Apr 08, 2024 Special Called Meeting

IS ABLE TO HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, OFFICER WALTON. THE TIME IS SIX O'CLOCK

[1. Call to order]

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[2. Recognitions]

FOR OUR NEXT RECOGNITION. WE ARE RECOGNIZING FOR AN ISD HOUSTON LIVESTOCK SHOW AND RODEO ART CONTEST WINNERS, SEVERAL FOR PENN ISD ART STUDENTS WON AWARDS AT THE HOUSTON LIVESTOCK SHOW AND RODEO CARD CONTEST. QUICK DRAW. HIGH SCHOOL CLASS CHAMPION IS JESSICA SMITH FROM AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL. ART TEACHER SHEILA SHEIKH. ART TEACHER SHEILA SHEIKH.

OUR NEXT AWARD WINNER IS QUICK DRAW. MIDDLE SCHOOL CLASS CHAMPION NIALL COHOS BOWIE, MIDDLE SCHOOL ART TEACHER. OUR TEACHER BRITTANY BENNETT. AND UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING.

SPECIAL NEEDS DIVISION BEST IN SHOW, LILIANA ORTIZ CRAWFORD HIGH SCHOOL ART TEACHER, KIMBERLY SINK. WE'RE READY FOR THE PHOTO. YOU CAN HAVE A CAMERA. 321 YOU TO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. THIS CONCLUDES OUR RECOGNITION FOR THIS EVENING.

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[4. Public Comment]

BUT DUE TO THE POLICY AND THIS IS WORKSHOP. WHERE WE CAN LET EVERYONE SPEAK IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT II I APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING. AND YOU ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME BACK. SO I'M GONNA MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO, UM TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO WE'LL START WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A SEVEN SPEAKERS. UM THE BOARD ENCOURAGES AND WELCOMES COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM OUR PATRONS. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. AND PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MENTIONING A STUDENT OR EMPLOYEE'S NAME WHEN VOICING A CONCERN OR COMPLAINT AS BOARD POLICY PROVIDES ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES THROUGH THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS POLICY GF LOCAL OR G GB, A LOCAL IN ORDER TO SEEK RESOLUTION TO COMPLAINTS. I WILL READ THE NAME OF A PERSON REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND SHARE THAT THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.

ONCE THE SPEAKER STARTS THEIR COMMENTS, THE BOARD SECRETARY, MR DAVID HAMILTON, WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN THEY HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING. ONCE THE THREE MINUTES TIME LIMIT HAS EXPIRED, AND WHETHER THE SPEAKER HAS CONCLUDE THEIR COMMENTS. MR HAMILTON WILL ANNOUNCE THAT THEIR SPEAKERS NOT TIME HAS ELAPSED AND THEN I WILL ASK YOU TO RETURN TO YOUR SEAT. SO I'M GONNA CALL TONIGHT'S FIRST SPEAKER. IT'S SHANNON WOODS. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. IN THE LIBRARY AND IT INFORMATION STATED ABOUT LIBRARIES RECENTLY. I WANTED TO COME SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL SCHOOL LIBRARIANS ARE PROFESSIONALLY DEGREED EDUCATORS. WE MUST HAVE AT LEAST TWO YEARS CLASSROOM EXPERIENCE, PLUS A MASTERS MASTERS DEGREE TO HOLD A POSITION IN THE DISTRICT MIDDLE SCHOOL COHORT ALONE.

THERE ARE OVER 19 PROFESSIONAL DEGREES AND MORE THAN 320 YEARS OF EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE. WE USE THIS EXPERTISE TO HELP DEVELOP AND SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS , STAFF AND COMMUNITIES IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. PART OF THE REASON I AM PROUD TO CALL MYSELF AN FBI IS THE LIBRARIAN IS BECAUSE OF WHO I STAND WITH. WE WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO HELP OUR STUDENTS LEAVE OUR SCHOOLS, BETTER HUMANS. WE DO THIS THROUGH DOZENS OF DIFFERENT AVENUES. FROM TECHNOLOGY LESSONS TEACHING TYPING TO CREATING ROBOTS WITH 3D PRINTING. TO EDUCATIONAL LESSONS, LIKE ETHICAL AND ACCURATE RESEARCH OR HOW TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN A BUDGET. AND CREATIVE AVENUES USING MAKER SPACES TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES THROUGH ART OR TO CREATE OUT OF THE BOX THINKING FOR BUILDING SOMETHING NEW. AND OF COURSE WE ARE THE STORAGE PLACE OF STORIES CURATING BOOK COLLECTIONS THAT ARE AGE APPROPRIATE TO OUR SCHOOLS AND AS MULTIFACETED AS MANY AS THE MANY COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. WHY WE MATTER IS BECAUSE WE ARE THE SILENT BACKBONE OF OUR CAMPUSES.

WE TRAIN TEACHERS AND HELP THEM DEVELOP LESSONS AND SUPPORTS BASED ON CURRICULUM. WE HELP ADMINISTRATIONS BY QUICKLY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, MANAGING TECHNOLOGY AND CHANGING AT LEAST 1440 PASSWORDS A YEAR. THEN. BUT MOSTLY WE HELP STUDENTS. WE HELP THEM FIND THEMSELVES IN STORIES SO THEY DON'T FEEL ALONE. WE STRENGTHEN THEIR CONFIDENCES BY SHOWING WHAT THEY CAN DO INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY CAN'T. AND WE GIVE THEM RESOURCES FOR TOUGH QUESTIONS, SHOULDERS TO CRY ON AND SOMETIMES FURNITURE FOR SLEEPING AFTER NIGHTS FOR CARING FOR A SICK PARENT. THE BEST PART OF ANY LIBRARY IS THAT Y'ALL MEANS ALL OH, PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTED IN OUR LIBRARIES. I

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AND NEXT WE HAVE, UH TAMMY MORENO. GOOD EVENING. TRUSTEES DOCTOR SMITH, ETM AND STAFF WHO ARE HERE ARE WATCHING AT HOME. MY NAME IS TAMMY MARINO AND I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN FORT BEND SINCE 2008. AND SOME MAY BE SAD TO HEAR US STAY ENGAGED UNTIL AT LEAST 2029 WHEN MY YOUNGEST WILL GRADUATE FROM CLEMENS, JUST LIKE MY OLDER THREE. I NEVER DREAMED WE'D WATCH A MAN WHO NOT ONLY DOESN'T LIVE HERE BUT WHO TAKES MONEY FOR CREATING CHAOS IN SCHOOL BOARDROOMS COMING TO THIS BOARDROOM AND DEMAND ACTION AGAINST OUR LIBRARIANS, SOME OF OUR MOST BELOVED STAFF. THIS WAS ALL ORCHESTRATED BY ONE PERSON WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO OUR HARD WORKING STAFF, DESPITE THE FACT THAT OUR PROFILE OF A GRADUATE PREACHES COLLABORATION, COMMUNICATION, HUMILITY AND KINDNESS, AND NOW WE'RE SEEING PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES THAT WOULD NOT ONLY CUT LIBRARIANS AND CLASSROOM TEACHERS COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BOOK PURCHAS. REMOVAL PROCESS, BUT ONE THAT WOULD GIVE ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT SOLE DISCRETION A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO SET. REMEMBER THAT PART ABOUT COLLABORATION. BUT

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ALL SECONDARY LIBRARIANS RECENTLY SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AUDITING ALL OF THEIR GRAPHIC NOVELS, BOOKS THAT HAVE COMIC LIKE ILLUSTRATIONS THAT WAS COMPLETED THIS PAST THANKSGIVING. ONE LIBRARIAN HAD TO GET THROUGH 800 GRAPHIC NOVELS IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

IMAGINE IF OUR SUPERINTENDENT HAD TO DO THAT FOR NOT ONE LIBRARY. BUT ALL I'M NOW GONNA SHARE QUOTES COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHARED ABOUT SOME OF OUR CAMPUS LIBRARIANS, WILLOW RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL. FROM SHOWING OUR RELUCTANT READERS BOOKS THEY CAN CHECK OUT TO ASSISTING TEACHERS WITH LITERACY LESSONS. PROCTORING TESTS ACCOMMODATING CLASSES LAST MINUTE WE WOULD BE LOST WITHOUT HER. RIDGE POINT GIVES AMAZING BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THEY KNOW EXACTLY THE RIGHT READ FOR EACH STUDENT. CLEMENTS YOUR KINDNESS AND COMPASSION ARE ALWAYS APPRECIATED. SOME STUDENTS WOULDN'T EVEN COME TO SCHOOL. WERE IT NOT FOR YOUR LIBRARY? PECAN GROVE DOES SO MUCH TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND LEARNING AND INSTILLS THE LOVE OF READING CODING AND TECHNOLOGY SAR TARSHA MY KIDS. MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPERIENCE WAS SO MUCH BETTER, SAFER AND WARMER BECAUSE OF YOU IN THAT LIBRARY. THANK YOU FOR MAKING SO MANY KIDS FEEL SEEN. AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. IF I DIDN'T NAME YOUR SCHOOL, IT'S BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOUR JOBS ARE HUGE. YOUR STUDENTS ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU I CANNOT FOR A SINGLE MOMENT. IMAGINE ONE PERSON TAKING OVER ALL OF THE DUE DILIGENCE AND LOVE YOU PUT INTO YOUR SHELVES. THANK YOU. WE SUPPORT YOU AND WE BELIEVE IN YOU. KEEP MAKING MAGIC HAPPEN FOR OUR KIDS.

COMING TONIGHT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. GOOD EVENING BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND DOCTOR SMITH. DOCTOR SMITH. WE HAVE NOT MET YET. SO LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS ALISON MORRIS AND I AM THE MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN. MY OLDEST ATTENDS RIDGE POINT HIGH SCHOOL. SHE'S HERE TONIGHT. AND MY YOUNGEST NOW ATTENDS THE HONOR ROLL SCHOOL AS I GREW EXHAUSTED FROM THE SPECIAL EDUCATION POLICIES AND DISCIPLINE POLICIES THAT DO NOT PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AS WE THINK THEY DO. I'M AN ADVOCATE AND EDUCATOR, A VOLUNTEER AND A PASSIONATE MOTHER WHO WILL ALWAYS STAND FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT. I AM HERE. NOT TO ATTACK MISS JONES OR MR HAMILTON . IN FACT, I HAVE RESPECT FOR ALL SEVEN OF YOU AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. YOU HAVE EACH HELPED MY CHILDREN NAVIGATE FBI SD. I FIRMLY BELIEVE ALL SEVEN OF YOU SIT ON THE DAIS BECAUSE YOU GENUINELY WANT TO HELP OUR STUDENTS AND THAT YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF FBI SD. AT TIMES. I MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU. BUT THAT DOES NOT DISCOUNT MY BELIEF THAT YOU ALL CARE ABOUT EDUCATION. I DO HAVE THE SAME END GOAL AS ALL SEVEN OF YOU, BUT HOW WE ACHIEVE THAT. COME DIFFERS IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BOOK POLICY. I DO NOT AGREE, BUT I UNDERSTAND MR HAMILTON AND MS JONES VIEWPOINT OF WANTING TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. I APPRECIATE THEIR PASSION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BELIEVE THESE SAFEGUARDS ARE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE 80,000 STUDENTS WE SERVE. EVEN WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE SUPERINTENDENT HAVING SOLE AUTHORITY. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. I UNDERSTAND THE VERBIAGE ALLOWS THE SUPERINTEND TO CONVENE A COMMITTEE THAT IS NOT MANDATED. THE PROPOSED POLICY GIVES THE SUPERINTENDENT THE POWER TO CHOOSE FOR ALL. WE PRESENTLY HAVE A FORMAL CHALLENGE PROCESS THAT INCLUDES A COMMITTEE, A GROUP OF PEOPLE IF THE TRUSTEES NO LONGER BELIEVE THE PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE SUFFICIENT BECAUSE THEY ARE WICKED WOKE, THEN FIRST APOLOGIZE FOR ALLOWING SUCH VITRIOL TOWARDS YOUR LIBRARIANS AND SECOND CHANGE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY THE COMMITTEE.

