9.A. Defer Transportation Facility and Allocate Budget to Program Contingency: Consideration and approval for deferring the Transportation Facility (BP008) and allocating the budget to program contingency to reduce the 2023 Bond deficit.

[9.A. Defer Transportation Facility and Allocate Budget to Program Contingency: Consideration and approval for deferring the Transportation Facility (BP008) and allocating the budget to program contingency to reduce the 2023 Bond deficit.]

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE. AND I WOULD JUST ASK THE TRUSTEES TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW LONG YOU ARE COMMENTING OR HOW LONG YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE TO GO THROUGH. SO JUST PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT. FIRST UP IS NINE A, WHICH IS TO DEFER THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND ALLOCATE BUDGET TO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY. MAY I HAVE A MOTIO? MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. TRUSTEES APPROVE ACTION. ACTION. ITEM NINE A IS PRESENTED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. PLEASE VOTE.

EVERYONE VOTE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP IS NINE B. ELIMINATE ELEMENTARY

[9.B. Eliminate Elementary School 55 and Allocate Budget to Program Contingency: Consideration and approval to eliminate construction of Elementary School 55 (ES55) (BP006) and allocate the budget to program contingency to reduce the 2023 Bond deficit.]

SCHOOL 55 AND ALLOCATE BUDGET TO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO ELIMINATE CONSTRUCTION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 S 55 BID PACKAGE 006. AND ALLOCATE THE BUDGET TO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY TO REDUCE THE 2023 BOND DEFICIT. AS PRESENTED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MR. GARCIA? THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OKAY, SO I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM. SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED THE LAST TIME AROUND THE MEETING WAS AND ACTUALLY, IT WAS MORE IN REGARDS TO THE NATATORIUM, BUT HAD HAVE WE CONSIDERED WAS IT EVER A CONSIDERATION TO BUILD THE SCHOOL BUT A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT? THE CORE SPACE WITH THE ABILITY TO ADD TO THE TO THE SCHOOL AS ENROLLMENT GROWS, GROWS? THAT'S ONE QUESTION. AND NO ANSWER THAT WOULD BE I CAN GO THROUGH MY QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE. GOOD EVENING. REGARDING THE QUESTION REGARDING AROUND BUILDING A SMALLER CAMPUS THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED WHAT WAS CONSIDERED WAS DELIVERING THE CAMPUS TO THE SIZE THAT WAS PLANNED IN THE BOND PROPOSITION.

AND I KNOW THAT WAS DONE WITH THE NEAL ORIGINALLY. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, AFTER THE BOND PASSED AND SHORTLY AFTER, ADDITIONS CAME. SO THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY.

THIS PROJECT IS TECHNICALLY FUNDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT OR IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT OVER BUDGET. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT HASN'T BEEN IT'S STILL ONE OF THOSE 30% PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL HASN'T CORRECT. WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH AND WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE

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COSTS. HAVE WE RUN THE NUMBERS TO SEE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO END UP AFTER THE COSTS COME BACK? ARE WE GOING TO BE OVER UNDER? HAVE WE DONE THAT EXERCISE YET? YES. SO THE COME UP, THE I THINK THE LATEST ESTIMATE IS SLIGHTLY OVER. I'LL DEFER TO MR. BANKHEAD WITH THE EXACT NUMBER. GOOD EVENING TRUSTEES. YES, WE HAVE DONE SOME CONCEPTUAL PRICING ESTIMATING, BUDGETING FOR THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE NOT STARTED THE DESIGN ON IT, AND THE ARCHITECTS HAVE ONLY GIVEN US PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AT THIS POINT. BUT IT IS ANTICIPATED, ESPECIALLY NOW, THAT WE HAVE STARTED WORK ON OUR OTHER CAMPUSES. AND AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR SISTER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE STARTED WORK ON THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE BEING AN OVERAGE. OKAY. AND WITH SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING IN REGARDS TO POTENTIAL REZONE OPTIONS, I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE FINAL IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA AND I'M HEARING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DATA MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE OR THAT THE I JUST CAN, CAN SOMEBODY JUST ADDRESS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE DOUBLE CHECKED, WE'VE RUN THE NUMBERS. WE'RE WE'RE SOLID ON IT. AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ACCURATE. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WE GET ENROLLMENT REPORTS AND WE SEE ENROLLMENT KIND OF FLUCTUATES AND IT'S UP AND DOWN AND WE SEE THAT WHAT NEAL IS GOING UP SLIGHTLY IN OTHER AREAS AND UNDERSTAND OR GOING DOWN. AND SO I GET THE SHUFFLE THAT COULD EASILY OCCUR. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE, TRIPLE CHECKED EVERYTHING. SO I'LL START WITH THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES, WE HAVE ONE THING TO ALSO KEEP INTO MIND AS WE LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. IS THAT PASA NOW IS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS OF FORECASTING, NOT ONLY FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT THE NEXT TEN YEARS OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED BY DOCTOR DEBORAH WHEN SHE WAS HERE LAST TIME IS THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE NUMBERS. IF THEY COULD GET AN ACCURATE 100%, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SLIGHT VARIATIONS. TYPICALLY THEIR PERCENTAGE OF ACCURACY HAS BEEN 99% RANGE. THE ONLY TWO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT WERE DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC, WHEN THEY WERE OFF. AND THAT WAS UNIVERSAL ACROSS THE STATE. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE WITHIN A 1% RANGE ON ON ACCURACY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT, YES, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE ONE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE FUTURE TO DETERMINE THAT. BUT COMING BACK TO WHAT DOCTOR DE PERRY MENTIONED, HER COMMENT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IF ANYTHING, SHE WOULD EXPECT THE NUMBERS TO ACTUALLY BE DECREASING FROM WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROJECTED, IF ANYTHING, NOT ACTUALLY INCREASING. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT AS WELL TO MISTER GWYNN'S RESPONSE? AND I KNOW TRUSTEES THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS. I'M SPEAKING MOSTLY FOR THE PUBLIC. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, THE PROJECTIONS PROVIDED BY PASA ARE BASED ON OUR SNAPSHOT DAY, A SNAPSHOT DAY, WHICH IS AT THE END OF OCTOBER TO THE FOLLOWING OCTOBER. AND SO IF SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING AT NUMBERS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE EXACT NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ENROLLED TODAY AT THE SCHOOL. AND SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE UPDATED EACH WEEK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR AND ALSO SHOWS RIGHT NEXT TO WHAT WERE THE PROJECTIONS FOR 2425. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT NEAL, GIVES YOU THE PROJECTION FOR NEAL AT 1229, THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT AS OF TODAY, IT'S DONE EACH MONDAY. THAT'S 1255. AND THEN IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE DELTA FOR THAT IS 26 STUDENTS OVER THE PROJECTION. BUT AGAIN THAT PROJECTION IS BASED ON THAT TEAM SNAPSHOT DAY, WHICH COMES AT THE END OF OCTOBER. IF I MAY ADD ONE MORE. THIS IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT, BUT TO A COMMENT THAT YOU MADE. MR. GARCIA, AND THAT IS RELATED TO BUILDING A SMALLER CAMPUS. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, OR THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. WE CAN BUILD A SMALLER CAMPUS. BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT IS THE COST OF THAT CAMPUS FROM AN ONGOING PERSPECTIVE. AND EVEN IF WE BUILD A SMALLER CAMPUS, THE OVERHEAD COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CAMPUS WILL BE ABOUT $1.4 MILLION, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S A SMALL SCHOOL OR A LARGE SCHOOL, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PRINCIPAL, A NURSE, COUNSELOR, ETC. THAT LAYER OF EMPLOYEES AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING AT IT FROM A BOND PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A LONG TERM FINANCIAL IMPACT. WHAT WILL THAT HAVE ON THE DISTRICT AS WE LOOK AT STATE FUNDING AND HOW THINGS MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LEGISLATURE GOING FORWARD? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION AND THE CHALLENGES

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ASSOCIATED TO BUILDING A SMALLER CAMPUS VERSUS SCALING UP AND THEN GROWING INTO THAT SCHOOL, BECAUSE THEN IF YOU BUILD A SMALL SCHOOL, SMALLER SCHOOL, AND THEN YOU DO NEED MORE AND THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO END UP PUTTING IN MORE PORTABLE BUILDINGS BEFORE YOU GET A CHANCE TO DO ANOTHER BOND REFERENDUM TO ADD THE ADDITIONS TO THE SCHOOL. SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WHILE WE'RE HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THE $163 MILLION DEFICIT, WHICH IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER IN THIS $1.26 BILLION BOND. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE FACED WITH FACED WITH MAKING SOME VERY TOUGH DECISIONS. I'VE BEEN FIELDING CALLS AND EMAILS FOR QUITE A WHILE ON THIS AND TO MY POINT, WHAT I WAS SAYING PREVIOUSLY THAT I, I FELT LIKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING A SCHOOL WHERE PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MOVED IN, AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GO INTO THE REALTOR'S OFFICE, IT'LL SAY PROPOSED SCHOOL. THERE'S NOTHING SET IN STONE. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY. WE HAVE TO BUILD A SCHOOL. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PRECEDENT WHERE WE'VE HAD IT ON THE BOND BEFORE. AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T NEED THE SCHOOL. WE CAN PULL BACK ON THE SCHOOL. SO I GET THAT AND MY COMMENTS ABOUT BEING SORT OF THOUGHTFUL AND COMPASSIONATE TOWARD THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS THING AND A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T REALLY KNOW. A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS WAS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T THIS ISN'T MUST SEE TV. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT BOARD MEETINGS REGULARLY, AND WE DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA REVIEW MEETING. AND SO IT CAME UP OVER THE WEEKEND AND A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T REALIZE IT. SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS I'M I STRUGGLE WITH THIS. I THINK I'M, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M QUITE READY YET TO JUST COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT, WHICH WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY I HAD QUESTIONS OF DEFERRING RATHER THAN ELIMINATING, BECAUSE ELIMINATING MEANS THAT IT'S DONE. AND WE WANT TO BUILD IT, THEN WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER BOND FOR IT, AS OPPOSED TO DEFERRING IT AND MAYBE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS, POSSIBLY POSTPONING IT. SO I'LL WAIT TO CHIME IN AFTER THE REST OF THE TRUSTEES HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. MR. HAMILTON. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO I'M TYPICALLY VERY CAREFUL TO SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS ISSUE. WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS AND WE VALUE AND APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT'S EMAILS, WHETHER IT'S OTHER VARIOUS FORMS OF CONTACTING US DIRECTLY OR IT'S COMING. AND SPEAKING AT THE BOARD MEETING. SO MISS WILLIAMS EARLIER MENTIONED CALENDAR MATH.

SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING CALLED TRUSTEE MATH UP HERE. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE, SOMETIMES WE MAY BE 55% ON ONE SIDE OF AN ISSUE AND 45% ON THE OTHER. AND IT MAY EVEN BE 51%. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES TO VOTE, WE JUST HAVE TO WE HAVE TO VOTE THE WAY THAT WE CONCLUDE AND LIVE WITH THAT VOTE. AND OFTEN WE'RE IN SITUATIONS WHERE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UPSET WITH OUR DECISION. EITHER WAY. AND SO TO THE TO THE I THINK IT'S WORTH POINTING OUT TO EVERYONE. SOMETIMES YOUR FEEDBACK IS RECEIVED AND IS PROCESSED AND DOESN'T CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE. AND SO JUST BECAUSE A TRUSTEE DOESN'T VOTE THE WAY YOU THINK HE OR SHE SHOULD, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE FEEDBACK WAS VALUED. AND SO IN THIS CASE, I CAME IN TO THIS PROCESS READY TO SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION. AND SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IF WE DO VOTE TONIGHT, I, I PLAN TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION. HOWEVER, MY PREFERENCE IS TO IS NOW TO TABLE THIS. SO I THINK THERE'S TENSION. SO MY THE REASONS WHY I WOULD STILL COME DOWN, LET ME START THERE WITH NOT BUILDING THE SCHOOL. IS THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED DURING THE LAST MEETING DURING THE AGENDA REVIEW, WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR 100,000 STUDENTS IN FORT BEND ISD AND OUR ENROLLMENTS UNDER 80,000. AND SO THAT FACT AND THEN SPECIFIC TO THIS AREA, WE HAVE CAPACITY LOOKING AT THE 20 2627 SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR 1800 STUDENTS, A LITTLE OVER 1800 STUDENTS IN THE NEARBY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE AREA OF THIS PROPOSED SCHOOL. AND SO THOSE TWO FACTS ON ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION, AND THEN JUST THE FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WE, DOCTOR SMITH, INHERITED A SITUATION WHERE A FEW WEEKS AFTER TAKING THE JOB, YOU WERE TOLD THE BOND IS PROJECTED TO BE $162 MILLION OVER BUDGET. AND SO YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD AND THE STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO TRY TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND TRY TO COME UP WITH WITH WAYS TO CUT SAVINGS. AND SO PUTTING THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER LEADS ME TO SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION TO NOT BUILD THIS SCHOOL. HOWEVER, I THINK THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO BALANCE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DISTRICT WITH WHAT'S BEST FOR THE IMPACTED COMMUNITY. AND SO BASED ON ALL THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOT, I THINK

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IT'S WORTH TABLING THIS TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY SPEAK BEFORE MAKING A MOTION. SO I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS SO THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TIME TO ENGAGE THE HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT IF IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION, THEN THE ADMINISTRATION CAN CAN GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND CONVINCE THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE DISTRICT AND FOR THE HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH BUILDING THE SCHOOL. AND SO THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. AND I'LL JUST LET EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAK TO THIS. YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? IT'S UP TO YOU. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MISS JONES. OKAY, SO I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT TEACHING AND LEARNING AND I'M TEACHING. WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING SCHOOLS.

OKAY. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE LIGHTLY. AND ELIMINATING A SCHOOL. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO AN EMAIL THAT I ASKED THE STAFF AFTER THE BOND WORKSHOP. I ASKED THE STAFF, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES TO THE BOND IN LIEU OF NOT CANCELING THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. AND I SAID, PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE AN AN ADDITIONAL BOND IN THE RESPONSE. AS AN ALTERNATIVE. OKAY. AND THAT WAS SENT ON SEPTEMBER 8TH AT 8:42 P.M. AND SO ON. THE BOARD IN THE BOARD UPDATE, THE RESPONSE TO MY QUESTION WAS THIS THE AVAILABLE AND IT CAME FROM DOCTOR FIELDS AND IT SAID THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS, ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IN LIEU OF DEFERRING THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 WERE PRESENTED AT THE BOND WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 5TH. THESE OPTIONS INCLUDE ALIGNING TURF AND ATHLETICS WITH THE BUDGET, ALIGNING FINE ARTS ADDITIONS WITH THE BUDGET, AND OR DEFERRING THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. HE ALSO GAVE ME THE REDUCTION AMOUNTS FOR THOSE THREE FOR WHICH WE ARE SEEING NOW. SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, AND THEN HE ALSO INCLUDED THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES THAT COULD BE USED TO ADDRESS THE DEFICIT INCLUDE THE 2024 BOND CONTINGENCY, THE 2018 BOND CONTINGENCY, AND THE HUD DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE GRANT AND LAND SALES. OKAY, SO WE GOT ALL OF THIS ALIGNED AND WE HAVE THOSE THREE, HE SAID. IF WE GOT RID OF THESE THREE, PRETTY MUCH WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEFER THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. SO MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS WHAT'S CHANGED FROM THAT ANSWER TO RIGHT NOW? MR. DOCTOR BEST, YOU CAN COME UP, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE PERSPECTIVE TO THIS. I WOULD BE I THINK, THE ONE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR THE CHANGE. OKAY. AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE AS WE'VE BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY TO TRY TO GET MY ARMS WRAPPED AROUND THE WHAT, THE WHEN, THE WHERE AND THE HOW, SINCE FEBRUARY, AS WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY TO NOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN MORE CLEAR ABOUT THE FACTS AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'VE GOT MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD EXPECTED OF ME IN TERMS OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. SO MR. BEALS WAS RIGHT ON POINT AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME WHEN HE PROVIDED YOU THAT RESPONSE. BUT OVER TIME, AS I'VE ENGAGED WITH EACH OF YOU, AS I'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM EACH OF YOU, AS I HAVE BEGAN TO BRING MORE SPECIFICITY TO WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TODAY, IT REALLY LIMITED ME IN WHAT OUR OPTIONS WERE, AND SO MY GOAL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT I PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, DRIVEN BY DATA, SO THAT IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU ALSO WOULD HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU C UNDERSTANDING THE GRAVITY OF THE DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE

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TONIGHT. SO I WANTED TO OWN THAT PIECE. DOCTOR SMITH, AND YOU KNOW DOCTOR FIELDS AGAIN, HE WAS RIGHT ON POINT AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME. THINGS JUST DEVELOPED OVER TIME AS I GOT FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. AND SO THAT REALLY LED TO ME MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FULL UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS TO DO. AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT I, I HEARD YOU ALL CLEARLY AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I ARMED YOU WITH THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO GUIDE YOUR DECISION MAKING. I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT I HAVE BECAUSE I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT. I WAS LIKE, I DID ASK THAT QUESTION. LET ME GO BACK TO THE WORD UPDATE TO SEE WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT ANSWER AND THE LAST TIME WE MET AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, SO I'M LOOKING AT ACTIVE STUDENT COUNT.

