Sep 05, 2024 Special Called Meeting

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IS ABLE TO HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU. SERGEANT. THE TIME IS 6:03 P.M. AND THIS MEETING IS

[1. Call to order]

[2. Public Comment]

THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS WORKSHOP, MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT I SIT ON THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND AS SUCH, I HAD SOME SORT OF GLARING QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT ARE KIND OF FLOATING AROUND MY MIND, AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THEM AT YOU SO THAT BEFORE YOU GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, IF IN FACT, IT COMES UP, YOU CAN MAYBE HASH SOME OF THAT OUT, SO THE FIRST THING IS THAT, THE NATATORIUM WAS IN FACT ALWAYS CALLED THE NATATORIUM FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE SESSIONS. IT WAS ALWAYS A NATATORIUM. IT WAS NEVER REFERRED TO AS ANYTHING BUT A NATATORIUM. I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING LOOKED INTO, AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO STRESS THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WHOEVER IS DOING THE INVESTIGATION REACHES OUT TO ALL BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE TO JUST TALK TO ALL OF US. SO THAT'S ONE. TWO, I THINK THAT THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ITSELF AND WHAT PURPOSE WE SERVE. AND HOW WE CAN SERVE BETTER, SERVE THE BOARD AND BETTER SERVE THE DISTRICT. AND THREE, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING OPTIONS ON HOW TO CLOSE THIS GAP. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT AS A BOCC MEMBER WHO'S DEVOTED A LOT OF TIME TO GOING TO MEETINGS AND HEARING ALL OF THE HISTORY AND KNOWING ALL OF THE HISTORY, I HAVE BINDERS AND BINDERS OF STUFF, IT'S REALLY UPSETTING THAT WE WERE IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE ALL SHARE THAT SENTIMENT, I AM HOPEFUL THAT THERE WILL BE SOME WAY TO FIND AN OPTION THAT WON'T HURT ANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I'M HOPEFUL THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY STARTED WILL CONTINUE. I'M HOPEFUL THAT ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PROMISED CAN BE DELIVERED ON IF, IN FACT, THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND I JUST I HOPE THAT WHEN IT'S DECIDED, THERE WILL BE VERY DEEP AND MEANINGFUL AND INCLUSIVE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITIES IMPACTED SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A VOICE IN IT SOMEHOW. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. HI, BROWN. STEPHANIE BROWN. HELLO, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK WITHOUT SIGNING UP BECAUSE I FORGOT TO DO IT BY 430. SO ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, BEING A PART OF THE BOND COMMITTEE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON REGARDING THE POOL. I'M CALLING IT THE POOL. THE NATATORIUM, AND I JUST WANTED TO IT TO BE KNOWN BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE CONTACTED SINCE I WAS ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. THE NATATORIUM WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BOND INITIALLY, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THERE. THERE WAS A SURVEY DONE SENT OUT TO ABOUT 200 AND SOMETHING. WHAT THEY SAID VOTERS TO GO OUT TO SAY WHETHER THEY WANTED IT BACK ON THE BOND OR NOT. SO THOSE PEOPLE CAME BACK UNANIMOUSLY. I DIDN'T GET A SURVEY, AND I VOTE AT EVERY ELECTION. SO I'M GUESSING IT WAS SELECTIVE. AND IT CAME BACK TO SAY, YES, THESE PEOPLE WANT THE

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[5.A. Bond Workshop]

WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET STATUS, AND THEN WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH OPTIONS TO CONSIDER FOR REDUCING THE DEFICIT. AND THEN I'VE WORKED WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. OBVIOUSLY NOT TONIGHT, BUT AT A FUTURE MEETING, WHENEVER THE BOARD DEEMS APPROPRIATE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION IN THE RECOMMENDATION. OF COURSE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY WANT TO CONSIDER. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THAT FEEDBACK. TONIGHT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE MOVING FORWARD. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT. AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AND TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK, BRIAN, GWEN AND KATHLEEN BROWN ARE GOING TO BE THE LEAD PRESENTERS, THIS EVENING. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER SUPPORT STAFF THAT PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE PROCESS. THAT WILL ALSO BE PREPARED TO PROVIDE INSIGHT, ANSWER QUESTIONS AS NEEDED. SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS KATHLEEN BROWN. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR SMITH, IT'S OUR PLEASURE THIS EVENING TO HAVE THIS WORKSHOP IN REFERENCE TO THE BOND TO BOND THE BOND PROGRAM 2023, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THAT AS WE PARTICIPATE AND ENGAGE IN THE

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OKAY, NOT MANY, MONTHS AFTER THAT. A LOT HAPPENS DURING THAT TIME OF THE YEAR. THERE WAS, I'M SURE, THANKSGIVING BREAK. AND THEN THE WINTER BREAK, AND THEN THEREAFTER, DOCTOR SMITH, JOINED FORT BEND ISD AS THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT, AND AT THAT JANUARY MEETING, THAT IS WHEN THE BOND DEFICIT MAY NOT I'M GOING TO SAY INITIALLY WAS IDENTIFIED. THAT'S WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED, TO YOU AS A BOARD. OKAY. IN FEBRUARY, AFTER DOCTOR SMITH ARRIVED, THERE WAS SOME WORK BEING DONE, TO LOOK AT. OKAY. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? HOW MUCH OF A DEFICIT DO WE HAVE, AND AT THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION, THAT IDENTIFIED THAT AT THAT TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT $163.2 MILLION, AS IT RELATES TO A BOND DEFICIT, IN FEBRUARY, DUE TO THAT INFORMATION, THAT'S WHEN THE BOND BUDGET INVESTIGATION WAS LAUNCHED, AND IN APRIL, THERE WAS A BOARD PRESENTATION, THAT REVEALED THE FINDINGS OF THAT BOND INVESTIGATION. OKAY AND THEN IN MAY, I JOINED THE DISTRICT AS THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT OF OPERATIONS, AND SINCE THAT TIME IN JUNE, WE HAVE WE HAVE LAUNCHED A BOND AUDIT, AND WE'VE ALSO, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER THIS EVENING, LAUNCHED A BOND NATATORIUM INVESTIGATION FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. OKAY. SO THAT JUST GIVES US A TIMELINE. YOU'LL HEAR ME THIS EVENING, AND MR. GWEN REFER BACK TO SEVERAL THINGS ON THIS TIMELINE. BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, IT HELPS TO PAINT THE PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE ARE

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IT'S GIVING YOU THE PHASE 11A AND THE PHASE ONE B FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IF WE GO DOWN AND WE LOOK AT THIS HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S LISTED HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, HIGHTOWER HIGH SCHOOL. WE SEE WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE. IS THAT IN THIS PACKAGE WE WERE GOING TO RENOVATE AND RECONFIGURE THE EXISTING AUDITORIUM AND SUPPORT SPACES, AND WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT IN PHASE ONE, THE NEXT HIGHLIGHTED SECTION SAYS THAT WE WERE GOING TO RENOVATE AND RENOVATE AND RECONFIGURE THE EXISTING FINE ARTS SUITE, AND WE WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT A FINE ARTS BUILDING AND ADDITION. AND THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN PHASE ONE. B SO THE ONE PAGER, AS I REFER TO, THE ONE PAGER, THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY WOULD SEE. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ONE PAGER AND WHAT WE SAID TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU WOULD SEE UNDER FINE ARTS THAT

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OKAY, SO I'LL PAUSE FOR JUST A MOMENT. WITH THAT INFORMATION, TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION CONCERN BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE CURRENT STATE OF PROJECTS. OKAY. MR. HAMILTON. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. SO, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THE SO THERE'S THE INFLATION FACTOR AND THERE'S ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION COST FACTOR, SO I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT EVERYBODY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND. SO, THE INFLATION NUMBER THAT'S KIND OF REPORTED IS THE AVERAGE. AND SO YOU MAY HAVE THE PRICE. SO LIKE YOU SEE THE 9% FOR ONE OF THOSE YEARS, THE COST OF EGGS MAY HAVE GONE UP 20%, BUT THE COST OF SOMETHING ELSE ONLY WENT UP 5%. AND SO I KNOW FROM WHAT I WAS DOING, I WAS DOING COMMERCIAL INSURANCE AT THE TIME. AND SO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FROM IN 2021 AND 2022, FOR MANY DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST, WERE, WERE MUCH HIGHER THAN 9%, AND SO YOU HAVE THE INFLATION FACTOR, WHICH DRIVES UP THE COST OF EVERYTHING. BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WERE, ALSO SKYROCKETING.

ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. HAMILTON. MISS HANNON. YES. AND I'M SORRY, YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT OR IT MAY HAVE BEEN UP THERE, BUT I WAS LOOKING HERE. YES. AND SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE THAT WE CAN'T GET INTO DETAILS, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOWING ME THE DIFFERENCE AND SO ON HIGH TOWER THEY BUDGETED 5.68 MILLION, AND THEN WHAT'S, WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE NEEDED BUDGETED FOR THE WHOLE WHAT WE TOLD THE COMMUNITY WE WERE DOING. YES. A WHOLE NEW FINE ARTS BUILDING. YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF YOU OR YOU CAN SPEAK IN THE MIC. THERE WE GO. I'LL LET MR. BANK REFER FOR THE HIGH TOWER PROJECT. THAT AMOUNT WOULD HAVE BEEN 11.6 MILLION. THE TOTAL RIGHT RIGHT TO THE TOTAL NEEDED. OKAY SO ANOTHER FIVE, RIGHT AT 6 MILLION. ANOTHER 6 MILLION. AND THEN THE SAME WITH THE ELKINS THAT JUST DIDN'T GET ON THE BUDGET AT ALL FOR THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE AUDITORIUM, OR RENOVATION.

HOWEVER, THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE NEEDED FOR THAT. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3.5 AND 4 MILLION IS WHAT WE ESTIMATED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT THAT THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. OKAY. MR. YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? SORRY. SO LAST TIME WASN'T REALLY A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION THIS TIME, SO THE CONSOLIDATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DISTRICT WAS KIND OF A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE BRIARGATE BLUE RIDGE, DID WE DO THE SAME THING WITH NOT INCREASING THE WIDTH? BEN? GLENN. YES. YES, SIR, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE THERE WAS NO ESTIMATE FOR, FOR THAT CAMPUS AT ALL FOR IN 2021 FOR MISSION BEND, THOSE CAMPUSES WERE WAS A DECISION MADE AT THE SAME TIME TO CONSOLIDATE BOTH OF THOSE CAMPUSES THE SAME WAS TRUE. IT WAS PROJECTED FOR 100,000FT■!S. WE NEEDED TO BUILD THAT BUILDING AT 132,000FT■!S. D SO THE AMOUNT OF THE DEFICIT IS DOUBLED, AND WHEN YOU PUT BOTH OF THOSE CAMPUSES TOGETHER. YES, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'LL TRANSITION TO LOOKING AT THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR PROJECTS, AND SO EACH MONTH WE PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE, AND WORK IS CONTINUING TO HAPPEN. AND SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE 12 OF OUR PROJECTS. WELL, LET ME