WE COULD ASK CENTRAL ADMIN EMPLOYEES TO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE. I'M SURE LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT. THEY HAVE AMPLE TIME TO DEAL WITH DUST COLLECTING BOOKS. NO ONE EVEN KNEW EXISTED UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO. EMPLOYEES THAT COULD REPRESENT THE SUPERINTENDENT IN A COMMITTEE MELISSA HUBBARD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TEACHING AND LEARNING, LINDA CORBIN, DIRECTOR OF LITERACY TO MAKE A BROWN FROM LIBRARY SERVICES, PILAR WESTBROOK AND JENNIFER CHADWICK FROM SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL LEARNING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ABOUT A CAMPUS LIBRARIAN. THE PEOPLE WE HIRE TO DEVELOP AND A LIBRARIAN COLLECTION 30 SECONDS. FBI IS THE EMPLOYS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SERVES 80,000 STUDENTS YET I'M SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT ONE PERSON DECIDES WHAT SITS IN THE LIBRARY. NO THANK YOU. OUR STUDENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND COLLABORATE WITH GROUPS. YET THIS POLICY WILL TEACH THEM COLLABORATION IS USELESS AND A SOLE OPINION IS ONLY WHAT MATTERS. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE

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AND THIS YEAR I BECAME OVERWHELMED WITH SCHOOL FRIENDS, BOYS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. HOWEVER BOOKS DID NOT PLAY A ROLE IN CONTRIBUTING TO MY STRUGGLES. IF ANYTHING, THE BOOKS HELPED IN SOME OF THE BOOKS BEING REMOVED. I CAN SEE GLIMPSES OF MYSELF. THESE BOOKS HAVE ALLOWED ME SELF REFLECTION, A VIEW OF WHAT I COULD BECOME AND HOW TO START HELPING MYSELF. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE BOOK TRAFFICKED BY ELLEN HOPKINS, ONE OF THE CHARACTERS IN THE BOOK STRUGGLES TO STRUGGLES WITH FEELING LIKE SHE IS IN HER SISTER'S SHADOW AND TURNS AWAY FROM HER FAMILY. I RELATED TO THAT FEELING, AND INSTEAD OF TURNING TO MY PARENTS , THE TWO PEOPLE WHO LOVE AND SUPPORT ME, I BLOCK THEM OUT JUST LIKE THE CHARACTER. BUT THAT BOOK HELPED OPEN MY EYES AND SHOW ME I SHOULD ALWAYS TURN TO MY PARENTS AND TO NEVER RUN AWAY AND SUFFER A FATE. I WOULD NEVER WANT I'VE ALSO STRUGGLED WITH MY JEWISH IDENTITY. I'M A PROUD JEWISH GIRL, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO HAVE TO TEACH OTHERS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. THE BOOK NIGHT AND MOUSE ACCURATELY DISPLAY THE HORRORS OF THE HOLOCAUST AND HOW SEVERELY IT IMPACTED THE JEWISH PEOPLE BY REMOVING THESE BOOKS AND TAKING AWAY STUDENTS ACCESS TO LEARN YOU ALSO TAKE AWAY THE SAFETY AND ACCEPTANCE OF YOUR JEWISH STUDENTS. BOOKS IN THE LIBRARIES ARE TO EDUCATE AND INFORM CHILDREN. SOME OF THE TOPICS MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYONE BUT IS UNJUST TO LET ONE PERSON FILTER WHAT CAN BE. AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS. THE LIBRARIANS DESERVE A SAY, AND SHOULD BE TRUSTED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR STUDENTS. YOU HAVE LET THE PUBLIC SAY LIBRARIANS DON'T DO THEIR JOBS AND DON'T CARE. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE. MY MIDDLE SCHOOL LIBRARIAN HELPED ME THROUGH MANY TIMES AND IS ONE OF THE ONLY TRUSTED ADULTS I HAD IN THAT BUILDING. PLEASE ALLOW LIBRARIANS TO GET A SAY IN WHAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE SHELVES. THEY WERE HIRED FOR A REASON ALLOW THEIR VOICES TO BE HEARD. AND TO BE THE VOICES OF THEIR STUDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE RISK, COLIN. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. THANK YOU. OH, GOOD EVENING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND TO THE BOARD. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE STEADFAST. IN UM, BRINGING OUT THE QUALITY PRODUCT FOR BRID GATE ELEMENTARY. I DON'T WANT ANY CORNERS CUT UH, ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OUT. THAT REALLY SHOULD BE THERE. TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET ON BRIAN GATE. OK? UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WITH BRID GATE. THERE IS A DITCH. THAT IS A DRAINAGE TYPE DITCH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM. BUT IT IS SITUATED RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE FOR BRAGG, A CLUBHOUSE AND THE ANGLE OF THE DIRT THAT'S IN THAT AREA IS ANGLED TOWARDS BROAD GAY CLUBHOUSE. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT IF THAT OVERFLOWS THAT THAT'S GONNA CAUSE PROBLEM FOR OUR PRIMARY BUILDING IN THAT AREA, SO I SURE WISH IT WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. UM I WANT TO KNOW IF WHEN BRIER GATE REOPENS IN 2025. IF IT GETS TO OPEN, THEN IF IT'S GONNA BE A NEW NAME FOR THE SCHOOL. OR WILL IT BE BRIARGATE? AND WILL IT BE SOME COMBINATION OF BLUE RIDGE BARN GATE? SO THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE DO RIGHT BY OUR SCHOOL AND OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. AND NEXT WE HAVE A BOARD COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[3.A. Audit Committee]

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[3.B. Governance Committee]

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[5. Convene in closed session under Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code, Chapter 551 under the following sections: 551.071 - For the purpose of a private consultation with the Board's attorney on any or all subjects or matters authorized by law; Section 551.072 - Consider purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property, Section 551.074 - Personnel matters, Section 551.076 - Security matters, Section 551.082 - Student discipline matter or complaint, or Section 551.0821 - Personally identifiable information about public school student A. Deliberate E.A. Jones Elementary Principal recommendation B. Deliberate Malala Elementary School Principal recommendation C. Deliberate Walker Station Elementary School Principal recommendation D. Deliberate Clements High School Principal recommendation E. Deliberate Deputy Superintendent of Teaching and Learning recommendation F. Deliberate Deputy Superintendent of Operations recommendation G. Deliberate Director of Finance recommendation H. Deliberate to renew and award non-Chapter 21 employee contracts]

READY. LET ME 7:16 P.M. AND WE ARE NOW RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTIONS

[6. Reconvene in Open Session]

[7. Consider Action on Closed Session Items]

MOTION PASSES 70. DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, PLEASE? YES I MOVED. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED THE HIRING OF DON LAMB AS PRINCIPAL OF MALALA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS HANNAN SECOND BY DR GILLIAM. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? SEE NOW VOTE.

MOTION PASSES 70. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION FROM CLOSED SESSION? PLEASE YES, I MOVED. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED THE HIRING OF GREGORY GRANGER AS PRINCIPAL OF WALKER STATION ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR HAMILTON, SECOND BY DR GILLIAM.

DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? NOW PLEASE VOTE. OH, WELL. OH, CAN YOU CHECK YOUR VOTING LIST? THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 70. CAN I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, PLEASE? I MOVED THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED THE HIRING OF TARA BAKER AS PRINCIPAL OF CLEMENTS HIGH SCHOOL. MY SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS MALONE, SECOND BY DR GIDEON, DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? SAY NO, PLEASE VOTE.

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[8.A. Bond 2023 Update - April 2024]

GOOD EVENING. UH, THIS IS YOUR APRIL. FOR AN UPDATE AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR DAN BANK. GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES SUPERINTENDENT. UM I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE BOND PROGRAM. THINGS ARE MOVING VERY WELL AND I'M GLAD TO BRING THIS INFORMATION TO YOU TODAY. LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET VERSUS ESTIMATE CHART THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS. IF YOU REMEMBER WE STARTED AT A NUMBER AROUND 132 LOOKING AT SOME THINGS WE I HAVE ADJUSTED THAT NUMBER EVEN, UM, THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. UH, WE HAVE NOW, UH OF, UH AS OF MARCH BROUGHT THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 77.3. AND THAT'S THROUGH HARD WORK AND, UH, VALUE ENGINEERING AND SOME, UH, ROLLING UP SLEEVES AND GETTING THE JOB DONE. UH THE BIGGEST CHANGE YOU SAW, UH, THAT WE SAW WAS IN OUR RENOVATION PACKAGES, AND THAT'S THROUGH HAVING MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, DETAILED DRAWINGS, GETTING MORE INFORMATION FROM VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS. UH, WE'RE GETTING MORE ESTIMATES AND THE BIDDING MARKET IS STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BETTER FOR US. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE REFLECTED HERE. UM THEY AIN'T WANT TO SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SLIDE, UM DAN, JUST JUST ALLUDED TO FOR THIS MONTH. WE'RE DOWN TO 77.3 MILLION. THAT'S THE GAP.

UM, BUT YOU SEE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST THREE MONTHS. UH, THE NUMBER YOU'LL SEE FOR FEBRUARY IS A, UH, DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBER THAT WAS PRESENTED INITIALLY. UM AND THAT DIFFERENCE IS LIKE LAST MEETING. I REPORTED THAT WE'RE USING THE BOARD APPROVED NUMBERS . UH, THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT WE WILL, UH, USE CONTINUALLY, AND WE WILL ALWAYS USE THOSE MOVING FORWARD, SO WE HAD TO READJUST. INITIAL REPORT. UH SO WE STARTED. AT ABOUT 163 LAST MONTH ONE AND THREE AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 77.3. SO THAT'S THE SNAPSHOT AS OF TODAY, AND WE STILL HAVE,

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EVEN JUST TODAY I HAD ONE OF THEIR WORKERS. UM HAD TO BE OUT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD DUE TO SOME FAMILY ISSUES. IMMEDIATELY I JUST CALLED AND SAID OK, SEND SOMEBODY ELSE OVER. WE NEED THE SUPPORT. UH, BRING THEM IN AND SO I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND THAT QUICKLY WITHOUT THE HELP OF THE THEIR GROUP. UH, THERE'S NO LEARNING CURVE WITH THE JACOBS PEOPLE. ALSO THEY HELPED US IN TERMS OF OUR BOND SAFETY PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES THE DISTRICT A CERTAIN, UH, PROTECTION IN TERMS OF LIABILITY AND RISK HAVING AN OUTSIDE PARTY. UH, PROVIDE THAT SAFETY AND, UH, THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE K 12 EXPERIENCE. THEY'RE INVOLVED IN OTHER K 12 PROGRAMS, AND SO THEY BRING A RESOURCE OF INFORMATION TO US AND SOME SHARED INFORMATION FROM OTHER AREAS. UH, BEING A PART OF THAT. AND OF COURSE, THEY PERFORM ALL OF OUR BOND, ACCOUNTING AND CONTROLS. UH, MOSTLY, IS THE JACOBS PEOPLE AND THEY HELPED US GET OUR PROJECT INFORMATION SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, AND THEY MAINTAIN THE DASHBOARD AND THAT'S ALLOWED US TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT. IN OPEN AND GIVE A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR BOND PROGRAM, SO THEY PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN MY OPINION TO FOR US AND REALLY HELP US, UM, BE EFFECTIVE IN THIS PROGRAM. JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR, UH, STAFFING. WE HAVE, UH, BEEN SINCE LAST TIME I TALKED TO YOU. WE'VE BEEN STEADILY INTERVIEWING AND GOT SOME GOOD PEOPLE AND SOME, UH, WE'VE ALREADY EXTENDING SOME OFFERS. UH TO A COUPLE OF FOLKS AND, UH, INTERVIEWING WILL CONTINUE. UH, WE'RE STILL SEEING A REALLY GOOD HIGH LEVEL OF INTEREST. AND SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE OUR STAFF ROUNDED OUT BY OUR EARLY MAY GOAL THAT I HAD SAID WE SHOULD HAVE THAT ROUNDED OUT AND BE ABLE TO GO INTO OUR SUMMER AND FALL FULLY STAFFED.

JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS. THE UH BRADGATE PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING TO YOU, UH, AS A PART OF THE APRIL, UH, BOND AGENDA. UM A BUDGET OF COURSE, 48.2 MILLION.

ALMOST 48.3 MILLION. UH, CONSTRUCTION IS ALREADY STARTED ON THAT PROJECT. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON EARTHWORK AND REALLY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT. IN TERMS OF GETTING THE SITE READY FOR A FOUNDATION WORK AND GETTING THE PROJECT STARTED. UH I DID SOME OF THE MATERIAL ORDERING FOR THOSE LONG LEAD ITEMS. UM HAVE GOOD SUCCESS WITH VALUE ENGINEERING. I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS GOING ON. WE WORKING WITH CENTER POINT. IN FACT, I'M GONNA BE MEETING WITH THEM WEDNESDAY TO TRY TO GET SOME SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY IN THIS PROJECT BUT SOME OTHER PROJECTS. AND SO THERE BEING A GOOD PARTNER WITH US, AND HOPEFULLY I'LL COME WITH SOME SOLUTIONS. UH, BARRINGTON PLACE? I HAVE JUST GOT A CHANCE TO VISIT THAT. IT'S LOOKING GREAT. UH, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO OPEN THAT IN MAY. UH, WE HAVE A FEW CHALLENGES WITH THAT ONE MOISTURE IN THE FLOOR AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, BUT, UH, WE HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS FOR THAT.

AND SO IF YOU GO BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF WORK ALREADY DONE. THEY STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE ADDITION. BUT UH, THAT PROJECT IS IN GOOD SHAPE, AND WE'LL SEE THAT OPENING AND BE READY TO BRING STUDENTS BACK SOON. MHM. YEAH. OK, UH, FOR TONIGHT. AND FOR APPROVAL AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. WE'LL HAVE BROAD GATE GMP, UH TWO AND THEN JUNE FERNDALE HEN HENRY RENOVATIONS, MIDDLE SCHOOL 16. UH, THE ROOFING PACKAGE. AND CLEMENTS GMP ONE. IN JULY FAD UPGRADES AND DALLAS RENOVATIONS. MHM. YOU YOU NOTICED THE CLEMENTS HAS MOVED FORWARD, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SUMMER FOR THE DEMOLITION WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHILE THE STUDENTS ARE AWAY. AND SO WE'VE MOVED THAT ONE FORWARD FROM WHAT YOU SAW LAST TIME. MHM. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THE PRESENTATION, DOCTOR SMITH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO

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THOSE SPOTS, AS WERE WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN SOME OF THOSE ROLES AND FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

UH, THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS. HAVE UH, RECEIVED THE OPPORTUNITIES AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. I WAS ONLY ONLY CURIOUS BECAUSE AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY JACOB'S FOLKS. I IMAGINE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS POSITION. SOME OF THEM WERE FOR BEN. OH, THEY WERE OK. OK PEOPLE AS WELL. IF YOU COULD. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW OF THE 11 POSITIONS. WHAT THAT TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT IS FOR THOSE 11 POSITIONS. THAT'S ALL COMING OUT OF IF IT'D BE OK, SO I DON'T GIVE YOU A FALSE NUMBER NOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE I'M JUST JUST FOR MY OWN PERSONAL NOTIFICATION. I I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW. UM WHAT THAT OVERALL LOOKS LIKE, AND THAT'S COMING OUT OF INS SO UM, THAT'S A INTERESTING TO ME. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS GARCIA, MISS MALONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR BANK. AS ALWAYS, UM APPRECIATE IT, AND I JUST WANNA POINT THIS OUT. SO IN TWO MONTHS REGARDING THE VALUE ENGINEERING, YOU'VE REDUCED COST OR YOU'VE REDUCED THE O. THE ESTIMATED OVERRUNS BY NEARLY 53% SO THAT IS IMPRESSIVE THAT IN 60

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BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL WAS THE PROPOSED BOND AND THIS 163. I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF I COULD, UH, GET THAT FORWARD FORWARD THAT TO YOU , IT'D BE OK. I DON'T HAVE THAT.

