, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AROUND HOW ARE WE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THE NEARBY CAMPUSES WE HAVE CRAWFORD, THORNTON, SCANLON, OAKS, THOSE PRINCIPLES RECEIVED IN A COMMUNICATION TODAY TO COMMUNICATE TO THEIR FAMILIES AROUND THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE ON THE 26TH. WE'RE ALSO WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO THEN HAVE THAT SURVEY TO THE PUBLIC FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T ATTEND IN PERSON. AND SO A SURVEY WILL BE SENT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON THE 26TH OF FEBRUARY AND MARCH 5TH. AND SO THEN THAT TAKES US TO MARCH 5TH. AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT DAY? SO WE WILL BE ENGAGING WITH THOSE SBAC MEMBERS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN PERSON AND TAKE A FIELD TRIP, LOOK AT THE AREAS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO DURING THAT FIELD TRIP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AROUND WHAT'S IMPACTED. WHAT DID THE COMMUNITY SAY IN THAT PUBLIC MEETING? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED THAT WERE MAYBE NOT CONSIDERED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS OR IN THIS ROOM TODAY, FOLLOWED BY AFTER SPRING BREAK, WE'LL RECONVENE WITH THE SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND LOOK THROUGH AND READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH THAT SURVEY. AGAIN, WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITY MENTIONING? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WITH ZONDA TO MAKE MAYBE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS? THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS MAY NOT BE THE LAST AND FINAL. THIS IS A CHECK POINT WITH THE BOARD. AND WE'RE DOING THOSE CHECK POINTS ALONG THE WAY. AND SO THAT THERE COULD BE THINGS THAT THAT CHANGE FROM PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND, AND TAKING THE FIELD TRIP. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ALL ON THE 27TH OF MARCH AND PRESENT WHAT WE, WE DEEM, I THINK, AS A COLLECTIVE GROUP FINAL RECOMMENDATION FOLLOWED BY BOARD ACTION ON THE SEVENTH. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS PANDIT. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC COMMENTS, BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO TAKE US UP TO THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. SHOAFF, THE WAY IT WENT LAST TIME WERE WAS T SHIRTS, LOTS AND LOTS OF T SHIRTS. SO AND SO. IT'S TOUGH. THIS IS HARD. HARD WORK. AND IT'S TOUGH. NOT JUST BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING WE'RE PREDICTING RIGHT. WE'RE PREDICTING FIVE YEARS OUT OR SOME NUMBER OF YEARS OUT AND EVERYTHING CHANGES. BUT WE'RE ALSO IMPACTING FAMILIES AND KIDS AND EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, GOT A CONNECTION NOT JUST TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT TO THEIR SCHOOL. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE MOVED OR THEY DO WANT TO BE MOVED OR, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S ALL OF THOSE NUANCES AND THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT. AND SO I ALWAYS SAY THIS, THIS IS THE PART OF THE JOB THAT I HATE THE MOST. AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO EMOTIONAL. AND I GET THAT IT'S EMOTIONAL. I HAD TO REZONE MY OWN KIDS. SO IT'S NOT A FUN THING TO DO. AND DIGGING IN, IT'S WE CAN DIG INTO THE DATA AND DRAW THE LINES REALLY EASILY, BUT WE ARE REALLY IMPACTING PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO THEN WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO IT WAS REALLY TOUGH. I GUESS IT'S BEEN PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW AT LEAST SINCE SINCE THIS HAS BEEN DONE. AND ALONG WITH THAT, LIKE I WROTE DOWN, WE NOT ONLY HAD LIKE A BOUNDARY PLAN MASTER PLAN, BUT WE HAD A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THIS BOARD HAS ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION, IS TO BRING US A LONG RANGE PLAN AND TO BRING US SOME MASTER FACILITIES PLAN, BECAUSE THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND. RIGHT. HOW WHAT'S THE LIFE OF THIS FACILITY? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN OR, OR UPDATE IT OR RENOVATE IT VERSUS BUILDING THE NEW SCHOOL? AND SO YOU GUYS, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH SOME CONSOLIDATIONS EVEN BEFORE I GOT ON THE BOARD. AND SO WE'RE PROBABLY FACING A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS COMING UP. SO THOSE ARE BIG DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. TIME THAT FERNDALE, HENRY AND HERITAGE ROSE DOESN'T HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OPEN THAT SCHOOL IN SIX MONTHS, ABOUT SIX MONTHS. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT
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THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OPEN THE SCHOOL WITH KIDS IN THE SCHOOL, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO TAKE KIDS FROM HERITAGE ROSE AND PUT THEM IN THE SCHOOL. SO, SO NECESSARILY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE LONG RANGE PLANNING BECAUSE THAT TAKES A MUCH DEEPER DIVE AND A, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE INTENSIVE LOOK AT DATA AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE GREAT BIG PICTURES ON THE WALL OF ALL THE ALL THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS.AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO DIG INTO THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK ALL OF US, NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY, BUT EVERYBODY SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE, WANTS TO HAVE THAT LONG RANGE PLAN. AND WE JUST BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO DO THIS NOW.