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AND WE STILL HAVE 17 OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ESTIMATES ON. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE WILL WILL SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON WHEN WE CAN ANTICIPATE HAVING ESTIMATES ON THAT ON THOSE PROJECTS. SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, THIS SLIDE, IT HAS THE 17 PROJECTS, IN HERE IN THIS GANTT CHART, AND IT IS LISTED OUT, AND YOU CAN SEE WE'VE PUT A COLORED BLOCK TO SHOW YOU WHEN WE ANTICIPATE HAVING ESTIMATES. FOR THOSE THAT ARE STILL PENDING, THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHEN WE WILL BE BRINGING INFORMATION. RELATED TO THOSE. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT LIST AND KNOW BY PROJECT, BY WHICH BID PACKAGE, THAT WE ARE STILL PENDING ESTIMATES. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. GWYNN. OKAY. THANK YOU, MRS. BROWN. GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND DOCTOR SMITH. OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES, I'LL UPDATE YOU ON THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR BUDGET FOR THE 23 BOND AND THE DATA THAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU IS AS OF. DO YOU MIND PULLING THAT YET? THANK YOU. IS AS OF AUGUST 31ST. SO THIS IS A FAIRLY UP TO DATE INFORMATION. OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR THE BOND. IS $1,256,435,523. THAT NUMBER IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THEWN JUSTH YOU. AND THAT DIFFERENCE OF $235,523 IS A RESULT OF INTEREST EARNINGS THAT WE'VE HAD ON BOND PROCEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED. AND SO WHEN THE DISTRICT RECEIVES THE INTEREST EARNINGS, THOSE ARE PLACED INTO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY AND CAN BE ALLOCATED BY THE BOARD THROUGH BUDGET AMENDMENTS. AND SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU SEE THERE. THERE'S $204,616,244. THAT IS ENCUMBERED CURRENTLY. THIS IS FOR CONTRACTS THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET MADE THE EXPENDITURES. AND SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR INVOICES TO COME IN ON THOSE OR FOR THE WORK TO ACTUALLY BE DONE. OUR ACTUAL EXPENDITURES ON CONTRACTS IS AND THESE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD. TOTALS $76,826,265. AND THAT LEAVES US A BALANCE OF $974,993,013. AND SO THIS IS WHAT'S REMAINING TO BE EXPENDED ON THE 2023 BOND. WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS ADDRESSING THE INITIAL BOND SHORTFALL. IN FEBRUARY, WE SHARED THAT THE TOTAL DEFICIT WAS RIGHT AT $163 MILLION. AND SINCE THAT TIME, ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE DEFICIT CURRENTLY STANDS AT $64.8 MILLION. AND THAT'S A DECREASE OF $5.6 MILLION FROM THE NUMBER THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU ALL IN AUGUST. AND SO IN A FEW SLIDES, I'LL SHARE SOME OF THAT. THE PROCESSES THAT WE'VE USED FOR BRINGING THAT NUMBER DOWN. BUT I DO WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A FURTHER BREAKDOWN OF THE DEFICIT BY EACH PROPOSITION. AND SO WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF $33.7 MILLION FOR MAJOR PROJECTS AND A $23.1 MILLION SHORTFALL FOR RENOVATION PROJECTS WITHIN PROPOSITION A, WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT EXPERIENCING ANY SHORTFALLS WITHIN THE TECHNOLOGIES AND SAFETY AND SECURITY PORTION OF THE BOND. THAT'S WITHIN PROPOSITION A, AND THAT ALSO EXTENDS TO PROPOSITION B, WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ANTICIPATED SHORTFALLS WITHIN THAT PROPOSITION. AND PROPOSITION C, THE NATATORIUM HAS AN EXPECTED SHORTFALL OF $6 MILLION. AND I WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS SHORTFALL IS BASED ON A DESIGN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT HODGES BEND. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY. SO ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS PROJECT WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN HIGHER COSTS BEYOND THE $6 MILLION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SHARING WITH YOU. SO THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT THIS IS BASED ON AN AQUATIC PRACTICE FACILITY, NOT AN AUDITORIUM LIKE WE HAVE AT DON COOK. WE HAVE FOCUSED THE MAJORITY OF OUR ATTENTION ON THE CURRENT SHORTFALL. AND SO THAT SOMETIMES TAKES AWAY FROM THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. AND SO SINCE WE STARTED OUT WITH THAT $163 MILLION DEFICIT IN FEBRUARY, THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $98.4 MILLION. AND WE'VE DONE THAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

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AND SO THERE IS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THE BOARD CAN CHOOSE TO USE THIS FUNDING COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE IN 2023. BOND. AND SO I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, BECAUSE WE CAN USE THESE FUNDS TO HELP US OFFSET A PORTION OF THE SHORTAGE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE 23 BOND. THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN AWARDED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE GRANT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS, FOR $500,000 AT MISSION BEND. GLENN ELEMENTARY. AND SO THE DEPARTMENT OF OUR HUD HAS NOTIFIED US THAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT GRANT. IT HAS BEEN AWARDED. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT PAPERWORK, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADJUST THOSE COSTS AWAY FROM THE BOND. BUT ONCE THAT OCCURS, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PLACE $500,000 WITHIN TWO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY FOR FUTURE APPROPRIATION. AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO THREE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT DETERMINED YET THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP OFFSET COSTS WITHIN THE BOND THAT IS LOOKING AT LAND SALES. WE ALSO HAVE A EXCESS FUND BALANCE WITHIN THE CHILD NUTRITION FUND. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A TIA SAFETY GRANT THAT THE DISTRICT RECEIVED THAT WE EXPECT TO FULLY MEET ALL THE INITIAL REQUIREMENTS. AND ONCE THOSE ARE MET, WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO HELP WITH SOME ITEMS WITHIN THE GRANT, SUCH AS POLICE EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS CAMERAS, SECURITY CAMERAS WITHIN THE BOND. AND SO BECAUSE OF WE HAVEN'T FULLY DETERMINED WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THOSE FINAL FUNDS WILL BE. WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON THAT YET, BUT WE EXPECT TO HAVE SOME FUNDING AVAILABILITY THERE. AND THE BOARD WILL SEE, I BELIEVE, AT THE UPCOMING MEETING ON MONDAY IN CLOSED SESSION, A DISCUSSION ON LAND SALES. AND SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING IMMEDIATE THAT WE CAN BEGIN LOOKING TOWARDS. BUT AGAIN, UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SELL THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS. AND AS IT STANDS TODAY, WITH NO CHANGES AT ALL TO THE BOND, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE DEFICIT WOULD PROBABLY END UP AT ABOUT 70 TO 80 MILLION. AND SO AGAIN, WE STAND AT $64.8 MILLION TODAY BASED ON THAT, 30% OF PROJECTS THAT STILL NEED TO BE FULLY COSTED OUT, WE EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY ADD AN ADDITIONAL $15.2 MILLION INCREASE TO WHERE WE STAND TODAY. SO AS WE PROCEED, OUR ESTIMATES WILL BE CONFIRMED THROUGH CAREFUL ANALYSIS. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'LL BE CONFIRMING THAT WE'LL BE GETTING INFORMATION FROM OUR CONTRACTORS, OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS OUR VENDORS. AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, INDEPENDENT ESTIMATORS AND CONSULTANTS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE ESTIMATES AVAILABLE AS WE CONTINUE TO EXECUTE THE BOND. AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE RECEIVE REGULAR INDUSTRY REPORTS. WE RECEIVE INFORMATION THROUGH TRADE ASSOCIATIONS AND THOSE OTHER PUBLICATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THAT ALLOW US TO HELP US FURTHER REFINE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU ALL. AND SO WE'RE I'LL END UP AS THAT. BASICALLY, WE HAVE $16.4 MILLION AVAILABLE IN CONTINGENCY THAT WE CAN USE TO OFFSET A PORTION OF THE DEFICIT THAT NUMBER IS NOT FACTORED INTO THAT 70 TO $80 MILLION. AND SO IT IS AVAILABLE TO BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN. THAT IS MADE UP OF THE 2014 AND 18 BOND NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY AS WELL AS THE $1.4 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE 23 BOND. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S MAINLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONFINED, OR ALL OF IT WILL HAVE

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OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WE CAN. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. SORRY TO DOUBLE UP AGAIN. SO, SO I KNOW WE CAN'T SPEAK TO SPECIFIC PROPERTIES AND THEIR VALUE, BUT, I REQUESTED AROUND THIS TIME LAST YEAR, MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, ESTIMATES OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT CURRENT WAS AT THAT TIME, WAS NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE PLAN GOING FORWARD TO BE UTILIZED, AND FROM THAT ESTIMATE OF THE DIFFERENT THOSE PROPERTIES THAT I RECEIVED, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OUT OF THE DEFICIT, AND SO I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS, ADMINISTRATION IN DECEMBER STRONGLY WANTED US TO PUT AN ITEM TO ALLOW THE ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TRYING TO SELL PROPERTY. AND I THINK WE ENDED UP DOING THAT IN JANUARY. AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS, EFFORTS TO SELL THOSE PROPERTIES? NOT NOT THE ESTIMATES, BUT THE EFFORTS TO SELL, I THINK. YES, SIR. SO ACTUALLY ON ON MONDAY AT THE BOARD MEETING IN CLOSED SESSION, WE DO HAVE A LAND SALE DISCUSSION. OKAY AND I HAD ONE OTHER THOUGHT. SCARY. THAT HAS DISAPPEARED. SO MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK TO ME. THANK YOU, OKAY, SO THE LAST COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE AND THIS THIS GOES BACK TO, TO MISS HANNON'S. COMMENT IS THAT I'M ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS SORT OF A MATH BRAIN PERSON, YOU KNOW, I AUTOMATICALLY WANT TO DO THE MATH AND SAY 70 TO 80 MILLION. MY -16.4 PUTS US DOWN TO ROUGHLY 60 MILLION. BUT THEN WE HAVE ZERO CONTINGENCY DOLLARS. AND IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH OUR PROJECTS ONGOING, THEN WE'RE OUT OF MONEY. AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT? SO I HAVE THE SAME AND I SEE NODS GOING AROUND.

YEAH, THAT WE JUST. YEAH. SO THIS IS GREAT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A SOLUTION. RIGHT. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THERE. YES. SO I JUST SET YOU UP. SO YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, SO THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LEFT, TO, TO COVER THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK NEXT AT EXPLORING SOME OPTIONS FOR REDUCING THE DEFICIT, AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO OUTLINE THE NEXT STEPS, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES RELATED TO THE EDUCATIONAL AND FURNITURE, STANDARDS AND CONTEXT TO THE BOND PROGRAM AS WELL. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WAS COMING UP. OKAY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OPTIONS TO REDUCING THE DEFICIT AND REMEMBER WHEN WE SPEAK OF THE DEFICIT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT DOES INCLUDE THE NATATORIUM AS IT RELATES TO THE APPROVED BUDGET. RIGHT,

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OKAY THE NEXT OPTION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, IS ALIGNING THE TURF AND ATHLETICS PROJECTS WITH THE APPROVED BUDGET AND THE TURF ATHLETICS, PROJECTS, THOSE ARE BID PACKAGES TEN AND 12, THAT I'M REFERRING TO HERE, AND WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THOSE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE FOUR ITEMS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEFICIT, THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, ONE OF THOSE TALKED ABOUT US USING 2021 ESTIMATES WITH THIS PROJECT. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE FULL PROJECT ESTIMATE, IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE APPROVED BUDGET. SO, IF WE WERE TO AND IT IS LOOKED AT IN THE DEFICIT, WE DO HAVE THIS AS A PART OF THE DEFICIT. WE HAD TO ADD ANOTHER $23.2 MILLION TO THE DEFICIT IN ORDER TO, TO, ACT ON WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO OUR PUBLIC. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT PACKAGE, WE COULD LOOK AT ALIGNING THE TURF AND ATHLETICS PACKAGE WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED. SO THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED IN JUNE OF 2023, WAS AROUND $23 MILLION.