OK UM I'D APPRECIATE THAT. IF YOU GET THAT AND THEN JUST WHAT IS THE TYPICAL NUMBER THAT'S GOING ON, UM, RELATIVE TO THE INDUSTRY CURRENTLY FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THE OVERRUNS THEY HAD , AND THEY JUST HAD TO PASS AN ADDITIONAL BOND TO PAY FOR THE LAST BOND. PLUS THE UPCOMING PROJECTS. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE STANDARD RATE IS GOING ON.

WITH THE NEW CHANGES LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT NOW SOME, UM COSTS ARE COMING DOWN. I DON'T I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A STANDARD BUT I KNOW THERE ARE SOME OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE EXPE EXPERIENCING AS MUCH AS 30 35% OVERRUNS, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU KNOW IN OUR RANGE. AS WELL. UM, SO THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF STICKER SHOCK OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT, I. I WOULD APPRECIATE JUST KNOWING WHERE WE'RE AT RELATIVE TO THE INDUSTRY.

CURRENTLY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE. UM FIRST I. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING TO ME THE ROLE FOR JACOBS AND I. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO FIRST I WANNA START WITH CLEMENTS. UM SO I DO. SEE FROM FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL. SO COMMENTS NUMBER? ACTUALLY, IT WENT UP. UM I JUST WANNA KNOW IF ANYONE CAN ELABORATE ON THAT. MHM. BECAUSE A LOT OF PROJECTS THEIR NUMBERS WENT DOWN, BUT CLIMATES WENT UP.

THE CLEMENS NUMBER. THE INITIAL NUMBER IN FEBRUARY WAS A VERY PRELIMINARY BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND DRAWINGS. THE ARCHITECT. UH AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON THAT PROJECT. THE TEAM HAS HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, GO FURTHER DETAIL ON THAT PROJECT AND LOOK AT IT IN A CLOSER AND SO THEIR ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT, UH, WENT UP. AS A RESULT OF THEM LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS CLOSER. AND LOOKING AT THE, UH, DESIGN OF THE PROJECT CLOSER NOW WE THINK THAT'LL COME IN THE OTHER TO GO IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AS WE GET TOWARD THE FINAL PHASES OF DRAWING SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH BUT IF WE DO THINK IT'LL COME DOWN, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO TO BE HONEST, I WANTED TO, UH, PIGGYBACK ON DOCTOR SMITH'S COMMENT, SO SOMETIME NUMBER GOING UP AND DOWN. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE CUTTING CORNERS OR WE'RE JUST TO TRY TO BRING DOWN THE NUMBER AND WAY. THAT'S OUR GOAL. THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE CAPACITY FOR CAR CAMP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ME THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW. BUT IF YOU CAN FIRM. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THE DESIGN CAPACITY HAVE IT BEEN CHANGED SINCE WE APPROVED OK. NO, IT HAS NOT. IT HAS NOT. OK THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND MY SECOND QUESTION GOES TO THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. UM I APPRECIATE, UH, MR GARCIA'S QUESTIONS. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING TO THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE CONSULTANT AND OUR INTERNAL STAFF. SO I, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE DO NEED SOME EXPERTS RIGHT FROM FROM OUTSIDE, HELPING US. BUT DO WE HAVE LIKE A PLAN? ALL THIS IS OUR THE ORGANIZATION CHART YOU PRESENTED. IS THAT OUR END GAME? THAT'S THE GOAL. THAT'S HOW WE WANNA BALANCE BETWEEN THE CONSULTANT AND THE INTERNAL STAFFING OR IT'S JUST THE FIRST. STOP. I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS IT WOULD BE A FIRST STEP. UH, AS THE PROGRAM GROWS AND GETS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ITS FULL PEAK. WE'LL BE CONTINUALLY LOOKING AT THE STAFFING. UH, BUT AS YOU SEE, NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THE JACOB STAFFING IS PART OF OUR PROJECT CONTROLS TEAM. UH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT GROUP IS YOU KNOW MORE, UH, FORT BEND ISD AS IT STANDS NOW, AND THAT WILL GROW

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WANNA ASK, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT I. I JUST WANNA CONFIRM BECAUSE BECAUSE THESE FOLKS HAVE HAD TO MOVE. RIGHT UH, NOT NOT OUT OF THEIR DESIRE TO MOVE BUT BECAUSE OF NECESSITY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, SO I JUST WANNA I WANNA ASK, YOU KNOW, DO WE BUILD IN AN EXTRA DAY OR TWO FOR THEM TO MOVE BACK? UM OR THEY, YOU KNOW, II. I HOPE WE ARE NOT EXPECTING THEM TO HAVE TO MOVE EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN.

AND I'M ASSUMING FACILITIES WILL HELP, UM, THAT THAT PROCESS ALSO UM, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD, UM UH, YOU KNOW, AND I, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE UH, HOW? HOW THAT YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKED OUT FOR BARRINGTON PLACE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS HANNAN. THANK YOU, I. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT WILL CONCLUDE THIS PART OF THE INFORMATION PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, DOCTOR SMITH. AND NOW WE'RE COMING TO THE REVIEW

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THANK YOU, MS MALONE. UM I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION TO JUST TO CLARIFY. SO WHEN WE PUT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS OR SCHOOLS ON THIS LIST, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME ON A HIGHER LEVEL? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY? I'M GONNA ASK FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE TEAM. UH, BUT BUT VERY HIGH LEVEL. UH, THEY THEY GO OUT AND DO SURVEYS. UM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE FROM BEHIND THE DESK. UH, WE ACTUALLY GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE, UM ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS OR THEIR SIDEWALKS AVAILABLE. IS IT A DOES A SAFE ROUTE EXIST FROM THE HOMES TO THE SCHOOL, SO IT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE REMOTELY. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME OUT IN THE FIELD, VALIDATING, UH, THE CONDITIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU. JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE USE A FORM. THAT IS A TE A FORM THAT THAT WE GO THROUGH, AND IT HAS DIFFERENT BOXES THAT WE CHECK AND THAT'S HOW WE SCORE. EACH ROUTE TO SCHOOL AND FROM SCHOOL. UH AND WE WILL DO IT FROM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IN THAT AREA. THAT'S DIFFERENT, SO IT COULD. ONE SCHOOL COULD HAVE 10 EVALUATIONS. GOING TO THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE WANNA CATCH IT FROM EVERY DIRECTION. WE DRIVE. WE TAKE PHOTOS. I IT IT'S A PRETTY INTENSE SO I TRULY, TO BE HONEST , I REALLY GLAD TO KNOW WE HAVE THIS INTENSIVE PROCESS RIGHT SO BUT ONCE THOSE INTERSECTIONS ARE

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SOMETIMES IT CALLS FOR A CROSSING GUARD. TO HELP THEM GET ACROSS. IF IT'S A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION, THEY HAVE A BUTTON THAT THEY PUSH THAT THEY CAN CROSS. BUT FOR INSTANCE, AT FORT SETTLEMENT, THERE'S A CROSSING GUARD AT A CONTROLLED UM, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BUSY INTERSECTION, ATTIC AND CONTROLLED INTERSECTION. SO THE STUDENTS WE MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE TO CROSS A BUSY STREET THERE IS, YOU KNOW THE WHITE LINES, THERE IS A SAFE PATH FOR THEM TO CROSS. AND AS I SAID, PICTURE AFTER PICTURE, WE ALL SIT AT AND LOOK AT IT. IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON THAT LOOKS AT THIS. IT IS A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT AND WE USE THE GUIDELINE OF THE TE A AND IT'S LIKE IT'S YOU KNOW, 100 POINTS IF THEY HAVE TO CROSS AN INTERSECTION THAT'S NOT CONTROLLED. IT'S 50 POINTS. IF THEY CROSS AN INTERSECTION, THEN YOU TAKE IT AND THERE'S A MULTIPLIER. OF WHAT? FOR EACH GRADE LEVEL. EACH SCHOOL.

THERE'S A MULTIPLIER THAT YOU MULTIPLY THAT OUT IF IT IF THE SCORE COMES BACK UNDER 5/500, THAT MEANS IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR TRANSPORTATION. BELOW OUR 451 TO 499 IS IN THE GRAY. AND BELOW 450 IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING US AND, UH, THE I MEAN, I. I REALLY APPRECIATE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN COUPLE OF YEARS. I THINK, QUITE VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT INTERSECTION UH, MULTIPLE TIMES IT'S BROUGHT TO US OUR ATTENTION . IT'S QUITE A IT'S A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION, SO I REALLY HOPE WE CAN HELP THOSE FAMILIES TO MAKE SURE THEIR CHILDREN ARE SAFE. WHICH INTERSECTION I MEAN QUALL VALLEY. I THINK THAT THESE ARE THE I THINK MISS M MENTIONED THAT INTERSECTION ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON 1092 COMING ACROSS WE THAT WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE KIDS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS VERIFYING BECAUSE SOME KID RECENTLY AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. DOES THAT COVER SO? YES WE DO THOSE CROSSING OVER THE STREET IF THEY CROSS OVER 1092 FROM THE SCHOOL. WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE STUDENTS. IF THEY'RE CROSSING THEIR THAT'S THEIR CHOICE TO COME TO SCHOOL THAT WAY. SO WE DO HAVE BUSES OVER THERE. SO I. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT 100% SURE THE CONCERNS BROUGHT TO ME. IT'S THAT INTERSECTION, BUT I WILL CLARIFY WITH YOU ALL. JUST LET ME KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS. SO WE CAN LOOK AND SEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY

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OK, SO, UM CAN YOU CLARIFY? OH, I THOUGHT WE HAD A I THOUGHT WE WERE ADDING A 0.5 ELEMENTARY.

WHERE DID I GET THAT IN MY MIND? WERE WE ADDING 2.5. ELEMENTARY OR JUST. PLEASE REMIND ME WHAT ARE THESE TWO ESLT? ESL TEACHERS. THEY ARE TEACHERS OF RECORD AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL.

OK MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL. THEY SERVICE OUR BEGINNER AND INTERMEDIATE STUDENTS IN PLACE OF THEIR SO THEY PROVIDE DIRECT INSTRUCTIONS TO OUR STUDENTS. OK I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WAS THINKING THAT I SAW THAT THERE WERE 2.5 ELEMENTARY POSITIONS MOVING INTO A FULL FULL TIME POSITION. OK? NEVER MIND. WE WILL GET YOU THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS. SORRY YOU COULDN'T OPEN THOSE ATTACHMENT AND YOU DON'T NEED I DON'T NEED THEM NOW. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T COACHING POSITIONS, INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES THAT THAT THEY WERE SERVING STUDENTS DIRECTLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNAH. MR GARCIA. THANK YOU. UM I HAVE A QUESTION. I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE. REGARDING IS IT REQUIRED FOR LIKE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LIKE CHOIR TEACHERS. IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT UNRELATED TO THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STABBING GUIDELINES. UM THE REASON WHY I ASK IS I HAVE HAD QUESTIONS FROM ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES ABOUT NOT BEING A BIT ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO HIRE A STEM TEACHER, AS OPPOSED TO

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DO WE HAVE STEM TEACHERS IN ELEMENTARY AT EVERY GRADE LEVEL? UH, NO, MA'AM. SO OUR MODEL RIGHT NOW IS THAT IF YOU REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, UM AS MR DREW WAS SAYING, I, I DON'T RECALL THE THAT NUMBER THAT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A STEM OUT CLASS. I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP, BUT WE DO HAVE. I BELIEVE FIVE OR SIX CAMPUSES, ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES THAT HAVE A STEM TEACHER? AND THEY SERVE IN THE OUTCLASS ROTATION. OK? BECAUSE I I'M THINKING ABOUT OUR THIRD GRADERS. AND HOW MANY THIRD GRADERS IN OUR SCHOOLS HAVE SCIENCE TEACHERS? SO EVERY SCHOOL HAS, UM, THE AUTONOMY TO KIND OF DESIGN THEIR MASTER SCHEDULE. UM THIRD GRADERS SHOULD BE RECEIVING INSTRUCTION DAILY IN MATH AND SCIENCE BY A CERTIFIED TEACHER. OK, BECAUSE AND THAT WOULD BE CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET TO FIFTH GRADE. AND THIS IS COMING FROM ITS SCIENCE TEACHER. THOSE FIFTH GRADERS HAVE TO THEIR TEST IT ALMOST THIRD GRADE TEACH AS WELL. SO IT'S I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR THIRD GRADERS NOT HAVING SCIENCE OR SCIENCE LAB OR ANY TYPE OF SCIENCE INSTRUCTION. AND GETTING IT ONLY IN FIFTH GRADE, SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE THEY. THEY THERE IS A DAILY OUT ALLOCATED MINUTES OF INSTRUCTION FOR KINDER THROUGH FIFTH GRADE FOR SCIENCE INSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND

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CAN YOU CLARIFY TO THE TO THE BOARD WHAT IS LEGALLY REQUIREMENT FOR THE FOR THE BOARD MEETING MINUTES. YES, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS SET FORTH IN THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE AND THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. IT REQUIRES MERELY THAT BOARDS CAN BOARD MINUTES CONTAIN A RECORD OF THE ACTION TAKEN BY THE BOARD. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? XN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WHICH IS ID. THIS IS ACTUALLY REGARDING TO PROOF

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THANK YOU, MR HAMILTON. SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WE'RE MOVING ON TO NEXT ITEM E, WHICH IS FOR

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[9.H. Policy EF (Local)]

