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GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS 601 PM AND THIS MEETING IS HEREBY CALL TO ORDER. WE HAVE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM, ATTENDING BOTH IN PERSON AND ON A VIDEO CONFERENCE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE AND AT THE FORT BEN ICE D ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS.
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THERE ARE FIVE SPEAKERS TODAY THE BOARDING COURREGES AND WELCOMES COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM OUR PATRONS. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND PLEASE REFRAIN FROM MENTIONING STUDENT OR AN EMPLOYEE'S NAME WHEN VOICING A CONCERN OR COMPLAINT AS BOARD POLICY PROVIDES ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES THROUGH THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS POLICIES G F LOCAL AND D G B, A LOCAL TO SEEK RESOLUTION TO COMPLAINTS I WILL READ THE NAME OF THE PERSON REGISTERED TO SPEAK AND SHARE THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS. ONCE THE SPEAKER STARTS THEIR COMMENTS, THE BOARD SECRETARY, MR DAVID HAMBLETON, WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN THEY HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING ONCE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT HAS EXPIRED, AND WHETHER THE SPEAKER HAS CONCLUDED THEIR COMMENTS. MR HAMBLETON WILL ANNOUNCE THAT THE SPEAKER'S TIME HAS ELAPSED. THEN WE'LL ASK THAT YOU RETURN TO YOUR SEAT. DR GARY UM, OFFICER WALTON NEEDS TO READ STARTING, OKAY? MY APOLOGIES. I'M GONNA OFFICER WALTON, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ? THANK YOU. IT WAS NOT MY SCRIPT, MR OFFICER WALDEN. MY APOLOGIES. MAY I PLEASE HAVE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION BEFORE THE MEETING BEGAN. WE ASK THAT EVERYONE PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. BEFORE BEING I S D BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEETING IS OPEN MEETING BY THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE BOARD CONDUCTING DISTRICT BUSINESS. THEREFORE PATRIOTS MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE BOARD DURING THE DESIGNATED AUDIENCE ITEMS SECTION ON THE AGENDA. IF YOU ARE PRINTING MATERIALS, YOU WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD MEMBERS YOU MUST PROVIDE THEM TO ME OR ANY OFFICER PRESENT, AND WE WILL PROVIDE THEM TO BOARD MEMBERS.WE ALSO ASKED THAT MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS BY REMAINING QUIET SO THAT EVERYONE IS ABLE TO HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SERGEANT WALTON. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JOHN STRAIGHTER. SURE. GOOD EVENING BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT SMITH.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PASTOR JOHN STRAIGHTER. I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR OF HORIZON BAPTIST CHURCH IN MISSOURI CITY, TEXAS. I HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND FORT BEND DST AND ALSO SERVED AS THE BOARD CHAIR OF THE FORD BEEN INTERFAITH COMMUNITY. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TOWARDS THE STATE BILL 763, AND WE'D LIKE TO JUST SAY A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE AS WELL TO STAND TOGETHER FOR THIS. WE ARE OF THE OPINION THAT WE YOU ARE ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS TO BRING IT TO A VOTE ON THIS ACTION, AND WE BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD REJECT THAT, UH, TO BRING THAT TO THIS COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY WE ASK THAT YOU REJECT THAT WE ARE WE ARE. WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY OF CHAPLAINS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE SOME PAPERWORK HERE SHORTLY FROM TEXAS. IMPACT WE STAND TOGETHER TO BELIEVE THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, IT SHOULD BE AN ALL OR NONE APPROACH, AND WE BELIEVE BECAUSE OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND FORT BEND ASD THAT WE MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE SEVERAL CHAPLAINS FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS MAY NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ACTIVE IN THE SCHOOL, AND THERE ARE CHILDREN OF ALL FAITHS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT, TOO. PROVIDES PARENTAL CONSENT WHEN DEALING WITH THOSE MATTERS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE NATURE OF THE STATE SENATE BILL WAS NOT PUT TOGETHER. WELL, THERE'S