AND SO WE COULD LOOK AT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE COULD DO THAT ALIGNS WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED. SO THAT WOULD MEAN WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE COULD DO WITHIN THE APPROVED BUDGET. AND THAT WOULD BE TO THE TUNE OF $23.2 MILLION, IT WOULD DECREASE THE DEFICIT BY THAT AMOUNT, BUT WE ALSO WOULD NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS AGAINST THE AVAILABLE BUDGET. AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A SILO. IT HAPPENS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN ATHLETICS, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. OTHER LEADERS IN THE DISTRICT, OUR COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK THROUGH. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, AND HOW DO WE MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR OF OUR LEARNERS, OF OUR ATHLETES, WITHIN THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE? THE THIRD OPTION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, AND WE LOOKED AT THIS ONE UNDER THE PINK TAB WHEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE TWO CAMPUSES, AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WITH WHAT WE COMMUNICATED VERSUS WHAT WAS IN THE APPROVED BUDGET, WE CAN LOOK AT ALIGNING THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS WITH THE BUDGET AS WELL. WE'VE ADDED TO THE DEFICIT THE $6 MILLION, THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO WHAT WE'VE COMMUNICATED, IT WAS NOT A PART OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVED BUDGET, AND SO IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE DEFICIT IF WE CHOSE TO ALIGN WITH THE BUDGET THAT HAD BEEN HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND THAT SAME NEED WOULD BE THERE, WE'D NEED TO ALIGN AND PRIORITIZE AS IT RELATES TO, TO THIS BID PACKAGE TO ALIGN WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED. AND THAT WOULD BE $6 MILLION. THE FOURTH OPTION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IS DEFERRING THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, WE KNOW THAT THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR BID PACKAGES, WHY THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT WAY THAT WE HAVE AT OUR CURRENT ARRANGEMENT, IT'S FUNCTIONAL, IT'S NOT OPTIMAL, BUT IT IS FUNCTIONAL, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE $19.2 MILLION IN REAL LIFE SAVINGS, THIS ONE IS, IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS ONE THAT WAS A PART OF THE APPROVED BUDGET, BUT WE THE CON TO THIS IS WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS BY NOT HAVING

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AND A PART OF THIS PACKAGE DOES INCLUDE THAT, AND SO THIS WOULD BE TO THE TUNE OF $19.2 MILLION IF WE WERE TO DEFER THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO DO IT. IF WE PUSH THAT TO THE FUTURE. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR OPTIONS FOR OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. SO WE KNOW TO SUMMARIZE THOSE OPTIONS, WE KNOW THAT AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE A CURRENT NEED OF $64.8 MILLION WITH AN ANTICIPATED NEED OF 70 TO $80 MILLION. WITH THOSE ESTIMATES THAT WE STILL HAVE THAT ARE PENDING, AND THOSE AMOUNTS THERE, THOSE THINGS TOTAL. IF WE LOOKED AT DEFERRING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 55, THAT'S A $47.5 MILLION, REDUCTION. IF WE LOOKED AT A LINE IN THE TURF AND ATHLETICS PACKAGE, WE'RE NOT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY MORE THAN WHAT THE APPROVED BUDGET IS. THAT WOULD BE $23.2 MILLION IF WE DID THE SAME AND ALIGN THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT OUR BOARD APPROVED IN JUNE, THAT WOULD BE $6 MILLION. AND IF WE DEFERRED THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, THAT WOULD BE $19.1 MILLION. SO IN TOTAL, THAT WOULD BE $95.9 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT EXCEEDS THE 70 TO $80 MILLION OF ANTICIPATED NEED THAT WE HAVE. AND AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE THAT 16.4 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE IN OUR 2014, 2018 AND OUR 2023 CONTINGENCY, AND SO WE KNOW WE PROBABLY SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD IN SAYING THAT.

AND I'VE HEARD YOU ALL SAY IT IS THAT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CONTINGENCY, WE ARE CONSIDERING ALL OF THE OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. I GO BACK TO THE TIMELINE TO 2018, AND THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS THAT $600 MILLION OF LIFE CYCLE DEFICIENCIES. AND SO WHEN THINGS BREAK AT A CAMPUS, WHEN WE GET UP IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S NO AIR BECAUSE THE CHILLER HAS GONE OUT AND WE WERE TRYING TO RESPOND QUICKLY IN THE EVENT THAT THAT $16.4 MILLION IS NOT AVAILABLE TO US, WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. SO, IF WE I'M SORRY IF WE LOOK AT OUR RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION AS AN ADMINISTRATION CURRENTLY BEING IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO EXECUTE WITH EXCELLENCE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW. RIGHT.

SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND AS OF TODAY IS THAT WE DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. RIGHT, WE THINK IT WOULD BE A RESPONSIBLE CHOICE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT, TO DEFER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. WE HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US ON HOW WE CAN MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR LEARNERS BY DOING THAT, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR OUR ATHLETICS AND TURF AND OUR FINE ARTS ADDITIONS THAT WE ALIGN WHAT WE DO WITHIN THAT BUDGET, AND TRY TO MAXIMIZE AND PRIORITIZE WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THAT WE ALSO DEFER THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY SINCE IT'S FUNCTIONAL. BUT NOT OPTIMAL, AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT DEFICIT, AT $95.9 MILLION. WHAT THAT DOES IS, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO EXECUTE ON THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN, WE MAY HAVE BE ABLE TO COME BACK AT A LATER TIME, AND TO CONSIDER OTHER, OTHER FACTORS. SO I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. QUINN, OR I'LL STOP AND PAUSE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST BEFORE I GO ON. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YES, MR. HAMILTON? YES, I THINK THE ELEMENTARY 55 SHOULD SHOULD HAVE BEEN NORTHWEST PART OF THE DISTRICT. NORTHWEST I APOLOGIZE, I'M STILL FINDING MY WAY AROUND THEM. YEAH NO, NO WORRIES. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S THE ONE IN THE IN THE HARVEST GREEN NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND THEN DO WE, DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ANY CNG BUSSES OR WAS THAT. WE DO DO WE HAVE SEEN IT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE CNG BUSSES. MR. FUELING STATIONS. SO WE'RE OUTSOURCING THE FUELING. I GUESS OBVIOUSLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE DO HAVE CNG BUSSES. WE HAVE A LESS THAN OPTIMAL FUEL, SOLUTION RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, A UNIT WHERE WE GET A TRUCK EVERY DAY, THE TRUCK FILLS UP OUR TANK AND THEN THE TANK ATTACHES TO OUR BUSSES. AND WHEN THE TANK AND OUR BUSSES, EQUALIZE, THAT'S WHEN IT STOPS PUMPING. SO OUR BUSSES LEAVE ON HALF FULL OR THREE QUARTERS FULL EVERY DAY. SO WITH A FUELING STATION, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TOP OFF OUR CNG BUSSES AND JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A THAT'S GREAT PROGRESS. SO THAT'S, THAT THAT GETS US CLOSE TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. WOULD YOU WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK A SLIDE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY SO I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I

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BECAUSE IF THE 70 TO 80 MILLION, THOSE ARE JUST LIKE LIKE OKAY, SO THE 70, 80 MILLION IS COVERING THE TURF AND THE TURF AND ATHLETICS AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THE 23 MILLION THAT DOES THAT DOES IS THE 23.2 MILLION IN THAT 70 TO $80 MILLION DEFICIT. YES MA'AM. IT IS. AND SO LET ME I THINK I HAVE A SECTION I DON'T KNOW IF I WALK THROUGH THAT. EXACTLY. SO BECAUSE I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE COME UP WITH MORE, MORE MONEY THAN WE HAVE IN DEFICIT. THAT'S AND SO I IF THEY'RE ALREADY ALL INCLUDED IN THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE A $95.6 MILLION DEFICIT RATHER THAN A 70 TO 80 MILLION. AND I'M AND I APOLOGIZE THE REST OF THE BOARD IF I'M NOT WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THE MATH HERE, I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT. AND I HAVE A SLIDE THAT WILL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME EXPLANATION OF HOW WE GET TO THAT NUMBER. BUT WHAT I'LL START WITH IS, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE DEFICIT IS $64.8 MILLION. WE EXPECT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY FIND AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION IN ITEMS LIKE WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, FINE ARTS ADDITIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ON A SHEET BUT NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED WITHIN THE BUDGET. AND SO THERE IS A FACTOR BUILT IN FOR THAT. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE $64.8 MILLION IS. WE CAN SPECIFY THAT INCLUDED IN THAT $64.8 MILLION IS THE $23 MILLION FOR TURF AND ATHLETICS, AND THE $6 MILLION FOR THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. AND I, I HOPE I'LL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT ON THE SLIDES THAT I HAVE. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEFERRING AND THESE ITEMS WHERE WE WERE WE BUDGETED A CERTAIN NUMBER, BUT WE'RE SAYING THE COST IS BASICALLY EXCEEDING WHAT THAT BUDGET NUMBER IS. AND SO IT DOESN'T GIVE US SAVINGS THAT WE CAN USE. IT JUST BUYS DOWN THE DEFICIT, WHEREAS THE TWO DEFERRALS ACTUALLY WILL GIVE US MONEY. AND LET ME WALK THROUGH THE SLIDES AND I HOPE IT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IF NOT, WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO IT. OKAY. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WILL GO THROUGH THAT. SO I WANT TO TALK NOW ABOUT THE IMPACT QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MR. GARCIA GETS HIS QUESTION IN BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. THANK YOU SIR, SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 55, DID WE CONSIDER REACHING OUT TO OTHER ARCHITECTS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT DESIGNS OR DIFFERENT CONCEPTS ON SCHOOLS, FOR DESIGNS THAT MAY BE CHEAPER? I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL IS ESTIMATED AT 47, BUT YOU KNOW, BY DEFERRING THE SCHOOL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT DEFERRING IT FOR FIVE SIX YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. WHAT ARE THE COSTS OF THE SCHOOL GOING TO BE IN 5 OR 6 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND THEN WHAT IS I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS OR PROJECTIONS LOOK LIKE 4 OR 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. THE SCHOOLS ARE SOME SCHOOLS ON THAT SIDE O, ATTENDANCE OR ENROLLMENT HAS GONE DOWN. THERE'S A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS THAT'S GOING UP. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, BY DEFERRING 4 OR 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, HOW DOES THAT LOOK FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE THAT ATTENDANCE IS ALREADY, KIND OF BUSTING AT THE SEAMS IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS. SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS BY DEFERRING WE CAN SHUFFLE SOME, SOME STUDENTS, BUT THEN IF IT'S A TEMPORARY FIX, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TEMPORARY BECAUSE YOU WON'T START UNTIL FIVE YEARS AND THEN IT WON'T BE DONE FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. AND THEN WHEN I'M THINKING REZONING, I'M THINKING IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE A SMALL REZONE. IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT BROADER, A LOT WIDER. SO IT'LL IT WILL AFFECT A LOT MORE, PEOPLE AND STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M THINKING, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, SIR, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 55 IS STILL IN THE PRE-DESIGN STAGE, THE BOARD APPROVED AN ARCHITECT SELECTION FOR THAT PROJECT, AND THE ARCHITECT HAS DONE SOME PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL PLANNING FOR IT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE ESTIMATE THAT WE'VE BASED IT ON. BUT IT'S THEIR ESTIMATE IS IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE INDUSTRY CURRENTLY. AND SO THAT NUMBER I WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULDN'T CHANGE MORE THAN 5 OR 10%, EVEN WITH ANOTHER ARCHITECT OR SEVERAL OTHER ARCHITECTS, CONTRACTORS LOOKING AT IT, AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, IF YOU PLEASE. WELL TRUSTEE GARCIA, AS. I COULD

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WHAT'S ON ON THE WEBSITE. SO BY GOING BY WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE, DO THEY GET UPGRADES TO THEIR THEIR TURF OR DO THEY NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. SO THAT THAT KIND OF TELLS ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE BID PACKAGE IS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REMOVED ON, ON, ON THIS PRESENTATION. OH, YEAH. HAVE YOU GOT SOME NOW? YEAH, I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT ONE. SO FOR THE TURF PROJECT, WHAT WAS PLANNED WAS A TURF BASEBALL FIELD AND A TURF SOFTBALL FIELD AT THE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUSES. SO CRAWFORD ALREADY HAS IT, IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN CLEMENTS. SO THIS WILL BE TEN BASEBALL FIELDS AND TEN SOFTBALL FIELDS. THANK YOU. AND, MR. GARCIA, IF I CAN ADD ONE COMPONENT TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU ADDRESSED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE GROWTH. SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID TARGET ELEMENTARY 55 IS THAT A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEED FOR THAT SCHOOL HASN'T YET STARTED, OR IS IN THE BEGINNING PHASES OF STARTING AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL YEARS OUT. HOWEVER ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THE BOARD DOES HAVE IS IF WE DETERMINE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THROUGH FUTURE PARCEL UPDATES, THAT THE ENROLLMENT IS GROWING FASTER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED, WE CAN USE AN INTENT TO REIMBURSE FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND THAT SCHOOL EARLIER, AND USE FUTURE BOND PROCEEDS TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES. SO WE DO HAVE SOME LEVERAGE THERE TO ADDRESS THAT NEED IF IT SHOULD ARISE, WHICH I THINK WE DID THAT WE DID WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. CORRECT? SULLIVAN. I BELIEVE, WAS ONE SCHOOL THAT WAS DONE. I CAN'T RECALL THE OTHER. MAYBE MALALA, BUT IT WAS. YEAH, WE HAVE DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WAS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS OUR ESTIMATED SAVINGS AND OPERATIONAL COSTS BY BUILDING THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER, BECAUSE THE REASON WHY WE OBVIOUSLY WE BUILD IT TO OFFSET. AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S SAVINGS. EVENTUALLY IT PAYS FOR ITSELF. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN A PICKLE. SO CAN CAN SOMEBODY REFRESH MY MEMORY ON ON WHAT THAT WAS BY HAVING THAT TRANSPORTATION CENTER. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE RANGE OF 500 TO $900,000 THAT WE ANTICIPATED SAVING, PRIMARILY THROUGH DEADHEAD MILES AND GREATER EFFICIENCIES WITH THE CNG FLEET. AND THAT'S IT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. DID YOU. OKAY. SO. OH, SORRY, ANDY. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON RICK'S QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THIS IS PRELIMINARY, BUT I HEAR THAT THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO, I MEAN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF 1.2 BILLION AND I SEE 6 MILLION TO JUST UTILIZE WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR FINE ARTS AND SO I, I BELIEVE THAT WAS JUST HIGHTOWER.