AND SO MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE AROUND HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS AND ENSURING, MR. TEMPLETON, I HEARD YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT NUMBER OF MOVES. AND I GET THAT BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LONG RANGE PLAN. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE KIDS AGAIN. AND SO I, WE DO NEED TO CONSIDER THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND US AS A BOARD THAT OUR FC LOCAL POLICY KIDS WILL NOT BE MOVED MORE THAN ONCE, SO WE WON'T HAVE FOURTH GRADERS MOVED IF THEY'RE MOVED IN SECOND GRADE, BECAUSE ONCE THEY'VE BEEN MOVED, IF THEY ATTEND THE SAME SCHOOL, THEN THEY GET AN INTERDISTRICT TRANSFER AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ZONED AGAIN. SO WE ARE PROTECTING KIDS FROM THAT. AND SAME THING HOLDS TRUE IF THEY GO FROM ELEMENTARY TO MIDDLE. IF THEY'VE BEEN ZONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, THEN WE PROTECT KIDS FROM BEING REZONED AGAIN, EVEN IF THEY'RE ATTENDING A DIFFERENT SCHOOL. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE DID CONSIDER BACK AT THAT TIME, MR. SHOAF, BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED HOW THAT LONG RANGE PLANNING WAS GOING TO AFFECT KIDS, NOT JUST THOSE SPECIFIC KIDS, BUT EVEN KIDS IN THE SAME FAMILIES. AND SO WE WERE CONSIDERING ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE FAMILIES TO STAY TOGETHER AND GET THOSE TRANSFERS. SO I DO WANT TO REMIND US OF THAT, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS AND FAMILIES ARE PROTECTED IN THAT RESPECT. SO I HAD I HAD LOTS OF NOTES IN HERE, BUT NOTICE I DREW THE DOMINO, I DREW IT. SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HERITAGE ROSE AND FERNDALE AND LIONETTI AND SANTA'S CROSSING AND SCANLON AND SCHIFF AND THERE'S THE YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE I DREW THE DOMINO BECAUSE THAT IS HOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT. IT DOES HAVE TO DOMINO. AND IF YOU MOVE KIDS INTO HERE, THEN YOU HAVE TO MOVE KIDS INTO THERE AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE KIDS IN AND IT GOES ALONG. SO MY PERSPECTIVE IS. I DON'T WANT I DO WANT US TO HAVE AS FEW MOVES AS POSSIBLE FOR KIDS. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT UTILIZATION IN, IN THOSE FEEDER PATTERNS. BECAUSE I CIRCLED THE 2829 SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH IS THREE YEARS OUT, WHERE WE ARE OVERCAPACITY PER POLICY, AGAIN IN FERNDALE AND HERITAGE ROSE, WHILE SCANLON, OAKS AND SCHIFF ARE STEADILY DECLINING.
SO MY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SAID IT, IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE. I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. SO I DO KIND OF FEEL LIKE THESE ARE THIS IS A GREAT ONE. YOU KNOW, PLAN ONE IS A GREAT START AND PLAN TWO IS EVEN BETTER. BUT WHAT DOES PLAN THREE LOOK LIKE WHERE WE'RE MAYBE GETTING A LITTLE BIT LESS RED AND YELLOW AND KIND OF GETTING, YOU KNOW, GETTING A LITTLE MORE BALANCED. AND I FEEL LIKE HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS BEFORE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT PLAN. THREE THAT ADDRESSES THAT HOLISTIC, LONG RANGE APPROACH. AND WE CAN KEEP KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND BECAUSE I LIVE OVER THERE, I PROBABLY HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I WANT THE COMMITTEE TO DO THE WORK AND I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO THE WORK. BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO PULL OUT A LITTLE MORE AND LOOK HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE CAMPUSES A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO. ONE OF MY. ONE OF THE THINGS TO I JUST
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THIS IS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THIS PREVIOUSLY AS A TRUSTEE, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO DO. WE SAY A LONG RANGE PLAN FOR BOUNDARIES, BUT YOU REALLY CAN'T GO MUCH MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. I MEAN, IF YOU GO MUCH MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, POPULATIONS CHANGE. STATE REGS CHANGE LIKE LIKE THE VOUCHERS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. I MEAN, WHICH MEANS FUNDING CHANGES, WHICH MEANS FAMILIES MOVE IN AND OUT, WHICH MEANS COMMUNITIES AGE OUT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISTRICT. SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS POSSIBLE TO DO IS TO PUT TOGETHER THAT THAT 5 TO 10 YEAR PLAN. BUT AND I THINK THIS PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO INTO POLICY. YOU HEARD I SAID THE WORD POLICY. RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO INTO POLICY THAT JUST LIKE WITH OUR BOARD GOALS AND PRIORITIES, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE REVISITING THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THE BOARD GOALS AND PRIORITIES, AND A LOT GOES INTO THAT. AND THEN WE REVISIT THEM AND WE UPDATE THEM. I THINK THE SAME THING CAN BE TRUE OF THESE FACILITIES. MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE WE HAD A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN AND WE HAD THIS, BUT I DON'T EVER RECALL, YOU KNOW, DUSTING IT OFF, BRINGING IT BACK OUT AND SAYING, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE ON THIS NOW? WHAT HAS CHANGED? HAVE WE DECIDED TO CLOSE THE SCHOOL? HAVE WE CONSOLIDATED SCHOOLS? CAN WE TAKE THIS ONE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PLAN? CAN WE, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT IS THE LOSS OF DATA. HOW'S IT HOLDING UP ACROSS THE DISTRICT? YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOING AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DOING. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO UPDATE THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD AS YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING THE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION ARE PLANNING, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT THAT WE MAYBE HAVE TO PUSH OUT A LITTLE BIT BEYOND WHAT'S COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DATA CHANGES. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ROADMAP. AND THE COMMUNITY AT LEAST NEEDS TO SEE, HEY, WE'VE GOT A ROADMAP AND WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE A DETOUR, BUT BUT HERE WE'VE AT LEAST DONE THE WORK AND WE CAN WE CAN REVISIT IT. SO I WOULD I WOULD GIVE THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL. I HEARD YOU SAY, MR. TEMPLETON, TOTAL CAPACITY IN THE AREA IS 6767. BUT THE CHART SAYS 6047. DID I MISS HERE? ADDING ADDING FERNDALE. HENRY. ADDING FERNDALE. FERNDALE. HENRY OKAY.THE 710. YES. SO YEAH I'M A NUMBERS PERSON. AND I LOOKED AT THAT AND I WAS LIKE THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT OKAY. YES. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M I'M HESITANT TO SAY TOO MUCH MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PLANNING BECAUSE I REALLY WANT THE I WANT REALLY WANT THE ASPECT TO GO DO THEIR WORK. AND I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO YOUR WORK. BUT I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT THOSE CAPACITIES AND SEE IF WE CAN'T TIGHTEN THAT UP. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, I MEAN, FERNDALE IS BASICALLY OPENING AT CAPACITY. AND WE I'VE HAD SOME I WAS ON THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY WHEN SOME SCHOOLS DID THAT. IT JUST DOESN'T IT JUST DOESN'T WORK IT. WE END UP GETTING OURSELVES IN A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE. I FORGOT WHAT MY LAST. WHAT MY LAST COMMENT WAS GOING TO BE. I'M SURE IT'LL COME BACK TO ME. I SEE CARDS UP. I DIDN'T SEE WHO WAS FIRST. DID ANYBODY SEE WHO, MISS HANNAN FIRST. MISS TORSEN, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE WANTING? THE POLICY COMMITTEE I WROTE DOWN, THIS IS WHAT I HEARD, BUT I'M NOT SURE TO ADD INTO. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE FC LOCAL WHERE IT WOULD LAND, BUT SOME KIND OF PROCESS WHERE WE REVISIT SCHOOL, LOOKING AT SCHOOL BOUNDARIES LIKE EVERY COUPLE YEARS, EVERY HOW, WHATEVER MAKES SENSE, I THINK SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN POLICY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE NEED A LONG RANGE BOUNDARY PLAN AND WE NEED A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE IF IT DAVE ROSENTHAL, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, IF IT ISN'T IN POLICY, IT DOESN'T EXIST. AND SO I KNOW HE'S NOT. BUT YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S TRUE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN POLICY THAT THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD EXPECTS GOING FORWARD. AND THEN WE MAYBE DON'T GET OURSELVES IN INTO THE SAME POSITION THAT WE'VE BEEN IN. AND THEN ALSO, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED HOW EVERY HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY, YOU KNOW,
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EVERY OTHER YEAR, WHATEVER MAKES SENSE FROM AN ADMINISTRATION AND A TRUSTEE AND WHATEVER PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I WASN'T I WASN'T SURE WHERE YOU WERE. AND I WOULD ACTUALLY AGREE THAT THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW POLICY. IT'S NOT JUST A SUGGESTION, IT'S WHAT WE CONSIDER MUST BE DONE AND THE LAW. AND SO LET'S ALL WORK TO DO THAT. SO COULD SOMEONE PUT THIS BACK ON THE TIMELINE SLIDE FOR ME? THE THANK YOU. THE ONE THAT JUST OKAY THANK YOU. AND SO I JUST HAVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MISS TORSEN. BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU ON I REALLY HATE TO OPEN THOSE TWO CAMPUSES OR AND THEN THEY'RE ALREADY FULL THERE.WE ARE ALREADY BACK TO SQUARE ONE. AND SO. WHAT I WANT I WANT TO LOOP BACK AGAIN TO SOMETHING MR. HAMILTON SHARED WHEN HE WAS FIRST TALKING. AND IT WAS ABOUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE 300 KIDS IN A CAP AND OVERFLOW THAT WENT FROM HERITAGE ROSE TO SCANLON OAKS, AND THEN THAT CAP AND OVERFLOW STOPPED, AND THEN THOSE STUDENTS RETURNED. AND THAT PROCESS ISN'T HAPPENING AGAIN. SO CAP AND OVERFLOW IS NOT AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THAT'S HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME. WELL, ANYWAY, I'M JUST I'M GOING TO REEL THAT RIGHT BACK INTO MY HEAD. BUT ANYWAY, SO FOR INSTANCE, RIDGE POINT HIGH SCHOOL AND HIGHTOWER, WE HAD CAP AND OVERFLOW FOR HOW MANY YEARS AND ABOUT THREE YEARS. AND IT JUST YOU KNOW, STUDENTS WENT AND THAT'S THAT'S JUST HOW THAT HAPPENED. AND SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M, I'M ABOUT TO PUT DOCTOR SMITH ON THE SPOT BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE, I'M REMEMBERING BACK AT WILLOW RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT WHEN WE SAID 55 WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PRESENTED TO RECOMMEND 55, NUMBER 55 BEING ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF BOND ISSUES, I GET THAT. I ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE WITH THAT ONE. I UNDERSTAND THE REASON THAT HAD TO HAPPEN, BUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT MEETING AT WILLOW RIDGE WAS ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT US SOME MAPS AND SOME SCENARIOS. RIGHT. AND THOSE SCENARIOS DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOUNDARIES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TO MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT THE CASE, THEY WERE JUST SORT OF HERE ARE SOME POSSIBLE THINGS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. AND I THINK THE COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO THINGS CREATED IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD MIX. IT WASN'T IT, IT. IT WASN'T IT DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WELL. IT WASN'T VERY PALATABLE, PALATABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WHEN I'M WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS TIMELINE AND HERE'S WHERE I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, DOCTOR SMITH, BECAUSE IF LONG RANGE PLANNING DOESN'T BEGIN UNTIL MAY OF 2025, FOR THE REMAINING PART OF THE DISTRICT, I DO THINK I DO THINK IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED PRETTY CLEAR, AT LEAST TO FROM QUITE A FEW OF US, THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR QUADRANT OF IN THE FERNDALE HENRY SIENNA HERITAGE ROSE AREA.
BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT 2025 AND OR MAY OF 2025, AND THAT'S WHEN LONG RANGE PLANNING BEGINS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. TO ME, THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER FAR QUADRANT OF THE DISTRICT. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT COMMUNITY AS THE WE HAD TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS OF BUDGETING. I THINK THEY NEED SOME ANSWERS BEFORE MAY OF 2025. AND THAT ANSWER MAY BE WE ARE DOING NOTHING. HOLD OUT. WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. AND IF THAT'S YOUR ANSWER, THAT'S YOUR ANSWER. AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, I'M GOING TO JUST BE FRANK. I NEED THAT ANSWER BECAUSE I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO SAY LET'S BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THIS, BECAUSE I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE CHARGED YOU TO BRING SOME LONG RANGE PLANNING TO THE BOARD, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING. NOT COMING UNTIL MAY, UNTIL I SAW THIS. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, OR MY ASK, IT'S NOT A QUESTION IS CAN WE PLEASE PROVIDE. THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING. THE AREA THAT IMPACTS THAT NUMBER 55 DISAPPEARING? CAN WE CAN WE PLEASE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
HAVE ADMINISTRATION COMMUNICATE TO THIS COMMUNITY? DO THEY ARE THEY IN THE MAY OF 2025 OR IS
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THERE SOMETHING ALONG THIS TIMELINE, WHETHER THAT'S CAP AND OVERFLOW OR THE ANSWER IS NO.MAY OF 2025. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP THAT COMMUNITY AND ALSO HELP THE BOARD SO WE CAN KNOW HOW TO ARTICULATE WHAT'S HAPPENING? SO I'M GOING TO LET HIM RESPOND, BUT I'M GOING TO RESPOND AS THE BOARD PRESIDENT WHO'S BUILDING THE AGENDAS THAT THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. AND THE VERY FIRST MEETING, THE REVIEW MEETING IN MARCH AS AN INFORMATION ITEM TO.
AND I'VE ASKED DOCTOR SMITH AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS THAT VERY THING, TO COMMUNICATE THE PLAN AND TO TAKE BOARD QUESTIONS. AND ALSO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE MAKING A STATEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN DO YOU WANT TO. MONDAY, MONDAY. WHAT'S TODAY? TODAY? TUESDAY? TUESDAY, YES. SO SHORT ANSWER. YES YES YES, YES. I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE, PRESIDENT HASSAN AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, POSSIBLY WITHIN A WEEK, THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC NEXT STEPS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED. AND SO WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL COMMUNICATE CLEARLY WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL APPRECIATE THAT, AND I WILL CERTAINLY ALSO APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANK YOU, MISS TORSEN, FOR WORKING WITH DOCTOR SMITH TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA. SO THE OTHER QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH THE POLICY CHAIR AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT HERE IS, DOES OUR POLICY IN WHICH POLICY GRANDFATHERS KIDS IN SO THAT WE ARE NOT BOUNCING THEM AROUND? DO YOU KNOW BECAUSE IT IS FC LOCAL.
IS IT IN FC. YES, IT'S IN FC IT'S CALLED PREVIOUS ATTENDANCE BOUNDARY CHANGES. OKAY OKAY.
THANK YOU. MISS HANNON, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE LONG RANGE PLANNING BEGINS IN MAY. AND SO FROM A, I THINK DEFINING PERSPECTIVE, LONG RANGE IS LOOKING AT REASONS AND BOUNDARIES. WHEREAS I THINK THE MATTER THAT YOU WERE BRINGING UP IS WHAT WE CALL AN ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY. IT'S NOT LONG TERM. IT IS A SHORT TERM SOLUTION THAT MIGHT INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE AN OVERFLOW, WHICH IS NOT ALIGNED TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS TIMELINE HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS PANDA, FOR SHARING THAT WITH US. AND DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROCEDURES ON ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT? THERE ARE PROCEDURES IN OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY HANDBOOK, AND WE ARE WORKING INTERNALLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF SCHOOL LEADERSHIP.
AND THAT HANDBOOK IS PUBLIC FACING. YES OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISS PANDA. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. MR. HAMILTON. YES. SO I THINK ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT'S PREVENTING Y'ALL FROM LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DOMINO EFFECT IS THAT IT NOT ONLY WOULD THAT IMPACT WHERE THEY ATTEND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT THAT MIGHT ALSO CHANGE WHERE THEY ATTEND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND OR HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO I'M GOING TO SAY WE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY WE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE YOU SUCKERS WHO ARE ON THE BOARD NEXT YEAR. SORRY. THE MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 REZONING WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. AND SO I WANTED TO ASK DID HAVE DID Y'ALL FACTOR THAT IN AS FAR AS THE LIKE HOW THAT WILL IMPACT. SO I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THE WHERE THESE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS ATTEND MIDDLE SCHOOL TODAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT NEXT YEAR WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 STUDENTS. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL IS OPENING IN 26, 27. SO THAT'S COMING RIGHT BEHIND THIS REZONE. AND SO I KNOW THAT MR. TEMPLETON AND HIS TEAM ARE LOOKING INTO THE FACTORS THAT MIGHT IMPACT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL FEEDERS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER, I THINK, OF THIS WORK THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING WITH FERNDALE, HENRY AS WELL. AND I'M SORRY FOR VIOLATING THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES BY CALLING MY COLLEAGUES SUCKERS. ARE YOU DONE? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO JUST JUMP IN BEFORE I. OH, MR. SCHIFF, YOU YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, OKAY? OKAY. WELL, I'M JUMPING IN ANYWAY, SO I THINK MISS WALDRON WAS SAYING IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT. MAYBE THAT'S NOT BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE COMMITTEE AS OF YET. THAT ABOUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL AND IMPACT. SO I'M SURE THE ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE ABOUT 25 STEPS AHEAD OF ALL OF US. BUT BUT SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE WEIGH IN ON THAT, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE THAT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THEM. AND MAYBE EVEN STUDENTS LIKE NEXT YEAR. SO CAN WE MAKE THAT A PART OF THE BROADER CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE? SURE. ABSOLUTELY.