NO DEFINITION OF THE WORD CHAPLAIN THERE. NO CONSIDERATION FOR QUALIFICATIONS. NO CONSIDERATIONS FOR, UH WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT THEIR SCOPE IS. AND SO ALSO THE THERE'S NO, UM THEIR WORK THERE FOR WHAT TRAINING THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE OR THE STANDARD ALSO TO HAVE THE COMPETENT BACKGROUND WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES OR SUICIDE PROVISION. MOST CHAPLAINS DO NOT HAVE THAT TRAINING. AND I BELIEVE ALSO THAT FOR OUR FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE'VE COME TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THIS AS A INTERFAITH COMMUNITY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER LEFT OUTSIDE OF SCHOOLS. WE BELIEVE IN CHAPLAINS AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO, BUT WITHIN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT THAT SHOULD NOT BE BROUGHT INTO THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY REALLY THE NATURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS IN OUR STATE THAT HAVE ALREADY TURNED THIS DOWN. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. AND SO WE JUST URGE YOU THAT YOU AS YOU CONSIDER THIS TO I BELIEVE AS WELL THAT YOUR POLICY COMMITTEE HAS MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU TO NOT
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TAKE THIS UP. SO WE ARE HERE TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THAT. WE BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR 30 SECONDS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. MHM MHM ANGIE, WHERE'S BECKY? ALL RIGHT. I HAD TO DO MOVE MY MICROPHONE DOWN. GOOD EVENING. I, UM I KNOW MOST OF YOU. THANK YOU TRUSTEES FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. OBVIOUSLY THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA. MY NAME'S ANGIE. WHERE'S VICKY? THANK YOU, DR SMITH. I HAVE TWO KIDS AT QUAIL VALLEY ELEMENTARY AND AN ACTIVE PARENT IN FORT BEND DST AS WELL AND BEFORE FRIDAY WHEN THE AGENDA WAS RELEASED WITH THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION, I WAS I HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE STRONGER WORDS TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHERE I STOOD AS A PARENT, BUT I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION FROM THE POLICY COMMITTEE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA IN TO REJECT THE SENATE BILL 763 ADOPTING ANY CHANGE, ALLOWING CHAPLAINS TO ACT AS COUNSELORS IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT PASTOR STRAIGHTER MENTIONED, BUT ALSO AS A PARENT, UM WHAT I CHOOSE FOR MY CHILDREN OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL. WHETHER FAITH BASED OR NOT, IS WHAT I CHOOSE WHERE IT'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY'RE SEEING A COUNSELOR, IT IS SOMEONE WHO IS TRAINED IN THE OUT IN THE MENTAL HEALTH AREAS THEY NEED AND SO AS AN ACTIVE PARENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HEAR US PARENTS OUT HERE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE CHOOSE. WE DON'T NEED TO POLITICIZE ANY OF THIS IN OUR SCHOOLS, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT TO SEE THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION POLICY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION AND JUST WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR GLENN HOPKINS. HI I'VE WRITTEN A NUMBER OF EMAILS OVER THE YEARS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO THIS IS THE FACE BEHIND THOSE EMAILS. I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF. UM THIS PAST AUGUST, I SOMEWHERE EMAIL TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD CHAPLAINS, AND IT REFERRED TO OPEN LETTER FROM CHAPLIN ACROSS THE STATE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ALL ACROSS THE STATE PARTICULARLY REASONS TO DECLINE THE ADOPTION OF PUBLIC SCHOOL CHAPLAINS. I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE THOSE REASONS HERE ADD A LITTLE ANECDOTE. THIS, UH. PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FROM VARIOUS FAITH TRADITIONS IS A WONDERFUL THING. THE STUDY HAS STARTED DIFFERENCES WORKING TO COMMON CAUSE ONE SUCH EXPRESSION OF THIS IS THE END OF FORT BEND INTERFAITH THANKSGIVING EVENT. REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE VARIOUS FAITH TRADITIONS FOUND IN FORT BEND COUNTY GATHERED TO GIVE THANKS IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE STYLE AND CUSTOM, INCLUDING PROTESTANTS. CATHOLICS JEWS, MUSLIMS, HINDUS AND BUDDHISTS.FINDING