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YOU KNOW I JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RENOVATION AND THE ADDITIONS WERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW I KNOW WE HAVE YOU KNOW, LIKE GIRLS, GIRLS PRESS BOX, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S A REAL EQUITY ISSUE. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, WERE WE TRYING TO BRING APPLES TO APPLES? AND THEN IF WE'RE ELIMINATING THOSE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? THANK YO. SO BRIEFLY I'M GOING TO GO BACK ONE SLIDE TO JUST REORIENT US AROUND WHERE WE HAD LEFT THE DISCUSSION. AND SO AS YOU ALL RECALL, THE OPTIONS THAT MRS. BROWN HAD WALKED THROUGH RESULTED IN ABOUT 95, RIGHT, AT $96 MILLION IN ACTUAL POTENTIAL SAVINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE ON THE BOND. AND MISS HANNAH POINTED OUT THAT THAT IS GREATER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED. AND SO I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE IMPACT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, AND THEN WHAT WOULD ULTIMATELY END UP WITH CONTINGENCY SO THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, YOU CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. AND SO, I'LL START BY SAYING OUT WITH THE TURF AND ATHLETICS BY REMOVING THAT FROM THE BUDGET.

AS, AS MRS. BROWN INDICATED THAT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF THE DEFICIT BY $29.2 MILLION. AND SO THAT WOULD BRING OUR DEFICIT. AND THIS IS COMBINED WITH FINE ARTS. SO THIS IS FINE ARTS AND ATHLETICS THAT WOULD BRING OUR DEFICIT DOWN TO $35.6 MILLION. AND SO THAT WOULD BE OUR NEW DEFICIT THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING OFF OF GOING FORWARD, IF WE DEFER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 AND THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY TO A FUTURE BOND, THAT RESULTS IN $66.8 MILLION BEING REDUCED FROM THE EXPENDITURES. AND AGAIN, THESE WERE PLANNED EXPENDITURES. AND SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE THAT FUNDING. AND SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN US PLACING $31 MILLION INTO PROGRAM CONTINGENCY IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT ACTION. AND SO, MISS HANNON, THIS IS, I THINK, WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THIS IS THAT NOW WE HAVE MORE THAN WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE BOND. HOWEVER RECALL THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE EXPECT AN ADDITIONAL 15, $2.8 MILLION TO POTENTIALLY BE IDENTIFIED AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE REMAINING 30% OF PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE COST ALLOCATIONS. AND SO WE WOULD WANT TO REDUCE THAT FROM THAT CONTINGENCY AMOUNT. AND SO IN ESSENCE, WE WOULD BE LEFT WITH ABOUT $16 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME BUFFER TO WORK AGAINST ANY FUTURE COST OVERRUNS THAT MAY COME ABOUT. OR AS WE'VE MENTIONED TIME AND AGAIN, THAT $600 MILLION IN LIFE CYCLE DEFICIENCIES THAT'S BEEN HELD OUT THERE, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL. AND SO WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN ONCE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT? AND SO IN ESSENCE, IF WE LOOK TO WHAT WE HAVE, PROPOSITION A, IF THE BOARD WERE TO ACT ON THIS, WE WOULD INCREASE OUR PROGRAM CONTINGENCY TO $17.4 MILLION.

THAT'S THE $16 MILLION THAT WE JUST WALKED THROUGH, PLUS THE ADDITION THE EXISTING $1.4 MILLION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. AND SO THE CONSTRAINT AROUND THAT FUNDING WOULD BE IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR PROP A. AND SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY FOR USING THAT OUTSIDE OF PROPOSITION A. HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE THE 14 AND 18 CONTINGENCY AVAILABLE TO US THAT TOTALS $14.9 MILLION. AND AGAIN, THE BOARD HAS DISCRETION ON HOW WE USE THAT. AND SO THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED BETWEEN PROPS A, B AND C. AND I'M DESCRIBING IT VERY SIMPLY HERE. IT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX WHEN WE COME TO THE ACTUAL MECHANICS OF IT. BUT IN ESSENCE THAT'S A FREE AND AVAILABLE FOR YOU ALL TO USE. AND SO WE WOULD CLOSE OUT WITH, WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT $32 MILLION IN TOTAL CONTINGENCY TO ADDRESS ANY NEEDS THAT COME UP DURING THAT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO LEARN AND HOPE TO FIND IS THAT SOME OF THOSE COST ESTIMATES THAT CAME IN HIGH WERE BEING CONSERVATIVE WITH THIS WOULD START TO COME DOWN, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PERHAPS GO BACK AS AS MRS. BROWN MENTIONED EARLIER, TO GO BACK AND VISIT SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE EITHER DEFERRED OR POSTPONED. AND SO SOME OF THE FINE ARTS ADDITIONS, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS WE COULD POTENTIALLY GO BACK AND REVISIT. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS STANDING HERE TODAY, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A FALSE HOPE. OH, WE CAN DO THAT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY IS TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE BOND AND PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF CONTINGENCY FOR THOSE UNKNOWNS THAT WE KNOW WILL ARISE OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS AS WE COMPLETE EXECUTING THE 23 BOND.

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AND SO THE REAL END RESULT OF THIS IS IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE ACTIONS, WE WILL HAVE STABILIZED THE DEFICIT FOR THE 2023 BOND. AND SO AS WELL AS HAVING CONTINGENCY AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE UNFORESEEN NEEDS THAT WILL COME UP. AND SO AS WE FINISH OUT THE CONVERSATION, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND I THINK EVERYONE WOULD AGREE, IS THAT THESE ARE NOT IDEAL OR EASY DECISIONS. THESE ARE NOT ONES THAT WE WOULD PREFER TO MAKE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, GIVEN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOND.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AS MRS. BROWN SAID, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO EXECUTE WITH EXCELLENCE. AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS PROVIDES US WITH THE MOST IDEAL OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOND WITHOUT BEING ENCUMBERED BY HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE DEFICIT? BUT IT ALSO GIVES US SOME ABILITY, HOPEFULLY, AS WE PROCEED THROUGH THE BOND, TO PERHAPS REDIRECT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS BACK TO PROJECTS THAT WE WEREN'T INITIALLY ABLE TO COMPLETE AND LIMIT WHAT WE HAD TO DEFER AND LIMIT ANY OPTIONS THAT MAY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS. AND SO MISS HANNAH AND I HOPE THAT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THAT ACCOUNTING, I ADDRESSED YOUR QUESTION. BUT, THAT CONCLUDES THIS COMPONENT OF THAT. AND I'LL PAUSE HERE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE. MR. HAMILTON, YOU HAD SOMETHING. YES. THANK YOU. SO I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS, JUST KIND OF OUT OF ORDER A LITTLE BIT, BUT, NATATORIUM QUESTIONS. SO NOT A SERIOUS QUESTION, BUT CAN WE CALL IT THE SIMONE MANUEL NATATORIUM? I THINK WE CAN CALL IT THAT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT? OKAY. BUT, SERIOUS QUESTIONS, SO ON THE, THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE ESTIMATE DATES, WHICH WAS SEVERAL SLIDES AGO, I BELIEVE IT HAS JUNE OF 2025 AS THE ESTIMATE DATE FOR THE NATATORIUM. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE USING FOR THE WHAT ARE WE USING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION START DATE CURRENTLY FOR THE NATATORIUM? BASED ON A START SOMEWHERE IN THE NEXT THIS QUARTER, WE WOULD BE BASING IT ON PROBABLY A SECOND QUARTER OF 25, THIRD QUARTER OF 25 AT THE LATEST. CONSTRUCTION START. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT? WHAT'S THE BALLPARK ADDITIONAL COST IF WE DID THE NATATORIUM VERSUS JUST DOING A AQUATICS PRACTICE FACILITY, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED TO BE OKAY. OKAY, SO THE MY OTHER QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, SO THIS IS PROBABLY A TWO TO BE DETERMINED QUESTION ALSO. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION, A YEAR FROM NOW. SO IF WE I WAS I WAS THINKING WITH THAT JUNE 2025 ESTIMATE DATE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING TO BE EVEN LATER, SO THAT WOULD MEAN THIS QUESTION COULD HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT. BUT IF WE IF WE DID MOVE THE CONSTRUCTION DATE UP, THEN WE WOULD TAKE AWAY WHATEVER INFLATION OR CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO I GUESS IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A TO BE DETERMINED THE SOONER THERE ARE, THE SOONER YOU START. YEAH.

THERE ARE SOME SAVINGS TO BE GAINED. SO, A PREVIOUS TRUSTEE MENTIONED THAT HE THOUGHT HE WAS DOING A GREAT JOB BY, VOTING NOT TO BUILD A PROPOSED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THIS WAS MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO, I THINK. AND THEN THE GROWTH IN THE AREA ENDED UP BEING SUCH THAT THEY HAD TO BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LATER. AND SO HE THOUGHT, YAY! I SAVED THE DISTRICT $21 MILLION, I THINK, AT THE TIME, BUT THEN THEY HAD TO SPEND LIKE $26 MILLION WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY BUILT IT. SO DELAYING IS NOT ALWAYS SAVING MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. SO GOOD, GOOD LESSON THAT I TOOK FROM THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT THOMPSON. SO I'VE SAT AND LISTENED SO. I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE TUR, IS THAT A NEED OR WANT? IS IT NECESSARY? HOW ARE THE CURRENT EXISTING? WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE BASEBALL TURF RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY. BUT IF THEY'RE FINE, THEY'RE FINE. SO WHY DO WE NEED TO INSTALL SOMETHING THAT THAT DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED. SO