AND I KNOW BECAUSE BETH MARTINE, EVER SINCE DAY ONE I GOT HERE, I'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT CHARTING, TRACKING OUR ENROLLMENT TRACKING OUR DESIGN CAPACITY, TRACKING OUR DESIGN CAPACITY UTILIZATION.

AND THE BOARD GETS THIS EVERY WHAT, EVERY MONTH. NOW TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN OUR ENROLLMENT, TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN OUR SCHOOL UTILIZATION AND OUR CAPACITY. AND THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE DAY ONE, SINCE I GOT HERE. PART OF THAT IS, WELL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON ENROLLMENT. THE OTHER PART IS, IS ABOUT I KNEW THIS WOULD EVENTUALLY COME BACK IF WE DIDN'T TRACK THIS, BECAUSE NOW WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT WOULD GUIDE OUR DECISION MAKING SUCH AS THIS ONE. SO I'M LOOKING AT NEAL'S DESIGN CAPACITY, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE ENROLLMENT AND THAT DESIGN CAPACITY UTILIZATION. AT THIS POINT IS AT 113.67%. OKAY.

AND THAT'S A CLEAR INDICATION THAT AT SOME POINT, IF WE DO NOT BUILD THAT SCHOOL, KIDS ARE GOING TO BE IN TEMPORARY BUILDINGS UNTIL IT GETS BUILT. OKAY. AND SO I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, AND I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING REZONING AS WELL. AND I'M MOST ARE AT 70. LET'S SEE, I'M PULLING IT UP. GIVE ME A SECOND. 72 ANOTHER SCHOOL, MALALA, IS AT 103.17%. AND SO BEFORE WE EVEN THINK ABOUT LOOKING AT ELIMINATING THIS SCHOOL, WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT LONG TERM PLANNING. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE PASTA, BUT KINDER INSTITUTE HAS ALREADY SAID THAT FORT BEND COUNTY IS GROWING AT A RATE OF 58%. IT IS THE FASTEST GROWING AREA IN THE CITY, AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS THE FASTEST THAT BORDERS FORT BEND ISD AND LAMAR CONSOLIDATED ISD. IT'S GROWING, SO WE HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER CONSIDER THAT LONG TERM. IF WE DO NOT DO THIS, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE KIDS. WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE KIDS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO PUSH US TO REZONE IN SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY CLOSE TO OVER UTILIZATION OR CLOSE TO THEIR DESIGN CAPACITY. AND SO I'M OKAY WITH TRUSTEE HAMILTON AS FAR AS POSTPONING IT. I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH POSTPONING IT. POSSIBLY REBIDDING THE SCHOOL AND START LOOKING AT THIS REPORT THAT THE BOARD GETS EVERY MONTH AND USE IT AS A GUIDE TO MAKE THIS PARTICULAR DECISION.

SO THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ON ADVOCATING FOR NOT ELIMINATING THIS FROM THE BOND. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, AND THIS IS NOT FOR EDMOND. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE BOARD. HOW DO WE JUSTIFY I MEAN, REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. HOW DO WE JUSTIFY NOT BUILDING A SCHOOL? BUT WE'LL BUILD A POOL SOMEWHERE ELSE? THAT'S NOT THE BUSINESS WE'RE IN. TEACHING AND LEARNING COMES FIRST, THEN THE EXTRACURRICULAR. SO WHERE I'M AT ON THIS IS I'M OKAY WITH POSTPONING IT AND LOOKING INTO

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IT AND USING THE TOOLS. WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO GUIDE OUR DECISION MAKING BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE ONE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MISS HANNON, THANK YOU. THE FIRST THING IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE LOOK INTO TRAFFIC PATTERNS TO HELP DROP OFF AND PICK UP AT THIS CAMPUS. I KNOW THAT THAT THAT SEVERAL OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE THIS LARGE, AND WE MIGHT WANT TO BE LOOKING AT BOTH OF THOSE. SO I WANT TO SAY FIRST, JUST VERY QUICKLY, EVERY PERSON THAT WAS ON THIS BOARD THAT VOTED TO APPROVE PROPOSITION A, PROPOSITION B, AND PROPOSITION C, WE ALL DID IT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD. AND WANTED THOSE PROJECTS DONE RIGHT. THERE WASN'T ANY YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY NEFARIOUS ACTION ON ANYONE'S PART UP HERE. I KNOW, I KNOW, IT WASN'T MINE. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT IN PROP A, AND SO I JUST. MR. BANKHEAD, THANK YOU FOR YOU. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE 47.6 MILLION THAT WAS BUDGETED IN THE BOND PACKAGE. AND SO CAN YOU REMIND US HOW MUCH AND I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT OR BALLPARK WHERE ARE WE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE I BELIEVE BUDGETED FOR MISSION BAND REBUILD AND BRIARGATE REBUILD INITIALLY. RIGHT. I THINK ALL THREE CAMPUSES WERE BUDGETED AT THAT. SO MY QUESTION IS NOW WHERE DO WE SIT WITH THE ACTUAL COST OF MISSION BEEN REBUILD AND BRIARGATE REBUILD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AT 47,000,000.6? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MISSION GRADUATE OR JUST SLIGHTLY MORE OKAY AND CHANGE. OKAY. BOTH PROJECTS ARE 4951 MILLION. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE PROBABLY WE WOULD ANTICIPATE NEEDING MORE THAN THIS. AND WHEN I LOOK BACK AT THE BOND CONTINGENCY FUNDS FROM 14 AND 18, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COMBINED MAYBE 15, 16 MILLION, 17 MILLION. SO THERE'S NOT WE CAN'T YOU CAN SCRAPE THE PAN, THE BOTTOM OF THE PAN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, BUT YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THE PAN. WHAT YOU NEED. SO AND THANK YOU. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO GAVE IT. MISS MARTINEZ GAVE US SOME NUMBERS. THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. AND WHY. WHY THE NUMBERS MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT IN THE PROJECTIONS AND THE THINGS THAT WE RECEIVE VERSUS THE ACTUAL. THE NUMBERS. SO I DON'T REALLY I HEAR, I HEAR, I HEAR MR. GARCIA AND I HEAR MR. HAMILTON ABOUT CONSIDERING DEFERRAL, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS HARD BECAUSE THIS FELT LIKE A PROMISE TO ME WHEN I VOTED FOR SOMETHING. ALL OF THIS FELT LIKE A PROMISE TO ME. BUT. WHEN YOU GO TO THE STORE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR POCKETBOOK, IT'S YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T BUY WHAT'S IN YOUR CART. SO IT'S VERY IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO ME. AFTER I REVIEWED IT AGAIN AND I LOOKED BACK, I KNOW THIS CONVERSATION ISN'T ABOUT A BOUNDARY CHANGE, RIGHT NOW, BUT BECAUSE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS ELIMINATION, NOT DEFERRAL. AND SO ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS TONIGHT BROUGHT UP SHE DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T CALL IT BY POLICY NAME. BUT I THINK IT'S FC LOCAL. IS THAT OUR BOUNDARIES POLICY AND THAT SOME OF THESE DO BREAK OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN POLICY. SO I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS. I, I WISH I HAD ASKED THEM SOONER, BUT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN BOUNDARIES THAT YOU GAVE, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVABILITY, THE WALKABILITY, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, IN BEING BUSSED ARE ARE IMPORTANT. AND, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THE BACKSIDE OF HARVEST GREEN. CAN YOU GET THERE ON A ROAD OR DO YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND LOOP AROUND? THE SAME WITH PECAN GROVE? THOSE ARE JUST SOME QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE TO ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I TRY REALLY HARD BEFORE I GET ON THIS DAIS TO ASK THOSE

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KIND OF QUESTIONS. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE DOCTOR SMITH IS WITH WITH COMING ON BOARD WITH THE BUDGET FOR A BOND THAT HE CAN'T EXECUTE. AND AS A BOARD MEMBER, IT'S ALSO REALLY CHALLENGING FOR ME TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S NOT ELIMINATE IT OR LET'S NOT DEFER IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD. I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD FOLKS ANY MORE THAN I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN MISLED. SO THE LAST QUESTION, AND I'M SORRY THAT I'M GOING ON, BUT I RECALL THAT THERE WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS EITHER IN THE 2014 OR 2018 BUDGET. THERE WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL FOR THE EAST SIDE, MAYBE IN THE 521 THAT CORRIDOR THAT WAS IN THAT BUDGET PACKAGE AND WAS THAT VOTED TO BE ELIMINATED OR DEFERRED. DOES ANYBODY RECALL THERE WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A BOND PACKAGE. IT WAS ELIMINATED. IT WAS ELIMINATED. OKAY. BUT NOW WE BUT IN THE 2023 THAT CAME BACK AND IS NOW BEING BUILT, IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WAS PLANNED AND WAS ELIMINATED IN PARKS EDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL 16. THE DESIGN WAS FUNDED IN 18 BOND OKAY, OKAY. YES, I WAS CONFUSED. I THOUGHT IT WAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE NO I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF TRUSTEES THAT ARE WAITING TO SPEAK, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN SINCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. SO I'M A VERY LINEAR THINKER. SO I BASICALLY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TWO CHOICES. AND IF I'M WRONG, YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK UP BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE SCHOOL. TRUE. OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE SCHOOL. I VOTED FOR THE BOND AS A CONSTITUENT. I DID NOT SIT ON THIS BOARD WHEN THE BOND WAS CALLED, BUT I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. IT'S I'VE HAD TO CALL BONDS IN THE PAST WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, AND I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY WHEN THE DISTRICT MAKES PROMISES OR COMMITMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE DOES, I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION DOES. SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ALL IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT THE HAND WE'VE BEEN DEALT IS THAT THERE IS A SHORTFALL. THERE WAS A WHAT DID IT GOT AS HIGH AS $162 MILLION SHORTFALL. AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO SHAVE HALF OF THAT. THAT IS NO SMALL TASK. $80 MILLION SHAVED OFF OF $162 MILLION SHORTFALL. SO THAT THAT'S BIG. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. WE'RE STILL PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT $80 MILLION SHORT. I KNOW MR. GWEN IS GOING TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE JOB.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE JOB. SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE. AND AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO CUT. I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE THERE IS TO CUT TO GET US $80 MILLION DOWN, EXCEPT FOR CUTTING A SCHOOL. SO THE TWO CHOICES I SEE, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

SO YOU CAN'T PAY FOR SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO WE EITHER HAVE TO ELIMINATE IT OR WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WILL YOU GIVE US MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO BUILD THIS SCHOOL? AND THAT'S A COMMUNITY WIDE THING. IT'S NOT JUST IN THIS AREA THAT ALL FORT BEND ISD TAXPAYERS HAVE HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS I SEE. AND AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE ARTICULATED IT. THE OPTION WOULD BE TO DEFER A PROJECT OR CANCEL IT, OR AS YOU MENTIONED, GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS TO ASK FOR THE ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATION OTHER THAN UTILIZING THE 14 AND 18 CONTINGENCY, WHICH SOMEONE I BELIEVE IT WAS, MISS HANNON POINTED OUT, IS NOT FULLY SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. CORRECT. SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. I MEAN, IF WE SCRAPE LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE SCRAPE EVERYTHING WE HAVE TOGETHER, IT DOESN'T. WE JUST IT'S NOT ENOUGH. SO WHILE I MIGHT WANT TO BUILD THE SCHOOL AND SAY, YES, I WANT TO BUILD

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THE SCHOOL, I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN RESPONSIBLY SAY THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO BUILD THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEW JOBS THAT ARE MANDATED BY LAW.

AND ONE OF THEM IS OUR BUDGET. AND WHILE THE BOND, YOU KNOW, THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE IS ON ONE SIDE AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS IS ON THE OTHER, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT MONEY AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. AND THERE WE'VE ALREADY CUT $42 MILLION. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL CUTS, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE BASIC ALLOTMENT HASN'T BEEN RAISED IN FIVE YEARS. AND I MEAN, THIS IS JUST NO SMALL TAS.

SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE. I DON'T SEE IT AS REALLY MUCH OF A CHOICE. THE REASON YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING TO MISS JONES AND I WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT JORDAN MISSION, BEN GLENN, MISSION WEST ARE ALL AT HALF CAPACITY CURRENTLY, AND IT'S GOING DOWN OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. AND MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST IF I CAN BRIEFLY INTERJECT HERE, WE DID INCLUDE WITHIN THE PACKETS BEHIND THE PINK. RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THIS SECTION SO THAT EVERYONE CAN LOOK AT THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE THIS PIECE OF PAPER. SO THOSE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WENT OVER AT THE ORIGINAL WORKSHOP, WHICH I HEARD A SPEAKER TONIGHT SAY THAT WE'VE ONLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE OCTOBER SEVENTH AND THAT THAT'S WRONG. WE HAD A WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 5TH WHERE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED, AND THE REASON THAT I CALLED THE WORKSHOP IS THE BOARD PRESIDENT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS INFORMED ABOUT ALL OF THIS AND ABOUT THESE POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE UPON. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN AT THE REVIEW MEETING, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN. AND BECAUSE I REALLY I MEAN, THESE ARE IMPORTANT DECISIONS. SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THAT WE HAVE SOME CAPACIT.

SO HANG ON, IT'S MY TURN. IT'S MY TURN. SO, SO WE HAVE SOME CAPACITY. WE HAVE WE'RE AT 50% AND DECLINING. AND IN FACT IN FACT MISSION BEN GLENN GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 30%. SO IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS THEN THEN THERE'S CAPACITY IN THE AREA. SO I, I'M SAYING ALL THAT TO SAY THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DEALING WITH FACTS, REGARDLESS OF HOW WE END UP VOTING ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FACTS OR THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. ALSO, WE REALLY CAN'T MIX APPLES AND ORANGES. SO PROP A AND PROP C ARE SEPARATE. WHETHER WE BUILD THE POOL OR NOT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN PROP EIGHT. THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BECAUSE WE'VE SAID THAT AND SAID THAT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT THAT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE CANNOT SHIFT MONEY FROM PROP C IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SHIFT MONEY AROUND, THEN WE MIGHT BE HAVING A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO I PUT AT EVERYONE'S SEAT A PROPOSAL, WHICH SO I GUESS IF WE HAVE IF WE HAVE TWO CHOICES AT LEAST BY MY LOGIC, THEN WE'RE EITHER ELIMINATING OR WE'RE DISCUSSING GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION. SO I PUT IT EVERYONE'S SEAT. SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR US TO DISCUSS OR CONSIDER IF WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION. IF WE WOULD LIKE, WE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION. THAT'S ON THE TABLE, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE THIS AS A SEPARATE MOTION. BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THE ADMINS RECOMMENDATION PENDING CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT IS IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE AS A BOARD WHETHER WE WANT TO GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH A SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION. WE I CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COUNSEL, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE OR CANCEL THIS PROJECT FROM THIS BOND IN ORDER TO DO THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE

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DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY, BUT NEXT MONTH WE COULD VOTE TO CANCEL AND GO BACK OUT FOR THE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION ALL AT THE SAME TIME. IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO DO THAT. I MEAN, HONESTLY, I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO CHOICES THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALL OF THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, SO THAT WHEN YOU GUYS SPEAK AGAIN, YOU CAN MAYBE WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THAT. SO I'M GOING TO NOW GO BACK TO MR. HAMILTON. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY IF I MAY INTERJECT ONE COMPONENT TO THAT. SO ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IN NOVEMBER WE WILL HAVE ACTION ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE IN THE BOND THAT WOULD UTILIZE A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS. WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED, CAN THAT HAPPEN? THE ANSWER IS YES. IT CAN. BUT IT'S JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT MAINTAINING THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, IF WE HAVE ANY DERISION IN THERE OR THERE'S THE DECISION IS NOT MADE THAT WILL PUT THAT PROJECT AT RISK OF NOT BEING COMPLETED ON SCHEDULE. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE I HAD INTENDED TO RAISE THAT AS WELL, IS THAT WE DO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT NOT MAKING THIS DECISION THIS EVENING IS GOING TO HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT FOR ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS. AND I'M PROBABLY SOME VENDORS ARE FREAKING OUT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS. AND SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE FREAKING OUT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRUSTEES CONSIDER EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT OR AT LEAST THE TWO OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE BEFORE THEM. OKAY. MR. HAMILTON.