A PLACE IN TIME WHEN THE THOSE AFFAIRS FAITH TRADITIONS GATHER AS ONE WAS WELCOME RELIEF FROM IN 2016 GIVEN A VISUAL AND THE KIND OF THINGS WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT CAMPAIGN. IT WAS AN EXPRESSION OF UNITY. AND THAT WAS A VERY WONDERFUL THING HERE, RIGHT HERE IN FORT BEND COUNTY AND AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE OAKLAND INTERFAITH COUNCIL. AT ONE OF THOSE GATHERINGS WAS CONGRESSMAN PETE OLSON. HE WAS NOT UP IN FRONT. BUT THE CITY ONE OF THE PEWS IN THE CHURCH, WHERE THE EVENT WAS HELD MY WIFE AND I HAPPEN TO BE SITTING IN THE PEW THAT SAME TO YOU. OKAY WE SUPPORTED HIS HIS OPPONENT, SHRI KULKARNI. AT THE END EVENT, AND SO WHAT DO I SAY? SILENCE. I DON'T THINK SO. I SIMPLY SAID PEACE AND ALSO IN THE NEIGHBOR'S SRI PRESTON KULKARNI, AND THAT SEEMS VERY APPROPRIATE THING TO SAY AT THE TIME. PEACE BETWEEN OPPONENTS. AMAZING THINGS CAN HAPPEN WHEN FAITH TRADITIONS GATHERED TOGETHER IN COMMON CAUSE. AMONG THESE COMMON CAUSES IS THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN. DECLINING THE APPOINTMENT. SCHOOL CHAPLAINS AND EVERYBODY ICE TEA IS SIMPLY A RECOGNITION OF THE GOOD WHICH IS ALREADY HAPPENING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS CAROL HOPKINS. AND ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER. WHO'S THAT QUAIL VALLEY ELEMENTARY. AND SO I EMAILED EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD AS WELL. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT, UM, AUSTIN AND DUNCANVILLE I S D AND H I S T HAVE ALREADY CHOSEN TO REDUCTION. THE SCHOOL CHAPLAINS, AND I URGED THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO DECLINE TO ADOPT A SPECIFIC POLICY. AUTHORIZING THE DISTRICT TO EMPLOY OR ACCEPT HIS
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VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN UNDER CHAPTER 23 EDUCATION CODE, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT THAT CAME OUT AND I REALLY URGE YOU EACH TO CONSIDER THAT AND CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE VARIOUS, UH, FAITH TRADITIONS THAT WE DO HAVE HERE BECAUSE MY FIRST CONCERN WAS THAT WE DO LIVE IN A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY. AND, UM IF YOU BRING ANY SINGULAR FAITH TRADITION INTO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT VIOLATES THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. IN THE FREEDOM OF OUR RELIGION. WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH FAITH TRADITION AND THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE ONE. WE NEED TO ALLOW FAMILIES WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND COUNSEL NEEDED FOR THEIR CHILD. THERE IS NO NEED TO BRING IN A DESIGNATED PERSON FROM ANY ONE FAITH TRADITION INTO A PUBLIC SETTING. THERE ARE NO CLEAR GUIDELINES. SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS NO CLEAR GUIDELINES ARE QUALIFICATIONS AS UM, HE MENTIONED THE PASTOR MENTIONED IT COULD BE ANYONE WHO DESIRES TO VOLUNTEER AND HAS NOT HAD TRAINING IN ACTUAL COUNSELING. SCHOOL GUIDANCE.COUNSELORS ARE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO GUIDE STUDENTS IN COURT SELECTION AND ALSO IN MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, SUCH AS SUICIDE ABUSE, BULLYING. AND DEPRESSION, ETCETERA. AND ALSO AS MY HUSBAND MENTIONED THE JOINT COMMITTEE FOR THE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AND THE INTERFAITH ALLIANCE AND TEXAS IMPACT HAVE ALL MADE STATEMENTS TO THE STATE. UM IN REGARDS TO THIS ONE OF THEM WAS AMANDA TYLER, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BAPTIST JOINT COMMISSION, AND SHE STATES THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT THE PLACE FOR RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION. IT IS BEST LEFT TO HOUSES OF WORSHIP, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND FAMILIES. SHE ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE GROWING CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM OR THE DIVISION THAT EXISTS BETWEEN US, AND THAT ONLY MAKES IT. UM UH, MAKES THE GAP WIDER. SO THE LETTER TO THE SCHOOL BOARD CONCLUDED. WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND PARENTAL RIGHTS BY REJECTING THIS HARMFUL PROGRAM TO HAVE GOVERNMENT APPROVED CHAPLAINS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE BELIEVE THAT OUR STRONG PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS ONE IN WHICH THE LIMITED FUNDING OF SAFETY AND SECURITY OF STUDENTS IS USED TO HIRE THE MOST SKILLED PROFESSIONALS FOR THOSE ROLES.