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OKAY. SO THAT'S MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED BECAUSE OUR BASEBALL FIELDS ARE CURRENTLY IN GOOD CONDITION. CORRECT I'D SAY THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, BUT IT'S ALSO, I THINK A DESIRE FOR OUR ATHLETICS DEPARTMENT AND OUR ATHLETICS TEAMS TO HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE COMPARABLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. I GET IT, BUT THEY'RE FINE. OKAY, SECOND QUESTION, BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS ARE WRITTEN ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF BRIARGATE IS COMPLETE? BECAUSE I THINK AT OUR LAST BOND INFORMATION SESSION OR TWO BOND INFORMATION SESSIONS AGO, IT WAS AT 15%. SO WHERE ARE WE NOW? RIGHT NOW, AS OF TODAY. OKAY. ACTUALLY GO AHEAD. OKAY PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION. OKAY WE REPORTED THIS IN THE BOC LAST WEEK WITH REGARDS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF BRIARGATE IS ROUGHLY AROUND 20%. THAT WAS AT THE END OF AUGUST. WE HAVEN'T GOT THE FULL PAY APPLICATION TO TELL US WHERE WE ARE AT THE TRUE END OF AUGUST. THAT WILL BE RECEIVED THIS WEEK. AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER REFLECTION AND PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO 20 TO OR 25%. OKAY I'LL JUST WRITE 25% HERE. OKAY. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55 BECAUSE I WAS AT A REALTOR EVENT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND THEY'RE MARKETING THE CONSTRUCTION BY JOHNSON. FROM JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT. THE CONSTRUCTION OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOL 55. AND SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, WHAT IS THAT CONCERN? WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF US CANCELING THAT PROJECT IN RELATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND BASICALLY WHAT THE PARENTS PRETTY MUCH WAS SOLD, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING TO THAT GOING TO BE IN ACCOUNTING FOR THAT? SO IT'S I'M GOING TO START A PART OF THIS ANSWER. AND I THINK THAT I'LL HAVE OTHERS TAG ON. SO IN TERMS OF WHAT A DEVELOPER ADVERTISES, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DO AND WHETHER IT MATERIALIZES OR NOT. AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE PAST, DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE ADVERTISED X IS HAPPENING DOESN'T END UP HAPPENING. AND SO THAT PART WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT WE DO CONTROL IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM OUR DEMOGRAPHER, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT POINTS TO THE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THE SCHOOL. AND WE WANT WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE CAREFULLY BALANCE THE INFORMATION WE'RE RECEIVING EACH YEAR FROM OUR DEMOGRAPHER AND MAKING THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS AGAINST THAT. AND SO THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, AS OF NOW, TELLS US THAT THERE IS SOME BUFFER THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR OPENING THAT SCHOOL. AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD POINT TO IS THAT THAT INFORMATION IS FLUID AND CHANGES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND YOU MAY RECALL OR I BELIEVE SOME OF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE. WE HAD A CAMPUS PLAN FOR THE PARK'S EDGE AREA IN MISSOURI CITY. THE GROWTH ENDED UP NOT HAPPENING THERE, AND WE ENDED UP REPURPOSING THOSE FUNDS. AND I ALWAYS FORGET WHICH CAMPUS, BUT IT'S EITHER FERGUSON OR BUTCHER ELEMENTARY BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE THE ACTUAL NEED WAS. AND SO AS A RESULT, LIKE, AGAIN, WE USE THE DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHER INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, NOT NECESSARILY PRESSURE FROM A DEVELOPER, BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING IN NO HOMES AND THEY WANT PEOPLE TO SEE A NEW SHINY SCHOOL TO MOVE IN. AND SO WE'RE BEING RESPONSIVE TO REAL DATA AS OPPOSED TO WHAT I WOULD SAY, MARKETING FROM DEVELOPERS. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATION TO THE DEVELOPER TO, TO BUILD THE SCHOOL. BUT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE TOLD THE VOTERS WE NEEDED THE SCHOOL, BUT SOMETIMES THAT INFORMATION DOES CHANGE BASED ON UPDATED DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER. QUESTION, THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. SO IF WE DEFER THE CONSTRUCTION, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE, INSTEAD OF JUST REDOING THE FACILITY TO

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DEFER THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY, BUT ACTUALLY PUT THE FUELING STATION AT ONE OF THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT'S AN OPTION. YES, MA'AM. AND I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE FINAL QUESTION IS, SO WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF CANCELING SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN STARTED? THE BIGGEST ISSUE, AND I'M SAYING THIS FOR MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT I THINK IT IS ACCURATE, IS THAT WE TOLD THE VOTERS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, AND WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT PROMISE OR OBLIGATION. AND SO THAT'S REALLY OUR BIGGEST RISK, THE BUDGET IS WHAT THE BUDGET IS, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT. THE BOARD EVEN CANNOT VOTE TO EXCEED THE 1.26 BILLION THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY VOTERS. AND SO AS A RESULT, WE HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THAT NUMBER.

THE OTHER OPTION, AND IT WAS NOT LISTED HERE, BUT THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT LAMAR DID. THEY HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WERE COMING IN OVER BUDGET. THEY WENT BACK OUT WITH A PROPOSITION TO RECEIVE MORE MONEY. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BALANCE WHAT WE FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, WE MISSED THE MARK AND HAVE. SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I BELIEVE, IS THAT WE MADE AN OBLIGATION TO THE VOTERS, AND WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT. AND IT'S A LOSS OF TRUST FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS TO REGAIN THAT TRUST BY SHOWING THEM WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT YOU AUTHORIZE. BUT IT DOES MEAN WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE HARD CHOICES. YES, YES. AND, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING EVEN MORE HARDER CHOICES ARE COMING UP WITH THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OUR ENROLLMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OUR UTILIZATION. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK AT THE BOND, AND NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT DO WE ACTUALLY NEED VERSUS WHAT DO WE WANT, WHAT IS NECESSARY. BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD ON TO THE BOND PURSE STRINGS A LITTLE TIGHTER THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. AND IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT 600 MILLION, THAT'S OUT THERE, I'M JUST LIKE, WE MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE, OR AT LEAST OF A MORE OF A CUSHION TO COVER SOME THINGS THAT JUST COME UP. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST REALLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS BOND AND SAY, WHAT DO WE NEED AND WHAT DO WE WANT AND HOW WE CAN GET THERE AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE FULFILLING OUR PROMISE TO THE VOTERS. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS. THANK YOU, MISS HANNON. SO I, I APPRECIATE THE OPTIONS COMING TO US, AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO SOUND VERY UNPOPULAR, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE BASE MODEL OF A CAR WORKS JUST AS WELL AS WHEN YOU ADD ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND THE SHINY DASHBOARD AND THE, THE BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNO, FAUX WOOD AND LEATHER AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS CLEMENS HIGH SCHOOL IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST. IT MAY BE THE BIGGEST BUDGET ITEM. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON PROP A, AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS AND I SEE $6,000 BEING REMOVED FROM AN OLD HIGH SCHOOL FOR A PROGRAM 6,000,006 MILL, WHAT DID I SAY? 6000. OH 6000. OH, WE'RE NOT EVEN DISCUSSING 6000 YET. I'M SORRY. 6 MILLION.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT I'M SURE YOU LOOKED AT CLEMENS HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT BUDGET GREW EXPONENTIALLY FROM WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH. AND I, YOU KNOW, AND SO I, I, I'M JUST I'M JUST GOING TO ASK EITHER MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, CRAWFORD'S A BEAUTIFUL HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE, THE SAME, CAMPUS THAT WE'D BE BUILDING AT CLEMENS. I JUST, I JUST WANT TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE BASE MODEL IS GOING TO BE VERY FUNCTIONAL AND VERY,

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I GOT THE, THE, THE FAKE WOOD INSTEAD OF THE REAL WOOD OR THE FAKE LEATHER INSTEAD OF THE REAL LEATHER, BUT IT STILL LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE CRAWFORD. AND SO WE TRY TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE. I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS WE HEAR YOU, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY DELIBERATE WITH THOSE DECISIONS AS WE MAKE THEM AND SHARE WITH THE BOARD WHEN WE'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS SO THAT YOU ALL CAN QUESTION, I THINK, AS MISS JONES DID, IS THIS NECESSARY OR IS IT NEEDED, I MEAN, OR IS IT WANTED? AND TRY TO BALANCE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING NOT ONLY THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE BOARD AS WELL? OKAY, OKAY. AND ANYWAY, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. INFORMATION ABOUT TURF AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE PUT IN THE BOND FOR HIGHTOWER, FOR THEIR FINE ARTS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IT WAS EITHER EQUITY INSIDE THE DISTRICT OR EQUITY BEYOND THE DISTRICT. RIGHT AS A, YOU KNOW, CAN WE HAVE CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE WHAT THE STANDARD THAT OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS HAVE FOR THEIR STUDENTS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GWEN. AND IF I COULD JUST TAG ONE THING ON THERE, I HATE DOING THIS, BUT THE ONE THING AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH, OH, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SAYING AS WELL IS THAT IF WE TAKE THIS PATH, IT SHOULD GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY AS WE GET PROBABLY MIDWAY THROUGH THE BOND TO REVISIT SOME OF THESE DECISIONS. AND SO WHILE WE ARE SAYING NOT TODAY WITH AND I'M JUST USING HIGHTOWER BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE YOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO HIGHTOWER TODAY. THERE MAY BE SOME SOME EXPECTATION THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THAT PRIOR TO THE NEXT BOND SO THAT THOSE NEEDS ARE MET. AND SO AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH FALSE HOPE. OH, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. BUT ALSO BE RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SET ASIDE SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO ADDRESS THOSE IMMEDIATE NEEDS, PLUS FUTURE NEEDS THAT MAY COME UP. AND SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS NOT IDEAL. THIS IS NOT THE DECISION WE WANT TO MAKE. IT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE MORE FORCED INTO MAKING. I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON HER STUFF IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET MR. GARCIA ASK HIS QUESTION. I ONLY HAVE 20 MORE QUESTIONS TO GET ONE. SO PIGGYBACKING OFF OF TRUSTEE HAHN AND TRUSTEE JONES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEED VERSUS WANT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. TO THE POINT OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ATHLETIC, LIKE THE TURF. YOU KNOW, ONE ARGUMENT IS THAT WE LOOKED AT CLEMENS TO SEE, I ASSUME CLEMENS KNEW, BASEBALL FIELD WAS TURF. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE ARGUMENT AGAINST AND ONE ARGUMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BE EQUITABLE ACROSS THE DISTRICT, BUT ONLY ONE HIGH SCHOOL HAS TURF. WE'RE TRYING TO BE EQUITABLE ACROSS, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR COMPETITORS. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, THAT WAS MENTIONED, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE REASON WHY WE SAID TURF IS MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE, ON, YOU KNOW, TURF IS PROBABLY A LOT CHEAPER THAN HAVING TO MAINTAIN A NICE, BEAUTIFUL BASEBALL SOFTBALL FIELD. YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO OUT AND MOW REGULAR BASES, GET CREWS OUT THERE. AND IT'S NOT LIKE THE CREWS ARE GOING OUT AND JUST MOWING AROUND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. AND THEN THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, WEEDS OVER HERE THAT DON'T MESS WITH THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THE PTO HAS TO DO. BUT WITH WITH THE BASEBALL, WITH THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DIVOTS SO STUDENTS DON'T GET HURT AND,

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BUT IF THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE TO BEGIN WITH, THEN MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST THING TO DO. MAYBE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SAVING PENNIES INSTEAD OF DOLLARS IF WE WOULD JUST. ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE THAT POINT GOING FORWARD. I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS OF LIKE INFORMATION THAT I WANT. YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT I'VE HEARD THEM FROM SEVERAL OF THE TRUSTEES. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING A RUNNING LIST, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAP AND OVERFLOW AND REZONING. I THINK WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT CAMPUSES ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED, AND MAYBE TO WHAT EXTENT. IF YOU GUYS CAN GIVE US SOME ESTIMATES ON THAT. AND THEN HOW MANY YEARS? LIKE SO ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT CAP AND OVERFLOW? IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAKE THIS DECISION, I THINK AS MUCH AS, AS TRANSPARENT AS WE CAN BE AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN PROJECT THAT TO OUR FAMILIES IF THIS DECISION COMES DOWN, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE PIKE, THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT. I MISS JONES ALREADY ASKED MY QUESTION. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF DEFERRING THE TURF IF THERE IS ANY IMPACT OTHER THAN, WELL, TO THE EXTENT WE MIGHT HAVE OPERATIONAL SAVINGS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE, BUT IF THERE IS ANY OTHER IMPACT THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING, RECOGNIZING, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE GIVE US THAT INFORMATION, I HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT FINE ARTS. WHICH CAMPUSES ARE IMPACTED, WHICH YOU GUYS ANSWERED AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. SO YEAH.

SO YOU HAVE THAT ONE DOWN FOR US. I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU. I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT OF NOT OF IT WAS 6 TO 700,000. DID YOU SAY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION? YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE COST ESTIMATES IF WE PUT IN A FUELING STATION IN AN EXISTING FACILITY. SO HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DO WE PUT BACK INTO THE DEFICIT IF WE DO THAT? AND THEN JUST SOME FEASIBILITY ON THAT. SO BECAUSE I REMEMBER I REMEMBER PASSING THE CNG BUSSES AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID IS, OH, WE'LL BUILD A FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, A FUELING FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE. BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR THAT.