YEAH. THANK YOU. SO IN HONOR OF LIFELONG LEARNER BEING IN OUR PROFILE OF GRADUATE, I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TODAY. IF YOU ASKED ME BEFORE TODAY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRICE AND COST, I THINK I WOULD HAVE STRUGGLED AND SAID, I THINK THEY'RE SYNONYMS. YOU SAY, WHAT'S THE COST? AND THEN SOMEBODY SAYS, THIS IS THE PRICE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, BUT I LEARNED IN THE K-12 CONSTRUCTION WORLD THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. AND SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE COST, THEN YOU TYPICALLY DO THAT BY ELIMINATING SCOPE. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE PRICE, YOU MAYBE GO BACK TO THE VENDORS AND TRY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE GET CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS MORE CHEAPLY? CAN WE MAYBE CHANGE SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS? AND SO I KNOW WE'VE DONE A GOOD AMOUNT OF THAT. I HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS THAT CONVEYED TO ME THAT MOST OF THE CUTTING THAT WE'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN MORE ON THE COST CUTTING. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THE QUESTION TO DOCTOR VISITS OR MR. BANKHEAD AND CAN YOU ANSWER WHETHER THAT'S ACCURATE? HAVE WE DONE MORE COST CUTTING VERSUS PRICE CUTTING AND THE CONVERSATION THAT I, THAT I'VE HAD RELAYED THAT THERE MAY BE MORE ROOM FOR US TO CUT ON THE PRICE SIDE THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT, WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY THE, THE DEFICIT HAS CHANGED PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE THE END OF JANUARY WHEN WE FIRST LEARNED OF THIS. SO IT I BELIEVE IT'S 132 MILLION, THEN JUMPED UP TO 162. AND THEN IT'S KIND OF WE'VE CHOPPED AWAY AT IT TO GET IT DOWN TO LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT IT WAS AT THE PEAK. AND SO THAT IT IS KIND OF A VOLATILE NUMBER. SO CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? TRUSTEE? I WOULD SAY THAT ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT, OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN PROBABLY AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF BOTH. WE HAVE TRIED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SCOPE, ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT STUDENTS AND STUDENT LEARNING.

BUT AND WE ALSO HAVE HAD SOME FAVORABLE RESULTS WITH OUR VENDORS AND OUR PARTNERS IN TERMS OF GETTING PRICE AND GETTING VERY COMPETITIVE PRICE. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WE HAVE NOT STARTED THE DESIGN OF IT YET, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD THE SAME KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO, YOU KNOW, CUT COST AND OR PRICE. BUT WE ARE USING LIKE I SAID, THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD THUS FAR TO MAKE A PRETTY STRONG PREDICTION OF WHERE WE THINK WE'LL LAND. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THEN I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TRUSTEES. SO I THINK IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO HEAR SOMEBODY'S OPINION. BUT I THINK SOMETIMES IT'S EXTRA HELPFUL IF YOU HEAR FEEDBACK FROM SOMEBODY WHOSE MIND HAS CHANGED ON A TOPIC. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THE TWO THINGS THAT THAT KIND OF MOVED ME FROM BEING READY TO VOTE TO ELIMINATE THE SCHOOL, TO BEING WILLING TO TABLE THE DISCUSSION AND BUY SOME TIME. SO I DO THINK, BEFORE I SAY THAT, I THINK IF YOU ASK THE HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY WHETHER THEY WOULD PREFER US TO DELAY THE VOTE AND NOT VOTE TONIGHT OR ELIMINATE THE SCHOOL, I THINK THEY WOULD PREFER FOR US TO DELAY, EVEN IF IT PUSHES THE OPENING OF THE SCHOOL BACK A YEAR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE

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THEIR PREFERRED OUTCOME. AND SO BUT THE TWO THINGS THAT THAT REALLY CHANGED MY MIND. ONE IS THAT I THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE SAME CAPACITY ARGUMENT THAT WE DON'T QUOTE UNQUOTE, NEED THE NEW SCHOOL FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL. 16 AND WHEN A HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY MEMBER ASKED ME HOW WE DECIDED TO GO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DECISION TO BUILD MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 COMPARED TO THE DECISION NOT TO BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. MY ANSWER WAS THAT WE MADE A PROMISE TO THAT COMMUNITY TO BUILD THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THIS PERSON CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, YOU ALSO MADE A PROMISE TO THE HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY TO BUILD THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND AS WITH ALL OF THE BOND PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT COMMUNITY, THAT WAS A BIG REASON WHY THEY WHY THEY DECIDED TO VOTE YES FOR THE BOND. AND SO I THINK IT'S WORTH REEVALUATING AND ENGAGING THAT COMMUNITY. SO I SAID EARLIER, I STILL INTEND TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION. AND THAT'S BASED ON ON MY BELIEF THAT THIS IS THE BEST DECISION FOR THE DISTRICT.

AS A WHOLE. AND I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO SEEK TO BALANCE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DISTRICT WITH WHAT'S BEST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY A DECISION. AND SO I THINK THAT, YES, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOND DEFICIT AND THE CURRENT CAPACITY VERSUS ENROLLMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING IF WE DO HOLD THE VOTE TONIGHT. BUT THEN THE SECOND THING WAS SORT OF UNINTENTIONAL. SO I LIVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE DISTRICT FROM THIS COMMUNITY THAT'S IMPACTED BY THIS DECISION. AND SO IT'S ALWAYS EASIER FOR ME TO PUT MYSELF IN THE SITUATION WHEN IT'S IMPACTING ME DIRECTLY OR AT LEAST NEAR WHERE I LIVE. AND SO I WAS ACTUALLY EXPLAINING TO A PARENT WHY I INTENDED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THE SCHOOL. AND IN DOING SO, IT KIND OF HELPED ME PUT MY PUT MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE HARVEST GREEN COMMUNITY. AND SO IF WE IF WE KIND OF THINK THROUGH THE ANALOGY OF, OF IF THIS WERE ON MY SIDE OF THE DISTRICT, THEN WOULD I OR SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BE OKAY WITH SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE THE DISTRICT MADE THIS PROMISE TO BUILD THIS NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO REZONE FAMILIES OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEARBY SCHOOLS THAT HAVE CAPACITY. AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD DOES HAVE A SIMILAR DYNAMIC. AND I KNOW A LOT OF FAMILIES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE VERY UPSET ABOUT BEING REZONED OUTSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHICH IS BUILD TO THE NEEDED CAPACITY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOO. AND SO I THINK, I THINK THERE IS TENSION BETWEEN IN THIS DECISION. WHAT'S BEST FOR FORT BEND ISD AS A WHOLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE EXISTING CAPACITY VERSUS ENROLLMENT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOND DEFICIT ISSUE. BUT THAT'S ON ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND JUSTIFYING MAKING A PROMISE. THEY VOTE FOR THE BOND. THE BOND PASSES. NOT THAT THEY WERE THE ONLY COMMUNITY TO VOTE FOR THE BOND, BUT THEY DID VOTE FOR THE BOND AND IT DID PASS. AND NOW WE'RE GOING BACK AND SAYING THAT WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THAT PROMISE THAT WE MADE TO YOUR COMMUNITY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE GOING TO KEEP PROMISES TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S WORTH GOING BACK AND ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY. IF THE ADMINISTRATION COMES BACK TO US AFTER DOING THAT AND STILL RECOMMENDS ELIMINATING THE SCHOOL, THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AS AS THE SCHOOL BOARD AND, AND WE CAN TRY TO SAY, I THINK WITH A WITH A MORE INFORMED DECISION AT THAT POINT, THIS IS THE BEST FOR THE DISTRICT. AND WE LISTEN TO AND PROCESSED AND ENGAGE THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT SPECIFIC COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION CAN COME BACK TO US WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MISS JONES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE ALL TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY TRUST. WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ALL AND ALL OF OUR CAMPAIGNS. AND SO I LOOK AT THIS WHEN TRUSTEE TYSON QUOTED THE NUMBERS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GAVE VERSUS THE NUMBERS THAT CAME OUT ON TEN OVER SEVEN, THE FIRST THING CAME TO MIND WAS, HERE WE GO AGAIN.

AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. I'M SAYING, HERE WE GO AGAIN. WE GOT IN THIS POSITION BECAUSE WE WERE GIVEN 2021 PROJECTIONS THAT WERE OFF. OKAY. THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. AND NOW HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE ADMIN IS GIVING ONE THING AND THEY'RE REPORTING SOMETHING ELSE TO THE BOARD. AND SO WHEN IT IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE AT 30%, I'M LOOKING AT AT IT OVER

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HERE IN THE BOARD UPDATE. AND IS THAT 60%, 56% I SAID HALF OKAY. BUT YOU'RE SAYING 30%, 30% IN FIVE YEARS. OKAY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A DISCREPANCY HERE. AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS LET'S ALIGN THIS THE RIGHT WAY WITH THE RIGHT NUMBERS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DECISION RATHER THAN, OH, LET'S JUST GO DO LET'S DO ANOTHER BOND. LET'S BE TRUTHFUL, FORTHRIGHT, AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REPORTING AND HOW WE'RE WHAT'S GUIDING OUR DECISION RATHER THAN WITH OUR NUMBERS ARE THIS AND THEIR NUMBERS IS THAT THEY NEED TO BECOME IN ALIGNMENT WITH BOTH. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS. AND AS FAR AS BUILDING A SCHOOL VERSUS NATATORIUM, YES, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS, BUT OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME. OKAY. I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD IS 55, THEN WE HAVE TO USE THAT SAME PRINCIPLE FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING KEEPING. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IS 55, WE CAN SAY THE SAME THING FOR THE NATATORIUM. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT EITHER. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO IF THAT APPLIES TO S 55, THAT HAS TO THAT PRINCIPLE HAS TO APPLY TO THE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS JONES.

MISS HANNON. SO IF AND I GUESS IT'S OKAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS IF SOMEBODY AMENDS THIS MOTION TO POSTPONE, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT IT. SO I'M ASSUMING THIS WOULD JUST BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON NOVEMBER 4TH. AND THEN THAT PUTS US INTO ALL THE WAY INTO WHEN IS OUR THE 19TH IS OUR ACTUAL BOARD MEETING. AND SO I MEAN THAT, THAT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, I KNOW THAT THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS PREPARED TO VOTE TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING VERY CLEAR. AND I HEAR YOU, MISS JONES. RIGHT. THAT THAT WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, BY MISTAKE OR OR MISJUDGMENT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WE WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS ON A COUPLE OF PROJECTS AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT WAS NEFARIOUS. I DON'T THINK IT WAS THERE WAS NO INTENTIONAL. WELL, NO, I'M GOING TO BACK THAT UP. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO LET THE REST OF THAT COME OUT OF MY MOUTH. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A SPECIAL CALLED BOND, IT WOULD BE TO GET WHAT WE NEED AND NOTHING MORE, NOTHING MORE, BECAUSE THE VOTERS, I THINK, WERE VERY GENEROUS. IN MAY OF 2023 WHEN THEY APPROVED AND GAVE US THEIR TRUST TO SAY, WE TRUST YOU WITH $1.2 BILLION AND WE OWN THE, THE BIT OF INCREASE ON OUR END TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT SUCCESSFULLY. SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT I WOULD NOT WANT IF WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, IF WE GET TO THAT, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING BUT WHAT WE NEED. IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT A SPECIAL CALLED BOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. OKAY, PLEASE VOTE. WHAT CAN CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? ARE WE VOTE? WHAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO VOTE WAS AS PRESENTED. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION. I JUST CALLED FOR THE VOTE. SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ONE. AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION, WE CAN THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO ELIMINATE. IT WAS AS PRESENTED. AND THEN CAN I CLARIFY, DOES THAT KILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A NEW MOTION FOR THIS ITEM THAT YOU GAVE US? IT? IF YOU KILL THE SCHOOL, IT'S NOT ON BECAUSE NO IT DOESN'T. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS YOU CAN. SO HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN. IF THE SCHOOL IS ELIMINATED. SOMEONE CAN STILL MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS NEXT MONTH. THE PROPOSITION THAT BOND SPECIAL PROPOSITION YOU CAN STILL DO

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THAT IS THAT MAY I CAN I JUST ASK FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FROM OUR ATTORNEY? YOU CAN.

OKAY, BUT THAT'S ROBERT'S RULES. WELL, YOU COULD DO IT, BUT THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE LIMITED TO MERELY PLACING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THERE'D BE NO SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION. SO TO BE CLEAR, MR. BRUSH, WE WOULD. SO IF WE VOTE ON THIS ITEM TO ELIMINATE, THEN SOMEONE CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO PLACE FURTHER DISCUSSION OF A POTENTIAL. SO IT WOULD NOT BE ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. SO IT WOULD NOT BE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE THE IT WOULD BE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES OF THAT. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION OKAY. PLEASE VOTE. I CANNOT SHE'S NOT CLEAR. YOU'RE VOTING ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH IS TO ELIMINATE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 AND ALLOCATE BUDGET TO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY UP OR DOWN POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO A YES VOTE EQUALS ELIMINATE THE SCHOO. CORRECT. THANK YOU. IT'S NINE B.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TWO. MAY I MAKE A MOTION. YES. OKAY I MOVE TO ADD DISCUSSION REGARDING. A FUTURE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING, SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS HANNON AND A SECOND BY MR. SHOAFF. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT ONLY HAVING THE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA? OKAY. HEARING NONE. POINT OF INFORMATION. CAN YOU READ IT? ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE? I COULD READ IT IF THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I WROTE IT, BUT I DID NOT. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO LOOK OUT THERE TO MR. WILBANKS AND SAY, MR. WILBANKS, DID YOU CAPTURE THAT? YOU JUST LOST ME OVER HERE. I DID CAPTURE THAT, YES. OH, LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU, MR. WILBANKS. THE MOTION WAS TO ADD DISCUSSION REGARDING A FUTURE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION. THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING, SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. PLEASE VOTE. NO. THAT'S. IT. SHOULD BE. YES. YES. WHAT HAPPENED? MOTION PASSES SIX AND ONE. ABSTAIN. OKAY. I'M GOING TO ALLOW US TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN UP HERE A VERY LONG TIME, AND THEN WE WILL COME RIGHT BACK OUT AND FINISH THE ACTION ITEMS. I DON'T HAVE TO GET A. OKAY. NOW,M WORKING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION,

[9.C. Align Hightower High School Project to Approved Budget: Consideration and approval of aligning the Hightower High School renovation project to the approved budget of $14.7M.]

RECONVENED. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT, NEXT UP IS NINE. SEE A LINE HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT TO APPROVE BUDGET. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD. APPROVE. ITEM NINE C AS PRESENTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY DOCTOR GILLIAM. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? MR. HAMILTON? YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK, SO I THINK I HEARD THIS CORRECTLY AT THE AGENDA REVIEW MEETING. SO THE CURRENT FINE ART SITUATION AT HIGHTOWER DOES NOT MEET THE EDUCATION SPECIFICATIONS. AND I BELIEVE I HEARD THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD ALSO NOT MEET THE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS.

IS THAT ACCURATE? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU TESTING. THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO ACTUALLY, MR. HAMILTON, ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES MEET THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS. IT'S THE FEES. IT'S THE FACILITY EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS AND OUR FACILITY EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS SPEAK MORE TO LIKE THE PROGRAM SPACES, WHAT SHOULD BE ADJACENT TO ANOTHER SPACE AND SO THAT IS TRUE FOR HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL

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THAT IT DOES NOT MEET FEES, BUT IT DOES MEET EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS. GOTCHA. SO THEY MEET THE STATE STANDARDS. THEY DO NOT MEET OUR LOCAL PROGRAM STANDARDS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. YES. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MISS HANNON, SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO STAFF. IF I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT LIKE A REAM OF PAPER ON YOUR ON THE DAIS, BUT IF YOU COULD ALL OPEN YOUR. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS OUT LOUD, BUT IN CASE YOU DIDN'T SEE IT ON PAGE FOUR AND FIVE, IT IS A PACKET. IT'S A MEMORANDUM THAT SIDEWAYS. SEE THE MEMORANDUM THAT SIDEWAYS FLIP TO PAGE FOUR AND FIVE. BECAUSE I DID ASK THIS BECAUSE I WANTED THE BOARD TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN BRINGING OUR OUR FINE ARTS, OUR PERFORMING ARTS AND OUR VISUAL ARTS TO PARITY. AND THE WORD PARITY IS EXACTLY I BELIEVE, WHAT IS USED IN OUR ED SPECS DOCUMENT. SO I MEAN, YOU CAN JUST GO DOWN AND IT'S FIZZ AND REMIND ME THE FIZZ FACILITY.