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OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. YES, I THINK JUST TO KEEP IT SIMPLE, BECAUSE I LIKE SIMPLE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. I THINK WE JUST SHOULD GO WITH THE DISTRICT WIDE. BOUNDARY PLANNING BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT IT LIKE RENOVATING A HOUSE. OKAY. ONE PART OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU RENOVATE ONE PART OF THE HOUSE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON EVERYTHING ELSE. SO INSTEAD OF COMING BACK AND PATCHWORKING THIS AND PATCHWORKING THAT, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 WITH BLUE RIDGE, WITH MISSION ELEMENTARY, AND LET'S JUST GET IT ALL DONE IN ONE SHOT, OKAY? SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO BE COMING BACK TO THESE MEETINGS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, WELL, NEXT YEAR WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL. 16. WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR. SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND JUST REALLY GET INTO THE WORK AND GET OUR HANDS DIRTY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IT IS LONG TERM BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE KEEP PATCHWORKING IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT ONE ELEMENTARY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT LET'S JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE AND ADDRESS IT ALL AT ONCE RATHER THAN PATCHWORKING IT. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PATCHWORKING. SO THAT'S MY ASK. LET'S JUST DO IT ALL, JUST START ALL OVER AND DO IT THAT WAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. COME. YEAH, COME ON UP. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT OUR CHARGE WAS TO GET A SCHOOL OPEN IN AUGUST. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. THERE IS NO WAY. AND I AND I'M, I'M A PARENT OF A GRANDPARENT, AND I HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND PROFESSIONALLY IN THIS AREA, BUT THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL THAT YOU CAN GET A LONG RANGE PLAN DONE BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST. IF YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP A SCHOOL IN AUGUST, THAT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? NO. AND SO MY NEXT ONE OF THE MY LAST QUESTION THAT I FORGOT WHAT MY NEXT QUESTION, MY LAST QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, WAS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO LAY OUT THE THEIR HIGH LEVEL TIMELINE FOR THE LONG RANGE PLAN. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID EARLIER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE SCHOOL OPEN NOW SO THAT THAT'S THE URGENT LIKE, YEAH, YEAH, BUT A COMMITTEE WAS TO LOOK AT THE SCENARIOS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US. YEAH. DID THEY FIT THE LOCAL POLICY THAT AS YOU HAD ARTICULATED IT SO CLEARLY AND WE I HEARD YOU IN THE MEETING AND WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS WERE GOING TO BE ALIGNED. THAT'S WHAT WE AS A COMMITTEE HAS DONE. AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP ON ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE IS WE'RE WE'RE WE REALLY WANT TO DO WHAT IT IS. NOT THAT YOU GUYS DO ANYTHING WRONG BECAUSE YOU DID WHAT YOU WERE ASKED TO DO, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY LOOK AT THIS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE OTHER MOVING PARTS IN THIS SCENARIO.YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO LET MR. SHOAF ASK HIS QUESTION OR MAKE HIS COMMENT, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO SOME SUMMARIZING OF WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT AND MAYBE WHAT WHAT YOU GUYS CAN TAKE WITH YOU. MR. SHOAF, I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE JONES THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT IN A TOTALITY. MY QUESTION IS, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO ACTUALLY COME UP WITH NUMBERS AND ZONINGS AND ALL THAT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT? SO WE NEED TO WORK CLOSELY WITH SONDA ON THAT. AND I, I WANT TO SORT OF PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND GIVE SOME ACCOLADES TO ZONDA AND OUR SCHOOL BOUNDARY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND SO I THIS TIMELINE FOR ME WAS VERY INTENTIONAL BECAUSE THIS WORK, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A LOT, IT'S HAPPENING IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT LONG RANGE PLANNING, WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ADMINISTRATION. WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS, WHAT FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS ARE THERE BEFORE WE WOULD THEN ENGAGE WITH OUR OUR SBAC. AND SO I KNOW THAT ZONDA AND MR. TEMPLETON, THEY'VE HIT THE HE'S HIT THE GROUND RUNNING JANUARY. I'D SAY JANUARY 6TH IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THAT WE MET WHEN WE HAD THAT SIGNED CONTRACT. AND SO TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO THAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE I JUST WANT TO BE VERY HONEST. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME SO WE CAN GET IT RIGHT AND NOT RUSHED. AND SO THAT'S WHY,
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YOU KNOW, ONCE WE OPEN THIS CAMPUS, OUR GOAL IS TO THEN FURTHER ENGAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ASPECT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IS READY TO TAKE ON WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ASK THEM IN THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND SO THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING A TOUCH BASE DEBRIEFING WITH THE SBAC IN APRIL. WHAT WORKED? WHAT DIDN'T WORK? BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS REVISED POLICY, RIGHT? AND SO WITH ANYTHING NEW COMES A LITTLE BIT LITTLE LEARNING. AND THEN IN MAY, ENGAGING WITH THE SBAC AGAIN AND SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WHAT WHAT DO OUR NUMBERS SAY? WORKING VERY CLOSELY IN DEEP DIVE SESSIONS WITH ZONDA. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM A DISTRICT PLAN? HOW MANY YEARS DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT? CAN WE ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE SET OUT TO DO IN THAT YEAR'S TIME FRAME? IF I MAY, JUST REAL. THE THING THAT MAKES THIS SO COMPLICATED IS AROUND THE VOUCHERS AND FUNDING. SO THAT FUNDING PIECE OF THE PUZZLE WILL BE KNOWN, LIKELY APRIL OR MAY. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO KNOW HOW THE EDUCATION ALLOTMENT IS GOING TO CHANGE. WHEN THAT EDUCATION ALLOTMENT CHANGE, YOUR CFO IS GOING TO BE HARD AT WORK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON BOTTOM LINE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A FACTOR THAT WILL GO INTO THIS LONG RANGE PLAN. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL WHY ARE WE NEEDING TO LOOK AT CLOSING SCHOOLS? IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED TO GET FERNDALE HENRY ESTABLISHED NOW THEN WHEN THE WHEN THE PLAYING FIELD GETS MORE KNOWN ABOUT VOUCHERS AND FUNDING THEN IT INVOLVES THIS LONG RANGE PLAN IS GOING TO INVOLVE SO MANY OTHER DATA PIECES. IT WILL INVOLVE THE FACILITY CONDITION INDEX OF THE BUILDINGS. WHERE DOES THAT COME INTO PLAY. AND THEN THAT BECOMES A PIECE TO THE PUZZLE ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH THE ATTENDANCE ZONE CHANGES AS A PART OF THE LONG RANGE PLAN. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS, SO I WANT TO SAY A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE ASKING, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED INTERNALLY. AND SO ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS, IS THAT AS IT STANDS, THIS IS AS OF TODAY'S SNAPSHOT. WE HAVE JUST UNDER 20,000 SEATS IN CAPACITY THAT IS NOT BEING UTILIZED ACROSS ALL GRADE LEVELS. AND SO WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT. AND SO JUST YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TOSSING OUT SOME TERMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY. AND THAT IS AND I'M GOING TO USE THIS AS A TRADEMARK TERM SO NO ONE ELSE CAN USE THIS. BUT WHAT WE CALL RADICAL REZONING. AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO STEP THROUGH. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT TOMORROW THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. AND SO IT WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE SPECIFIC GROWTH AREAS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN HARVEST GREEN AS WELL AS HERITAGE ROSE? AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU ALL WITH A FACT. YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CAPACITY. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS TOO. IT'S NOT ALL IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ISSUE. IT'S NOT ALL IN THE RIGHT PLACE. AND SO IT WOULD BE EASY TO WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND PUT THE STUDENTS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. BUT THE ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS THROUGH, LIKE I SAID, MY TRADEMARK TERM RADICAL REZONING, WHICH THERE'S AN APPETITE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BOTH POLITICALLY AND FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT. THE ANSWER IS WE HAVE. BUT AS MISS PANDA SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A INVOLVED PROCESS, BOTH WITH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, BOARD FEEDBACK AND THEN STAFF PRESENTING WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. MR. GWEN. DID? YEAH. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN WORKING ON THIS? TWO WEEKS. WHY WEREN'T WE DOING THIS SIX MONTHS AGO? WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN. IT FEELS LIKE. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE CRAMMING FOR A TEST NOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A VENDOR. WE HAD TO VOTE ON THE VENDOR. SO WE VOTED ON THE VENDOR RECENTLY. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO BACK TO MY QUESTION. HOW LONG, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET NUMBERS ON RADICAL TM REZONING? I WHAT'S THAT NUMBER HERE OKAY, OKAY.WOW. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. HAMILTON. YEAH. QUICK QUESTION, MR. TEMPLETON. SO THE FORECAST THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PLAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS THE KIND OF THE MEDIUM. YES. SO JUST A THOUGHT FOR SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE ON. SO I DON'T EVEN THINK ANYBODY IN THE LEGISLATURE REALLY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO PASS IF VOUCHERS DO IN FACT PASS. BUT SO
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I REALIZED THAT THERE WAS AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A LITTLE WHILE IN THE FORECAST. SO FOR THE LOW GROWTH SCENARIO, USUALLY IT'S ABOUT THE SAME LIKE DIFFERENCE ABOVE AND BEYOND, BUT THEY WENT QUITE A BIT LOWER ON THE LOW END DUE TO THE POSSIBILITY OF VOUCHERS. AND SO I JUST IT JUST HIT ME TONIGHT THAT THEY, THEY PROJECTED A POTENTIAL IMPACT OF ABOUT 7.5% REDUCTION TO ENROLLMENT BASED ON THE VOUCHER POSSIBILITY. SO JUST A THOUGHT IS THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A AS WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTIONS, MAYBE A KIND OF A WITH AND WITHOUT VOUCHERS PROJECTION CHART. AND SO SEVEN POINT, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PERCENTAGE REDUCTION AT EVERY CAMPUS ACROSS THE DISTRICT BY ANY MEANS. BUT JUST FOR PROJECTION PURPOSES, MAYBE WE COULD DO A KIND OF A WITHOUT VOUCHERS WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. AND THEN A WITH VOUCHERS OPTION WOULD BE REDUCE EACH CAMPUS BY 7.5% AS JUST KIND OF A SPITBALL PROJECTION. NUMBER EIGHT BASELINE, WE CAN ALL VISIT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT PULLING IN POS LOW NUMBER. SO WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MISS HANNON. I WAS GOING TO ASK THIS OF MR. GWEN, BUT ANYBODY CAN CAN ANSWER THIS SO WELL FIRST I'M GOING TO GO BACK. AND SO I WANT TO SAY I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND I FULLY HOPE THE SBA TAKES THE TIME THEY NEED TO BRING FORWARD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I KNOW WHEN WE'RE LOOKING DISTRICT WIDE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN LOOKING AT A SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU WHAT YOU DO. I AM GLAD I AM NOT YOU, BUT I'M THEN AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT YOU BRING US. BUT SO MY QUESTION, BASED ON THE REMINDER THAT MR. GWEN GAVE US, IS I WOULD LIKE A REMINDER IS THE CAPACITY OF A BUILDING. WHEN IS IT OPTIMAL? IS IT OPTIMAL WHEN WE HAVE 100% OF THE BUILDING FULL AND NO MORE ROOM AT THE END? OR IS IT MORE OPTIMAL, OPTIMAL, OPTIMAL WHEN IT'S A BIT LOWER THAN THAT, SAY, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 80 AND 90%? WHAT? WHAT IS OPTIMAL UTILIZATION LOOK LIKE? AND I BELIEVE IT IS BOARD POLICY. FC LOCAL DEFINES A CAMPUS AS WELL UTILIZED AT 80%. OKAY. AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THE NUMBER THAT I QUOTED IS THOSE CAMPUSES. THIS IS JUST TOTAL CAPACITY. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS YOU WILL HAVE SOME THAT ARE. VERY LOW. AND I MEAN BY 60% OR LESS. SURE. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE, AS WE KNOW THAT ARE 90 TO 100%, WHICH PROBABLY IN AN IDEAL WORLD, THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR CAMPUSES WOULD BE. BUT BOARD POLICY SPECIFICALLY SAYS 80% IS THE UTILIZATION THRESHOLD THAT WE TARGET. RIGHT. AND I ASK THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS THEY START FOLLOWING US, THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, 100% BE SURELY BETTER THAN 125%. YES. BUT 100% STILL ISN'T NECESSARILY OUR GOAL. YOU DON'T WHEN YOU HAVE 100%, IT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR IN YOUR CAMPUS TO UTILIZE SOME EMPTY ROOMS FOR CREATIVE LEARNING EXPERIENCES. AND SO I JUST I ASK THAT QUESTION MOSTLY JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR SIGNING ON FOR A YEAR. THANK YOU MISS HANNAN. MISS JONES OKAY, SO BEFORE WE THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THIS IS THE ACCURATE NUMBER. BUT WHEN PASA DID THEIR REPORT THEY ONLY SAID THAT WE'D LOSE ABOUT 652 STUDENTS OKAY. AND THE PROPOSED VOUCHER PLAN IS ONLY FOR 100,000 STUDENTS OKAY. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT AND I'M THINKING ABOUT, WELL, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. YOU KNOW, ONLY 100,000. IT'S OVER, WHAT, 5 MILLION? 6 MILLION. ONLY 100,000 WILL ACTUALLY GET THEM. SO OUT OF THAT. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT 652. AND I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT THIS. OKAY. JUST 100,000 NOT 5.5 MILLION OR HOWEVER MANY STUDENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR VOUCHERS. SO WE CAN PROJECT THAT. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, I THINK IT WAS BACK IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, AND A BOARD UPDATE WHEN I ASKED THE ADMIN.[01:40:10]
TO MAKE A CASE SCENARIO OF IF WE LOST ENROLLMENT, I THINK IT WAS AT 5%, 7%. AND WHAT WOULD A PROPOSED BUDGET? SO THE BOARD, YOU SHOULD GO BACK INTO THE SEPTEMBER. IT'S NOT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT PREPARED. WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS BECAUSE I REMEMBER BRIAN KICKING IT BACK TO US OF SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE LOST THIS PERCENTAGE, AND THEY DID AN ABSOLUTE GREAT JOB THERE. SO BEFORE WE CRITICIZE THE ADMIN, THEY'RE ALREADY PREPARED TO FOR WHAT'S WHAT'S SURE TO HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MR. IF I MAY ADD TO WHAT MISS JONES SAYS, I THINK THE I DO WANT TO ADD A CAUTIONARY NOTE TO THAT PREPAREDNESS AND THAT COMES THIS WAY, IS THAT WHEN VOUCHERS DO PASS AND NOTICE I SAID WHEN THEY DO PASS, NOT IF THEY WILL PASS. IS THAT WHEN THE INITIAL ENROLLMENT OPENS, THE DISTRICT WILL NOT KNOW TRULY HOW MANY STUDENTS THAT WE ARE LOSING. HOWEVER, WE WILL HAVE HIRED STAFF TO FILL TO PREPARE FOR STUDENTS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ANTICIPATE ARE COMING. AND I THINK WE CAN POINT BACK TO THE PANDEMIC WHEN THIS HAPPENED. SO IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE EXPECTING ABOUT 78,000 STUDENTS, AND WE END UP WITH ABOUT 75,000. WE HIRED FOR 78,000 STUDENTS. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY LIKE A PRIVATE COMPANY BECAUSE REMEMBER, OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF ARE ON CONTRACT. AND SO WHEN ENROLLMENT DIDN'T MATERIALIZE, WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO EMPLOY THOSE STAFF THROUGH THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, MEANING WE ARE SPENDING MONEY, BUT WE ARE NOT RECEIVING REVENUE TO OFFSET IT. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT I WILL SAY, YES, WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND DONE SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS ON WHAT HAPPENS IF ENROLLMENT DOESN'T MATERIALIZE, WHERE WILL WE NEED TO REDUCE THE BUDGET. AND THE FIRST YEAR WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE REDUCTIONS. AND SO THIS COMES BACK TO OUR FUND BALANCE. WE ARE AT 90 DAYS TODAY. IF WE WERE TO FACE A SCENARIO LIKE THAT, IT WOULD TAKE US BELOW 90 DAYS. AND SO WHILE I SAY YES, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE SCENARIOS, THERE ARE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CHARTER GROWTH. YES, WE CAN RESPOND TO IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR LATE BECAUSE WE HAVE STAFF ON CONTRACT, RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING RATHER THAN NOTHING AT ALL OF KIND OF LIKE WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. WHAT WHAT WE COULD BE FACED WITH. AND SO IT'S NOT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT PREPARED. THEY'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT IT. SO, SO AND AS A BOARD, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT LONG TERM THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT NOW. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. DOCTOR GILLIAM. WELL, I GUESS IN MY BRAIN I'M THINKING OF BIG PICTURE. I'M THINKING OF WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF TO DO. I HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR. YOU'RE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT JUST A MINUTE. WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND I'M KIND OF THANK YOU VERY MUCH BECAUSE I'M LIKE WITH YOU, I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD, BECAUSE IT'S THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE? WHAT WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY DOING? I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DETAILS EVERYWHERE. EVERYONE WE'RE THROWING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OUT. AND, AND I LOOK AT THE GLOBAL PICTURE AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE GLOBAL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT STEPS, AND THE STEPS ARE NOT GOING IN ONE WAY, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF FLOATING EVERYWHERE. THIS CAME IN MY MIND AND THIS CAME IN MY MIND, AND THAT CAME IN MY MIND AND MEANING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS AND I'M TRYING AND TO ME IT'S JUST, WELL, OVERALL, WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT WHEN WE GO INTO THIS? ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT ONE? I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ONE AREA SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. BUT THEN AFTER THAT WHAT HAPPENS? AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS ARE RIGHT NOW AND I HEAR SO MANY DETAILS OF THINGS BEING THROWN OUT. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW. IS IT EVENTUALLY GOING TO COME TOGETHER? IS IT EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, WHAT HAVE YOU? SO CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME WHAT? BECAUSE IN MY BRAIN, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD THAT WE WERE DOING. AND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW, IT'S A MATTER OF HOW DO WE PULL EVERYTHING TOGETHER? BUT THEN WHICH, OF COURSE, I HEARD IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. SO DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY LET ME ADDRESS THAT. THOUGHTS. OKAY. YES. VERY[01:45:01]