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, UH, AS YOU WERE TALKING REFLECTING ON A MEETING THAT I HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AT SARA MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I MEET WITH, UH, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPALS BY FEEDER PATTERN. AND SO WE WERE MEETING WITH THE CLEMENTS FEEDER PATTERN THAT EVENING. AND WE WERE MEETING IN THE LIBRARY AND THE MEETING WENT REALLY LONG INTO THE EVENING. AND I NOTICED IN MY PERIPHERY. THERE WAS A LIBRARIAN OVER THERE AND SHE WAS JUST WORKING AWAY. AND SHE WAS STILL THERE WHEN OUR MEETING ENDED, AND YOU KNOW, IT REMINDED ME AS WE WERE GETTING IN THIS DISCUSSION. JUST HOW HARD WORKING AND COMMITTED THAT OUR LIBRARIANS ARE. UH, SHE NEVER BOTHERED US. UH I. I WAVED AS I LEFT. UH BUT I REMEMBER THAT EVENING AND, UM YOU KNOW ALL OUR BRANDS BRING, UH HIGH LEVEL OF EXPERTISE TO THE WORK

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THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, DR SMITH. UM, SO BEFORE I JUMP IN, UH, WITH MY COMMENTS, I WANNA CLARIFY TWO THINGS SO ONE, SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SO TRUSTEE HANNON AND TRUSTEE JONES, UH, BOTH RECEIVED THIS POLICY EARLY LAST WEEK SO THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE FEEDBACK . THEY COULD READ THE POLICY AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONVENE A POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING THE LAST TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I WAS TRAVELING FOR WORK, UM, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL. 20 I'M SORRY. APRIL 16 AND I WOULD BE OPEN IF, UH, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT TIME ON THE CALENDAR, AND IT WOULD BE THREE OF US ALREADY. I'D BE OPEN TO MAKING THAT A WORKSHOP. IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE, SO I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT SUGGESTION, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE SO WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE TYPICAL POLICY COMMITTEE PROCESS. YET BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE THAT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING OR WORKSHOP COMING UP. UM, DID YOU WANNA OK, I THOUGHT YOU WERE. I HADN'T HAD AN INTERJECTION. UM SO THEN AND SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT SO THERE COULD BE SOME CHANGES TO THE POLICY. UH BEFORE THE 22ND WHEN WE VOTE ON THE POLICY AND SPEAKING OF ONE POTENTIAL CHANGE THERE, UM SO THE, UM THE BOARD ONLY HAS ONE EMPLOYEE AND THAT THAT ONE EMPLOYEE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO POLICIES, BOARD POLICIES, UH, THE TERMS, SUPERINTENDENT OR ADMINISTRATION OR DISTRICT ARE OFTEN FAIRLY INTERCHANGEABLE. AND SO IF THE GRASS GETS TOO HIGH SOMEWHERE, OR IF THE AIR CONDITIONING IN THIS ROOM GOES OUT, UH, NOBODY THINKS THAT DOCTOR SMITH IS GOING TO MOW THE GRASS OR FIX THE AIR CONDITIONING. UH, BUT HE'S THE ONE THAT THE BOARD SENDS OUR COMMUNICATION TO. HE'S THE ONE. HE'S THE ONE WE GO TO WITH EXPECTATIONS, AND HE'S THE ONE. HE'S THE ONE. WE HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE THINGS. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT IS FAIRLY INTERCHANGEABLE. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, UM TO GOING WITH, UM IN INSTEAD OF THE WORD SUPERINTENDENT HAVING THIS AUTHORITY, I'M I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GOING WITH EITHER AT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE AUTHORITY OR THE DISTRICT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE BOOKS PERTAINING TO THIS PROCESS. MISTER BRUSH. ANYTHING YOU WANT IS THAT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CLARIFY OR ADD TO THAT? NO THE POLICY COULD BE CRAFTED TO HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL AUTHORITY OR AS YOU SUGGESTED A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATOR OR A DIFFERENT PROCESS, RIGHT? SO, YEAH, SO THE INTENTION THERE WAS NOT THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WOULD BE THE ONE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. UH, THE ONLY INTENTION THERE IS THAT, UH, WHEN THE BOARD SETS EXPECTATIONS WHEN WE WHEN WE MAKE COMMUNICATION AND WHEN WE HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS FROM THE BOARD PERSPECTIVE GO THROUGH THE PERSON OF THE SUPERINTENDENT. AND SO I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO CLARIFY. SO FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TEACHING AND LEARNING DEPARTMENT AND, UH, LIKELY UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHIEF ACADEMIC OFFICER, MAKING THOSE ACTUAL DECISIONS, BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT WOULD BE THE ONE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DECISIONS, SO I THINK THAT CLARIFICATION WAS IMPORTANT. SO NOW JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, SO LAST YEAR, WE CREATED A CHALLENGE PROCESS THAT ENABLED PARENTS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CHALLENGE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, INCLUDING LIBRARY BOOKS PRIOR TO CREATING THAT

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UH, SO AND I QUOTE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE REQUIRED TO CREATE POLICIES ADHERING TO THESE STANDARDS, AND SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICY, UH, FOR LIBRARY BOOKS ADHERES TO THE STANDARDS THAT THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND T SLACK JUST APPROVED IN DECEMBER. UH SO AND THEN, UH, FAILING TO ADOPT. THIS POLICY OPENS UP THE DISTRICT TO GRIEVANCES BEING FILED FOR CERTAIN BOOKS AND POTENTIALLY TE A COMPLAINTS BEING FILED FOR OUR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE EXISTING EF LOCAL POLICY IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW STANDARDS, AND THIS REWRITTEN VERSION WOULD SATISFY THE TE A LEGAL GUIDANCE TO BECOME COMPLIANT. FINALLY VOTING NO ON THIS POLICY MEANS VOTING IN FAVOR OF LEAVING CONTINENT LIKE WE HEARD LAST MONTH AT OUR SCHOOL BOARD, OR AND LIKE THE CONTENT LIKE WE HEARD LAST MONTH ON OUR SCHOOL LIBRARY SHELVES. I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN RESTORING THE AUTHORITY TO LIBRARIANS AND ADMINISTRATORS TO REMOVE EGREGIOUS CONTENT, SUCH AS THAT WHICH MENTIONS SEX WITH JESUS, CHILD AND CHILD RAPE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HAMILTON. MISS HANNAN. THANK YOU. I THINK MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT I'M NOT IN THE HABIT OF READING STATEMENTS, BUT I'M BREAKING THAT HABIT TONIGHT. AS A POLICY COMMITTEE MEMBER. I WANT MY FELLOW TRUSTEES TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD. I TOOK NO PART IN AUTHORING THE CHANGES YOU SEE TODAY BEFORE YOU IN THE DRAFT OF EFFEF LOCAL, NOR DID I HAVE KNOWLEDGE IT WAS EVEN BEING DRAFTED. DURING THE MARCH POLICY COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED ME TRUSTEE JONES COMMITTEE CHAIR HAMILTON TRUSTEE HAMILTON EXPRESSED TO STAFF ATTORNEY COBY WILBANKS. HE WANTED POLICY EF TO BE ON THE APRIL AGENDA. HE SHARED HIS DESIRE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PULL MATERIALS. DURING THAT MEETING. I REMINDED HIM THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, HAVING SOLE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE BOOKS DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THE POLICY COMMITTEE DETERMINED THE POLICY COMMITTEE. DID NOT, MISSUS. HANNAN DETERMINED UM, THAT THE RECONSIDERATION COMMITTEE WAS THE MORE FAVORABLE ALTERNATIVE.

THE PREVIOUS POLICY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, MRS MALONE AND MR HAMILTON WORKED AMICABLY TOGETHER WITH STAFF MEMBERS ON THE CURRENT VERSION, AND BY THAT, I MEAN THE CURRENT ADOPTED VERSION OF ESEF LOCAL FOR ALMOST A YEAR. IT CAME TO A VOTE ON MARCH 27TH OF 2023 AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY FOLLOWING APP. 20 MINUTES OF BOARD DISCUSSION DURING THE BOARD AGENDA REVIEW ON MARCH 6 AND APPROXIMATELY NINE MINUTES OF CONVERSATION PRIOR TO THE MARCH 27TH VOTE VOTE, SO THE BOARD MAY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE TIME AND EFFORT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE QUESTION. MISS DAY HAS POSED , I WILL SHARE THIS IS NOT PART OF MY STATEMENT, BUT I DO NOT THINK A SINGLE WORKSHOP WILL GET US WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, UM , IN REFLECTION OF THE POLICY

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APRIL 14TH 2022 MAY 4TH 2022 MAY 19TH 2022 JUNE 14TH 2022 JUNE 13TH 2022 WE MET ONCE IN AUGUST OF THAT SAME YEAR, JANUARY 11TH 2023 FEBRUARY 15TH OF 2023. I RECEIVED THE DRAFT POLICY ON TODAY'S, UH, BOARD AGENDA. UH, I RECEIVED DRAFT POLICY ON TODAY'S BOARD AGENDA. ITEM OF EF WITHOUT RED LINE FROM BOARD COUNCIL WITHIN THE PAST WEEK TO BE SPECIFIC. IT WAS TUESDAY, WHICH WAS AFTER WAS WAS WHICH WAS AFTER THE LAST POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. TO BE CLEAR THERE WERE NO CHA TRACKED CHANGES IDENTIFIED IN THE DOCUMENT I RECEIVED THIS MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DISCERN DELETIONS AND REVISIONS. I RECEIVED THE DRAFT WITH MARK CHANGES IN MY BOARD. IT AT THE SAME TIME. THE REST OF YOU RECEIVED YOURS ON FRIDAY EVENING. I VEHEMENTLY.

REJECT THIS DRAFT OF EF LOCAL AND REMAINS STEADFAST IN MY SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE POLICY. IN MY OPINION, THERE ARE MANY DEEPLY CONCERNING ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS IN THIS DRAFT. I BELIEVE A N, ELIMINATING THE RECONSIDERATION COMMITTEES IN FAVOR OF GIVING THE SUPERINTENDENT FULL DISCRETION OVER REMOVING MATERIALS WOULD BE A VERY POOR GOVERNANCE DECISION BY THIS BOARD. GRANTING AUTHORITY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT PROVIDES BOTH TOO MUCH POWER. TOO MUCH BURDEN. IF A BOARD MEMBER DOES NOT LIKE THE DECISION, WILL THIS BE GROUNDS FOR PROVIDING A POOR EVALUATION OR CALL FOR TERMINATION? IN ADDITION, THIS POLICY DRAFT MAKES FNG THE FNG GRIEVANCE PROCESS, THE MAIN INSTRUMENT CENTRAL TO THE PROCESS OF PROTESTING MATERIALS IF THEY ARE NOT REMOVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT. THIS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THE TIME NOR THE EXPERTISE TO HEAR LEVEL THREE GRIEVANCE REGARDING MATERIALS, AND I BELIEVE IN HEARING OFFICER IS NOT THE RIGHT PERSON TO DECIDE THE FATE OF CONTESTED MATERIALS IN FORT VAN DURING THE 20 MINUTES OF DISCUSSION SURROUNDING SURROUNDING POLICY EF LOCAL AT THE MARCH 6TH 2023 BOARD AGENDA REVIEW ONE POLICY COMMITTEE MEMBER MADE THIS STATEMENT REGARDING THE APPROVED POLICY. IT EMPOWERS THE FAMILIES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME RESPECTING THE PROFESSIONALS. AND THE APPROACH TO IT. IT IS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH THAT WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER REGARDING THE CONTENT OF OUR CHILDREN. I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AND ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION. IT IS MY OPINION BOARD ALL BOARD COMMITTEES, INCLUDING THE POLICY COMMITTEE ARE CREATED TO SERVE THE FUNCTION TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY AND COOPERATIVELY ON ITEMS AND ISSUES, INCLUDING BEFORE PRESENTING ITEMS TO THE FULL BOARD. IT IS ALSO A MATTER OF EFFICIENCY AND ENABLING SOLICITATION OF STAFF EXPERTISE AND STAFF FEEDBACK. FURTHERMORE I BELIEVE THAT THE POLICY BEFORE YOU TODAY REPRESENTS A CONCERNING LAPSE IN BOARD COMMITTEE PROTOCOL AND A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR AND RESPECT OF BOTH THE BOARD COMMITTEE FRAMEWORK AND THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE BOARD BY THE PRESIDENT TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE, WHILE NOT EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, IT IS IMPLIED THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WORK TOGETHER ANY ACTION OF SUPPORT OF THIS DRAFT BY THE BOARD CREATES PRECEDENT THAT ALL OTHER COMMITTEE CHAIRS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY ALSO CIRCUMVENT ESTABLISHED COMMITTEES AND BRING ITEMS TO THE BOARD WITHOUT REGARD TO THEIR FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS CONSIDERATION. GIVING THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE SHARED. I IMPLORE MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS DAIS TO REJECT THE DRAFT OF EFEF LOCAL BEFORE YOU AND TO AND TO CONSIDER PREVENTING THIS ITEM FROM MOVING FORWARD TO A VOTE AT THE APRIL 22ND BOARD MEETING. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT ADOPTED VERSION OF EF LOCAL REMINDING YOU THAT SIX OF YOU ON THIS DAIS