AND SO NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE DO HAVE THE SPACE FOR THAT. SO I'D JUST LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT. LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO. HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE FACILITY? DOES THAT

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WE'VE DONE MOST OF THE DISCUSSION. SO THIS IS JUST TO QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OBTAIN ESTIMATES ON OUR REMAINING PROJECTS. AND WE SHARED THAT TIMELINE OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE EARLIER. SO YOU'VE SEEN THAT WE'LL ALSO CONTINUE TO WORK ON WAYS TO OBTAIN SAVINGS AND LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES. AND SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE IMMINENT, LIKE THE LAND SALES THAT WE MENTIONED. AND THEN BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO BALANCE THE 23 BOND FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN STRICT OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT OF THE BOND. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE REGULAR REPORTS BACK TO THE BOARD UTILIZATION OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EXECUTING THE BOND WITH EXCELLENCE. AND SO THAT CONCLUDES THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. THE NEXT COMPONENT WILL BE ON THE FURNITURE. IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO. LET ME MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, BEFORE WE MOVE ON. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE BOARD MEETING, AND I ASSUME THAT THAT MEANS ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE RECOMMENDED FOR US TO CONSIDER DEFERRING ARE NOT WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY ON THEM. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID WE DID PRELIMINARY DESIGNS FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 55. ARE WE STOPPING ALL WORK UNTIL THE BOARD MAKES OKAY? BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY ON THINGS THAT UNTIL THE BOARD CONSIDERS THIS AND MAKES A DETERMINATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL MENTION IS THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED SOME CONTRACTUAL WORK ON THAT. IT IS PAUSED. NOW, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE US THE ABILITY TO FIND ADDITIONAL SAVINGS IF THE FINAL DECISION MADE BY THE BOARD WERE TO BE STOPPED AND DEFER, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL SAVINGS REALIZED IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU. BUT AT LEAST WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU NOW IS EVERYTHING THAT'S OBLIGATED. AND SO AGAIN, OKAY, THE ANSWER IS YES. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY, MISS JONES. SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A HOLD OVER. OH, I GUESS I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, AND I'M JUST. JUST GOING TO BE DIRECT AND TRANSPARENT HERE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST EVEN LOOK MORE INTO CONSIDERING DEFERRING EVEN MORE PROJECTS. AND IT GOES BACK TO NEEDS VERSUS WANTS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE CONSIDERING OR JUST PLAYING WITH THE IDEA OF GOING BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS, AT LEAST WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE CUT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE CAN'T DO IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. VERSUS, WELL, LAMAR HAS NICE FACILITIES BETTER THAN OURS, SO WE WANT THEM TO. OURS ARE STILL OPERATIONAL, HOWEVER. YEAH, THEY HAVE NIKE, BUT WE HAVE REEBOK OKAY. AND IT'S STILL WORKABLE YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S HOW THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TAXPAYERS ARE NICKEL AND DIMING IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT US LIKE WHY CAN'T YOU NICKEL AND DIME IT. DIAMOND WHY CAN'T YOU CUT EVEN MORE? WHY CAN'T YOU DEFER SOME OF YOUR WANTS LIKE WE HAVE? AND SO I WOULD RATHER BUILD THAT COMMUNITY TRUST ON THE FISCAL SIDE OF SAYING, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND, WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE MONEY WE GAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT IT ALL IS GOING TO BOIL DOWN. AND WE CAN'T SAY, WELL, WE WANT THIS.

WELL DO YOU NEED IT? AND HOW DO WE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YEAH, WE WANT THE LUXURY CAR WITH THE LEATHER SEATS. YES. WE WANT THE HOUSE WITH THE HARDWOOD FLOORS.

BUT WE GOT TO GET VINYL PLANK. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. AND SO I WANT TO REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER THIS IS GOOD. AND THIS IS A START. BUT GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR NEEDS VERSUS WANTS TO SAY

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FURNITURE STANDARDS, JUST SO THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN OUR DISPLAY UP HERE.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE FURNITURE PIECES, FROM OUR FURNITURE STANDARDS HERE FOR YOUR VIEWING ON THIS EVENING, WE'LL HAVE OUR OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM TWO OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, SO WE WILL HAVE, MISS MELISSA HUBBARD HERE, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE MISS ASHLEY DIXON. WHO WILL BE PRESENTING SOME INFORMATION TO US ON THE EDUCATIONAL AND FURNITURE STANDARDS. AND THEN AFTER THAT PRESENTATION, OF COURSE, WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THAT TIME. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OH, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO THE PRESENTATION IS READY. AND I THINK WE WILL HAVE MISS DIXON FIRST. OKAY SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT.

BOARD MEMBERS, DOCTOR SMITH, AS MISS BROWN SAID TONIGHT, I'LL BE GIVING YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW ON THE FURNITURE AND ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE FURNITURE AND FURNITURE AND EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS. IN THIS SLIDE, I WILL IDENTIFY THE TIMELINE OF KEY ACTIVITIES ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE EDUCATIONAL AND FURNITURE STANDARDS. SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN IN 2010, PURCHASING CREATED A THE FIRST FURNITURE DISTRICT STANDARD, WHICH WAS THE GOAL WITH THE GOAL OF CONTROLLING QUALITY AND LONG TERM COST TO THE DISTRICT. IN 2015, REPRESENTATIVES FROM PURCHASING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, CURRICULUM, CENTRAL OFFICE AND ADMINISTRATION ATTENDED TOURS OF 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS IN ORDER TO GAIN INSIGHT ON THIS CONCEPT AND HOW IT AFFECTS CLASSROOM CONFIGURATIONS AND FURNITURE.

JUST TO NAME A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THE TOURS THAT WE WENT ON, WE WENT TO THE BAYLOR RESEARCH AND INNOVATIVE COLLABORATION, OR THE BRICK IN WACO, AND WE ALSO WALKED MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, WHICH INCLUDED CYPHERS, LATEST TO OPEN MIDDLE SCHOOLS AT THE TIME. REMEMBER, THIS IS IN 2015, WHILE WE WALKED THESE FACILITIES, THE TEAM WERE EXPOSED TO MODULAR CLASSROOM CONFIGURATIONS AND CONCEPTS THROUGHOUT THE BUILT AND THE NON BUILT ENVIRONMENTS. AT THE SAME TIME, THE DISTRICT STARTED TO BEGIN DEPLOYING 21ST CENTURY FURNITURE THROUGH STAND UP DESK AT FULL AT GRADES THREE THROUGH FIVE FOR SULLIVAN AND MADDEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THOSE WERE NEW SCHOOLS WITH THE 2014 BOND. ACTUALLY, MADDEN WAS PART OF THE 27 2007 BOND, SO, WHEN WE OPENED UP SULLIVAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE ALSO INCLUDED THE WOBBLE STOOLS IN EACH CLASSROOM, ALONG WITH FLEXIBLE FURNITURE AT THE COLLABORATION SPACES. IN 2017, WE BEGAN A YEAR LONG PROCESS OF UPDATING THE 2018 EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS. WITH THAT, WE KICKED OFF THAT IN OCTOBER OF 2017 WITH A BOARD VISIONING SESSIONS HELD, FOLLOWED BY A WORKSHOP AND THEN WE STARTED WHAT WAS OVER 50 MEETINGS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTAL STAKEHOLDERS AND THE EDUCATIONAL DESIGN COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION STAFF, CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

ALL OF THAT WAS WITH THE GOAL OF ESTABLISHING THE LEARNER EXPERIENCE THAT WOULD BE USED AS THE BASIS OF DESIGN FOR OUR 2018 ED SPECS. 2018 WAS A VERY BUSY YEAR, SO WE STARTED OFF BY OPENING UP THORNTON MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT FALL. BUT FIRST WE HAD TO HOLD A MIDDLE SCHOOL FURNITURE EXPO TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF 21ST CENTURY LEARNING WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE IN THIS SCHOOL. NEXT WE HAD IN JUNE, THE BOARD ADOPTED CSS LOCAL AND THIS INCLUDED THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES OF SAFETY LEARNING COMMUNITY AND SUSTAINABILITY. THESE DESIGN PRINCIPLES PLAYED A KEY PART IN THE FINALIZED 2018 EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS, WHICH WERE

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IN 2019. OH, I'M SORRY, I JUMPED AHEAD. THE EXPO WAS DONE IN NOVEMBER AND IN 2019 WE TOOK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND WE COMPILED IT TOGETHER AND DEPLOYED THE 2018 FURNITURE STANDARDS. WE DEVELOPED IT AND WE STARTED DEPLOYING IT ON THE 15 CAMPUSES THAT WERE SELECTED FOR THE REFURBISHMENTS IN BOND 2018. IN 2022, WE CREATED AND PUBLISHED A FURNITURE STANDARD FOR ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS. WE ALSO UPDATED AND PUBLISHED AND PUBLIC AND PUBLISHED THE 2023 EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS, AND WE CREATED A FACILITY EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY INCLUDED A MERGE OF THE EXISTING FURNITURE STANDARDS THAT WERE DEVELOPED IN 2022 WITH THE 2018 EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS. THAT PROCESS TOOK A YEAR AND MERGED THOSE TOGETHER INTO ONE DOCUMENT IN YOUR GREEN FOLDER. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR FIRST FIVE ATTACHMENT OR I'M SORRY IN YOUR FOLDER BEHIND THE GREEN TAB, TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST FIVE DOCUMENTS. AND THOSE ARE EXCERPTS FROM THE FACILITY EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH SHOWS THE FURNITURE WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE STANDARDS THAT ALSO INCLUDE BOTH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE NON BUILT ENVIRONMENT, MEANING THE OPERABLE PARTITIONS, THE DOORS, THE WINDOWS. THAT'S THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE NON BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS THE FURNITURE, THE MOVABLE PARTS. OKAY AND MOVING ON, IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE BOND 2023 CAMPUS REFURBISHMENTS AND COMPLETED FOUR SCHOOLS. SO WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS HUBBARD TO EXPLAIN THE DRIVERS FOR CHANGE. THANK YOU, MISS DIXON. SO SHE REFERENCED POLICY. CBS LOCAL AND YOU'LL FIND THAT IT'S THE VERY LAST PAGE IN YOUR, IN YOUR BINDER BEHIND THAT GREEN TAB. AND WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR POLICY, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THAT DEFINES THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE GROUNDED IN CREATING A SPACE THAT SUPPORTS A STUDENT CENTERED LEARNING ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT STUDENT CENTERED LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, WE WANT TO CREATE STUDENT OWNERSHIP OF LEARNING, BY ALLOWING FOR CLEARLY DEFINED LEARNING INTENTION, SUCCESS CRITERIA, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LEARNING AND WHY WE'RE LEARNING IT, PARTNERED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT FRAMEWORK OF PEER AND SELF ASSESSMENT, WHICH REQUIRES COLLABORATION. IT REQUIRES GOAL SETTING AND FEEDBACK IN THAT ENVIRONMENT IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH COMMUNICATION STRUCTURES, COLLABORATION STRUCTURES. THE FURNITURE BECOMES A TOOL OR AN AVENUE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. THOSE THOSE BEST PRACTICES TO OCCUR. AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE FURNITURE ASPECT, THAT IS CREATED WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS, WE THINK ABOUT THE TABLES AND HOW THE TABLES SUPPORT A COLLABORATIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT WITH STUDENTS. THEY CREATE SPACE FOR THAT HANDS ON LEARNING. INSTEAD OF SMALL, SMALL DESKS, SOME OF THESE SPACES ALSO CREATE, AS MISS DIXON HAD MENTIONED, MOVEMENT. AND IF WE THINK ABOUT OUR YOUNGEST LEARNERS AND THEIR ATTENTION SPAN, WANTING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SPACES WHERE THEY'RE MOVING AROUND, THERE'S ALSO DIFFERENTIATED MODELS BASED ON THEIR, THEIR HEIGHTS, RIGHT? AND THEIR, THEIR DEVELOPMENTAL NEEDS. AND SO, MISS DIXON IS GOING TO GET INTO DIFFERENCES IN THE STRUCTURE BASED ON AGE. BUT, ALL OF THESE PIECES THAT