CLEAR. SO THE URGENCY CENTERED AROUND TONIGHT IS TO PREPARE FOR FERNDALE HENRY OPENING NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. ABSENT OF THE REALITY THAT A LONG RANGE PLAN HAS TO TAKE PLACE. YOU HEARD OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, DEVELOPING A FRAMEWORK SO THAT WE CAN GET PREPARED FOR THE LONG RANGE PLAN. SO TONIGHT AGAIN, THE FOCUS AND THE URGENCY IS AROUND GETTING THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN DEFINE WHAT THE BOUNDARY IS GOING TO BE FOR FERNDALE ELEMENTARY. DO THAT IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN, IN A TIMELY MANNER, COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE FAMILIES WHO WILL BE IMPACTED IN THE IMMEDIATE, IN THE IMMEDIACY.AT THE SAME TIME, WE HEAR YOU AND WE HEAR ALL THE FEEDBACK AGAIN. RE-EMPHASIZING WE ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT A LONG RANGE PLAN HAS TO COME AND WE ARE WORKING VERY AGGRESSIVELY TO PREPARE TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THAT. IT IS AS AS BRIAN STATED, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER. SOME WOULD MEAN RADICAL, RADICAL REZONING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BRUTAL. IT'S A BRUTAL PROCESS AND WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, STRATEGIC, WELL PLANNED. YOU CAN'T RUSH THAT. I WISH I COULD SAY TO YOU, WE'LL HAVE THIS IN THREE MONTHS, BUT BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE A BEST PRACTICE. I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE IN A TIMELY MANNER, IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. SO WE GET THE PROCESS IN PLACE. BUT WE JUST WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO DO OUR HOMEWORK, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AND THE COMMUNITY. AND IF I COULD PUT A NUMBER ON IT TONIGHT, I WOULD. BUT THE PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS US TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR SMITH.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME SUMMARY COMMENTS AND MAYBE JUST WRAP SOME THINGS UP. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, DOCTOR SMITH, BECAUSE I THINK WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AS OPPOSED TO GETTING IT FAST. AND IT IS GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT NOT JUST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND FOR MR. TEMPLETON AND ZONDA, BUT ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS POSITION. SO I WANT TO SAY TO MISS WALDRON, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO LEAD THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WORK. AND I WANT TO SAY A GENERAL THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO STEPPED UP AND APPLIED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE. IT'S REALLY HARD WORK. AND EVEN IF IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BOARD IS WEIGHING IN OR NOT, CONSIDERING THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, LET ME JUST SAY THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT WORK AND WE ABSOLUTELY NEED YOU GUYS TO BE DOING THAT WORK. AND WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THE FEEDBACK AND, AND ALL OF THE INSIGHT THAT YOU GUYS BRING TO US, YOU KNOW, WE AS THE ELECTED BODY OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO WEIGH IN, BUT WE REALLY CAN'T. WE HAVE TO HAVE A BASE AND A FOUNDATION. AND YOU GUYS DO IMMENSE WORK IN PROVIDING THAT. SO THANK YOU TO YOU AND TO ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THAT COMMITTEE. SO I'M GOING TO DO JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT I HEARD THE BOARD SAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO GO BACK AND COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMITTEE. LOOK AT THE UTILIZATION AT SOME OF THOSE OTHER CAMPUSES IN, IN SIENNA, AND SEE IF THERE'S NOT A BETTER WAY FOR US TO GET UTILIZATION UP FURTHER OUT AND A LITTLE BIT LONGER TERM. SO IT LET'S GET US OUT PAST THE, THE 4 OR 5 YEARS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN VOUCHERS COME AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS COME THAT MAY HAVE TO CHANGE.
BUT I THINK THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT MAY HAVE TO CHANGE. BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT LONGER TERM AND GET SOME OF THOSE UTILIZATION NUMBERS UP.
THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM THE BOARD. I ALSO HEARD US SAY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE TO THE COMMITTEE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE WAY THOSE WILL BE IMPACTED. AND AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO DO A DEEP DIVE, BUT I THINK THEY AT LEAST NEED TO SEE IT. LET'S LOOK AT IT THROUGH THAT LENS. LET'S HAVE THEM WEIGH IN BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM THAT AREA, ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE TO ADD TO THAT. THE THIRD THING I HEARD
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WAS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN THROUGH A LONG RANGE LENS, WHICH I THINK KIND OF HARKENS BACK TO THE GETTING UTILIZATION UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WHAT WE WANT, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE LONG RANGE PLAN, WHICH IS GOING TO START AFTER WE MAKE THE DECISIONS ON FERNDALE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THAT SCHOOL OPEN AND MAYBE IN THE MAY TIME FRAME AFTER WE HAVE A VOUCHER BILL THAT'S BEEN PASSED AND WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND ENCOMPASSED IN THAT IS A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE RADICAL REZONING. SO THANK YOU FOR NAMING THAT BECAUSE DOCTOR SMITH AND I HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN AROUND THE CONVERSATIONS WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. SO I APPRECIATE MISS HANNON AND MR. HAMILTON AND, AND REALLY ALL THE TRUSTEES BRINGING UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT NEIL UTILIZATION AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS. SO THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. AND BUT IT WITHIN A WEEK OR SO, DOCTOR SMITH AND HIS TEAM IS GOING TO PUT OUT A COMMUNICATION SO THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT. AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE TRUSTEES AT THAT AGENDA REVIEW WORKSHOP. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. AND LIKE MISS JONES SAID, I THINK THE TEAM HAS BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB PREPARING. AND AS THOSE UNKNOWNS, YOU KNOW, BECOME KNOWN, THEN WE'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT I KNOW MR. GWEN, HE'S GOT A CRYSTAL BALL AND HE, YOU KNOW, KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING. SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT HE'S GOING TO WORK IT ALL OUT. OKAY.I MOVE TO ADJOURN
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