WE BELIEVE THAT FAMILIES NOT GOVERNMENT ARE ENTRUSTED WITH THEIR CHILDREN'S SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT. ALSO 30 SECONDS, OKAY, JUST THE DEFINITION OF CHAPTER CHAPLAINS. THEY ORGANIZE A REALLY LEAD RELIGIOUS SERVICES , USUALLY IN A LOCATION OTHER THAN A CHURCH, AND IT'S USUALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF A SERVICE LIKE PEOPLE ARE INCARCERATED, HOSPITALIZED OR DEPLOYED. AND IN HOSPITALS, BUT NOT REALLY IN SCHOOLS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MISS I'M SORRY, SUMITA. GOSH. AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I MISPRONOUNCED. HI I'M SUMIDA GOSH, WELCOME SUPERINTENDENT SMITH. HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T GET TO HEAR TOO MUCH FROM ME YEARS PROGRESS, BUT, UM UH, I'M HERE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED POLICY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, THAT THE NEW OF 673 NOT BE ADOPTED. BECAUSE HONESTLY, SIMPLY PUT, IT'S A SOLUTION THAT'S LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST IN FOURTH DYNASTY. I HAVE TWO KIDS ATTENDING FORTMAN HONESTY. UM, I WAS VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR VOLUNTEER OF THE MONTH. MULTIPLE CAMPUSES AND, HONESTLY, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN SCHOOLS THAT NEED VOLUNTEERS. BUT A LOT OF THE SCHOOLS DON'T BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A VERY ENGAGED COMMUNITY AND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO. WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS AS A PARENT IS HAVING, UM CERTAIN PEOPLE OF CERTAIN DENOMINATIONS COMING IN AND THE MY KIDS FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE I PRACTICE A RELIGION THAT DOES NOT PROSELYTIZE. WE DON'T GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO JOIN US. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ASPECT OF MOST RELIGION. INS AND I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO FEEL LIKE OH, WELL, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG AND DIDN'T DIDN'T WITH ME. AND SO IT'S JUST AN ADDED PRESSURE THAT OUR KIDS DON'T NEED. SO I ACTUALLY THINK HAVING CHAPLAINS IN SCHOOLS WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE PROBLEMS THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED. AND SO AGAIN, UM, PLEASE CONSIDER ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION THE COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION TO NOT ADOPT THE STATES. UH HUH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROBLEM THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE SOLUTION. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE ON. MY APOLOGIES, PRESIDENT JUDY DAY IS UNDER THE WEATHER RIGHT NOW, AND WE HOPE THAT SHE GETS WELL VERY QUICKLY. NOW THIS WILL BE THE TIME TO CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO JUST MOVE THIS TRAIN ON. I
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HAND THIS OVER TO DR SMITH. WE HAVE ONE INFORMATION ITEM, AND THAT'S THE BOND UPDATE. AND DR SMITH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM. VICE PRESIDENT, BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS EVENING. AS MADAM VICE PRESIDENT STATED, WE DO HAVE ONE INFORMATION ITEM TONIGHT AND IT IS ON THE BOND WANTED TO GIVE JUST SOME PERSPECTIVE AS WE BEGIN TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS MY FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. I WAS A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS AND HAD CONCERNS AND LOTS OF QUESTIONS.REGARDING VARIOUS PARTS OF THE BOND PROGRAM. AND SO BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, I TOOK IT AS A TYPE PRIORITY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK OUT TO THE BOARD. TO BE TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED AND WHAT STEPS WILL HAVE TO TAKE MOVING FORWARD TO CLOSE THE FINANCIAL GAP THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. AND SO I IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO CONDUCT A SERIES OF MEETINGS I MET WITH DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT MR BASSETT ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AND THEN I ALSO MET WITH MEMBERS OF MR BASSETT'S TEAM. UM ALSO MET WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM P. B K. MR RON BAILEY. I REACHED OUT TO HIM. TO GET PERSPECTIVE. AND SO THE GOAL TONIGHT IS REALLY TO, UH, BE RESPONSIVE TO THE BOARD AND SHARE WHAT I'VE LEARNED SHARE INFORMATION THAT THE TEAM IS PREPARED TO PROVIDE FOR YOU ALL CENTERED AROUND ANSWERING TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, QUESTIONS THAT WERE INITIATED ON THE JANUARY 22ND BOARD MEETING AS WELL AS SINCE THAT TIME, AS I'VE SPOKEN WITH A FEW OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ALSO WANTED TO JUST BRING SOME PERSPECTIVE TO THE NEW STAFF MEMBERS AS THEY WILL BE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. MOST OF THEM WERE NOT EMPLOYED IN THE DISTRICT AT THE TIME, THAT A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT WERE GRAPPLING WITH TODAY WERE BEING MADE. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I GAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE AS THEY MAY NOT HAVE FIRSTHAND INFORMATION OR FIRST ACCOUNT OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE BACK AT THAT TIME, AND CERTAINLY MAYBE NOT SOME OF THE DECISIONS AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO GAIN AS MUCH INFORMATION IN DETAIL AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE COULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THE BOARD. AND ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THE BOND PROGRAM AND THEN SHARE OUR PLANS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING MOVING FORWARD. ADDITIONALLY JUST BEING RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD A FEW WEEKS AGO WILL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE MONTHLY TO THE BOARD SO THAT YOU HAVE A MUCH MORE TIMELY INFORMATION, UM, RELATED TO WHERE WE ARE AND ALL ASPECTS AND YOU HAVE A PRETTY TIMELY MANNER TO BE ABLE TO TRACK HOW WE'RE TRENDING. UM ON ALL SCOPES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOND PROGRAM . I'VE ASKED DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT MR BASSETT TO START THE PRESENTATION, AND HE'LL DO THAT. AND THEN HE'LL BRING UP OTHER TEAM MEMBERS AS THEIR TIME COMES IN THE PRESENTATION, SO I'LL TURN IT UP WITH MR BASSETT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR SMITH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, SO WE HAVE OUR UPDATE ON THE ON THE BOND. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH NOW. SO SORRY. I FORGOT TO ADD BOARD MEMBERS. YOU DO HAVE A HARD COPY OF EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU. AS MR BASSETT IS PRESENTING. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE A SHORTFALL WITH OUR WITH OUR BUDGET, ALLUDED TO THAT WHENEVER FIRST GOT TOGETHER LAST LAST DECEMBER, BUT THAT WAS JUST HAD A VERY HIGH LEVEL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING SOME POTENTIAL LAND SALES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME MORE QUANTIFICATION BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 132 MILLION. CURRENTLY THAT'S THE CURRENT NUMBER WE HAVE, BUT THERE'S WAYS THAT THAT CAN GO DOWN. THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL FOR IT TO GO UP AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. HOW DO WE GET HERE? YOU KNOW, SO THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH OUR INITIAL PLANNING PROCESS, AND I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AND THEN ANOTHER KEY FACTORS CONSTRUCTION INFLATION. OKAY SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL ALL THE DISTRICTS ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. AND THEN AGAIN, SO IF WE KNOW THIS, WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, SO JUST SORT OF HIGH LEVEL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERING. OKAY SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU KNOW, AS DR SMITH ALLUDED TO SOME OF THE FOLKS WEREN'T HERE THAT ARE HERE THAT NOW THAT ARE DEALING WITH WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. SO IF YOU IN THIS TIMELINE THIS IS EARLY FOR THIS IS LATE. 2022 IS WHERE THIS STARTED. I WAS HERE THE WHOLE TIME, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T NEED MY PICTURE. I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO ANYWAY. I WAS HERE THIS WHOLE TIME. I WAS A COMMON ELEMENT AS AS ARE YOU, DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT. SO OSCAR PEREZ, WHO HAD BEEN WITH THE DISTRICT SOMETIMES YOU REMEMBER OSCAR HE HE RETIRED. HIS LAST MONTH IN OFFICE WAS NOVEMBER 2022 AND HE WAS ON STAFF IN
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DECEMBER, BUT HE DIDN'T COME IN THOSE DAYS. YOU KNOW, HE TOOK THOSE DAYS OFF. AND SO, BUT HE EXITED THE DISTRICT. CHRIS GENTE CAME IN AS THE INTERIM. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? HE CAME IN AND FEBRUARY? OKAY AND HE WAS HERE THROUGH JUNE WHEN HE CAME IN THROUGH 1. FEBRUARY CAME. YOU KNOW, I WAS WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT THAT TIME, AND SO I TOLD CHRIS, YOU KNOW, HEY, JUST FOCUS, HE SAID. HOW CAN I HELP YOU SAID WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON TRANSPORTATION, JUST FOCUS ON FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE. SO HE REALLY WASN'T INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE PLANNING AND SETTING THE FINAL NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, SO BUT HE WAS HERE THEN DAMON WAS OUR, UH, WHEN ALL THIS ALL THIS STARTED, HE WAS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE. THE THAT GROUP DIDN'T HAVE A BIG ROLE IN THE PLANNING. THE ONLY REASON WHY I HAVE THAT ROLL DOWN BELOW IS BECAUSE DAMIAN ENDED UP BECOMING THE C 00 AS YOU KNOW, AND HE TOOK THAT ROLE FULL TIME IN JUNE , OKAY? AND SO, SO ANYWAY, THE MIDDLE ROWS ARE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. DESIGNER CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN OUR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND SO WE HAD WE HAD ONE MONTH IN OCTOBER OF 23. AND JUST THAT MONTH THERE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN PLACE. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE TIMELINE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE KEY UP ABOVE THAT WORKING KIND OF FROM THE MIDDLE YOU HAVE THE BOND WAS CALLED IN. MAY OF 2023. ALRIGHT. OF COURSE. YOU KNOW WE WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH IT, WHICH IS GREAT. UM BUT THEN WE HAD THE BOND ELECTION WAS IN MAY. WE CALLED IT IN IN FEBRUARY OF 23 AND THEN BACK IN NOVEMBER, 22. OKAY ONE OF THE THINGS ARE ARE DESIGNING CONSTRUCTION TEAM.ALRIGHT ASKED OUR CONSULTANTS FOR SOME INFORMATION TRYING TO VERIFY WHERE WE WERE IN SOME OF OUR PLANNING FACTORS, OKAY? AND SO, UH, QUESTION WAS SENT RESPONSE WAS RECEIVED. AND SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE DIDN'T ACT ON THAT INFORMATION. THE INFORMATION WASN'T SHARED.
WITH ME. IT WASN'T SHARED WITH OSCAR. AND IT WASN'T SHARED WITH ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ORGANIZATION. OKAY AND SO THAT WAS IN THE NOVEMBER AND THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT IT.