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THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. OK THANK YOU. I'M NOT BECAUSE I'M LIKE MY PARENTS ARE WATCHING AND I JUST CAN'T BE SEEN READING SOMETHING LIKE THAT PUBLICLY. YOU KNOW, MY GRANDKIDS ARE WATCHING. I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. OK THAT'S HOW DEEP IT GOES. OK FOR ME. TO BE READING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE PUBLIC. SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF WHAT YOU HEARD LAST WEEK. IF YOU DIDN'T FEEL SOME KIND OF WAY HEARING SOME OF THE CONTENTS OF THOSE BOOKS THERE IS SOMETHING CLEARLY WRONG. BECAUSE IT WAS ALARMING. IT WAS JUST LIKE, WHOA , I KNEW IT WAS BAD, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THIS BAD. SO THIS IS WHERE I STAND ON EF LOCAL FIRST THE POLICY. IS TO WAS DRAFTED TO ENSURE LEGAL COMPLIANCE. WITH HOUSE BILL 900 AS OUTLINED IN THE BILL. AND THAT'S WHAT JONATHAN BRUSH DID IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE POLICY IF YOU ACTUALLY COMPARED IT. TO HOUSE BILL 900. IT ALIGNS COMPLETELY WITH WHAT IS OUTLINED NOW WE DIDN'T MAKE UP HOUSE BILL 900. WE DIDN'T PASS HOUSE BILL 900. THAT'S WHAT STATE LEGISLATURES DID DID. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL WHAT WE KNOW. WHAT WE THINK WHAT MY VALUES ARE WHAT I AGREE WITH WHAT I DISAGREE WITH. IT'S A SIMPLE FACT. THAT THIS IS LEGAL AND PART OF IT IS ALSO CRIMINAL. NOW WE DIDN'T MAKE THOSE RULES. WE DIDN'T NONE OF US HERE. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHERE THE BOOK IS BAD. I DON'T AGREE OR IT'S TOO DIVERSE OR IT'S NOT DIVERSE ENOUGH. IT'S THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WE NEED TO BE IN LINE WITH THE LAW. WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THAT. WE DON'T OK, SO WE HAVE TO CRAFT POLICIES THAT ALIGN WITH THE LAW. LIBRARIANS. THERE'S THE ROOM OUT IN THE STREETS THAT WE'RE ANTI LIBRARIAN. I HEARD THAT ENOUGH IN THE OTHER DISTRICT. OK SO HERE WE ARE, WITH THIS, UM POLICY ACTUALLY PROTECTS LIBRARIANS. IT IS NOT

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THEY GO THROUGH MULTIPLE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT NOT ONLY IT IS FOR LIBRARY MANAGEMENT. BUT THERE'S A LEGAL ASPECT THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY AS WELL FOR THE RENEWAL OF THEIR CERTIFICATES. AND SO WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM. THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE THE PROFESSIONALS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL FOR TO BE TAUGHT. BY THE PROFESSIONALS, AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT ABOUT, UH, LIBRARIANS TEACHERS, TOO. WE NEED TO STOP TREATING THEM LIKE THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONALS. THEY'RE THE EXPERTS. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. AND SO WE HAVE TO TRUST OUR SUPERINTENDENT. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR HE'S A SINGLE PERSON. WELL, ACCORDING TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. HE HAS THE JOB AND THE RESPONSIBILITY. TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICT IS IN LEGAL COMPLIANCE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS IT IS OUTLINE. IN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE 242. IT'S THERE, SO IT'S NOT ABOUT. OH, WELL, WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE ONE PERSON ONE PERSON THE POWER WELL, WE'RE NOT GIVING IT TO HIM BECAUSE THE STATE HAS ALREADY DONE THAT. SO WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT NOW? WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP. THE LIBRARIANS. THEY HAVE A LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AS WELL. HOUSE BILL 900. I READ IT. I READ IT A COUPLE OF TIMES I LOOKED AT THE EF LOCAL.

I'M LIKE, I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? IT'S NOT FOR PRO CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S THE BILL. IT'S THE LAW. IT DOESN'T FAVOR 11 SIDE OR THE OTHER. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MY TAKE ON IT IS LET US GET IN. GET IN COMPLIANCE. WE GOT OTHER ISSUES THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE IN COMPLIANT, BUT THAT'S A THERE'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT MEETING. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS. THE SUPERINTENDENT'S ROLE IS THE HIGHEST POSITION AS THE CHIEF INSTRUCTIONAL OFFICER IN THE DISTRICT. HE IS THE HE MAKES SURE THAT ALTHOUGH WE AS A BOARD, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LEGAL COMPLIANCE HIS JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. AND NOT THE PERSON ON THE STREET.

SOMEBODY'S MAMA, THE PASTOR OR WHOEVER. WE'RE ALL THE PROFESSIONALS HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. IT SHOULDN'T BE WELL. MY FRIEND ON THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. UH IS MAKING A DECISION FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S CHILD WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T I READ? THEY'RE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED ARE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. AND SO AND FOR THIS, I'M NOT FOR WELL. I AGREE WITH THE BOOK. I DISAGREE WITH THE BOOK. I'M FOR THIS POLICY IS BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. OK THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT. SO AS FAR AS THE POLICY COMMITTEE, SO WE WENT TO THE PO POLICY COMMITTEE. AND WE SAT THERE ABOUT GOOD HOUR HOUR 15 MINUTES.

AND WE GOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK. WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF PUSH BACK BECAUSE WE REQUESTED A DRAFTED POLICY FOR EF LOCAL THAT THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT? NO, WE DID NOT. EVERY EXCUSE IN THE BOOK OF WHY WAS GIVEN OR WHY WE SHOULD NOT IMPLEMENT SUCH A POLICY WHILE WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE IT. AND THAT'S

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THEY WERE NOT REMOVED. NO, SIR. AND I REMEMBER THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE PUT THIS THROUGH THE LAST TIME IS THAT AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME. THAT THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO REMOVE THE BOOKS WHEN THEY WERE BEING CHALLENGED BECAUSE THEY COULD BE AN EXPEDITED PROCESS. BUT HERE WE ARE SEVERAL WEEKS LATER, AND THE BOOKS ARE STILL THERE. AND THIS ISN'T FOR ME. THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A ONE THING OR THE OTHER OR IT IT IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING CHILDREN.

AND THERE'S PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ARGUMENT. PEOPLE HERE TODAY THAT ARE AGAINST THE POLICY ALSO AGREE THAT THE BOOKS SHOULDN'T BE THERE. SO WHY ARE THE BOOKS THERE IF I WERE TO ASK YOU ALL RIGHT NOW, CAN YOU REMOVE THE BOOKS? AND WE REMOVE THEM. YEAH. SO TO ME, THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE'RE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SUPERINTENDENT CAN'T REMOVE THE BOOKS. THAT'S ALSO A PROBLEM. WE'RE KIND OF HANDCUFFED BY OUR OWN POLICY. THAT'S A PROBLEM SO BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T AGREE. AND I. I DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THIS CAME TO ME. I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD HAVE GONE ABOUT DOING THIS AND I. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A WORKSHOP. I THINK THAT WHILE WE'RE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH THE LAW, AND I UNDERSTAND WE PASSED THIS POLICY LAST YEAR UH, THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION HOUSE BILL 900. NOW THERE'S NEW STANDARDS. SO THE POLICY WORD SITTING HERE TRYING TO STAY UP TO WHAT THE LAW IS SAYING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THE COMMUNITY, THE CHALLENGE PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN CREATE A CHALLENGE PROCESS, BUT THE POLICY DOESN'T NECESSARILY JUST AUTOMATICALLY SAY IT. SO THERE THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM I THINK FOR UM, COMPROMISE. I DON'T WANT THESE BOOKS IN THE SCHOOLS AND I WANT THEM REMOVED. BUT I CAN'T. I CAN'T SAY THAT I CAN VOTE FOR THIS POLICY AS IT IS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DILEMMA THAT I'M AT AND I AM FULL IN FAVOR OF HAVING A WORKSHOP AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK ON THIS COLLABORATIVELY. WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED TO MOVE PAST THIS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET STUFF LIKE THAT OUT QUICKER. AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE SITTING THERE, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. AND FOR ALL I KNOW THEY PROBABLY HAVE NEVER BEEN CHECKED OUT. THEY PROBABLY NEVER EVEN BEEN CHECKED OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE. SO UM BUT I CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT I CAN SUPPORT THE POLICY AS IT IS II. I DO LIKE THE IDEA. OF A WORKSHOP AND WE HAVE TO COME TO SOME CONSENSUS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY EF LOCAL AS IT STANDS NOW, THAT'S WELL, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN GOOD AT THE TIME HAD BEEN GOOD INTENTIONS. IT'S A BROKEN POLICY. WE'RE STUCK BY OUR OWN POLICY AND THE WHOLE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAME WERE SO UPSET, OBVIOUSLY AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. NOW I HAVE A SON. THAT'S

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I UNDERSTAND. I APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND METHODS. UM AND I WILL ALSO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD. SORT OF TOOK AWAY THE AUTHORITY OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. TO THAT THE AUDITORS FOR THE NEW AND THEY WE PARTICIPATED AS A FULL BOARD. MOST OF US SO YOU KNOW, I WILL REMIND. WELL, I DO DEFER TO THE COMMITTEE. AND I DO WANT THE FULL COMMITTEES TO BE INVOLVED, AND I LIKE TO BASE MY DECISION ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS. WE DIDN'T DO THAT WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE FULLY PARTICIPATION OF THE YOU KNOW YOU WERE BUT YOU WEREN'T ALWAYS IN FULL AGREEMENT OF WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS. SO I JUST I JUST WOULD REMIND THE BOARD THAT AS WELL SO UM AND I DO HAVE A MOTION. BUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS DOCTOR GIDEON? YEAH. DOCTOR GIDEON. PLEASE. OK I'M I'M JUST GONNA TALK. OK, FIRST OF ALL. UM IS THERE ANYTHING IN HOUSE BILL 900 OUT OF ALIGNMENT THAT WE DON'T KNOW. OK HOLD ON. I'M GONNA ASK IS THERE WHAT IS IT RIGHT HERE? WHAT IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT? SO I WOULD SAY SO. HOUSE BILL 900 IS IN IS IN EFFECT. SORRY. DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER? I REALLY WASN'T ASKING WHO OUT THERE CAN TELL ME. OK? WHO CAN TELL ME HOW WE'RE OUT OF ALIGNMENT. SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS OF HOUSE BILL 900 THAT REQUIRE EXPLICIT LIKE HARMFUL MATERIALS IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT'S REQUIRED TO RE TO NOT ALLOW THOSE PROVISIONS IN YOUR POLICY OR IN YOUR LIBRARIES. OK, SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS THERE. HOUSE BILL 900 REQUIRED AS YOU'RE AWARE, T SLACK TO ADOPT THOSE LIBRARY STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN JANUARY. AND SO THE POLICY COMMUNITY IN THIS STATE HAS REALLY BEEN WAITING FOR THOSE STANDARDS TO COME DOWN THAT CAME DOWN IN JANUARY. I SPOKE TODAY WITH SOME POLICY CONSULTANTS, AND THEY ARE PREPARING THIS. THE POLICY COMMUNITY IS PREPARING THOSE REVISIONS TO WORK THROUGH AND INCORPORATE NOT 900, BUT ALSO THOSE TEA SLACK STANDARDS FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE INTO RECOMMENDED POLICIES AROUND THE STATE. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT POLICY DEVELOPMENT, UM FROM OUR POLICY CONSULTANTS, AND SO YES, THERE ARE PROVISIONS FROM HOUSE BILL 900 THAT AREN'T IN COMPLIANT WITH OUR CURRENT POLICY. OK SO HOW FAR BEHIND ARE WE NOT THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENT.

HOW? HOW FAR? HOW FAR? HOW FAR SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS IN JANUARY.

OR WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE, 11 GAUGE THAT WE USE, UM, HAS BE PRES PUTS OUT NUMBERED POLICY UPDATES THAT INCLUDE REQUIRED REVISIONS. THESE REVISION. REGARDING HOSPITAL 900, AS WELL AS THE TAC STANDARDS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE IN THE NEXT NUMBERED UPDATES, SO THEY'RE NOT OUT BY BY CASBY. AT THIS POINT, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, EITHER LATER THIS SPRING OR EARLY SUMMER, OK, SO DID WE JUST MISS SOMETHING OR ARE WE ON TIME OR WE'RE NOT ON TIME. WHERE ARE WE ON THE TIMELINE? AGAIN. I'M GONNA ASK SHOULD WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING PRIOR TO THIS? TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. THERE IS NO DEADLINE SET FORTH IN THE LIBRARY STANDARDS, THE GUIDANCE FROM THE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVE COMMISSION IS TO REVIEW POLICIES AND TO MAKE NECESSARY CHANGES. BUT THE STATUTE DOES NOT SET A HARD AND FAST YOU MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE BY X DATE. OK SO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO BY, RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN GET IN COMPLIANCE IN SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN GET TAKEN CARE OF. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? OUR CURRENT PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES . YOU'VE HEARD DR LAWSON AND MISS HUBBARD REFER TO THE INTERNAL AUDITS OF ALL OF OUR

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III I? YOU ARE EXPERTS. I TRUST YOU. THERE IS NO WAY I'M GONNA COME OUT AND TELL YOU EVEN AS THE BUILDING PRINCIPAL. I'M GONNA COME AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU THAT. TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO DO.

HEY, DID YOU REALIZE ALL OF THIS STUFF WAS GOING ON THE BOARD MEETING? HEY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? YOU KNOW WHAT OK, I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. BUT I'M GONNA SAY IT BECAUSE I'M I'M NOT A PRINCIPAL ANYMORE. I'D TELL YOU PLEASE GO RESEARCH AND COME TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON. BECAUSE I HAVE TOO MUCH TO DO. DOCTOR SMITH. YOU HAVE TOO MUCH TO DO. I'M SORRY. NO, HE HE DOES NOT NEED THAT. WE ARE NOT GONNA PUT HIM READING BOOKS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO GET IN THE LIBRARY. HE HAS THINGS THAT HE HAS TO DO. I WOULDN'T EVEN ASK A PRINCIPAL OF A SCHOOL TO DO THAT. SO AND YOU KNOW, IT'S OK. WE AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO AGREE THAT THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE THIS BETTER AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH IT. I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE NEW THINGS ARE. BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT THINGS I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY UP THERE AND I. I TRULY HOPE MR HAM HAMILTON THAT YOU WON'T SAY JESUS AND THE OTHER THING THAT COMES AFTER THAT, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT ABOUT FOUR TIMES TODAY. IT WAS SOMETHING WITH JESUS AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BECAUSE I AM A CHRISTIAN. AND THE ONE THING I'M NOT GONNA DO IS USE HIS NAME IN ANY ANY ANY WAY THAT IT IS NOT, UM KIND. AND IT IS NOT RELIGIOUS. AND IT IS IN BAD CHARACTER. THAT IS MY OPINION. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HIT THAT THAT HIT MY HEART BECAUSE I'M I'M TIRED OF HEARING THAT I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT, AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS. OK LORD, YOU GAVE IT TO ME AGAIN. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME OK, BECAUSE AND HERE'S THE OTHER THING. YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SHARED THAT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE EXCERPTS OF THOSE BOOKS ONLINE.