WHAT IS FACILITY. THAT IS THE FACILITY EDUCATION STANDARD OKAY. SO THE FIZZ SO YOU CAN SEE HERE CLEARLY WHICH ONES MET BASED ON THE 2018 BOND. RIGHT. YOU CAN ALSO SEE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NOS YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHICH ONES ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN THE CURRENT BOND. 123, FOUR IN THE 2023 BOND AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT WE HAVE TWO CAMPUSES, HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES THAT SAY FUTURE BOND. AND SO I ALSO APPRECIATE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL INFORMATION BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN 2023, SOME THAT WERE ADDRESSED IN 2018. ANYWAY, THIS WAS VERY GOOD INFORMATION FOR ME AS I THOUGHT ABOUT A SINGLE CAMPUS THAT WE ARE ISOLATING OR CONSIDERING TO BE REMOVED. AND SO I WOULD ACTUALL, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A SPECIAL CALLED BOND AND I UNDERSCORED I WILL ONLY ENTERTAIN CONVERSATION ABOUT BOND ITEMS THAT ARE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED BASED ON THE 2023 BOND. I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I, I AMEND THAT MOTION, OR MAYBE EVEN ASK MR. BRUSH OR MR. WILBANKS IF THIS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR BECAUSE IT IS IN PROP A, IF WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION TO ELIMINATE IT OR DEFER IT BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS IT, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING, MISS TOLSON? YES, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. SO DO ONE OF YOU WANT TO? YES, YES. GO AHEAD. SO, MISS BROWN, DOCTOR DREW, IF YOU COULD GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE, PLEASE. SO GOOD EVENING. SO I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE HIGHTOWER IS THE SAME FOOTPRINT OR FLOOR PLAN AS AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL, WE WOULD IN ORDER TO BRING THAT CAMPUS UP TO PHASE, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SIMILAR RENOVATIONS AS WE DID IN 2018 TO AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE $6 MILLION OVERAGE AND SO RIGHT NOW WHAT THE PROPOSITION IS, IS TO BRING IT IN SCOPE BY JUST SIMPLY DOING THE AUDITORIUM RENOVATIONS AND NOT ANY ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM SPACES OR RENOVATIONS. THANK YOU. DOCTOR DREW. SO THE POINT IS AND I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THIS BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE BOND WORKSHOP AND AT THE LAST REVIEW MEETING, WE DISCUSSED BRINGING THIS INTO ALIGNMENT.

BUT THAT DID NOT PROHIBIT US FROM LATER. IF WE HAD THE FUNDS MAKING THOSE RENOVATIONS TO I GUESS EITHER DO WHAT WAS IN THIS BOND OR TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL RENOVATIONS THAT WERE NEEDED TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR FACILITIES. YES, MA'AM. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR FINE ARTS DEPARTMENT. IN ALIGNING TO THE CURRENT BUDGET AND THUS GIVING US ADDITIONAL TIME TO COLLABORATE ON WHAT REALLY DO WE NEED TO DO AT HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. THAT WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT MR. DREW JUST DESCRIBED? IT'S MORE THAT THAN WHAT WAS EVEN PROPOSED WITHIN THE 2023. YEAH. YES. RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION READY FOR US BY A NOVEMBER 4TH DISCUSSION, BECAUSE

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I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A SPECIAL BOND. WE COULD WE COULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO WHEN I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 6 MILLION WASN'T BUDGETED, BUT I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WHEN I, I THINK WHEN I EVEN LOOK AT THE HIGHTOWER PAGE, THAT IS PUBLIC FACING NOW, IT IS THERE AND IT'S ANOTHER AND NOTHING NEFARIOUS. BUT THAT'S A BIG MISTAKE BECAUSE PEOPLE STUDY WHAT THEY'RE WHEN THEY GO OUT AND VOTE. WHAT AM I WHAT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO GET? WHAT ARE MY KIDS GOING TO GET, OR MY GRANDKIDS OR MY NEIGHBORS DOWN THE STREET? MR. GWEN SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO ARTICULATE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING FUN TO SAY. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FULL POTENTIAL OF COST OVERRUNS UNTIL PROBABLY THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF CALENDAR YEAR 2025. AND SO IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING ITEMS ON A FUTURE BOND, YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT THE FULL PACKAGE, NOT JUST ONE OFFS. AND SO AS I SAY THAT, CAN YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? ABSOLUTELY. IT IS WITHIN THE BOARD'S PURVIEW TO DO THAT. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT AS WE GO ALONG, THERE'S STILL ABOUT 30% OF OUR PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT HAD INDEPENDENT COST ESTIMATES DONE. AND SO AS THOSE START TO COME IN, WE COULD SEE ADDITIONAL OVERRUNS AND IT MAY BE THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO TAKE THOSE AND ADD THOSE ONTO A FUTURE BOND AS WELL. AND SO THE THING THAT I WOULD CAUTION AS YOU DO THIS, CAN YOU DO IT? YES, YOU CAN, BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 29% OF OUR PROJECTS THAT NEED FULL COST ESTIMATES, AND THAT NUMBER COULD GROW AND YOU COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THAT LIST, WHICH IS WHY THE NUMBER IS PROJECTED TO BE 80 MILLION DEFICIT, BECAUSE WE WERE CURRENTLY AT 50, ROUGHLY 50 MILLION DEFICIT. BUT IT'S PROJECTED TO BE OKAY. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY, MR. HASSAN, BUT CAN I ASK MR. DREW, CAN YOU? I WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE IF I DON'T MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER, I. THIS ONE, I STILL I STILL STRUGGLE WITH IT. I KNOW IT DOESN'T MEET THE SPECS OR THE FACILITIES. EDUCATION. I'M SORR.

THE STANDARDS. STANDARDS. THANK YOU. I STILL STRUGGLE BECAUSE I LOVE THE LIST THAT I GOT TODAY RIGHT? AND I LOOK AT WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS THAT SAY FUTURE BOND. AND THOSE TWO SCHOOLS I BELIEVE ARE MUCH NEWER. AND YOU KNOW, IT DOES SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ROOMS THAT ARE NEEDE.

AND THIS ONE ONLY SAYS SLATED FOR AUDITORIUM REVISIONS ONLY. SO IS IT SLATED FOR AUDITORIUM? WAS THAT ALWAYS THE INTENTION THAT HIGHTOWER WAS ONLY TO GET RENOVATIONS ONLY, OR THAT IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR ITD THE NOTE HERE. YES. SO THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT MR. DREW HAS WORKED WITH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TO PUT TOGETHER HERE SPEAKS TO WHERE WE ARE AS OF TODAY. SO WITH HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL ADDITIONS IN THE PLANNING FOR THE BOND THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT 2023, IT WAS NOT TO MEET FEES. RIGHT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE THE LESSONS LEARNED IN THIS PROCESS OF BOND PLANNING AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT COLLABORATION PIECE IS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT. AND CAMPUS THAT'S IMPACTED, SO THAT WE'RE GETTING A GREAT ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IS I BELIEVE THAT IS THE PIECE THAT'S MISSING HERE WITH HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. IS THAT THE PLAN FOR HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL WAS NOT INTENDED TO MEET THE NEEDS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT A PART OF THE APPROVED BUDGET, IT STILL WOULD NOT HAVE MET THE NEEDS. OKAY. BUT THEY STILL THEY THEY ARE NOT CURRENT. THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE FACILITIES STANDARDS. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT. AND EVEN WITH $6 MILLION, THEY STILL WOULDN'T, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST GET THEM CLOSER TO THAT. SO I'M GOING TO JUST STOP MY CONVERSATION AND HEAR MY COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE THIS ONE I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH, BECAUSE IT'S. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOK AT THE LIST AND HOW MANY ARE MEETING AND THEY'RE NOT. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. MR. HAMILTON. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO I MADE THIS POINT IN THE AGENDA REVIEW MEETING, BUT I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WATCHES EVERY MEETING, SO SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ME THEN. AND ALSO THIS COULD BE SAID ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THESE 2023 BOND RELATED ITEMS. BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT

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ONCE RATHER THAN REPEAT MYSELF. SO NOBODY WOKE UP. NOBODY. NOBODY ON THE BOARD OR IN THE ADMINISTRATION WOKE UP AND DECIDED, HEY, LET'S GO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS DECISION IN A VACUUM. SO WE'RE HERE BECAUSE AS WE LEARNED FROM THE BOND INVESTIGATION IN THE SPRING, THE FORMER ADMINISTRATION MADE THE DECISION TO USE COST PROJECTIONS THAT WERE ORIGINATED IN EARLY 2021 FOR A BOND THAT WENT ON THE BALLOT IN MAY OF 2023. AND SO THAT DECISION PUT US PUT THE NEW ADMINISTRATION IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE. WE HAD SOMETHING IN THE BALLPARK OF $1.42 BILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS, WITH A $1.26 BILLION PRICE TAG. AND SO WE ARE NOW IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO TRY TO IDENTIFY COST SAVINGS AND PRICE SAVINGS AS WE LEARNED EARLIER WITH MY LIFELONG LEARNER LESSON OF THE DAY. AND SO AS WE HEARD FROM MR. BANKHEAD, STAFF HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF HARD WORK WITH VALUE ENGINEERING IN TERMS OF COST SAVINGS AND PRICE SAVINGS. AND SO ALL OF THAT, AGAIN, IS HAS GOTTEN US TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE WE'RE STILL PROJECTING TO BE $80 BILLION, I'M SORRY, 80 BILLION, $80 MILLION SHORT. THANKFULLY NOT BILLION. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WE'RE IN. WE'RE THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS AND SO I SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. HAMILTON. MR. SHOAF. I'LL BE REAL QUICK. AND I MISSED THE MEETING. YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL WITH PNEUMONIA AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE PROPOSING TO DO TO THE AUDITORIUM CONSTRUCTION WISE? IN THE AUDITORIUM, THERE ARE SOME RENOVATIONS TO SEATING, SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS RENOVATIONS, UPGRADE OF SOUND SYSTEMS, EACH PROJECT, EACH FINE ARTS PROJECT HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ONE, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL IDEA FOR HIGHTOWER. OKA, STAGE SOUND SYSTEM. OH, YEAH. LIKE LIGHTS AND RIGGING.

LIGHTING. OKAY. SO IS IT LIKE A COMPLETE GUT JOB OF THE AUDITORIUM THAT'S THERE? NO, IT IS A UPGRADE OF IN THIS CASE, AN UPGRADE AND RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM THAT'S THERE. SOME OF THE EXISTING SEATS WOULD REMAIN. THEY MAY BE RECOVERED AND ALL THAT. AND THEN AGAIN, THERE IS A SOUND SYSTEM THERE. THIS IS AN UPGRADE TO THE SOUND SYSTEM. THERE IS LIGHTING, RIGGING THERE. THIS IS ALL, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS AND OKAY, NOW DO YOU, DO YOU THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO GO UNDER UNDER THAT 14.7? I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THE HIGHTOWER AUDITORIUM. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A GIANT AUDITORIUM LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER CAMPUSES.

AND I'M JUST STRUGGLING TO SEE $14.7 MILLION WORTH OF WORK. THERE IS ALSO WORK ON THE HVAC SYSTEM OF HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL AND SOME OTHER RENOVATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS. IN ADDITION TO THE AUDITORIUM RENOVATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER IS 14.7. OKAY. SO THIS ISN'T JUST FOR THE FINE ARTS DEPARTMENT RENOVATIONS. NO, IT'S OVERALL, YES. SEVERAL RENOVATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS. OKAY. SO IS THAT NEW? THAT'S NEW HVAC UNITS ALSO, IT'S NOT NEW HVAC UNITS. IT IS SOME CONSIDERABLE WORK AT HIGHTOWER.

THERE IS A CHILLER THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY REPLACING RIGHT NOW WITH A JOB ORDER CONTRACTOR. AND THE OTHER WORK IS, YOU KNOW, CONTROLS, DUCTWORK, PIPING, JUST A HOST OF DIFFERENT DEVICES AND SYSTEMS. AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO PROVIDE YOU A FULL KIND OF LIST OF THAT. YEAH, YEAH. CAN YOU SEND THAT. SEND ME A FULL ITEMIZED. GLAD TO. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. SHOAF. SO, MR. BUSH, I JUST WANT TO, FOR CLARIFICATION SAKE, THE PREVIOUS MOTION THAT WAS MADE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, CAN IS WAS THAT SPECIFIC TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 OR CAN THAT APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD TO ANY OTHER OVERAGES OR ANYTHING THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? SO THAT'S WHAT I RECALLED. SO I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. SO ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION UNLESS WE HAD A GENERIC MOTION. I GUESS, UNLESS WE HAD A GENERIC MOTION.

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OR DOES IT NEED TO BE SPECIFIC? I THINK THE MOTION WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFIC, RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, TO THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. MISS HANNON. MAY I AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION OR WOULD YOU LIKE THE BOARD TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR DISCUSSION? BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO I'LL JUST MAKE I'LL JUST MAKE MY COMMENTS JUST SO THAT I SO I SAID THIS AT THE REVIEW MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIGHTOWER BROUGHT UP TO MEET THE FACILITIES EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS. I THINK I THINK THOSE STUDENTS DESERVE THAT. I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT THOSE FUNDS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BOND AND SO MY AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION IS THAT IS THAT THIS IS BASICALLY JUST SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND DO BRING THE BUDGET IN ALIGNMENT SO THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD TO DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS AT HIGHTOWER, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THIS, SEE WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS WE HAVE AND POTENTIALLY PUT THOSE FUNDS INTO HIGHTOWER. HOWEVER, IF MISS HANNON MAKES HER AMENDED MOTION, I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT GOING BACK OUT TO GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEEDED IN ORDER TO BRING HIGHTOWER UP TO STANDARD, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE STUDENTS DESERVE THAT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, GO AHEAD. MISS HANNON. MAKE YOUR AMENDMENT OKAY. I'M GOING TO TAKE A SHOT AT THIS. I HOPE MR. WILBANKS IS GOT HIS PENCIL READY. I MOVE TO AMEND THE PREVIOUS MOTION IN ORDER IN ORDER TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION, TO ELIMINATE $6 MILLION FOR AN ADDITION OF A FINE ARTS AREA AT HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL IN ORDER TO. IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING TO DISCUSS HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL MEETING, THE FACILITIES EDUCATION STANDARD FOR A FINE ARTS ADDITION. THAT WAS A LOT. MY GOSH, MY HEAD HURTS. THAT WAS TOO MUCH, WASN'T IT? THAT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE A MOTION TO POSTPONE. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, SO YOU JUST ASKED US TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM? NOT TO VOTE ON IT, AND THEN DISCUSS SO EFFECTIVELY. EFFECTIVELY. WE'RE VOTING TO POSTPONE INSTEAD. AND WHICH WOULD PREVENT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT WOULD PREVENT THE ADMINISTRATION FROM MOVING FORWARD. MR. GWYNN IS NODDING, SPENDING ANY MONEY AT ALL ON PROJECTS OR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS AT HIGHTOWER. BASED ON THIS BUDGET, WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD LEAVE IN QUESTION AS PART OF OUR DEFICIT. WE WOULD STILL HAVE ROUGHLY $6 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH FINE ARTS ADDITIONS AT HIGHTOWER THAT WOULD NEED TO BE RESOLVED IN NOVEMBER. RIGHT. SO IT POSTPONES THE DECISION. SO WHAT WE OKAY. WELL, I WOULD LIKE THE DECISION POSTPONED, BUT BUT IF WE I MEAN I DON'T HEAR A SECOND. AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. IT'S THE SAME POINT WE MADE ON THE LAST ONE. THIS ONE'S ALSO NOT A 50. GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY $51 MILLION PRICE TAG LIKE SCHOOL 55. SO THIS IS THIS IS DIFFERENT. BUT IF I NEED TO WITHDRAW THEM I'M GOING TO LOOK AT MR. BRUSH. IF I NEED TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION I KNOW I DIDN'T GET A SECOND, BUT I CAN STILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION, CAN'T I? CORRECT. SINCE THERE'S NO SECOND YOU'RE FREE TO WITHDRAW IT WITHOUT CHECKING FOR A SECOND, WITHOUT HAVING TO SEEK CONSENT. IT'S FUNCTIONALLY THE MOTION IS NOT LIVE SINCE THERE'S NO SECOND SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WITHDRAW OR YOU CAN. OKAY, OKAY. WELL, THEN YOU CAN. YOU CAN. YEAH. HEARING NO SECOND THE MOTION FAILS. DOCTOR GILLIAM OKAY. WELL, WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IF WE DON'T DO THIS NOW, IS THIS MONEY GOING TO BE PUT UP FOR LATER, OR ARE WE. WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, OKAY, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN NOW. BUT IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE OR WE DELAY IT, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? SO RECALL THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UNLIKE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55, WE ARE NOT PLACING MONEY INTO CONTINGENCY. WE ARE JUST SAYING WE ARE NOT SPENDING AN