ASKED ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR NEW SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE PRICE PER FOOT PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT ASSUMPTIONS, OKAY, AND WHENEVER WE GOT WHENEVER THAT INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTED AT THE TIME GAVE THE INFORMATION BUT AS I SAID, THAT INFORMATION WASN'T USED, AND WE DIDN'T MODIFY OR PLANNING ASSUMPTIONS WITH ANY NEW INFORMATION. OKAY SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, ALL RIGHT? NOW THE PURPOSE OF THIS NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE PLANNING NUMBERS.
THESE AREN'T ACTUAL NUMBERS. OKAY, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE IT'S A SHOW YOU FOR OUR MAJOR PROJECTS AND THAT EMAIL FOCUSED ON MAJOR PROJECTS. IT DIDN'T DIDN'T FOCUS ON ANYTHING ELSE. IT WAS ABOUT THE MAJOR PROJECTS, THOSE NEW SCHOOLS AND THE BIG ROCKS IN THE IN OUR IN OUR BOND PLAN. AND SO THESE ARE THESE ARE ALL PART OF PROPOSITION A FROM BOND 2023 THE MAJOR PROJECTS AND SO YOU CAN INCLUDE YOU CAN SEE THE TO REBUILD. CLEMENS FERNDALE, HENRY MIDDLE SCHOOL, 16, THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE NATATORIUM AND THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. THOSE ARE THE ALL THE BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. EVERYTHING ELSE MAKING UP THE BOND IS, YOU KNOW IT IS DOWN THE LIST, BUT THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE RENOVATIONS AND ALL, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THOSE IS ABOUT 600 MILLION, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE IS THE SHOW THAT IF WE HAD ACTED ON THE INFORMATION RECEIVED BY THE CONSULTANT, WE WOULD HAVE COME TO THE BOARD IF WE WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR MORE TO ADD TO THE BUDGETS. OKAY THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. AND SO YOU CAN SEE. WHAT IF WE HAD INCLUDED THOSE THAT INFORMATION CALCULATING EVERYTHING OUT THE BUDGET FOR THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO 600 MILLION. OKAY AND YOU CAN SEE THE DELTA THERE AND HOW IT CALCULATES OUT WITH WITH A GAP OF A GAP IN $93.6 MILLION AGAIN. THESE ARE PLANNING NUMBERS. THESE ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW ACTUAL. OKAY BUT IF WE HAD HAD THIS INFORMATION, AND IT HAD BEEN ACTED ON THEN WE WOULD HAVE HAD A CHANCE AT THAT TIME BACK IN NOVEMBER TO ADJUST OUR BUDGETS, BUT THE FACT IS THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT. OKAY, AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN. NOW WE'RE GOING TO I'M GONNA BRING UP DAN DAN. YOU GO AND START COMING UP. SO DAN'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO THIS THIS ISSUE WITH THE PLANNING, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE, OKAY, AND THAT'S CAUSED SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. BUT THEN CONSTRUCTION INFLATION'S ALSO ALSO A BIG DEAL, AND DAN IS GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT HERE IN A BED. GOOD AFTERNOON EVENING, EVERYONE WELL, IN ADDITION TO THE ISSUES THAT STEVE JUST DESCRIBED. WE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER MARKET
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FACTORS THAT COMPOUNDED OUR BUDGET CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. UH ONE OF THE FIRST ONE. IS THAT WHAT WE CALL HYPERINFLATION? HOUSTON, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE HEADLINES AND THE SLIDE HERE, UM , ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS EXPERIENCING SOME OF THE HIGHEST INFLATION IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. THE OTHER CHART BEHIND THAT HEADLINE IS FROM THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND IT SHOWS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COST OF LIVING HERE IN TEXAS IS STILL