AND FACEBOOK. BUT YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO GO ON A, UH INTO A LIBRARY AND READ IT, BUT THEY CAN GO TO FACEBOOK AND PICK IT UP. THEY CAN READ IT WITH THEIR MOM AND DAD. DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WHY ARE WE PUTTING THAT OUT THERE? BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE SOME WE CAN LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITHOUT THE PROFANITY AND EVERYTHING I KNOW IT'S ABOUT.

LET'S REALLY GO WITH THAT. AND YOU KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO SEE I'M AN EDUCATOR. I WANT CHILDREN TO BE ABLE. I WANT PARENTS TO BE ABLE. I WANT STUDENTS. I WANT THOSE 10TH AND

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OK, SO DID. I THOUGHT I HEARD MISS HANNON SAID THAT SHE WASN'T IN THAT. DID YOU KNOW THAT ALL THIS WAS GETTING READY TO HAPPEN? NO DOCTOR GILLIAM. I DID NOT KNOW THAT MR HAMILTON AND I DON'T IIII. I DON'T KNOW WHO WORKED WITH MR BRUSH, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT THE POLICY WAS DRAFTED BY BY OUR BOARD ATTORNEY UM WHICH IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD , UM I HAVE BEEN ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE. I WAS ON IT WHEN? UM, UH DAVE ROSENTHAL WAS THE CHAIR. UH, WITH GRALL JAMES. I WAS ON THIS COMMITTEE WITH MISS MALONE AS THE CHAIR WITH MR HAMILTON. I'VE BEEN ON THIS POLICY COMMITTEE SINCE I HAVE WAS ELECTED. AND IT IS. BEEN THE PRACTICE. THAT POLICY IS DRAFTED IN THE COMMITTEE WITH THE HELP OF THE STAFF ATTORNEY CAN DO THAT AND STAFF COUNSEL. I DID NOT I. I HAVE BEEN ASKED A QUESTION BY MS GILLIAM, DOCTOR GILLIAM. I DO NOT RECALL. SEEING ANY CORRESPONDENCE THAT REQUESTED A REWRITE OF THIS POLICY. NOR DO I RECALL HEARING A DIRECTIVE. FROM THE POLICY COMMITTEE WHEN I WAS THERE, LIVE AND IN PERSON TO MAKE A DRAFT OF THIS POLICY, NOR DO I RECALL. HEARING ANY STAFF MEMBER DEFER MR HAMILTON OR MISS JONES. TO SEEK OUT OUR BOARD ATTORNEY TO WRITE A NEW DRAFT OF THE POLICY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT THAT DOES? AND HERE? HERE'S WHERE I AM AND I. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO GET TO, AND SO UM I REALLY TRULY WOULD AND I. I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT COMMENTS AND I JUST WANT, UH, THE END. PART OF THIS IS HOW CAN WE LEAVE HERE? HOW CAN UH YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA AGREE TO DISAGREE. BUT I TRULY HOPE THAT WE CAN. WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

I THINK RIGHT NOW IN GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO PASS SOMETHING, UH, THE NEXT BOARD MEETING? I DON'T I. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY ONE THING THAT WE HAVE, OR I I'M SURE THOSE SENIORS ARE LOOKING FOR SOME OF THOSE BOOKS THAT THEY HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF. BEFORE YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY ADVERTISED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HOPE HERE NOW , LET ME MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET WHAT WE NEED IN THESE NEW POLICIES. AND I'M SURE THEY ARE LIBRARIANS OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY MUCH WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE BOOKS GOING OUT. CAN WE JUST GET BACK? YOU KNOW THAT TYPE OF THING OR OR MAYBE NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHILE II I FINISH UP THEN I'M GONNA LOOK STRAIGHT AT THE LIBRARIANS. I SUPPORT YOU 100. I KNOW YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF. AND SO AND I. I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S NOT. WE'RE NOT BLAMING ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT WE AS A BOARD , WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING POLICY AND WE ARE DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AS WELL AS AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT IS ON THIS ALSO, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL'S TIME. I AM CALM. AND, UH, I'M JUST HOPING Y'ALL. LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING ON THIS. LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR GIDEON, MISS MALONE. YES. THANK YOU, UM THIS HAS BEEN VERY ENLIGHTENING. AND SO MUCH.

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THANK YOU, SIR. I STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. AND SO I'M GONNA START WITH JUST A FEW. AND SO IT WAS CLEAR TO ME, UM MR BRUSH. WROTE THIS POLICY. MAY I ASK, SIR, WHEN WERE YOU ASKED TO WRITE THIS POLICY? WHEN DID THAT WORK START? TO BE CLEAR MY OFFICE MYSELF AND MR MORRIS AUTHORED THE POLICY. I DO NOT RECALL THE SPECIFIC DATE. IT WAS A REQUEST TO MR MORRIS. I DO NOT INTEND TO REVEAL DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. SO APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG AGO? UM MR HAMILTON, DID YOU MAKE THE REQUEST TO ROGERS? MR MORRIS? TO WRITE THE POLICY. SO I DID STATE IN THE LAST POLICY COMMITTEE THAT I WANTED THIS POLICY CRAFTED. UH AND I AND I WANTED IT PRESENTED THIS MONTH AND I AND I VERY CLEARLY STATED THAT AND I SAID THAT MY REASON AND SO MAYBE ME STATING MY REASON FOR THAT WILL JOG YOUR MEMORY. UM SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH.

UH, THIS LIBRARY CONTENT THAT, UH DOCTOR GILLIAM DOESN'T WANT ME TO REPEAT AGAIN, SIR. I'M JUST ASKING WHEN SO? SO I STATED THAT IN THE LAST POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH WAS THE WEEK OF THE 18TH OF MARCH MARCH, THE 22ND MARCH 22ND UM, SO THAT WAS IN THE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. AND THEN SO YOU ASKED HIM AFTER THAT, THEN? OK THANK YOU. UM AGAIN. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE. AND SO YOU YOU STATED THAT AND THEN MISS HANNAH DIDN'T GET AN UPDATE ON IT UNTIL AFTER OR OR JUST TUESDAY. SO WHEN THEY DRAFTED THE POLICY, THEY SENT IT TO ME FOR INITIAL REVIEW. UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF GRAMMATICAL CHANGES THAT I WANTED TO SEE.

THEY MADE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN PROVIDED IT TO THE TO THE FULL POLICY COMMITTEE. UM, AND THEN.

THEY THEY RECEIVED IT INITIALLY ON TUESDAY. I THINK TRUSTY HANNON HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS THAT THAT RESULTED IN A SECOND DRAFT. IS THAT ACCURATE OR WHAT? OK NO, SIR, THAT IS INACCURATE. OK WELL , WE GOT A REVISED VERSION LATER LAST WEEK. SO SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE RESULT OF YOUR BASED ON DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN MYSELF AND MR WILBANKS. OK, THANK YOU. OK, SO 12 SO LESS THAN TWO WEEKS. RIGHT? SO THE 22ND WAS A POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. THAT'S A FRIDAY. LET'S SAY MONDAY IS THE FIRST LET ME CLARIFY THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE 20TH. THE POLICY COMMITTEE WAS ON THE 20TH OK. SO ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. UM ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT TOOK US A YEAR, THE LAST TIME BUT I AGAIN JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. UM AND THEN TASBY. WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA HAVE GUIDANCE, LIKE MR SAID ON SLACKS AND ALL OF THAT, SO EVEN IF THESE CHANGES ARE MADE, IS IT PROBABLE THAT WE MAY HAVE TO REVISIT THIS AGAIN AFTER WE RECEIVE GUIDANCE ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY? AGAIN. AND THEN DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO BOARD COUNCIL TO HELP US ADOPT THOSE ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN GUIDANCE AT THAT POINT, OR IS THAT I MEAN, IS THAT A PROBABILITY OR POSSIBILITY AS WELL IT IT'S A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. HOWEVER WE DO HAVE THE CURRENT STANDARDS FROM T SLACK TO USE AND SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE UNDERLYING LAW WON'T CHANGE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVIEW THAT FOR THESE. CAN I ADD A LITTLE DID WE ALREADY RECEIVE THE TEST? WE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS POLICY OR DOESN'T COME UNTIL SUMMER HAS TO BE PUT OUT A VERSION. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS PROBABLY SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO. UM AS THIS WAS BECOMING AN ISSUE, UH, LARGELY ACROSS THE STATE, BUT THAT CAME OUT PRIOR TO THOSE STANDARDS FROM. I THOUGHT THEY HAD SENT SOMETHING RECENTLY, BUT NO. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING RECENTLY INCORPORATING THOSE JANUARY STANDARDS. OK? NO II. I APPRECIATE THAT, UM ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN ANOTHER THING BECAUSE I DIDN'T READ THIS IN HOUSE 900, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. IS THERE ANYWHERE IN THERE? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SUPERINTENDENT BEING THE DECISION MAKER IN THAT AND THAT IS THERE ANYWHERE IN THE BILL, OR, UM, GUIDANCE FROM TASBY OR ANY OTHER AUTHORITY THAT'S MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DECISION MAKING, MAKING AUTHORITY TO YEAH. MR WILBANKS SAYS THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION IS NOT MANDATED BY HOUSE BILL 900 HOUSE BILL 900 CONTAINS RESTRICTIONS

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IT'S AN OPTION FOR THE BOARDS CONSIDERATION. WERE THERE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS, THERE COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT A POLICY COULD BE CRAFTED BY EARLIER TODAY, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON WHETHER IT COULD BE AFTER DR SMITH'S COMMENTS, THE SUPERINTENDENT OR AN ADMINISTRATOR, OR A SET LEVEL OF COMMITTEE OF ADMINISTRATORS. ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS WOULD BE POTENTIALLY VIABLE OPTIONS. YEAH, I WAS JUST GETTING AT WHERE THE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE MR UM HAMILTON MENTIONED THAT HE RECEIVED THE POLICY. HE REVIEWED IT. YOU ALL WORKED ON IT HAD FEEDBACK AND DIRECT ACCESS. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD ALREADY GIVEN HIM VARIOUS OPTIONS, YOU KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T BECAUSE WE WEREN'T THERE. AND FRANKLY, THE REALITY IS ON THIS ACTUAL POLICY. LAST TIME IT TOOK US A YEAR BECAUSE IT'S UM IT'S A HARD POLICY RIGHT AND IT'S HARD TO STRIKE THAT FINE BALANCE, AND WE DID SEE CA SEE COUNCIL AND GET YOUR PERSPECTIVES AND WEIGH IN AND HERE LEGALLY AND THEN HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING. SO UM, I'M GENUINELY PROCESSING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH Y'ALL. SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, THAT I'M GONNA REALLY JUST KIND OF LIMIT THIS AT THIS POINT AND PUT SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR THE BOARD. THE MAIN THING. I'M THINKING OF Y'ALL. GOOD GOD, WE CUT. UM I'M SORRY, LORD, THANK GOD. BUT WE CUT. UM $40 MILLION. AND SO THE ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME THAT'S LIKE GLARING IN MY FACE BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT, UM, THE MONEY SIDE OF THINGS IS NUMBER ONE. HOW MUCH DID IT COST US IN BOARD COUNCIL TO REVIEW THIS POLICY TO ADOPT AND TO DO IT IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS. MAYBE IT WASN'T YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DIDN'T TAKE VERY LONG. BUT I WOULD PRESUME BASED ON THE LAST POLICY HOW LONG THAT TOOK IT COST MONEY, BUT MORE THAN THAT IS A RESIDUAL COST. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF SOMEBODY WERE TO FILE AN F AND G COMPLAINT AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY AND YADA, YADA YADA THAT COST THE DISTRICT MONEY EVERY SINGLE TIME AS WELL. UM SO FINANCIALLY. I JUST AM WONDERING ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND WHAT THE ESTIMATED COSTS ARE. AND THEN SO IN HOW MUCH TAXPAYER DOLLARS WOULD WOULD BE SPENT IN THAT, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS BACK TO THE BOOKS IN IN HEARING ALL OF THAT, UM SO I HAD TOLD THE COMMITTEE THIS WAY BACK WHEN AND I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE PERSONAL ANECDOTE HERE WITH, UM, MY OWN KID. THERE WAS A BOOK BEING READ IN SCHOOL, AND I MY DAUGHTER GOT EXCITED. WANTED TO READ IT. I BOUGHT HER THE WHOLE DOGGONE SERIES. AND THEN SHE GOT BETTER AND BETTER AT READING.