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ADDITIONAL $16 MILLION OVER THE $14.7 MILLION THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO, IN SHORT, THE PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL, MINUS THE $6 MILLION IN ADDITIONS FOR FINE ARTS, WOULD MOVE FORWARD. THAT DOES MEAN, AND I'M GOING TO LOOK TO MR. BANKHEAD AND MISS DOCTOR BILLS THAT THE RENOVATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AUDITORIUM CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD. IT'S JUST THE ADDITIONS THAT WERE INTENDED TO BE MADE. CANNOT MOVE FORWARD.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION WITH THAT. WELL, I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. IT'S A MATTER WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S JUST SO MANY. THERE'S A LOT OF PARTS MOVING HERE. I WOULD HATE THAT. WE RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIGHTOWER SOMETHING AND THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THEN WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL IT BACK. I'M AFRAID. I WOULD JUST RATHER I WOULD THINK THAT POSSIBLY IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT. I WOULD THINK THAT MR. DREW TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. I DON'T I DON'T I HAVE A LOT IN MY MIND, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DELAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO WITH ALL OF THESE, WHEN AFTER WE CREATED THE FACILITIES EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS, WE THEN LOOKED AT AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST 4 IN 2018, AND THEN WE'D SEE WHAT WE COULD DO IN 2023 OR AT THAT TIME WAS 2021, ENDED UP BEING 2023. SO IN ALL OF THESE PACKAGES, THERE WAS A FINE ART. THERE WAS AN AUDITORIUM RENOVATION PIECE, AND THEN THERE WAS A FACILITIES ADDITION OF CLASSROOMS AND RENOVATIONS OF CURRENT SPACES PIECE. OKAY. AND THEY WERE BOTH THEY ALTHOUGH THEY HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME IN BOTH IN ALL OF THE RENOVATIONS IN 2018, EXCEPT FOR ELKINS. THAT'S HOW THESE WERE WERE KIND OF FUNDED. SO THERE WAS AN AUDITORIUM RENOVATION AND THEN THERE WAS A CLASSROOM RENOVATION OR A CLASSROOM ADDITION SLASH RENOVATION. OKAY, SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIGHTOWER IS THAT THE CLASSROOM ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS WERE CUT FROM THE 2023 BOND, BUT THE ONE PAGER THAT WAS ON THE WEBSITE WAS NEVER UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT.

SO THE COMMUNITY AND FRANKLY, I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GETTING THE WHOLE PACKAGE WHEN REALLY ALL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOND FUNDING PACKAGE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE BOARD IN JANUARY OF 2023 WAS ONLY THE AUDITORIUM RENOVATIONS. SO WHEN I WENT TO THE FIRST DESIGN MEETING AT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, I WAS SHOCKED BECAUSE I EXPECTED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING BOTH AND SO AT THAT TIME, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DECIDED THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS, NOT BRINGING THE WHOLE PACKAGE UP TO FULL PHASE, BUT AT LEAST PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL ART ROOM, A THEATER CLASSROOM, SOME BAND SPACES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THE $6 MILLION. BUT THE $6 MILLION WAS NEVER INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL 2023 BOND FUNDING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND SO HERE WE ARE. WE'VE WE SAID ONE THING TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE ONE PAGER, BUT WE DIDN'T FUND FOR IT. SO THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT DO WE DO NOW? SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS I'D LIKE US TO DO THE ENTIRE RENOVATION THE WAY SO THAT WE CAN ADD ALL OF THE SPACES THAT WE NEED. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. SO. THANK YOU, MR. DREW. MISS JONES, MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY. OKAY, WELL, WHAT I ONE THING THAT I WILL ADD AS A REMINDER, AND I KNOW HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY, BUT WE'VE SAID AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN, THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE'RE EXPECTING $80 MILLION IN COST OVERRUNS. IF THAT NUMBER COMES IN LOWER, THAT WILL GIVE US CAPACITY TO COME BACK AND REVISIT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO. AND SO THAT, AGAIN, WE REALLY WON'T HAVE CLARITY ON THAT UNTIL PROBABLY THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE 2025 CALENDAR YEAR. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AGAIN, NOT ONLY WITH ELEMENTARY 55, THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE EVALUATING AT THAT POINT AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE BOARD BASED ON FEEDBACK YOU'RE PROVIDING TO US. AND SO AGAIN, JUST AS A CAUTIONARY POINT, CAN WE DISCUSS THIS IN TERMS OF A FUTURE BOND? THE ANSWER IS YES. BUT ALSO KEEP

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IN MIND WE DON'T HAVE FULL CLARITY ON HOW THE 23 BOND IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY END UP UNTIL WE GET THOSE FINAL COST RESOLUTIONS IN. THANK YOU, MR. NGUYEN. MISS JONES, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY'LL KNOW WE ARE VOTING FOR THE RENOVATIONS TO THE AUDITORIUM AT 14.6, OR HOWEVER MUCH RIGHT? CORRECT. OR IS IT 16? NO, MA'AM.

NO. WHAT? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE 14.6, 14.7 IS A RENOVATION FOR THE ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL. AND AM I NOT CORRECT? IT'S ALREADY APPROVED. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. OKAY, OKAY. WE'RE TRYING TO. WE'RE VOTING. YEAH. WE'RE VOTING TO ALIGN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT OR REDUCE THE OVERAGE BY $6 MILLION, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD TAKE TO DO WHAT WAS ON THE COST SHEET THAT WAS PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING MONEY IN. WE'RE JUST REDUCING I GET IT, OKAY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING ARE THE ADDITIONS LIKE THE FINE ARTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, HIGHTOWER IS GETTING SOMETHING CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. SO LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT. IT'S NOT THAT HIGHTOWER IS NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THIS. IT'S JUST SOME THINGS WE JUST CAN'T DO. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SIMPLE AS THAT. AND THIS APPLIES IN THIS SITUATION AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MISS HANNON OKAY, I JUST HAVE. MR. GARCIA, CAN YOU. DID YOU READ THE CAN YOU CAN YOU READ THE MOTION AGAIN BECAUSE WAS IT WAS IT PRESENTED. IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST IS IT ALIGNING. DID YOU USE THE VERBIAGE HERE? NO, I JUST SAID 99 C IS PRESENTED. SO IT WOULD, IT, WOULD IT READS AS ON THE AS ALIGNING THE HIGHTOWER. SO ALIGNING MEANS CUTTING PART OF THE 6 MILLION THE MONEY OKAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION. AND SO IF THE MOTION PASSES CAN CAN I OR CAN I JUST ASK THAT THIS BE INCLUDED IN THE NOVEMBER DISCUSSION. IF THE IF THE MOTION PASSES TO ALIGN THE BUDGET WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE THE ADDITION CAN THAT JUST BE A REQUEST OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A MOTION THAT'S MADE TO ADD THAT? DO YOU DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION. IT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION FOR IT TO BE EFFECTIVE HERE TO, TO BE ADDED. SO IF THE MOTION PASSES, CAN I REQUEST THE BOARD PRESIDENT ALLOW FOR I MEAN I KNOW IT'S AT HER LEISURE. I GUESS AS SOON AS WE CALL THE QUESTION AND MAKE THE VOTE, IF YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MOTION, YOU WILL BE YOU CAN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION JUST LIKE YOU DID, JUST LIKE YOU DID A MINUTE AGO WHERE I ALLOWED IT. CORRECT. OKAY. BUT I'M YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO LET YOU DO IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO ASK I'M GOING TO ASK US TO PLEASE VOTE. ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. OKAY, MISS HANNON, YOU HAVE A MOTION I DO, I MOVE TO ADD HIGHTOWER. I MOVE TO ADD CONSIDERATION OF A HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL FINE ARTS ADDITION TO A FUTURE SPECIAL PURPOSE. PROPOSITION AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING, I SECOND, I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD BE CLARIFIED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IT IS MERELY DISCUSSION RATHER THAN ADDING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO CAN OKAY, I'LL REMOVE I WITHDRAW ADD MOVE TO ADD IT TO THE DISCUSSION ON NOVEMBER 4TH AND DOCTOR GILLIAM, WILL YOU WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND? I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. OKAY OKAY. GO AHEAD I GOTCHA OKAY. SO I MOVE TO ADD HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL FINE ARTS ADDITION TO THE DISCUSSION AT THE SPECIAL PURPOSE PROPOSITION MEETING AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING. I SECOND, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS HANNON AND A SECOND BY DOCTOR GILLIAM. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE VOTE.

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YES. MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. THANK YOU, MR. DREW. MR. GWEN, MISS BROWN, MR. BANKHEAD, DOCTOR WILTSE. NEXT UP IS ITEM NINE D MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD. APPROVE ITEM NINE D ALIGN

[9.D. Align Turf & Athletics and Athletics Renovations Packages with Approved Budget: Consideration and approval of Aligning Turf & Athletics Package (BP010) and Athletic Renovations (BP012) with the approved budget.]

TURF AND ATHLETICS AND ATHLETIC RENOVATIONS PACKAGES WITH APPROVED BUDGET. I. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS JONES. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. NEXT UP IS ITEM NINE E, THE 2023 BOND NATATORIUM

[9.E. 2023 Bond Natatorium Recommendation: Consideration and approval to move forward with planning to build a second aquatic practice facility with 2023 Bond proceeds.]

RECOMMENDATION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? YES. I MOVED TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OF A SECOND AQUATIC PRACTICE FACILITY, PENDING FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL FUTURE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND PROPOSITION AT THE NOVEMBER 4TH AGENDA REVIEW MEETING, I. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS HANNAN AND A SECOND BY DOCTOR GILLIAM. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? MISS HANNAN YES. AND SO I THANK THE BOARD FOR APPROVING A SIMILAR LANGUAGE FOR ELEMENTARY 55 AND CONSIDERATION OF WHAT WE FEEL LIKE WE PROMISED TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND IN THIS CASE, I HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ON THE NOMENCLATURE AROUND WHAT NATATORIUM MEANS TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE CHILDREN WHO SWIM AND STUDENTS WHO SWIM. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SAME PACKET, THE MEMO, THE KIND OF SIDEWAYS MEMO, IF YOU WOULD LOOK. AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, I'M GUESSING THAT WAS DOCTOR WALTZ'S DEPARTMENT WHO GAVE US NUMBERS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE. NOPE. I'M SORRY. PAGE. SOMEBODY HELP ME. PAGE SIX OF THIS PACKET IN OUR FRIDAY UPDATE, WE DID HAVE SOME NUMBERS OF SOME POOLS, BUT THEY WERE AROUND THE STATE. DIFFERENT ISD'S THAN NOT WITHIN OUR REGION. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACILITIES AND SITE. CYPRESS FAIRBANKS, KATY ISD AND LAMAR CONSOLIDATED AND I WOULD APPRECIATE BEFORE WE VOTE, PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE VERY CAREFULLY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR DISTRICT HAS. WE HAVE ONE FACILITY WITH H-VAC, AND WE HAVE ONE FACILITY THAT IS I CONSIDER I MEAN, I, I CONSIDER IT AN OPEN AIR FACILITY AND CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL. IT'S A PRACTICE FACILITY. THAT'S HOW WE NAME IT ON OUR WEBSITE VERSUS OUR SINGLE NATATORIUM. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE ATTRACT AND RETAIN OUR CURRENT FAMILIES AND NEW FAMILIES TO THIS DISTRICT, THE AMENITIES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SWIMMERS, PERHAPS AT WILLOW RIDGE OR AT MARSHALL OR AT SOME OF OUR, OUR SCHOOLS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GREAT FACILITIES. AND I EVEN HEARD MISS TORSEN SAY THAT HER DAUGHTER JUST COULDN'T STICK WITH IT BECAUSE SWIMMING OUTSIDE WHEN IT'S 40 DEGREES IN AN OPEN AIR POOL IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. SO I DO HOPE YOU CONSIDER THOSE, AND I HOPE YOU WILL POSTPONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS TO SEE IF THEY'LL THEY'LL SUPPORT WHAT WE PROMISED THE FIRST TIME AROUND IN PROPOSITION C. THANK YOU, MISS TARZAN. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. MR. HAMILTON. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO THOSE TWO DISTRICTS, THE FIRST TWO DISTRICTS, CY-FAIR AND KATY, I KNOW THAT THAT THAT WOULD MEAN PUTTING AN AQUATIC FACILITY OF SOME SORT. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE WORD NATATORIUM. SORRY, THAT WAS A JOKE INSIDE MY HEAD. I

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DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY, BUT SO FOR US TO PUT A POOL AT EVERY CAMPUS WOULD MEAN ACTUALLY 12, BECAUSE WE I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY. SO WE DO HAVE TWO EXISTING.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, AS WE AS WE ALREADY KNOW, SO THE BOND INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT WE USE THE 2021 COST PROJECTIONS. AND SO SPECIFIC TO THE NATATORIUM, THAT MEANS THAT GOING WITH A PRACTICE FACILITY MEANS $6 MILLION ABOVE WHAT WAS ON THE BALLOT. AND IF WE DO A COMPETITION CENTER, THAT MEANS, AS MR. BANKHEAD SAID LAST TIME, I BELIEVE IT WAS 15 TO $17 MILLION ON TOP OF THE $22 MILLION. AND SO JUST BUILDING THE PRACTICE FACILITY MEANS DIPPING INTO BOND CONTINGENCY TO THE TUNE OF $6 MILLION. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD SEVERAL MORE POOLS TO GET COMPARABLE TO KATY OR CY-FAIR. AND I DON'T KNOW IF LCISD HAS ONE AT EVERY CAMPUS THAT'S ALMOST SO THEY HAVE A DISTRICT FACILITY, AND THEN I GUESS MAYBE PRACTICE POOLS AT SOME OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT SO COMPARING US TO CY-FAIR AND KATY MEANS SEVERAL ADDITIONAL POOLS, NOT JUST THE ONE PRACTICE FACILITY OR NATATORIUM LANGUAGE INTENTIONALLY CHOSEN THERE.

SINCE NATATORIUM TO MOST PEOPLE MEANS. YEAH, SORRY. SO I SUPPORT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADDITIONAL $6 MILLION TO BUILD THE AQUATIC PRACTICE FACILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MR. SHOAF. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN WONDERING THAT I'VE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT IS ON THE ORIGINAL BALLOT FOR THIS BOND, WAS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN PARENTHESES AFTER NATATORIUM? THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG QUESTIONS, BECAUSE BOTH CY-FAIR AND KATY. KATY ON THEIR BOND, IT WAS IN PARENTHESES. AQUATIC COMPETITION FACILITY. I MEAN, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND THE DEFINITION OF A NATATORIUM WITH THIS. I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF WE COULD VALUE ENGINEER THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE IT AN OPEN AIR FACILITY WITH A GIANT ROOF OVER THE TOP, KIND OF LIKE A POLE BARN, OR LIKE A RIDING ARENA TYPE, YOU KNOW, SAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GO OFF OF ON THE DEFINITION OF A NATATORIUM OTHER THAN WEBSTER'S. THERE'S NO LEGAL DEFINITION. AND IT AND WEBSTER'S DEFINES A NATATORIUM AS A POOL, ESPECIALLY AN INDOOR POOL. SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS ESSENTIALLY. SO BEFORE YOU GUYS ANSWER, I HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED BY COUNSEL THAT WE WERE WE NEED TO LIMIT OUR CONVERSATION, OUR DISCUSSION TO THE POSTPONEMENT. SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT POSTPONEMENT ONLY, AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK TO MR. SHOWS. QUESTIONS THAT ARE SUBSTANTIVE.

SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY. I'M GOING TO CLEAR THE QUEUE. AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONVERSATION OR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO POSTPONE THIS? I THINK MR. HAMILTON JUST SPOKE TO THAT. DOES ANYONE ELSE? MISS JONES, I DON'T WANT TO POSTPONE IT TO.