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RIGHT? SO I MIGHT WANT TO READ A BOOK DURING MY INDEPENDENT READING TIME USING A SOFT, SOFT SEATING. OR I MIGHT WANT TO SIT IN A ROCKER CHAIR OR DURING SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL. I MIGHT WANT TO BE ON A WOBBLE STOOL TO GET SOME OF THAT ENERGY OUT. WHILE MY TEACHER IS USING MATH MANIPULATIVES AT THE SMALL GROUP TABLE. SO THE FURNITURE BECOMES THE VENUE TO ALLOW US TO IMPLEMENT THAT SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION COMPONENTS OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL, LIKE INDEPENDENT READING AND THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATION THAT WE WANT TO BE SEEING IN OUR CLASSROOMS EACH AND EVERY DAY. AND SO WITH THAT INSTRUCTIONAL CONNECTION, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MISS DIXON, AND SHE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CLASSROOM CONFIGURATIONS. THANK YOU, MISS HUBBARD. THANK YOU, MISS HUBBAR. OKAY, SO IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST FIVE ATTACHMENTS IN YOUR FOLDER BEHIND THE GREEN TAB, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE FULL EXCERPTS OF THE CLASSROOM CONFIGURATIONS FOR THE VARIOUS GRADE LEVELS. AND SO RIGHT HERE IN THIS SLIDE YOU WILL SEE A SNIP OF THE PRE-K AND KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOMS. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT. WHAT MORE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR FOLDER. SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE SECOND PAGE YOU'LL SEE WITHIN YOUR BINDER, WITHIN THE DOCUMENT THAT THE PRE-K AND K CLASSROOMS HAVE 24 STANDARD CHAIRS FOR THE FLOOR. OR I'M SORRY FOR THE FOUR FLOWER TABLES ALONG WITH THE KIDNEY TABLE AND WOBBLE STOOLS FOR THOSE SMALL GROUP LEARNING SPACES. ALSO ON THE LEFT ON THE RIGHT IS THE FIRST AND SECOND GRADE CLASSROOMS AND WITHIN YOUR ATTACHMENT YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE EIGHT FLOOR ROCKERS FOR THEIR LOW TABLES AND SEVEN STANDARD CHAIRS IN THE CLASSROO. FOR GRADES THREE THROUGH FIVE, THE CONFIGURATION LOOKS THE SAME, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IN THE THIRD GRADE THEY DO NOT HAVE CASTERS, SO FOURTH AND FIFTH DO HAVE CASTERS ON THEIR CHAIRS, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT IT INCLUDES FIVE FLOOR ROCKERS AND 14 STANDARD CHAIRS, ALONG WITH STOOLS, SIX STOOLS FOR THEIR STANDING DESK. YES, SURE. I WAS LOOKING THIS YEAR AND I WAS LIKE I SAID, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT CAN YOU GO BACK? BECAUSE I WAS. OKAY, OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE. SO PRE-K, IF YOU LOOK ON. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK ON THE PRE-K AND IF YOU'LL ACTUALLY GO TO PAGE TWO IN YOUR MIND OR PAGE TWO. SO THE BACK SIDE. YEAH. IF YOU'LL FLIP THE PAGE. YEAH. NO NO NO NO NO. IN THE GREEN 32. YEAH. YES MA'AM. ON PAGE 17. AND 30. OH SORRY. DIDN'T SEE THE PAGE NUMBERS. OKAY I AM THERE NOW. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT WOULD HAVE HELPED IF I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU THE PAGE NUMBER. SO 17 OF 30, SO IF YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AND YOU'LL GO DOWN TO THAT THIRD GRAY SECTION ON FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, OWNER, FURNISHED OWNER INSTALLED. AND HERE YOU'LL SEE ON LINE ON NUMBER 19, YOU'LL SEE STUDENT CHAIRS AT 12IN. AND THERE'S 24 OF THOSE IF YOU'LL GO TO NUMBER 17, YOU'LL SEE THE 60 INCH FLOWER TABLES. THERE'S FOUR OF THOSE. SO WHAT THIS GRAPHIC THAT I HAVE ON THE SLIDE DEPICTS IS THAT INFORMATION GRAPHICALLY THAT IS FOLLOWED BY THE CHART, IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE CHART ON THE SECOND PAGE OF YOUR ATTACHMENT. OKAY. CAN I MOVE ON? OKAY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. I NEED A SPECIAL TEACHER. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE GREAT. LET ME HELP YOU. SO WHEN THE SAME CAN BE SAID, IF WE GO TO PAGE 19 OF 30 FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND GRADE CLASSROOMS, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS THAT I PREVIOUSLY GAVE WITH REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF, STOOLS AND, CLASS. SORRY. NOW I MESSED UP.

OKAY. GOT IT. CAN I ADD ONE THING? YES, YES, YES. OH, NO. ONE OTHER THING THAT MAY HELP YOU IS THAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE DIAGRAMS AND THE CIRCLES, THOSE CORRESPOND TO

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THANK YOU. MISS HANNON OKAY, SO I WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS,

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BUT I NEED SIX CHAIRS AT MY KIDNEY TABLE, SO THAT PUTS ME DOWN TO 11 REGULAR CHAIRS IN MY CLASSROOM. AND SO I'VE GOT TO ROTATE KIDS THROUGH ARE THESE CALLED FLOOR ROCKERS. AND SO I HAVE TO ROTATE KIDS THROUGH FLOOR ROCKERS. AND SOME KIDS MAY NOT WANT TO SIT IN THOSE. MY DAUGHTER COULD NOT HAVE PHYSICALLY SAT IN THAT. SHE CAN'T. SHE HER LEGS DON'T WORK THAT WAY. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T SIT ON THE FLOOR TO HAVE DINNER. BUT SO WHEN I DO THE MATH HERE AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT MYSELF, EVEN IN MY 30S, HAVING TO GET DOWN ON THE FLOOR AT THESE TABLES TO HELP KIDS WITH READING, INDEPENDENT READING AND WRITING, IT STRUGGLES. AND SO I, I'M, I'M JUST CONFUSED ON THE NUMBERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT DIFFERENTIATED WAYS TO ALLOW STUDENTS TO LEARN IS IMPORTANT. AND YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT DRIVES SOME PEOPLE CRAZY TO WATCH THEIR KIDS STANDING UP AT THEIR DESK AND LEANING OVER, OR THEY HAVE THEIR FOOT UNDER THEIR, THEIR BOTTOM, AND THEY'RE NOT FLAT ON THE CHAIR. I MEAN, KIDS HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE FACT IS, IT CAN'T BE THEIR ONLY CHOICE. LIKE BEING ASSIGNED TO THIS ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY. AND THEN I'M CALLED TO GROUP AND I STILL HAVE TO SIT ON THE FLOOR. I'M JUST CHALLENGED. WHY? EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE A SEAT AND EVEN AT THE FOURTH AND FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE LEVEL, WE HAVE, DO WE ONLY HAVE 15 REGULAR SIZED CHAIRS FOR KIDS, NORMAL SIZED CHAIRS, AND SOME OF OUR FIFTH GRADE CLASSES HAVE 30 KIDS IN THEM, 27 TO 30 KIDS. WHERE ARE THE KIDS SITTING? AM I NOT AM I NOT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD ME IN THE LAST PRESENTATION. I'M A LITTLE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE WITH NUMBERS, BUT IS THAT SO? IF I HAVE A CLASSROOM OF 30 KIDS, DO ALL OR 27 KIDS? DO I HAVE CHAIRS FOR EVERY 27 KIDS, OR DO THEY HAVE TO RUN IN AND PICK THE SEAT THAT THEY WANT? AND I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO BE YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT RHETORICAL BECAUSE I HAVE THE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THESE ED SPECS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE WOBBLY CHAIRS, THAT'S GREAT. BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY CHAIR OR A FLOOR CHAIR THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY CHAIR. EVERY KID SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST HAVE A REGULAR CHAIR ONE, BECAUSE IT'S PROPER POSTURE. WHEN YOU'RE LEARNING TO WRITE CORRECTLY AND YOU'RE LEARNING TO MANIPULATE YOUR PAPER AND SO I'M THE ONE THAT I THINK I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER TRUSTEE THAT WE HAD BEEN REACHED OUT, ONE ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO USE FURNITURE THAT YOU HAD SPENT YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY OR GOTTEN GRANTS, AND YOU WERE ASKED TO NOT HAVE THAT IN YOUR CLASSROOM ANYMORE. BUT OTHER TEACHERS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND THEY'VE SAID, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FURNITURE FOR MY KIDS. SO THAT THAT'S SO I APPRECIATE THIS

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THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS PRESENTATION. I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED. SO LET ME JUST GO ON TO MY QUESTIONS. GO TO SLIDE ONE. SO YOU SAID THAT. YOU UPDATED THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS AND YOU WENT TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND YOU SAW WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THEIR IN THEIR DISTRICTS. SO MY QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THESE STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATIONS LISTED AND WHO HAS SET THESE EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS AND SPECIFICATIONS. LET'S GO THERE. SO WITH REGARDS TO WHO SET THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS, WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID THAT BIG OVERHAUL IN 2017 TO 2018, WE ACTUALLY FIRST STARTED IT WITH MEETING WITH THE BOARD AND UNDERSTANDING THE VISIONING SESSION, OR HAD VISIONING SESSIONS AND A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS WHAT EDITOR SPECS ARE, WHY WE NEED THEM, AND WHAT INFORMATION WE NEED IN ORDER TO EXTRACT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THOSE AND SO I WOULD SAY BOARD INPUT. THEN WE FOLLOWED WITH STAKEHOLDER INPUT. THAT'S FROM KEY, DEPARTMENTAL LEADERSHIP.

AND THAT WENT DOWN FROM THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL. WE ALSO HAD DIRECTORS. WE HAD COORDINATORS FOR SCIENCE ELA, SOCIAL STUDIES. ALL OF THEM WERE INCLUDED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THEN WE ACTUALLY CREATED THIS EDUCATIONAL LEARNING, OR A CAGE EDUCATIONAL, COMMITTEE

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WE'RE ALSO BASING IT ON OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MODELS, WHICH ARE GROUNDED IN RESEARCH RELATED TO, MATH. OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL IS, CONCRETE, REPRESENTATIONAL, ABSTRACT, AND OUR LESSON CYCLE IS SPECIFIC TO SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION, GUIDED MATH STATIONS, THINGS OF THAT. SO THAT LESSON STRUCTURE AND FRAMEWORK IS GROUNDED IN MATHEMATICAL RESEARCH FOR TEACHING MATHEMATICS, OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL FOR SCIENCE IS BASED ON INQUIRY BASED SCIENCE APPROACH. AS YOU KNOW, THE NEW SCIENCE STANDARDS HAVE JUST BEEN PUBLISHED FOR THIS YEAR. AND THAT IS HANDS ON LEARNING AND EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING. AND SO THOSE ARE THE FRAMEWORKS THAT WE'RE USING IN ORDER TO CREATE A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN. AND THEN THERE IS RESEARCH ON FLEXIBLE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, THAT'S NOT TIED SPECIFIC TO A CONTENT AREA INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL, BUT RESEARCH RELATED TO FLEXIBLE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS. OKAY. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT RESEARCH. SO MY QUESTION, MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW HAS THIS FURNITURE AND WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE REPORTED AS FAR AS HOW HAS THIS FURNITURE IMPACTED ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT OF STUDENTS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN PREVIOUS YEARS VERSUS THE OLD FURNITURE? I CANNOT SAY THAT WE HAVE THAT SPECIFIC DATA ON THE DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FURNITURE AND THE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, BECAUSE I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH TEACHING AND LEARNING RATHER THAN FURNITURE, AND I KNOW JUST BEING FROM K CERTIFIED K THROUGH 12, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE LOWER GRADES THERE ARE THERE'S NECESSARY IT'S NECESSARY FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTS AND CERTAIN TYPES OF CLASSROOMS. MY NEXT QUESTION IS SO WE TALKED. I KEEP HEARING THIS MOVE AND CHOICE IN THE CLASSROOM. SO