AND SO AS I WAS CHANGING OUT WORDS, UM SHE BECAME, YOU KNOW IT IT WE JUST DECIDED IT WASN'T SUITED FOR OUR FAMILY. HOWEVER THAT WAS OTHER PEOPLE'S CHOICES. SO ONE THING IN THIS POLICY THAT I WANT TO ASK IS OR THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS CAN PARENTS HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR KIDS ARE READING? BECAUSE IS ANY OF THIS IN OUR TEXTBOOKS? THAT WAS STATED PREVIOUSLY AS WELL. I HAD HEARD AND I IT'S NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IS ANY OF THIS THIS CONCERN IN OUR ACTUAL TEXT BOOKS AND THAT THAT REFERENCE, UM WAS AN ERROR. IT WAS NOT A TEXTBOOK. IT WAS, UM, ONE OF THE LIBRARY BOOKS, OK ? AND THEN PARENTS DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO? NO IF THEY CHOOSE TO, WITH THEIR KID IS OR IS NOT READING. YES WE HAVE THE OPT IN FORM IN SKYWARD, WHICH CAN BE EDITED AT ANY TIME DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THE PARENTS GET A DAILY EMAIL IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THAT, UM, OF WHAT THEIR CHILD HAS CHECKED OUT OF THE LIBRARY, OK? AND SO WHEN THEY OPT IN, CAN YOU TELL PARENTS IF ANYONE IS LISTENING RIGHT NOW, WHERE THEY CAN GO SO THAT THEY CAN OPT IN TO KNOW WHAT BOOKS THEIR CHILD HAS CHECKED OUT. YES MA'AM. UM IT IS

[02:10:07]

JUST LAST WEEK WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE WITH, UM, THE BOARDS THAT HAVE THE BOOKS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED OR IN QUESTION AND WHAT CHALLENGES ARE UNDERWAY. THERE'S EVEN BEEN ADDITIONAL SINCE THAT BOARD UPDATE SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU. SO WE'RE ALERTING YOU AS TO WHICH BOOKS ARE BEING CHALLENGED, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES TO YOU ALL, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND AGAIN OUR PROCESS. BUT WILL INCLUDE IT AGAIN, UM, AGAIN WITH THIS A RELATIVELY NEW POLICY. IT'S TAKEN EVERYONE YOU KNOW A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND THE POLICIES, SO WE'LL PROVIDE THAT AGAIN. BUT I THINK JUST IN FRIDAY'S UPDATE, THERE WAS A LIST OF, UM OF BOOKS RECENTLY MENTIONED AND THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'LL BRING FORWARD ANY NEW ONES THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THEN. I. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN I ALSO THINK, THOUGH, OR WANNA KNOW HAVE ANY OF THEM. MAYBE THAT IF THEY FAIL CHALLENGE ARE THEY BEING APPEALED? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY COME OUR WAY. RIGHT. THEY HAVEN'T MADE AN TO US, AND THAT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS. THE CHALLENGE PROCESS AND SO WE HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE BOOKS THAT WE HAVE RUN THROUGH THE, UM THE CHALLENGE PROCESS. UM THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PUT, UM, ON THE KIND OF THE DO NOT ORDER LIST HAVE NOT BEEN APPEALED. THOSE DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN APPEALED. UM WE DO ASK, THOUGH, THAT IF AN APPEAL IS FILED, AND THEN THE DECISION COMES TO THE BOARD, AND YOU ALL DECIDE THAT THAT BOOK CANNOT BE APPEALED, NOT BE RECONSIDERED AGAIN FOR TWO YEARS. SO UM, BUT THE ONES WHO THAT HAVE BEEN RECONSIDERED.

[02:15:05]

UM SECOND CONCERN I HEAR IS WELL . IS THERE A POSSIBILITY DURING THE REVEAL PROCESS. WE HAVE A LIMITED ACCESS. FOR THE CHILDREN LIKE IF THEY WANT IF THEY HAVE A PERMISSION FOR FROM THEIR PARENTS, THEY CAN STILL HAVE ACCESS. BUT DURING THAT REVEAL PROCESS IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THE BOOKS I, I THINK I'M NOT SEEING ALL OF US. BUT MOST OF US I THINK WE CAN AGREE. IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE LIBRARY WITHOUT ANY UH, SUPERVISION I. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE STUDENTS READING LEVEL DEPENDS ON THEIR AGE. I TRUST THE LIBRARIANS. I DO BELIEVE THEY, THEY THEY PUT UP THE BOOKS OUT THERE BASED ON THEIR EXPERTISE. BUT WE HAVE A I MEAN, WE DON'T TO BE HONEST, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BOOKS THAT CONCERNS THE PARENTS. RIGHT. SO EVEN THE LIST I THINK IS VERY SMALL NUMBER OF BOOKS. UH AND THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN WHEN THEY THE KIDS WHEN THEY GO TO THE LIBRARY. THERE'S SOME SOMETIME WE I CONSIDER MYSELF OR MY KIDS ARE VERY FORTUNATE ONES. AND, UM I HAVE TIME TO READ WITH THEM, AND THEN THEY ARE WILLING TO TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE READING . BUT NOT EVERY CHILDREN. NOT EVERY CHILD HAS THAT LUXURY.

SOME OF THEIR PARENTS, THEY THEY DON'T HAVE TIME OR THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF HELP OR SUPPORT AT HOME. MY CONCERN IS THOSE CHILDREN. UM, SO IF WE CAN HELP THEM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE KIDS THEY REACH THE READING LEVEL, THEY ARE THE TEACHERS AGAIN. I WANT TO PUT THIS BACK ON THE TEACHERS AND COUNSELORS. IF THE PARENTS CANNOT GIVE THEM A PERMISSION, MAYBE THE TEACHERS OR COUNSELORS CAN MY POINT IS SOME OF THE BOOKS THEY CAN BE GOOD BOOKS. UM BUT THEY DO NEED GUIDANCE WHEN THE STUDENTS WHEN THEY'RE READING IT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. SO MY THINKING IS THE LENS OF THE REVIEW PROCESS IS QUITE LONG. AND NOW WE HAVE THOSE BOOKS OUT THERE AND NAMES OUT THERE, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S OUT THERE. AND THE BOOKS ARE STILL AVAILABLE ON THE SHELF. AND REGARDING TO THE LENGTH OF THE POLIC ITSELF. UM I DON'T FEEL WE CAN JUDGE THE EFFICIENCY OF A POLICY BY HOW LONG WE SPEND ON THE POLICY. BECAUSE THIS POLICY WAS REVISION OF THE CURRENT POLICY AND, UM THE POLICY COMMITTEE BEFORE CAN MEET, AND THEN THEY THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS DURING THAT YEAR. NOT JUST WORKING ON. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S JUST WORKING ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR POLICY. THERE'S OTHER POLICY CON

[02:20:04]

WELL HERE. HERE'S THE HERE'S COME DOWN TO IT. UM I HEAR TWO OPTIONS. ONE IS IF WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON THE 22ND. I PERSONALLY I WANT TO HAVE MORE. UM OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL COMPLIANCE AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IMPLEMENTATION. I WANT TO HEAR, UM WHAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AT THE MOMENT IF WE CAN DO AMENDMENT FOR THE CURRENT POLICY TO COMPLY WITH THE LEGAL COMPLIANCE, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THOSE BOOKS TEMPORARILY OFF THE SHELF WITH CERTAIN ACCESS, LIMITED ACCESS WITH PARENTS OR OR TEACHER PERMISSION, SO THE STUDENTS CAN STILL HAVE ACCESS BUT NOT JUST AVAILABLE TO ANYONE. IT DEPENDS ON THE BOOK, AND THAT DECISION SHOULD BE MADE BY THE BY THE COMMITTEE. UM SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, SO I WILL SAY I IF WITHOUT THOSE INFORMATION OR CONVERSATION I PERSONALLY I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. TO VOTE. UM ON THIS POLICY, BUT SO ANOTHER CHOICE IS WAY. WE DON'T BRING THIS POLICY TO THE BOARD AT ALL AND WAIT FOR FEW MONTHS OR WHEN THIS IS READY. UM BUT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE THAT'S THE CONVERSATION. WE SHOULD HAVE. UM WHICH DIRECTION WE WANTED TO GO, AND I WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL LEGAL COUNCIL. BASED ON WHAT? I HEARD THE CONVERSATION YOU BOTH. AND UH, AND THE FIRM AND, UH, MR WEBANK DID PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS POLICY AND I, REGARDLESS WHICH DIRECTION THE BORDER WILL GO, BUT I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL. SO THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA START CALLING THE SECOND ROUND. UM WE'LL START WITH MISS JONES. OK THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. DAY AGAIN. SO, MR BRUSH I HAVE ONE QUESTION. IF WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH HB 900, WHO BEARS THE RESPONSIBILITY. IF THE DISTRICT WERE FOUND TO BE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH HP 900. IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DISTRICT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. IT IS UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIONS TE A MIGHT TAKE. BUT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A TE, A GOVERNANCE OVERSIGHT ACTION. SO THE BOARD WOULD PRETTY MUCH TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. FOR THE NON COMPLIANCE FOR MANAGING THE DISTRICT. YES THE BOARD WOULD ULTIMATELY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LEGAL COMPLIANCE. BUT IT IS IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IS. THANK YOU NOW. JUST THINKING ABOUT WHEN I WAS DRIVING HERE, AND I CALLED THE PROFESSIONALS ON THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL AND SOME OF MY MENTORS AND WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I SENT IT OVER TO HIM AND I WAS LIKE, OK, THIS IS IN THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS IN LAMAR AND I'M LIKE, OK, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THE ONE THING THAT ONE OF THE NON SAID TO ME WAS YOUR DUTY. IS TO EDUCATE CHILDREN. YOUR DUTY. IS TO PROTECT CHILDREN. IN THIS BILL. BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOU PROTECT YOUR SUPERINTENDENT. YOU PROTECT YOUR STAFF. YOU PROTECT EVERYBODY.

WHOSE GOVERNED BY IT. IT'S NOT ABOUT PRESERVING ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. IT'S ABOUT PRESERVING THE PROFESSION. OF LIBRARIANSHIP. PERIOD POINT BLANK. IT'S NOT ABOUT WELL, I THINK WHAT I KNOW NO MATTER WHAT DIRECTION WE GO IN. WE ALL BEARS THE RESPONSIBILITY. OF SUCH A POLICY. AND IS NOT FAIR TO DOCTOR SMITH. TO DEFER THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEONE ELSE.

BECAUSE HE IS OUR ONLY EMPLOYEE. THAT HE HOLDS THAT RESPONSIBILITY BASED ON WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID. AND SO I FEEL LIKE HE SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS. HE SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT DECISION MAKING THE LIBRARIAN SHOULD HAVE A KEY ROLE. IN THAT BECAUSE THEIR JOB

[02:25:06]

AND I'VE TALKED TO MANY LIBRARIES I LIBRARIANS IN IN VERY, VERY GOOD DISCUSSIONS, SO ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY. I THINK WHAT I WHAT I SAID. THE BOOKS CAN'T BE REMOVED WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RECONSIDERATION. UH, WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE RECONSIDERATION, BUT LIBRARIANS CAN REMOVE THEM, BUT BRING THEM THEY'RE CHALLENGED. THEY CAN'T BE REMOVED. CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AND THAT'S FINE, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT I SAID IT STATED IT CORRECTLY BECAUSE I KNOW LIBRARIES. WE CAN YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIBRARIES DO HAVE A LOT THAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP CURATE AND PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. I MEAN, AND, UM, I KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE LIBRARIANS AT BOWIE SHE DOES AN AMAZING JOB. I TALKED TO HER VERY REGULARLY. UM, SO YOU KNOW, MY ASK IS THAT WE BECAUSE I, I DO WANNA ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BILL IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A MOVING TARGET. SO FOR US TO MAKE A COMPLETE CHANGE, AND THEN I HAVE TO COME BACK AND MAKE SOME MORE UPDATES TO IT IS KIND OF A YOU KNOW, SORT OF TAKE, YOU KNOW, CHASING YOUR TAIL A LITTLE BIT. UM, MY REQUEST FOR A COMPROMISE WOULD BE THAT ONE. A BOOK IS GOING THROUGH RECONSIDERATION THAT THE BOOK BE REMOVED FROM THE SHELVES . THAT JUST SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. I BELIEVE WHEN THE FIRST TIME AROUND SO I WOULD I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO GET US. AS A PART OF THE NEXT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. AND HAVE A WORKSHOP AS A FULL BOARD SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT EVEN IF IT'S SUBTLE CHANGES TO THE CURRENT POLICY. I AM IN FULL AGREEMENT THAT THAT THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET WITH TRUSTEE DAY AND I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH WITH WITH YOU, DOCTOR GILLIAM AND YOU, UH, TRUSTEE MALONE THAT THAT THE BOOKS THAT WERE READ LAST MONTHS MEETING WHERE VERY HORRIBLE JUST AND I DO AGREE THAT THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THIS. THERE'S SOME SOME SOME MAYBE SOME VALUE TO SOME OF THAT THAT LITERATURE BUT IT'S UNSUPERVISED AT THIS POINT, AND THAT THAT ALSO IS A LITTLE ALARMING AND I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PO, POSSIBLY SOME ACCESS. IF THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN STUDENT AND PARENTS SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. IS MAKE A MOTION. FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AS ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. UM AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET SOME SUPPORT. AND THEN WE CAN. WE CAN RECONVENE WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE MEETING, AND THEN WE CAN BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING VERY, VERY LONG ON THIS, SO I MOVE. THAT THE BOARD POSTPONED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM UNTIL THE BOARD WORKSHOP THAT WILL BE HELD ON A DATE BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING ON APRIL 22ND 2024. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISIA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WELL. WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD ON A SEC. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WE DO NEED TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PROFESSIONALS WE NEED TO HEAR FROM LEGAL WE NEED TO HEAR FROM STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION TO GUIDE US ON IT. I THINK, BECAUSE WHETHER WE AGREE OR NOT. WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THERE AT SOME POINT. AND WE CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NINTH HOUR TO SAY OH, WELL. WE HAD A POLICY, BUT WE VOTED IT DOWN. SO AT LEAST WE'RE MAKING THE EFFORT. TO SEEK TO UNDERSTAND AND IF WE COME OUT OF IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE SO NOT YET. NO, NOT YET. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I MISS GARCIA AND THE SECOND BY MISS JONES, AND THE MOTION ITSELF IS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP. BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL. 22ND UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S UH, THAT'S THE MOTION.