AND MY REASONS WHY TO GO INTO RECONSIDERATION OF ANOTHER BOND. I'M NOT FOR THAT. AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT REPURPOSED FOR ANOTHER BOND. I'M NOT TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE GOT IN THIS SITUATION, BECAUSE OF ONE LITTLE SIMPLE QUESTION THAT WASN'T ANYONE DURING THAT TIME THAT WAS ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NATATORIUM AND AQUATICS FACILITY? AND I DON'T FEEL AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT MISTAKE BECAUSE SOMEBODY JUST DIDN'T ASK THAT SIMPLE QUESTION OF THE DISTINGUISHING FEATURES PRIOR TO IT EVEN COMING ON THE BALLOT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, THAT WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO GO BACK AND PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY RECTIFIED WITH THE CONVERSATION? AND SO I'M NOT FOR THE POSTPONEMENT, AND I APPRECIATE DOCTOR WILKES GIVING ME THAT, DISTINGUISHING THOSE DISTINGUISHING FEATURES BETWEEN AN AQUATIC FACILITY IS IN THE BOARD UPDATE AND ALSO A NATATORIUM. WHAT'S THE BIG

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DIFFERENCE HERE? SO NO, I'M NOT FOR THE POSTPONEMENT. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MR. GARCIA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ISN'T. EVEN IF WE BUILD THE PRACTICE FACILITY, WE'RE STILL SHORT.

CORRECT. WAS IT. WAS IT. HOW MUCH WAS IT? SIX. SO APPROXIMATELY 6 MILLION. ALL RIGHT. SIX. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN THE TO BUILD THE NATATORIUM WAS A FULL BLOWN COMPETITION FACILITY WITH 17. THAT'S THE ESTIMATES, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO NOW VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER ABOUT THE SPECIAL PURPOSE BOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES FOUR THREE. OKAY. NEXT UP IS THE ITEM NINE F POLICY, EIC LOCAL. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY, I MOVE TO

[9.F. Policy EIC (Local): Consideration and approval of proposed revision of Policy EIC (Local).]

ADOPT POLICY EIC LOCAL AS PRESENTED, EXCEPT WITH TWO CHANGES. NUMBER ONE BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION WITH THE CLASS OF 2026 AND DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FOUR SEMESTER RULE TO THE TOP 10% FOR CURRENT SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS, AND SENIORS. SPECIFICALLY, THESE CHANGES NUMBER ONE, REPLACING 2024 WITH 2025 AND BOTH INSTANCES ON PAGE THREE OF SIX. NUMBER TWO, REPLACING 2025 WITH 2026. IN BOTH INSTANCES, ON PAGE THREE AND FOUR OF SIX. NUMBER THREE REINSERTING THE SECTION TITLED STUDENTS IMPACTED BY CAP AND OVERFLOW, AND IN THIS SECTION DELETING AS JUNIORS AND SENIORS AND REPLACING STUDENTS WITH WHOM THEY WILL EVENTUALLY GRADUATE WITH THE CAMPUS. THEY ATTEND CFC LOCAL AND FOUR INSERTING THE FOLLOWING NOTE IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON PAGE FIVE OF SIX ADDRESSING ELIGIBILITY TO GRADUATE AS A STUDENT IN THE TOP 10% FOR THE CLASSES OF 2025, 2026, AND 2027, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS SHALL ONLY APPLY TO THE VALEDICTORIAN AND SALUTATORIAN, NOT TO THE OTHER STUDENTS WITH THE CLASS RANK IN THE TOP 10%. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION FOR BENEFIT OF THE TRUSTEES? YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LEGAL SERVICES. I THINK, THAT OUTLINES THE UPDATES THAT MR. GARCIA JUST READ IS THAT I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT? MR. WILBANKS? THAT'S CORRECT.

MR. WILBANKS, DID YOU WANT TO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY FOR SURE? YEAH. GO AHEAD. SO THERE ARE TWO. THERE'S ONE CHANGE I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT WAS ADDED TO YOUR BOARD BOOK. IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THERE WAS A CLARIFICATION ON PAGE ONE OF THIS POLICY. IT WAS A CLARIFICATION REALLY, TO AVOID MISUNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE VIRTUAL LEARNING PROVISION THAT YOU DISCUSSED AT THE WORKSHOP, THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST READ DOES TWO THINGS. IT, NUMBER ONE, DELAYS THE IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL 2026. AND THEN IT ADJUSTS IT DELAYS IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT FOUR SEMESTER RULE FOR THE CURRENT SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS AND SENIORS. THE BULK OF THAT MOTION IS THE SPECIFICITY OF WHICH YOU YOU'RE AMENDING THAT POLICY WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING IT IN 2026, THERE'S A CAP AND OVERFLOW PROVISION THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD BACK IN IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THIS CURRENT YEAR THAT THAT YOU'RE IN, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT OF THAT MOTION. SO EFFECTIVELY, THE MOTION DELAYS IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL THE CLASS OF 26. AND IT TAKES CARE OF THE CAP AND OVERFLOW. THAT WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE OF THAT. AND THEN IT I'M JUST REITERATING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND. AND THEN IT. POST IT WAIVES THE FOUR CONSECUTIVE SEMESTERS RULE. THAT'S ON PAGE SIX OF YOUR PACKET AND EIC LOCAL

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FOR THE CURRENT SOPHOMORES, JUNIORS AND SENIORS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD TRANSFER AND IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THEIR TOP 10% RANK. CORRECT. BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO VALEDICTORIAN AND SALUTATORIAN. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. SO I WAS I WAS READY TO DISCUSS THE I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO PLAY OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO I THINK THE BEST WAY FOR ME TO START WOULD BE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO REVERT TO AT LEAST REGARDING THE CLASS RANKING, IMPLEMENT RANK WHERE YOU ATTEND, STARTING WITH THE CLASS OF 2025.

SO I, I MOVED TO MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED POLICY, SUCH THAT RANK WHERE YOU ATTEND, THE RANK WHERE YOU ATTEND PORTION OF THE POLICY CHANGES WILL BEGIN STARTING WITH THE CLASS OF 2025. I SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. HAMILTON AND A SECOND BY MISS JONES. NOW DISCUSSION IS NOW LIMITED TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH CHANGES WHICH SIMPLY CHANGES THE START DATE FROM 2026 TO 2025 AND ALL APPROPRIATE CHANGES TO POLICY THAT COINCIDE WITH THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I STATE THAT OKAY. MR. SHOAF, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT OR DID YOU WANT TO PUNT? I'LL PASS FOR NOW. OKAY. MISS HANNON. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO SECRET THAT I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO DOING THIS TO OUR SENIORS. AND EARLIER IN THE EVENING, MR. HAMILTON, YOU SAID SOMETHING, AND IT WAS AROUND THE CALENDAR PRESENT PRESENTATION. BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF EVERY DECISION WE MAKE MAY HAVE UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES. AND SO I WISH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN PAYING ATTENTION AND TURNED OUT TONIGHT HAD BEEN HERE IN 2019. ON DECEMBER 17TH, THERE WERE FOUR SPEAKERS THAT OPPOSED ALL OF THIS HAPPENING.

AND SO IT DID HAPPEN. AND SO THE DECISIONS WE MAKE SITTING ON THIS DAIS AND I KNOW THAT I'VE MADE DECISIONS THAT PROBABLY ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES. I MEAN, WE SEE THAT PLAY OUT WITH THE BOND ELECTION. BUT WHAT I CANNOT, CANNOT STOMACH. IS, YOU KNOW, I GET IT. I GET IT'S AFFECTING ALL OF OUR KIDS. THERE'S NO GOOD ANSWER TO THIS. BUT I CANNOT.

UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN BREAK THE AGREEMENT THAT UNANIMOUSLY, THIS BOARD PUT FORWARD LAST SPRING TO SPELL OUT THAT THIS WOULD ALL START WITH CLASS OF 2028. I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS TO OUR SENIORS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE, I HOPE IT'S IN THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE MAJORITY OF THE KIDS. I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT IS. AND JUST LIKE I HAVE RIGHT HERE, I HAVE A CONTRACT THAT A KID GAVE ME THAT THEY SIGNED THAT SAID, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT COMMITTING TO JOIN THE ACADEMY, YOU WILL BE FOLLOWING THE NEWLY APPROVED POLICY CHANGES TO CLASS RANK. YOU WILL BE RANKED ACCORDING TO STUDENTS AT YOUR CAMPUS OF RESIDENCE FOR GPA AND CLASS RANKINGS, NOT YOUR PROGRAM OF CHOICE. SO WE USED OUR ROLE AS GOVERNANCE TO LAY OUT SOME RULES OF HOW THESE CHILDREN SHOULD PROFESSIONALLY PROCEED IN DECISION MAKING HERE. AND THIS IS HEAVY YOU GUYS. THIS IS A HARD DECISION. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS FOR KIDS TO SAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO ACADEMY VERSUS STAYING AT MY OWN SCHOOL KNOWING HOW MY RANK IS GOING TO WORK AND HOW IT'S NOT. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A KID GO THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND THE GPA, GAMING, THE RANKING, THE PRESSURE ON THESE KIDS, THE SELF-PRESSURE AND THE PRESSURE OF THEMSELVES, IT IS HORRIFIC. AND SO I IMPLORE, I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY BIG LEVEL OF DISAGREEMENT. I STILL WISH THAT WE COULD UPHOLD THE WORD THAT WE GAVE OUR

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COMMUNITY LAST YEAR WHEN WE SAID, LET'S LET THESE FOUR YEARS PLAY OUT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE COMMITMENT WE MADE IN 2019. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS TAUGHT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO EAT CROW AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T GREAT, BUT WE WERE WRONG. AND THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE. SO THANK YOU, MISS TYSON, FOR GIVING ME TIME AGAIN. I ADAMANTLY OPPOSE REVERTING BACK TO THE SCHOOL OF ATTENDANCE FOR THE CLASS OF 2025. EVEN THOUGH I AGREE 100% THAT THE CLASS OF ATTENDANCE SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WHERE IT WAS, AND IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER CHANGED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. DOCTOR GILLIAM. I DITTO EVERYTHING MISS HANNON SAID. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE THREE PAGES THAT I WROTE THE CHILDREN'S NAMES, THE STUDENTS NAMES DOWN OF WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO. AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 2025, IT'S I'M SORRY. IT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU DON'T CHANGE IN MIDSTREAM. YOU JUST DON'T. THESE CHILDREN, THESE STUDENTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY ARE YOUNG ADULTS. NOW. I MEAN, VIRGINIA, ERIC, AUDREY, BESSIE, THERESA, MONIQUE, DYLAN. THEY ASKED US. THEY CAME HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE STUDENTS ARE SAYING, WHAT OUR SENIORS ARE SAYING. DON'T DO THIS. DON'T TOUCH 2025. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM. WHEN WE STARTED THIS, SOMETHING HAPPENED IN 2019. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I CAN'T EVEN SAY WHAT HAPPENED. IT HAPPENED AND I BELIEVE IT HAPPENED FROM THE BOARD. AM I CORRECT? OKAY. AM I CORRECT? OKAY, SO SOMETHING HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENED IS WE START CHANGING THINGS. OKAY? SO WE START CHANGING THINGS AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED AGAIN LAST YEAR. WE START CHANGING THINGS. DID ANYONE ASK US TO CHANGE? WHY DID WE CHANGE? AND THIS IS JUST ALL WE JUST DID. WE CHANGED LAST YEAR. NOW WE'RE HERE. THESE ARE. THESE ARE SENIORS. WE DON'T DO. THESE ARE THESE ARE JUNIOR SENIORS COMING UP. WE DON'T JUST DO STUFF. WE DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE DO. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT. AND JUST TO SAY, IN 2025, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THEY LITERALLY WE HAD STUDENTS SAYING, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS, ESPECIALLY 2025. AND WE'RE NOT LISTENING. Y'ALL COME ON. WE'VE GOT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY STUDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR GILLIAM. MISS JONES, THANK YOU, DOCTOR GILLIAM. BEFORE I START ASKING MY QUESTIONS. I'M FOR 2025. REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THAT YOUNG LADY SAID THAT SHE WAS THE HIGHEST RANKING STUDENT TO GET INTO HOWARD UNIVERSITY ON A FULL RIDE. I WAS THAT STUDENT, WHAT, 30 YEARS AGO? YEAH, 30 YEARS AGO. AND I KNOW I YEAH, AT HOWARD AND I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE. I CAN I JUST COULDN'T I WAS JUST LIKE, WELL, DANG. OKAY. IS THAT BAD? ALTHOUGH MY PARENTS MADE ME STAY IN TEXAS, THEY HAD A GOOD SENSE TO KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO GET INTO. BUT IT'S THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU FINALLY GOT INTO THE SCHOOL THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY BY A POLICY, BY ALL THESE CHANGES, AND IT'S NOT AN ACADEMIC DECISION, IT'S AN ADULT DECISIONS. OKAY? IT GOES BACK TO ADULT DECISIONS. SO NOW SHE CAN'T GO TO PROBABLY HER DREAM SCHOOL. ON A FULL RIDE THAT SHE'S BEEN WORKING FOR FOUR YEARS BECAUSE OF ADULT DECISION.

I MEAN, REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT. AND HE GOES BACK TO SOME MORE ADULT DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE.

WE ENCOUNTERED THIS SITUATION BACK IN FEBRUARY. PEOPLE WENT OUT AND CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS

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DOCUMENTED AND RECORDED, OF SAYING THAT THEY WOULD CHANGE THIS POLICY IMMEDIATELY AND AFTER THE MAY ELECTION, WE HAD MAY, WE HAD JUNE, WE HAD JULY, WE HAD AUGUST. AND PART OF SEPTEMBER 2ND, A LITTLE BIT PART OF SEPTEMBER TO MAKE THE ADULT DECISION, BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE IMPACTED ANYONE BUT ANOTHER ADULT DECISION WAS MADE TO DELAY THIS. AND SOME OF US HERE ON THIS DAIS ARE LOOKING LIKE THE BAD GUYS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE NINTH HOUR AND WE'RE IMPACTING SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT THESE KIDS MADE. SOME OF THESE DECISIONS THAT THE PARENTS MADE BECAUSE OF AN ADULT DECISION TO DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. WE'RE IN OCTOBER NOW. THOSE BABIES HAVE SCHOLARSHIP APPLICATIONS OUT. THEY HAVE COLLEGE APPLICATIONS OUT. THIS IS NOT A DECISION I WANT TO MAK. IN OCTOBER, I WAS READY TO MAKE THIS DECISION. IN MAY. JUNE, JULY, AUGUST. TRUSTEE HAMILTON CAN TELL YOU MY NAGGING WHEN ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RANKING POLICY? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? WE'RE ALMOST FORCED IT ONE TIME BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY WEIGH IT, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS I'VE BEEN ASKING ALL SUMMER ABOUT THIS. OKAY, SO IT WOULDN'T AFFECT ANY OF OUR BABIES, BUT THE ADULT DECISION HERE WAS TO DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. AND WHERE ARE WE NOW? WE'RE LIKE, WELL, THIS IS WELL 2526. I DON'T LIKE MAKING THIS FOR 25. KNOWING THOSE KIDS HAVE THOSE COLLEGE APPLICATIONS. I'M KIND OF TORN AND DIVIDED. I'M STILL GOING TO STICK TO THE 25, BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD FEELING. MY OTHER SECOND QUESTION IS, AND I'M SURE YOU JUST HIT THE POINT, WHAT EVEN STARTED THIS POLICY CHANGE BACK IN DECEMBER 2019? WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THAT GOT US TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO RANK THE KIDS AT THEIR ZONED SCHOOL RATHER THAN FOLLOW SUIT WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BEFORE AND WITH WHAT ALL OF THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN DOIN. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENE? WHAT TRIGGERED THIS? HOW DID WE GET HERE? BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE IN 2019. SO HOW DID IT START? MISS TOLSON, MAY I JUST MAKE.

AND I DON'T I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT YOU, AND I. I'M NOT. I'M NOT PROVIDING YOU. I JUST WANT THAT. I JUST WANT THE ANSWER. BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PARENTS, I. THERE IS AN EMAIL FROM FROM A STUDENT. YOU REFERRED TO TODAY. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT BECAUSE IT, IT I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT BECAUSE HER ISSUE WITHIN THE EMAIL IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THAN IN THE CONTEXT OF THE OTHER STUDENTS. I THINK YOU I RESPONDED TO IT ALSO, AND I ALSO FORWARDED IT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE STUDENT THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT HOWARD UNIVERSITY BECAUSE SHE SHE HAD A VERY DIFFERENT HER, HER HER SITUATION WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER SPEAKERS TODAY. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE LISTENING THAT THAT WAS NOT THERE. THERE WAS A THERE WAS A VERY DIFFERENT ISSUE GOING ON WITH THAT STUDENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT A BUSY DAY AND NOT EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE. BUT THINK ABOUT THE OTHER STUDENTS LIKE HER, BUT THINK ABOUT THE OTHER STUDENTS WHO HAVEN'T COME FORWARD WHO ARE JUST LIKE HER.