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AND I KNOW THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT FOR YOU FOR SURE. YES, BECAUSE I IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO SEE THE JUSTIFICATION HERE. AND SO I'M JUST LIKE WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES ON THE ACADEMIC SIDE AND FURNITURE. AND SO I'M JUST AND WITH THE DISCIPLINE THAT'S GOING ON, I'M LIKE, OKAY, DOES THIS HELP CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT OR DOES IT HURT THE CLASSROOM MANAGEBIGGEST CONCERN ON THAT. T QUESTION IS, WELL, FIRST IS A COMMENT I DON'T CARE IF IT'S NEW FURNITURE, OLD FURNITURE. EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A SEAT IN THE CLASSROOM. NO ONE SHOULD BE ON THE FLOOR. NO ONE SHOULD BE SITTING WHEREVER. EVERY CHILD SHOULD HAVE A PLACE TO SIT IN THE CLASSROOM, WHETHER IT'S NEW OR OLD, REFURBISHED FROM GOODWILL, I DON'T CARE. ALL RIGHT? AS LONG AS THEY HAVE FURNITURE, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO SIT. THE SECOND THING IS, I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS, I WOULD LIKE THE DATA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LONG TERM EDUCATIONAL IMPACT. AND I WOULD ALSO ASK, SINCE YOU GUYS DID GO OUT TO KATY AND CY-FAIR AND I'VE WORKED IN BOTH DISTRICTS, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, WHERE IS THAT DATA? WHERE WHAT IS THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM VERSUS PREVIOUS YEARS IN THIS FLEXIBLE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT? WHAT HAVE THEY SEEN? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SUCCESSES AS WELL? SO I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. MISS JONES, WE CAN COLLECT THAT DATA AS WELL AS THE FEEDBACK ON IF IT'S WORKING FOR TEACHERS. AND I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE CRITICAL FOR US TO TALK ABOUT JUST IN REGARDS TO STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, JUST TRANSITION TIME. SO IF WE'RE WANTING STUDENTS TO COLLABORATE, STUDENT OWNERSHIP, STUDENT ACCOUNTABLE, ACADEMIC CONVERSATIONS, ACADEMIC DISCOURSE IS CRITICAL. SO IF WE'RE IN A STANDARDIZED DESK THAT MAYBE DO NOT ALLOW FOR ME TO SIT IN A GROUP OF FOUR, THE AMOUNT OF INSTRUCTIONAL TIME THAT'S LOST, TRYING TO MAKE THOSE DESKS GO TOGETHER. AND SO WHAT WE CAN DO AND WILL DO IS LOOK AT THAT ACROSS THE DISTRICT. SO I CAN TELL YOU FOR SURE. HERE'S SOME DATA WHERE WE ARE RECAPTURING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. AGAIN, MAYBE NOT THE CHOICE OF FURNITURE, BUT THE FLEXIBLE SEATING AND HOW HAVING THESE DESKS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ALLOW US TO GROUP VERY QUICKLY WITHOUT LOSING INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. SO THAT'S SOME DATA THAT I CAN PULL FROM YOU FOR YOU, IN REGARDS TO THE FEEDBACK AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT OTHER DISTRICTS, AGAIN, VERY DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT A 1 TO 1 CORRELATION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR THAT OUR GOAL AND WE MAY FALL SHORT OF MEETING OUR GOAL IN THE BEGINNING, OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE ACADEMIC DISCOURSE AND ALLOW SOME STUDENT OWNERSHIP IN REGARDS TO COLLABORATING AND CONNECTING. AND SO I WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE TEAM TO GET YOU SOME DATA ON WHERE ARE WE NOW AND WHERE ARE WE FALLING SHORT AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO INCREASE THAT ACROSS THE DISTRICT? OKAY, SO NOW YOU JUST SPARKED ANOTHER QUESTION. AND SO WE PRESENTED EDUCATIONAL FLEXIBLE FURNITURE. HOW DOES THIS HOW ARE TEACHERS SOLD THIS.

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YEAH. BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, TEACHERS HAVE NEW FURNITURE. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FLEXIBLE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO USE THIS? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO USE THE WOBBLE CHAIR? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THIS? HOW ARE TEACHERS TRAINED IN THIS? RATHER THAN JUST, HEY, WE GOT NEW FURNITURE. WE THREW YOUR STUFF OUT, YOU HAVE TO USE IT. AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE BOUGHT THE FURNITURE. HOW ARE TEACHING? TEACHERS ARE GETTING THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT WITHIN THEIR INSTRUCTION. HOW ARE THEY'RE TAUGHT TO HOW TO USE IT. SO THAT'S A QUESTION YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PROVIDE IN A BOARD UPDATE. YEAH I MEAN THAT'S AN ANSWER YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE OKAY. THANK YOU DOCTOR GILLIAM. OKAY I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A FEW THINGS AND I DON'T NEED ANY PUSHBACK OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY SOME STUFF I, FIRST OF ALL, I'M THE OLD CHICK UP HERE, SO I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT I WANT TO ASK IS, HOW DID WE ROLL IT OUT? BECAUSE APPARENTLY SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE ROLLOUT, AND SO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD GO BACK AND ASK SOME TEACHERS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING JUST SOME ISSUES WITH IT, BECAUSE NORMALLY I GET FROM TEACHERS, AS A RETIRED PRINCIPAL IS THAT NEW THINGS ARE LIKE COOL. SO BUT I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY SAT IN THAT CHAIR THAT DAY. WHEN WERE WE THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL? AND I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS, I GOT DOWN. BUT GETTING UP IS KIND OF HARD, Y'ALL. BUT OF COURSE I'M NOT A LITTLE KID. SO REALLY, HOW DID WE ROLL IT OUT AND HOW DID HOW ARE WE HERE WITH ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. I WOULD LOVE TO GO NOW. AND JUST AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN I WANT TO FEEL THE GOOD STUFF BECAUSE I'M THINKING THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF OUT THERE, BEING IN DIFFERENT ON DIFFERENT CAMPUSES. I KNOW THAT WE REDID THE LIBRARY. WE HAD DIFFERENT IT WAS WE TOTALLY REDID IT. WHEN I WAS AT ONE PARTICULAR SCHOOL. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. ALSO IN THE LUNCHROOMS THERE, THE WAY THAT WE CAN GO, I REMEMBER GOING TO BUSH HIGH SCHOOL PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I WAS THERE, AND IT CHANGED AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT FEEL AND VIBE. SO I UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS AND BUT I'M WONDERING AGAIN, MY OPINION IS BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE TEACHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT FOR ME, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE OPENING IT UP AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE TEACHER, OF COURSE, TO BE COMFORTABLE. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT POSSIBLY CAN, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS ARE ENJOYING THE CLASSROOM OR WHAT HAVE YOU. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING AS FAR AS GETTING SOME TYPE OF SURVEY. YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST TEN TEACHERS TO COME OUT, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND, AND FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT IT SO WE CAN REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING? BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL HAVE A PERCEPTION.

AND MY PERCEPTION WAS THAT ONE DAY AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME THAT I HAVE SEEN, I KNOW

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BECAUSE IF A TEACHER IS WALKING INTO A CLASSROOM, I'LL SAY THIS. AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S NOT THAT DOESN'T HELP. YOU KNOW, THE IT'S TOO HARD. BUT LIKE I SAID, APPARENTLY I MISSED SOMETHING. AND I BELIEVE THE, THE GOAL IS SO THAT THE STUDENTS CAN DO BETTER. SO CAN WE CHECK THAT OUT TO SEE IF THAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT WITHIN A WEEK, I THINK. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, SINCE THIS IS THE END OF OUR NIGHT, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY. SO I'M GOING TO SAY A FEW THINGS AND MAYBE JUST THROW SOME THINGS OUT THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO INFORMATION TO BRING BACK TO US. BECAUSE I HEARD COMMUNICATION. WE CAN DO BETTER AT ROLLOUT. WE CAN DO BETTER AT, MAYBE SOME TRAINING. AND MAYBE THAT JUST HAS TO DO WITH 21ST CENTURY LEARNING AND HOW TO AND MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR TEACHERS UNDERSTAND WHY THAT FURNITURE IS THERE. BUT HERE'S A COUPLE COMMENTS I'LL MAKE, AND I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT OFF OF WHAT DOCTOR GILLIAM SAID. SO WHEN THIS GOT ROLLED OUT IN 2019 AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN 2018, THE PURPOSE WAS TO ALLOW FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY IN THE CLASSROOM AND TO ALLOW FOR THE FURNITURE TO BE A TOOL IN LEARNING. SO TEACHERS WERE CREATING THESE SMALL GROUPS IN THEIR CLASSROOMS, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ROTATED THROUGH. AND THE POINT WAS TO GIVE THE TEACHERS THE TOOL SO THAT THEY COULD MANAGE BEHAVIORS BETTER IN THEIR CLASSROOM, PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN SEATING, AND YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT WHERE SPECIAL ED IS GOING. WE'RE AT ALMOST 14%. THAT'S HIGH, WHEN I WAS ELECTED THE FIRST TIME, IT WAS SIX. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS WHO NEED MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE CLASSROOM, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT FURNITURE IS ACTUALLY MEETING THE NEEDS, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE POINT, WAS TO MEET THE NEEDS THAT WERE IN THE CLASSROOMS. SO HERE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. BECAUSE BECAUSE I THINK WE DID FIND THAT THESE FURNITURE THAT THE FLEXIBILITY IN SEATING, IN FACT, SOME OF OUR, OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE BEHAVIORAL MANAGEMENT PLANS THAT HAVE IT IN THERE. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME 500 FOURS THAT HAS SOME OF THAT IN THERE, STAND UP DESKS. WE HAD STUDENTS COME AND ACTUALLY SPEAK TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED WE NEED THIS FLEXIBILITY. SO MY QUESTIONS AR, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT TEACHER PREFERENCES WHILE ALSO ALLOWING FOR STUDENT CHOICE? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MANAGE BOTH. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DO BOTH. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T CAUSING TEACHERS PROBLEMS IN THE CLASSROOM WHILE STILL ALLOWING FOR, I THINK, THE FLEXIBILITY.

SO I'M THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION. I'M GOING TO THROWING THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. AND I SHARE THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S MAKING THE DECISION THAT IT'S OUT WITH THE OLD AND WE'RE THROWING EVERYTHING OUT TO BRING IN THE NEW, BECAUSE WHEN WE PASS THESE ED SPECS LIKE I SAID, IT WAS TO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TOOL. SO IF A TEACHER SAYS, HEY, I REALLY NEED THIS SHABBY OLD SOFA THAT I'VE BEEN USING FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS, IT WORKS GREAT FOR THE KIDS OR IN THEIR EXPERIENCE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT'S THE DISCONNECT TO ME IS WHO'S SAYING TO A TEACHER YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF THIS AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO USE, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I VOTED FOR THOSE ED SPECS THAT WASN'T MY UNDERSTANDING. IT'S NOT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE NEW AND WE WANTED

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YOU KNOW, THAN MAYBE WHAT WHAT I, WHAT I KNOW NOW. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. AND A PERSPECTIVE TO HAVE OUT THERE, WE RECEIVE ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL SHARED WITH US. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE MAJOR AREAS THAT THAT YOU ADDRESSED, THE ONLY LAST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS IN REFERENCE TO ALL OF THE BOND INFORMATION I WANT TO WE WORKED REALLY HARD THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND I WANT TO I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THE INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR YOU AND THE DETAIL, THOROUGH MANNER IN WHICH THEY DID, BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE DEPTH OF INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE A VERY TOUGH DECISION. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORT IN PUTTING THE INFORMATION AND REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE AND EXPLAIN THINGS TO THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A HARD DECISION AND OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO HELP GUIDE THAT DECISION MAKING. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.

YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, DOCTOR SMITH. BECAUSE I WANT TO ECHO THAT. AND, THE MATERIALS THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDED, THE DECK THAT YOU GUYS PUT TOGETHER, I PERSONALLY AM A FAN OF THE WORKSHEET BECAUSE IT HELPS ME FOCUS AND LISTEN AND, AND WRITE THINGS DOWN. AND WHEN I CAN WRITE THINGS DOWN, I LEARN BETTER. SO THANKS TO THE TEAM, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB TONIGHT AND ANSWERING ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. AND, SO WE JUST WE THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER. GO AHEAD. I KNOW, GO AHEAD. I MOVE TO ADJOURN SECOND, SECOND. ONE OF THE BEST QUARTERBACKS IN TEXAS IS PLAYING RIGHT OUTSIDE

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