[02:30:12]

AND SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH SEVEN OF US SO THAT WE CAN RUN TO THE FINISH LINE TO HAVE A VOTE ON A POLICY THAT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE CRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IS THE BEST FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE STAFF. IN FORT BEN ISD. SO WHAT? I WHAT I BECAUSE I YOU KNOW WHAT? I I UNDERSTAND TOMA. NOT ONE OF US MAKES A DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT. NOT THREE OF US

[02:35:02]

IT'S A MULTI STEP PROCESS. WE'RE DISCUSSION IS NOW ON TRUSTEE. HANAN'S MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND AFTER THE BOARD VOTES ON TRUSTY HANAN'S MOTION, THEN THERE WOULD BE A SECOND VOTE. FOR THE FOR THE MOTION FOR THE EITHER ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED OR ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. SO NOW, BUT THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IS REGARDING TO MISS HANNAN'S MOTION. CORRECT. SO I'M OPEN FOR THE DISCUSSION FOR MISS HAINAN'S MOTION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT EMOTION ABOUT HER EMOTION. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO AMEND THE MOTION. SEEK OUT INFORMATION. BEFORE WE MEET AS A POLICY COMMITTEE. FIRST YES. DURING A BOARD WORKSHOP WITH THE FULL BOARD. IN ATTENDANCE. OK SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS. WHAT WOULD THAT TIMELINE LOOK LIKE? I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WITH SEVEN PEOPLE THAT IS HARD TO NAIL DOWN A DATE. UH, AS MISS MALONE SAID, WE, UM PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE ALSO HAVING A BUDGET COMMITTEE COMING UP. PRETTY QUICKLY AND SO I KNOW NOW, UH, US ALL NAILING DOWN A DATE THAT WE CAN MEET THAT I'M ASSUMING, UM, YOU KNOW OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, UH, STAFF COUNSEL, OUR SUPERINTENDENT. OUR SUBJECT MATTER. EXPERTS PERHAPS SOME LIBRARIANS. I'M NOT SURE WHO WILL BE AT THAT WORKSHOP. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW THAT. THAT'S A DELICATE DANCE.

SO I, I CANNOT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE. THAT'S WHY PART OF MY MOTION WAS THAT THIS POLICY WOULD COME BACK FOR A VOTE IN THE BECAUSE I'M I FEAR THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA BE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND NOT ACTUALLY ADDRESSING IT. AND ATTACKING IT AND I'M NOT ONE TO PUT IT OFF AND KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS WHAT'S COME BEFORE YOU DISAGREE, SO LET'S WORK AT IT IN GETTING IT RIGHT. SO THAT WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'D BE LIKE. OH, WE'LL JUST DO IT LATER. NO, IT'S NOT. WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

JONES WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT IS THAT. I THINK YOU ARE MISCONSTRUING. UM THE AMENDED MOTION THAT I MADE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE TIMELINE. I'M LIKE. SUMMER I SAID IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK IN SUMMER. WE ARE NOW SITTING ON APRIL 8TH. AND II. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SCHOOL IS OUT, IS IT MAY 23RD UM , SO BETWEEN THE TIME THAT SUMMER IS HERE, WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE A BOARD WORKSHOP. THE POLICY COMMITTEE WOULD RECONVENE . SO AT MINIMUM WE NEED WE NEED TWO WEEKS. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WISE FOR ME TO RECOMMEND THAT A BOARD WORKSHOP HAPPEN THIS WEEK. BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE IS ALREADY BOOKED. PROBABLY BOOKED OUT TO NEXT WEEK. ALSO SO THAT PUTS US INTO LATE APRIL. FOR A BOARD WORKSHOP. SO ANYWAY, I THAT THAT IS LIKE TRYING TO CRAFT POLICY ON THE DAIS. I MEAN, WE CAN'T. I CAN'T ASK, UH,

[02:40:02]

SHOULD BE LIMITED TO TRUSTEE HANAN'S MOTION TO AMEND THE TIMELINE AND THIS LINE OF INQUIRY. I THINK THAT BEGAN WITH TRUSTY HAMILTON'S QUESTION OR STATEMENT WOULD BETTER BE RESERVED FOR AFTER A VOTE. ON TRUSTY HANAN'S MOTION TO AMEND OK, SO HE HE MAKES A GOOD POINT THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THE CAN WE RESPECT OUR LEGAL COUNSEL'S OPINION, AND THEN WE CAN LET'S LET'S VOTE ON MISS HANNAN'S MOTION. SO, UH, PLEASE VOTE. WHY DO WE VOTE? WE ARE VOTING ON MISS HENAN'S WE HEAR THE MOTION AGAIN. PLEASE, CAN YOU PLEASE WELL, IF I CAN IS IT OK IF I'M PARAPHRASING IN THE BALLPARK? I THINK YOU CAN SUMMARIZE. AND IF I MAY, I CAN ATTEMPT TO SUMMARIZE THE TRUSTEE. HANAN'S MOTION IS TO AMEND TRUSTEE GARCIA'S MOTION TO CONVENE A WORKSHOP AND BRING THIS ISSUE BACK AT SOME POINT IN THE SUMMER WITH THE SPECIFIC TIMELINES. NOT FOR AND I WOULD JUST ADD FOR CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, MR BRUSH. THAT PART OF MY MOTION ALSO INCLUDED THAT BETWEEN, UM THE TIME WE HAVE A BOARD WORKSHOP AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD IN THE SUMMER FOR A VOTE THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETS BETWEEN THOSE TWO DATES ON THE TIMELINE. AT LEAST ONCE THAN THANK YOU, MISS. THANK YOU, MISS HANNAN. THANK YOU, MR. UM BRUSH.

SO I. I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT BECAUSE, UH, BASED ON MISS HANNAH'S MOTION, UM, I HAVE TO I HAVE TO SHARE BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS I AM NOT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION. I WILL NOT BE

[02:45:02]

CLEAR. YEAH, YEAH.

MOTION PASSES 52. AND NOW WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE NOW TRUSTEE. GARCIA'S MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED AND THE BOARD WILL NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED. WHICH TO BE CLEAR, MISTER BRUSH.

I'M SORRY. YES, TO BE CLEAR IS VOTING ON. POSTPONEMENT OF FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD IN JUNE. THANK YOU, MR BRUSH. WELL TO BE CLEAR TRUSTEE HANAN. IT WOULD BE POSTPONEMENT OF FURTHER DISCUSSION UNTIL AFTER A WORKSHOP. THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO CONVENE AND THEN RETURN TO THE BOARD. IN THE SUMMER. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD YOUR EMOTION. CORRECT. THANK YOU.

MOTION PASSES 52. SO SINCE WE PASSED THIS TWO MOTION, WE'RE GONNA STOP THE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. I WANT TO THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR YOU BEING HERE AND FOR THE DISCUSSION. AND NEXT, OK, I KIND OF LOST WHERE WE ARE. SO NEXT WE

[9.I. VOCA Grant]

[9.J. TEKS Certification]

[02:50:10]

SO THAT'S UM MY ASK, BUT IF WE HAVE UNTIL MAY 1ST THAT'S CONCERNING. MY OTHER THING IS AS FAR AS FOUND, UM FOUNTAINS AND CANAL IF YOU GO TO THE TE, A WEBSITE IT'S NOT ON THE LIST OF COMPLIANT. RESOURCES USED AND I PRETTY MUCH PRINTED IT OUT ABOUT , UM WHAT CAN BE USED NOW? AS FAR AS THE THREE HEWING YES, THREE QUEUING HAS BEEN BANNED. HOWEVER. CALLED AN EXPERT TE A AND BASICALLY, I CALL IT THREE Q. THEY CALL IT MVS. WHICH BASICALLY MEANS AND I GOT THAT.

IT'S THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S MVS ANALYSIS. OK THEY FOUND IT BOUNCES IN PELL CALLS IT SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CERTIFICATION, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. COULD WE DELAY IT? LOOK MORE INTO IT. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN IN LINE AND COMPLIANT ONCE AGAIN WITH THE STATE STANDARDS. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO MISS JONES. IS THAT OK? IF UH, THE STAFF GET BACK TO YOU OFFLINE ON THIS? ON THIS QUESTION. YEAH AND LIKE I SAID, I WOULD LIKE THE NEW PERSON TO BE A PART OF THIS AS WELL TO SEE IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANT. SO IS THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THEY HAVE A GUIDELINE IN MAY SO CAN WE. CAN WE? UH, IF YOU HAVE EXTRA QUESTIONS, CAN YOU ASK THEM OFFLINE? AND THEN? UH THEN I'M SURE THE STAFF WILL GIVE YOU A REASON WHY THEY NEED TO PUT IT ON HERE AND THEN FOR BOTH FOR THE NEXT MEETING, I'M LIKE IF IT'S AMENDABLE, THEN, OK, THAT'S FINE. BUT IF WE CAN'T AMEND IT, THEN THAT'S PROBLEMATIC. IF WE'RE TRYING TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AS FAR AS TEACHING AND LEARNING FOR 2425 MISS JONES. THANK YOU. SO NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO OH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION. SORRY MISS HANNAH. I DIDN'T SEE IT, MISS HANNAN. OK SO, I. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY BECAUSE I HEAR MISS JONES SAYING WE WANT TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, AND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS CERTIFICATION. UM THAT INCLUDES THE RESOURCES THAT WE WERE CERTIFYING THAT WE USE.

MISS JONES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT WE WE'RE GOING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BASICALLY AND AS YOU WOULD SEE ON K 11 THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE PART OF OUR CURRICULUM THAT ARE EFFECTIVE AND NOT EFFECTIVE, AND I KNOW THERE'S A CONTROVERSY WITH BALANCED LITERACY AS FAR AS FOUNTAINS AND PANEL AND SO WE JUST CAN'T STICK TO THE STATUS QUO. AND SO I WOULD LIKE SOME MORE PROFESSIONAL INSIGHT WITH THE NEW DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT. THAT'S FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING TO COME IN AND SHARE AND ADD VALUE TO THE DIRECTION AS FAR AS TEACHING AND LEARNING AND THEIR VISION FOR TEACHING AND LEARNING AS WELL. OK SO, I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. THAT I UNDERSTAND MY ROLE ON THIS BOARD. WITH GOVERNANCE. I AM NOT MANAGEMENT. AND MANAGEMENT BRINGS THE ITEMS TO US. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A PARTISAN ISSUE WITH FOUNT AND PELL, AS IS THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH WORDS LIKE EQUITY AND DIVERSITY THAT WE ARE SYSTEMATICALLY REMOVING FROM POLICIES. SO THERE IS NO I. I JUST WANT TO II. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE ONE. I CLEARLY HEAR THAT THERE IS NO WAY THE NEW PERSON COMING IN CAN CAN BE PART OF THIS BECAUSE THEY THEY

[02:55:01]

THAT'S OUR LEVERAGE. THAT'S OUR LEVERAGE. WHERE WE LOOK AT OUR POLICIES AND SAY DO OUR POLI ARE OUR POLICIES WORKING FOR US IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT? WITH OUR CURRICULUM. SO TO ME, MISS JONES. THAT'S HOW WE CAN SAY. THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. BUT BUT BECOMING MANAGERS OF THE LITERACY RESOURCES AND POLICY. UM TO ME, THAT'S NOT MY JOB, AND THAT'S NOT AND I. I HEAR THAT YOU YOU YOU AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. I DO UNDERSTAND. WE'RE HERE TO QUESTION EVERYTHING YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IN THIS BOOK. UM BUT AT THE SAME TIME UM. YOU KNOW, I. I DON'T THINK THAT WE THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THE AUTHORITY. TO TELL STAFF OR TO TELL STAFF. PERHAPS WE CAN TELL MISS, UH DOCTOR SMITH. UM BUT I, I JUST I. I JUST I GOT CONFUSED BY YOUR STATEMENT THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GONNA GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

SO ANYWAY, I, I WILL STOP. I'M SORRY. LET ME CLARIFY, UM FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC ISSUE . OK, KIDS ARE NOT READING ON GRADE LEVEL. IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S OUR REALITY. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT WELL. ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE OF THE OTHER.

IT'S AN ACADEMIC ISSUE. KIDS ARE NOT READING AND AS I SAY THAT OK? IF YOU READ DOCTOR SMITH'S ENTRY PLAN. AND PARTED AT IS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. WE JUST CAN'T SAY OK, WELL WE'LL JUST ACCEPT AND THEN HE JUST HAS TO WORK WITH IT. I'M QUESTIONING IT. BECAUSE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT VISION THERE OR A DIFFERENT APPROACH, AND IF HE'S BRINGING THE EXPERTS IN IT, I'M ASKING IT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A SHORT TIME. COULD THEY BE A PART OF THAT? THAT'S MY ASK NOT WELL, AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME OR ANYBODY ELSE. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC QUESTION. THIS IS AN ACADEMIC WHEN IT COMES TO ME, I'M THINKING ABOUT IS THIS WHAT'S BEST FOR KIDS? AND IF HE'S HIRING THE PROFESSIONAL TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN THAT CAPACITY. THEN I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO GUIDE THE STAFF. HOW THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW HIS VISION IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND I RESPECT YOU ASKING THE SUPERINTENDENT. HIS MISSION AND THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE, TOO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HANNAN. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. CAN I JUST CHECK IN BECAUSE MISS JONES? FIRST OF ALL THE AGENDA ITEM, WHERE? HERE UM, IT WAS REVEALED AND APPROVED.

UH, BY BOTH DR SMITH AND MYSELF, AND SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF HE IS A DOCTOR SMITH HAS CONCERNS. UM WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE YOU KNOW THIS ON THIS AGENDA, BUT I DO. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS AND ALSO MISS HANNAH I. I DO BELIEVE WE ALL HAVE A LEARNING CURVE.

UH, WHEN WE GET ON THE BOARD AND, UH, AND FOR THAT REASON, I, I DO APPRECIATE DOCTOR SMITH'S ALREADY SCHEDULED, UH, A TEAM BUILDING AND, UH, FOR THE BOARD OF GOVERNANCE, UM, TRAINING, SO I DO BELIEVE WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBER. UM HERE IN MAY, IT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE WHOLE BOARD. SO UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA CLEAR THE QUEUE. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE

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