AND WE CAN MINIMIZE THIS ALL WE WANT TO. BUT I STILL JUST I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE EVEN GET HERE? BECAUSE NO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, PER HAMILTON'S

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QUESTION TO THIS, IS HAVING THIS PROBLEM. AND I'M LIKE, THIS IS EMBARRASSING THAT WE JUST CAN'T GET THIS ONE SIMPLE THING RIGHT, THAT IT STARTED IN 20 1919, RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. WHAT HAPPENED? HOW DID WE GET HERE? THANK YOU, MISS JONES. MISS, MAY I CALL THE QUESTION? YES, SURE.

BUT I GUESS THAT WOULD PLEASE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. DOES IT NEED A DOES CALLING THE QUESTION. IT NEEDS A SECOND. IT NEEDS A SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW IF I CAN MISS DOCTOR SMITH TO SPEAK BECAUSE HE HAS ASKED ME TO SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM CLEAR WITH THE BOARD, OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND EVERYONE WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I THINK BASED ON ALLOWING THE ADMINISTRATION AND I PROPER PLANNING, PROPER TIME TO TRANSITION, I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST THAT WE HONOR THE 2028 COMMITMENT THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER, AND YOU MAY ALSO RECALL MY COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE, THAT IF THE BOARD CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN HONORING THE 2028 POLICY, THAT THE 2026 WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, SO THAT WE COULD AGAIN PLAN AND ALLOCATE THE PROPER TIME TO TRANSITION FOR OUR STUDENTS. OUR STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK, AND PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOME INSIGHT AND CONTEXT INTO THE IMPACT THAT THIS DECISION WILL HAVE ON OUR STUDENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO STRESS THAT 2028 WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IF THE BOARD CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, 2026 WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST STEP TO ALLOW TIME TO TRANSITION.

THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU DOCTOR SMITH. POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF ORDER.

PRIVILEGE. POINT OF ORDER. I MADE THE MOTION AND I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON MY MOTION. SO CAN I EITHER PLEASE SPEAK ON THE MOTION OR PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE CALLING? THE QUESTION. SO THE APPROPRIATE THING WOULD BE TO VOTE ON THE CALL OF THE QUESTION. OKAY. AND IF THAT VOTE FAILS, THEN DEBATE WOULD BE REOPENED ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. OKAY. SO BECAUSE SHE CALLED THE QUESTION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO IMPLEMENT IN 2025, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WE'RE VOTING ON CALLING. OH, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. WE'RE VOTING ON CALLING THE QUESTION. OKAY. WAIT, YOU'RE YOU'RE VOTING.

YOU'RE VOTING ON ON WHETHER OR NOT TO VOTE YES TO END TO END DEBATE, TO END DEBATE. YES, TO END DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION. WELL, I DECLARE IT AND DO IT AGAIN. I'M THINKING HE WAS VOTING ON THE RECLEARED AND DO IT AGAIN. OKAY. CAN WE CLEAR THE VOTES? CAN WE DO THAT? LET'S CLEAR THE VOTES. LISTEN, LISTEN. WE ARE VOTING ON MISS HANNON CALLED THE QUESTION. THERE WAS A SECOND, AND WE'RE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT TO END DISCUSSION TO END DEBATE.

THE. MOTION FAILS. FIVE TWO. OKAY, MR. HAMILTON. SO FIRST I WANT TO START WITH, IF I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY IT ANYWAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO FACT CHECK TWO COMPETING CLAIMS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER. IF WE CAN, BECAUSE I THINK THE CLAIMS MAY IMPACT HOW PEOPLE VOTE. SO WE WERE HANDED A COPY OF A CONTRACT THAT ACADEMY STUDENTS SIGN STATING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WILL BE RANKED WHERE THEY'RE ZONED, AND THEN ANOTHER ACADEMY STUDENT LATER STATED THAT THEY WERE. IT WAS CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO ACADEMY STUDENTS THAT THAT WAS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. SO WAS IT COMMUNICATED IN ADDITION TO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED? WAS IT COMMUNICATED TO ACADEMY STUDENTS THAT THIS, THAT THE CLASS RANKING COMPONENT WAS SUBJECT TO CHANGE? DON'T SAY IT ON THEIR.

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EVENING. SO THE CONTRACT THAT YOU REFERENCED THAT INDICATES THAT STUDENTS WILL BE RANKED BY THEIR ATTENDANCE ZONE IS THE ONLY CONTRACT THAT STUDENTS WERE ASKED TO SIGN. ANYTHING ELSE CONTRARY TO IT BEING SUBJECT TO CHANGE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE, OR IT'S THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO I ALSO SO I WANT TO CLARIFY. SO WHAT WHAT I TRIED TO CONVEY DURING THE AGENDA REVIEW MEETIN, I BELIEVE WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CONVEY WAS ACCURATE, BUT MAYBE I SAID IT IN AN INACCURATE WAY. SO THE RANKING THAT WENT OUT IN OCTOBER WILL BE USED FOR THE STUDENTS WHO APPLY FOR EARLY ADMISSION. AND AS THE ADMINISTRATION STATED DURING THAT MEETING, THAT DECISION WILL GO BACK IN EARLY DECEMBER. AND SO THAT MEANS I DON'T THINK THIS WAS INTENTIONAL ON ANYBODY'S PART, BUT THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO CHANGE IT. IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH, AS MISS DAWSON SAID, THEY WILL HAVE, THEY STILL HAVE TO CONFIRM THE FINAL CLASS RANKING. OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY COULD JUST NOT TAKE ANY CLASSES THEIR SPRING SEMESTER, THEIR SENIOR YEAR FOR WHATEVER REASON.

OR THEY COULD JUST STOP TRYING. AND SO BUT FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, IT'S A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY THAT ANY EARLY ADMISSION THAT IS GRANTED OR EARLY ACCEPTANCE THAT IS GRANTED WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

EVEN IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE. AND THERE'S A THERE'S A CHANGE. DOCTOR JORDAN, DID YOU HAVE DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? OKAY. IT IS NOT. SO THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR ALL OF OUR UNIVERSITIES. SO STUDENTS HAVE THE OPTION TO REPORT THEIR GRADES FOR EARLY ACTION. HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, WHAT THEY WILL DO IS VERIFY YOUR GRADES ONCE YOUR FINAL TRANSCRIPT IS SUBMITTED. AND THEY STATE OPENLY WHICH MOST PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES IN TEXAS DO, THAT IF YOUR GRADES DO NOT ALIGN, THEN THEY COULD POTENTIALLY PULL YOUR ADMISSION AND SO THEY CAN SELF-REPORT RIGHT NOW AS PART OF EARLY ACTION. HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE TO SUBMIT AND YOUR FINAL TRANSCRIPT MUST MATCH WHAT YOU SUBMITTED IN YOUR SELF REPORT. RIGHT. SO BUT I STILL THINK MY POINT STANDS. I BELIEVE BECAUSE IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE GRADE POINT AVERAGE DOES NOT CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT THE BUT THE RANK COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE BY A FEW DOZEN PLUS. AND SO IN THAT SCENARIO, I THINK IF ONLY THE RANK CHANGES. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE APPLICATION STAYS THE SAME, THEN WHAT? FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, IT'S A VIRTUAL CERTAINTY THAT NO UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO GO BACK AND REVOKE AN EARLY ADMISSION OR EARLY EARLY ACCEPTANCE DECISION BASED ON ONLY A CLASS RANK CHANGE. AND I AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD THAT THAT A STUDENT WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THE SCHOOL BOARD CHANGED THE WAY WE DO CLASS RANKING. THAT'S WHY MY CLASS RANK DROPPED. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME OR SIMILAR. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN CONVEYED TO ME BY GUIDANCE COUNSELORS. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, WHETHER IT'S U OF H UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. SO THE TOP 6% ARE GUARANTEED ADMISSION.

THAT'S A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE MARKET, RIGHT. AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU DROP A DOZEN AND YOU'RE NOT IN THAT TOP 6%, THAT DOES NOT GUARANTEE YOU A SEAT, ESPECIALLY IN HIGHLY COMPETITIVE UNIVERSITIES. AND SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE GUIDANCE COUNSELOR, I DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT OF THAT INFORMATION. THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU, BUT I CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. IF YOU MOVE OUT OF THE TOP 6%, THEN YOUR ADMISSION AND YOUR ACCEPTANCE COULD GO TO CONDITIONAL AND YOU COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE SCHOLARSHIP. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. SO FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL ACTING IN WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT AND OUR STUDENTS. AND SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PROVIDED FEEDBACK. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS BY EMAILING THE BOARD, BY CREATING AND SIGNING PETITIONS, AND BY SPEAKING TONIGHT AS POSSIBLY THE BEST CIVICS LESSON THEY COULD, THEY COULD GET IS BY ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND MAKING THEIR VOICE HEARD. AND SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I HEARD EVERY VOICE AND THERE WERE GREAT POINTS MADE BY STUDENTS WHO ARE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THIS ISSUE WITH ME AND BY STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT ON THE SAME SIDE OF THIS ISSUE AS ME. AND SO WE HAVE HAD FEEDBACK ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE, INCLUDING 2025 STUDENTS, 2025 PARENTS, AND 2026 STUDENTS, 2026 PARENTS. AND SO THERE IS

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FEEDBACK ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE. AND SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY THAT BY MAKING THE DECISION ON ONE DIRECTION, YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE STUDENTS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD FEEDBACK ON BOTH SIDES. SO WE ARE THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN TEXAS OUT OF, I BELIEVE, OVER 1200 SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT RANKS STUDENTS BASED ON WHERE THEY LIVE INSTEAD OF WHERE THEY ATTEND FOR ACADEMY OR PROGRAM OF CHOICE STUDENTS. SO THE BOARD DECIDED LAST SUMMER THAT RANKING STUDENTS WHERE THEY ATTEND IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR 2028 AND BEYOND. THE EXPERIENCE WITH RANKING THE CLASS OF 2020 FOR WHERE THEY LIVE CONVINCED ME THAT WE NEED TO RIP THE BAND AID OFF AND DO THE RIGHT THING NOW, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL 2028 TO DO THE RIGHT THING. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO STRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL ABSURDITY. SO I AGREE WITH A LITTLE SIDE NOTE. I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HANNAN. SO THE COMBINATION OF THE ACADEMY STUDENTS AND THE LEGISLATION GOVERNING THE RANKING SITUATION PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TWO BAD OUTCOMES. AS TRUSTEE HANNAN SAID. HOWEVER, I THINK THE EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT THAT RANKING STUDENTS WHERE THEY LIVE IS THE WORSE OF THE TWO OPTIONS. AND SO THEREFORE, I WANT TO STRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL ABSURDITY OF RANKING STUDENTS AT SCHOOLS WHERE THEY DO NOT ATTEND. AND I WANT TO USE BATHROOMS TO MAKE THAT POINT. ONE OPTION TONIGHT MEANS HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS IN THE CLASS OF 2025 WILL BE RANKED AT SCHOOLS THEY HAVE NEVER SET FOOT IN, AND DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE THE BATHROOMS IN THAT SCHOOL ARE LOCATED. SO LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING AND RANK THE CLASS OF 2025 WHERE THEY ATTEND, AND AT THE CAMPUSES WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY LOCATE THE BATHROOMS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HAMILTON. MR. HANNAN, I MEAN, MISS MISS HANNAN. WELL, THAT'S A FIRST.

BUT THANK YOU. BUT AT LEAST YOU GOT MY LAST NAME RIGHT. SO MR. HAMILTON, WE BOTH AGREE. WE BOTH AGREE THAT THE SCHOOL OF ATTENDANCE IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE RANKED. IT'S A QUESTION OF THE TIMELINE. AND SO I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT THE CONTRACT. RIGHT. SO THERE WAS AN ACADEMY CONTRACT THAT THAT KID SIGNED. BUT I THINK THE POLICY IS OUR CONTRACT. THE POLICY THAT WE PASSED LAST YEAR WAS THE CONTRACT. AND I KNOW THAT KIDS HAVE RETURNED TO THEIR HOME CAMPUS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THEY MOVED OUT OF AN ACADEMY TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOME CAMPUS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE RANKED AGAINST KIDS. THEY WEREN'T GOING WITH. LIKEWISE, WE HEARD FROM ONE CHILD, NOT CHILD. IT IS A YOUNG ADULT TO SAY SHE WAS ACCEPTED INTO AN ACADEMY, BUT SHE SAW HOW THE RANKING WAS GOING TO PLAY OUT, SO SHE STAYED AT HER HOME ACADEMY OR HER HOME SCHOOL. AND MY POINT BEING, WE IN THIS POLICY, WE MADE A CONTRACT WITH OUR STUDENTS AND WITH OUR PARENTS AND WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING HOMES AND LOOKING AT WHERE IS MY KID GOING TO GO.

SO WE MADE THAT CONTRACT WITH THE TIMELINE THAT SAYS, HERE IS WHEN IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT FOR YOU. SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I WAS ONE OF FOUR THAT SPOKE ON DECEMBER 17TH OF 2019. FULL WEL, KNOWING THAT IT WAS GOING TO MESS UP MY KIDS OPPORTUNITY TO BE RANKED HIGHER RIGHT? SO WHY WOULD I DO THAT? BECAUSE I'M FULLY FULL ON BELIEVED. YOU ARE RANKED WITH THE TEACHERS WHO LOVE YOU EVERY DAY, WHO TEACH YOU EVERY DAY, WHO'S FRIENDS YOU HAVE. BUT THE GAME CHANGES WHEN YOU MAKE A CONTRACT WITH PEOPLE AND SAY, THIS IS HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT, AND PEOPLE MAKE AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY ARE YOUNG ADULTS. BUT THAT'S A HUGE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS THAT THEY'VE EVER MADE IN THEIR LIVES. TO GO TO ACADEMY OR STAY AT THEIR SCHOOL, WHERE THEY'RE ZONED. SO THAT IS MY POSITION. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSITION. I KNOW YOU ■THINK THAT KIDS. I'VE GOT MY POSITION AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS HANNA. MR. GARCIA. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I HAVE A SENIOR AND HE'S NOT IN THE TOP 10%, THE DAY AFTER WE HAD OUR AGENDA REVIEW MEETING TUESDAY, HE GOT TWO LETTERS OF ACCEPTANCE FROM TWO UNIVERSITIES. AND WE WERE STILL DOING THE APPLICATION FOR A&M. SO THEN I SAID, WELL, THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO GO THROUGH AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU GOT TO DO TO GET INTO A TOP 10% SCHOOL, KNOWING THAT HE'S NOT IN THE TOP 10%. AND SO WE DID FINISH THE APPLICATION DUE TO ALL THE SELF-REPORTING. AND IT WAS VERY,

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VERY, INCREDIBLY STRESSFUL AS A PARENT, AS A STUDENT AND JUST KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I CALLED A&M, I ASKED THEM ABOUT THE RANKING. I CALLED STEPHEN F AUSTIN, I CALLED TEXAS STATE. I CAN'T CALL EVERY UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. I VERIFIED WHAT DOCTOR JOHNSON WAS SAYING ABOUT WHAT UT AUSTIN WAS SAYING, THAT IF YOU FALL OUT, THEN THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. AND SO I DON'T AGREE THAT THE OPPORTUNE MOMENT TO PASS THIS POLICY WAS IN THE SUMMER. PEOPLE JUST GOT ELECTED. WE HAD A WORKSHOP. IT WAS ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS ASKED THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS GOOD POLICY DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. YOU CAN'T SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND CHANGE A POLICY. WE JUST CHANGED IT. IF ANYTHING, THE OPPORTUNE MOMENT TO PASS THE POLICY WAS WHEN WE PASSED IT LAST YEAR. WE SHOULD HAVE DID IT LAST YEAR AND WE SHOULD HAVE DID IT FOR THIS YEAR. SO NOW WE COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE MESSED THAT UP. WE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. AND SO I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST YEAR AND THAT WAS THE PERFECT TIME TO DO IT. THE ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT US THE RECOMMENDATION. THE POLICY COMMITTEE AGREED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, AND WE VOTED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE SAID, LET'S DO IT BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. AND SO NOW WE'RE SITTING HERE AT ANOTHER FOUR THREE VOTE, PUTTING PEOPLE ON NOTICE BETWEEN WHO'S GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS PERSON NEXT YEAR OR WHO'S GOING TO DO THIS, OR WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT. AND SO TO ME, I THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY UNFAIR TO DO TO YOUR COLLEAGUES. WE HAD THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT LAST YEAR. AND THEN HERE WE ARE. ANOTHER ISSUE WHERE WE'RE DIVIDED SPLIT.

WE'VE GOT PEOPLE ALL OVER AND IT AND I'VE CALLED AND I'VE CALLED UNIVERSITIES. I'M NOT TALKING TO GUIDANCE COUNSELORS. I'M GOING DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE. AND SOME SAY THAT THEY CALCULATE THEIR OWN RANK, AND SOME SAY THAT, WELL, WE'LL STILL HONOR IT. MAYBE. AND THEN UT, UT. RIGHT.

SO UT AND TO ME THAT'S A BIG DEAL. AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A FEW KIDS. AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD BE RANKED TO WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL. AND I WAS VERY UPSET WHEN WE HAD VALEDICTORIANS BECOME VALEDICTORIANS OF SCHOOLS THAT THEY DIDN'T GO TO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT. BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT I KNOW WE COULD SAY WE RIP THE BAND AID OFF, BUT THAT WAS THE TIME TO DO IT WAS LAST YEAR. SO I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE HERE. I DON'T THINK DOING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I THINK YOU KNOW, I'M I APPRECIATE TRUSTEE HAMILTON'S FROM LAST MEETING WHERE THE 2026 IS A IS A IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. AND IT GIVES THE ADMINISTRATION TIME. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVEN IF STUDENTS DID APPLY EARLY, BUT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT OTHER SCHOOLS, I WE MISSED A COUPLE OF WE MISSED THE DEADLINE FOR A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS. SO WE IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE TOP 10%. PEOPLE SAY OH, THEY'RE IN THE TOP 10%. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED. THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT'S NOT TRUE. THEY MAY HAVE APPLIED TO SOME SCHOOLS AND MAY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO SOME, BUT THEY MAY BE WAITING BACK FROM OTHERS AND MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T SENT LIKE ME. WE DIDN'T GET IT OFF IN TIME. SO NOW YOU GOT TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT DEADLINE. AND SO EVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS IS STRESSING KIDS OUT. IT'S STRESSING THEM OUT IMMENSELY. IT'S STRESSING ME OUT. AND I'M LIKE, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO I'M NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 10%. WE JUST GOT TO DO ALL THIS EXTRA STUFF.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I AM. I, I AGREE AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY PUTTING PRESSURE AND CALLING US AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE. WE COULDN'T WAIT TILL 2028. SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AT ALL. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATION, DOCTOR SMITH'S AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION. WE DID IT LAST YEAR. BUT RATHER THAN WAIT FOR 2028, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH SAYING 2026. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I CALL THE QUESTION SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO CALL THE QUESTION. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHETHER TO END DISCUSSION. MOTION PASSES SIX ONE. SO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS MR. HAMILTON'S AMENDED MOTION TO IMPLEMENT EIC UPDATES IN 2025,

[04:35:06]

WITH THE APPROPRIATE CHANGES TO THE POLICY. SO THAT'S THE NEXT MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

SINCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET, I'M GOING TO SPEAK OKAY. SINCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET, I'M GOING TO SPEAK. SO I, I AGREE. SO THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA, BECAUSE I AGREE THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S I THINK THE LESSON FOR STUDENTS HERE IS ADULT PEOPLE LEARNING HOW TO DISAGREE, LEARNING HOW TO DISAGREE, AND DO SO IN A WAY THAT'S PROFESSIONAL. I THINK THAT'S THE LESSON THAT WE COULD PUT OUT HERE. WE OBVIOUSLY ALL COME DOWN ON THIS DIFFERENTLY. THE I WAS SITTING ON THIS DAIS FOR THE 2019 VOTE. I SENT THIS OUT TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO EMAILED ME STATING THAT I WAS ON THIS DAIS FOR THAT 2019 VOTE WHEN STUDENTS WERE GAMING THE SYSTEM BY ENTERING ACADEMIES AT SCHOOLS WHERE THEY KNEW THEY COULD TAKE THE TOP 10% AWAY FROM STUDENTS WHO WERE ZONED TO THAT SCHOOL. SO THE ISSUE WE HAD THEN WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE ISSUES WE FACE TODAY, AND WE HAD STUDENTS FOR WHOM THE TOP 6% AND TOP 10% RULES WERE CREATED WAS CREATED, WHO WERE NOT GETTING THOSE SPOTS. AND IT WAS BECAUSE STUDENTS FROM OTHER ZONES WERE COMING INTO ACADEMIES AND TAKING THOSE TOP 10% SPOTS. AND SO WE WERE FACED WITH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? AND WE ASKED WE WOULD WANTED TO RANK ALL ACADEMY STUDENTS AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS THE MOST FAIR THING TO DO. TI WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT. THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OTHER SOLUTION EXCEPT TO RANK THE STUDENTS WHERE THEY ATTEND, OR RANK THE STUDENTS WHERE THEY ARE ZONED.

THERE WAS MINOR DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSOLIDATING THE ACADEMIES INTO A BUILDING, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE BUILDING SPACE AT THAT TIME. IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS NOW VERY DIFFERENT TIMES. SO WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO CHANGE THE POLICY AT THAT TIME TO TRY TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT WE WERE FACING AT THAT TIME AFTER. AND I LIVED WITH IT WITH MY KIDS ON BOTH SIDES. I LIVED WITH THE OLD POLICY, AND I LIVED WITH THE NEW POLICY. MY DAUGHTER WAS KNOCKED OUT OF THE TOP 10% BECAUSE STUDENTS WHO WERE ZONED TO HER SCHOOL, BUT WHO ATTENDED AN ACADEMY KNOCKED HER OUT. SO WE LIVED WITH IT. SO I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND, I'VE EXPERIENCED IT ON BOTH SIDES AND NEITHER OPTION WAS GOOD. NEITHER OPTION IS GOOD. WHAT I DID THEN WAS TO TRY TO PROTECT THE STUDENTS FOR WHOM THE LAW WAS CREATED. I FELT LIKE IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT THEY WEREN'T GETTING INTO THESE COLLEGES BECAUSE THEIR SPOTS WERE BEING TAKEN. SO AFTER LIVING WITH IT, NOT JUST THE FRAUD THAT HAPPENED, BUT AS MR. HAMILTON JUST STATED, THAT AND AS WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CONSTITUENTS, HAVING STUDENTS GO AND SPEAK AS VALEDICTORIAN OR SALUTATORIAN FOR A CLASS OF STUDENTS, THEY DON'T KNOW AND NEVER ATTENDED SCHOOL WITH, I THINK IS BAD. I THINK IT'S NOT GOOD. AND I DID STATE WHEN I CAMPAIGNED BECAUSE I ASSUMED THAT WAS THAT JAB WAS DIRECTED AT ME, THAT I THOUGHT THE POLICY NEEDED TO CHANGE, THAT I LIVED WITH IT BOTH WAYS. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T. I THINK THE WAY IT IS NOW IS NOT GOOD. SO WHAT I DID WHEN I BECAME THE BOARD PRESIDENT WAS PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN JUNE OR JULY. AND I DON'T DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN WAS IT MISS MARTINEZ WAS ON THE JUNE 3RD REVIEW AGENDA AND THE JUNE 10TH? THAT WOULD BE THE VERY FIRST AGENDA I CREATED AS THE BOARD PRESIDENT. THE VERY FIRST ONE, AND I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, AND I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU'LL RECALL, TO PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS FOR US AND LET US KNOW. NEW SUPERINTENDENT, WHO IS BEING THROWN INTO A WORLD OF CHAOS, AS WE ALL KNOW, TO PLEASE

[04:40:02]

LET US KNOW HOW QUICKLY CAN HE AND THE ADMINISTRATION IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGE IF WE IF WE VOTE TO DO IT? AND HE AGREED TO DO THAT AND HE DID IT. BUT IN NO EVENT DO I BELIEVE WERE WE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND IMPLEMENT THIS, AND BASICALLY 30 DAYS, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THE POINT.

WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO VOTE ON IT IN JULY. AND STUDENTS, MY STUDENTS HAD MY DAUGHTER HAD ALREADY APPLIED TO COLLEGES BY THEN. SO THAT'S JUST UNTENABLE. I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND.

IT'S ILLOGICAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. THE TIME FRAME DOESN'T WORK, BUT THE BALL STARTED ROLLING IMMEDIATELY. I THINK MR. HAMILTON WILL TELL YOU THAT I CONTACTED HIM AND I ASKED HIM THE POLICY COMMITTEE. YOU GUYS, TO WORK ON IT, TO WORK ON AN UPDATE. LET'S GET A PROPOSAL AS SOON AS DOCTOR SMITH SAID, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS. THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE CAN DO. AND IT WENT ON THE AGENDA. SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE. FACTS MATTER. SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN VOTE TO CHANGE SOMETHING FOR THIS YEAR. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH MY DAUGHTER. I GUARANTEE YOU, TOP 10% MATTERS AND IF OR TOP 6%. I WENT THROUGH IT WITH ALL OF HER FRIENDS. I HAD A BUNCH OF SENIORS IN MY HOUSE LAST NIGHT, AND GUESS WHAT? I ASKED THEM ALL THE QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU APPLIED? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD? THEY THEY'VE ALREADY CONTACTED THE UNIVERSITIES AND THE UNIVERSITIES ARE TELLING THEM IF YOUR FINAL TRANSCRIPT DOES NOT MATCH, THEN YOU WILL NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTED. SO I HAD I DID MY RESEARCH. SIMILARLY, WE CONTACTED THE UNIVERSITIES. THEY'RE NOT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL DO IT BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE NOT TAKING 6% 6%. THEY'RE TAKING 7% OR 8%. AND THEY'RE JUST I MEAN, FOR US TO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IT JUST IS CONTRARY TO WHAT BIG UNIVERSITIES DO. SO THAT'S I AM IN FAVOR OF MAKING THIS CHANGE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. AND I AM IN FAVOR OF WAIVING THE FOUR CONSECUTIVE SEMESTER POLICY SO THAT STUDENTS WHO ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO TRANSFER BACK TO THEIR ZONED CAMPUS SUCH THAT THEY DON'T LOSE THEIR TOP 10% OR TOP 6% RANKING. I, I THINK THAT TO ME, THAT IS THE MOST FAIR THING TO DO IS TO PUT IT BACK IN 2026 AND THEN ALLOW THESE STUDENTS TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THEMSELVES. AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AGAIN, BECAUSE I ASKED THIS IN JUNE 3RD TO PLEASE GET WITH TIA AND HUDDLE AMONGST YOURSELVES AND FIND US A SOLUTION BECAUSE WE NEED A SOLUTION AND WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO DO IT THIS WAY. AND IT'S BECAUSE WE OFFER PROGRAMS OF CHOICE, AND MANY OF US CLAIM TO WANT CHOICE. AND I WANT CHOICE FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THESE PROGRAMS. BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR, FOR, FOR THIS ISSUE AND POTENTIALLY MANY OTHER OTHERS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION I ALREADY DID THAT ONE POINT. IT'S BEEN VOTED PRIVILEGE, VOTED ON THE QUESTION. THAT'S WHY I WAS OKAY.

WELL, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. I'M SORRY I MISSED THE WHOLE THING UP. SO PLEASE VOTE. POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. YOU RECOGNIZED TWO TRUSTEES TWICE WITHOUT RECOGNIZING ME. I WATCHED THIS THING GO TO THE FLOOR. IS YOURS NO LESS THAN TWICE. SO WILL YOU GUYS LET HIM SPEAK? WILL YOU WITHDRAW YOUR. WILL YOU DRAW YOUR MOTION? I WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION. AND WHOEVER SECONDED IS MY MOTION. BUT IT WAS. OH, WAS IT YOUR. I THOUGHT I CALLED THE. OH, YOU CALLED IT THE FIRST TIME. I CALLED IT THE SECOND TIME.

DIDN'T GET. I'M SORRY. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. OKAY. BUT CAN WE SECOND IT. YES. CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE THIS TO MR. SHOAF AND THEN YOU CAN. I'M ALWAYS QUICK. YES. OKAY, SO IT WAS. IT WAS NO SECRET ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I WAS VERY VOCAL ABOUT THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I PROMISED THAT I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR AS THE FIRST AND QUICKEST OPPORTUNITY, THAT IT

[04:45:02]

CAME IN FRONT OF ME. I DID LISTEN TO STUDENTS. GAGE PENA, DEVITA, AND ALONG WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER EMAILS, THERE IS A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE AT A TITLE ONE SCHOOL VERSUS AT A VERY HIGH RANKING SCHOOL. AND THE ISSUES THAT THAT THESE PEOPLE FACE, THESE STUDENTS FACE ARE A LOT MORE SIGNIFICANT. AND IT IS UTMOST DISTURBING THAT KIDS FROM LOWER ECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND IN A HARDER SCHOOLS GET BOOTED OFF OF RANKING TO STUDENTS THAT HAVE NEVER EVEN HAD TO SET FOOT ON CAMPUS. ON A SCHOOL. THAT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT THAN WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TONIGHT GREW UP. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS MY POINT. IT WAS A PROMISE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I SAY WHAT I MEAN AND I DO WHAT I SAY. SO I AM VOTING FOR THIS TONIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. SHOAF AND I APOLOGIZE. SO I CLEARED THE QUEUE WHENEVER THE WHENEVER THE LAST QUESTION CAME UP. BUT YOU WERE LAST. BUT I CLEARED IT, SO I APOLOGIZE. NO, IT WASN'T COMING UP, BUT THEY HAVE NOT VOTED ON MY AMENDMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE 2025. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION FAILS FOUR THREE. SO THE UNDERLYING MOTION WAS THE MOTION THAT MR. GARCIA PRESENTED WAS THE 2026 IMPLEMENTATION. WITH THE CHANGES IN POLICY THAT WERE READ. SO PLEASE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE TWO. OKAY, NEXT UP ON ACTION IS ITEM NINE

[9.G. Agreement for Use of Stafford Municipal Pool: Consideration and approval for an Interlocal Agreement for the use of the Stafford Municipal Pool.]

G, WHICH IS THE AGREEMENT FOR USE OF STAFFORD MUNICIPAL POOL. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NINE G AGREEMENT FOR USE OF STAFFORD MUNICIPAL POOL AS PRESENTED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNAN. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYONE HAVE

[10. Consent Agenda]

ANYTHING TO REMOVE FROM THE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I AM PULLIN. TEN A NO. SORRY, TEN F, WHICH IS THE TAX AUDITS FOR CURRICULUM AND LITERACY BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT IN FOR THAT. SO WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE NOVEMBER AGENDA. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PULL OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THE BOARD, APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS SECOND. OH, I GUESS THE CONSENT AGENDA IN ITS ENTIRETY AS PRESENTED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MR. HAMILTON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? IT WOULD NEED TO EXCLUDE THE ITEM THAT YOU PULLED. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN. WE'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH ROBERT'S RULES TODAY. GO AHEAD. I MOVED TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM EXCLUDING ITEM F AS PRESENTED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE WILL NOW CONVENE

[11. Convene in closed session under Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551 under the following sections: 551.071 - For the purpose of a private consultation with the Board's attorney on any or all subjects or matters authorized by law; Section 551.072 - Consider purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property, Section 551.074 - Personnel matters, Section 551.076 - Security matters, Section 551.082 - Student discipline matter or complaint, or Section 551.0821 - Personally identifiable information about public school student A. Deliberate assigning FNG parent grievance of Yen L. to the Board hearing officer, or to schedule a future Board meeting to hear and consider the grievance. B. Consider offer of settlement in the matter of Long-Walker v. Fort Bend ISD in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, Houston Division.]

IN CLOSED SESSION. LET ME GET TO IT. UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTERS FIVE, FIVE, ONE, AND THOSE SECTIONS LISTED IN THE AGENDA AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH THE BOARD'S ATTORNEY ON ANY OR ALL SUBJECTS OR MATTERS AUTHORIZED

[04:50:01]

BY LAW. WE ARE THE TIME IS 11:45 P.M. AND WE ARE RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION.

[12. Reconvene in Open Session]

[13. Consider Action on Closed Session Items]

WE WILL NOW CONSIDER ACTION ON CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. MR. GARCIA, I MOVE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, ASSIGN THE LEVEL THREE F AND G PARENT COMPLAINT OF YIN EL TO THE BOARD'S DESIGNATED HEARING OFFICER UNDER BOARD POLICY F AND G LOCAL. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GARCIA AND A SECOND BY MISS HANNON. DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Oct 21, 2024 Board Meeting

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