A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, THE INFLATION RATE IS CLIMBING FASTER THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, AND SO INFLATION IS REALLY HIT US. JOSEPH FEW EXAMPLES THINGS LIKE CEILING GRID, YOU SEE HOW MUCH THAT'S UP CEILING TOWEL COPPER, AND YOU CAN IMAGINE BETWEEN WIRING AND ALL THE CEILINGS IN OUR SCHOOL. HOW MUCH OF THOSE MATERIALS WE BUY? AND HOW EVEN JUST 510 20% INCREASES. CAN REALLY IMPACT OUR CONSTRUCTION BUDGETS AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS, GETTING THE MATERIALS TO US. UM HAS BEEN DIFFICULT. A LOT OF PORTS DON'T HAVE TRUCKERS TO BRING MATERIALS INTO TOWN INTO THE CENTER OF THE COUNTRY. AND SO WE'RE EXPERIENCING REALLY HIGH COST FOR THAT, AND THEN LABOR HAS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE THE PANDEMIC, UH, FINDING SKILLED LABOR FOR THE CONTRACTORS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT DEAL. A LOT OF CONTRACTORS HAVE HAD TO RAISE COSTS. 73% OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT THEY'VE HAD TO RAISE THEIR WAGES TO BOTH ATTRACT AND KEEP WORKERS. UM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE DAVIS BACON ACT.AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN OPEN SHOP REGION, THE CHANGES HAVE HAD A SNOWBALL EFFECT, EVEN ON NON UNION WAGES, AND SO THAT'S HAD AN IMPACT. THE OTHER FACTOR. ONE OF THE OTHER FACTORS IN SOME OF THE GLOBAL CONFLICTS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE AROUND THE WORLD WE HAVE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TWO WARS GOING ON JAPAN JUST HAD AN EARTHQUAKE OF WHILE EARLIER AND JANUARY AND, UM JAPAN IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR EXPORTERS OF STEEL. WE'RE NOT SURE YET WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. RUSSIA IS A MAJOR EXPORTER OF ALUMINUM AND COPPER, OR DO YOU THINK ABOUT OUR WINDOWS SYSTEMS ARE TYPICALLY ALUMINUM DOORFRAMES ARE ALUMINUM, COPPER OR AGAIN, THIS IS GOING BACK TO OUR WIRING CABLING. SWITCHGEAR EQUIPMENT ALL HAVE A HIGH AMOUNT OF COPPER. UM I EVEN FOUND OUT IN THE PAST. NOT THAT LONG AGO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT IT TURNS OUT THAT UKRAINE IS WHERE A LOT OF ELECTRONICS ARE MADE A LOT OF THE PRECIOUS METALS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR ELECTRONIC. UH APPARENTLY COME OUT OF UKRAINE, UNFORTUNATELY, FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY BY NOT BEING ABLE TO GET SOMETHING THAT SOME EQUIPMENT FOR CLASSROOMS THAT I REALLY NEEDED THE DEMAND ON LOCAL CONSTRUCTION MARKET HAS BEEN A BIG IMPACT. UH, TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER THREE CONSTRUCTION AND STARTED, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE LARGEST MEDICAL CENTER IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE MEDICAL CENTER THREE. WE WILL HAVE THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD AND QUITE A FEW OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ALREADY UP AND THE VIEW GO ANYWHERE NEAR, UM ALWAYS T. UH SPANISH TRAIL FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR. YOU'LL SEE CRANES EVERYWHERE AND SO THAT AND YOU ALSO WILL SEE SIGNS ON THE FENCE THAT ARE THE VERY SAME SIGNS THAT YOU SEE ON OUR FENCES AROUND OUR CAMPUSES. AND SO THOSE SAME CONTRACTORS ARE BEING USED BY THE MEDICAL CENTER. THE REGIONAL HOUSING IS BOOMING. YOU KNOW ALL WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF US DRIVING HOME. WE SEE HOW MUCH THE HOUSING IS GOING AND WE CAN'T FORGET THE FACT THAT BOTH SEVERAL OF THE LOCAL CITIES AND THE COUNTY PAST BONDS AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE DID, AND SO AGAIN, THOSE SAME CONTRACTORS ARE BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE RESOURCES TO THESE CLIENTS AS WELL. AND THEN ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH ON WE HAD 23 SEPARATE MULTI BILLION DOLLAR UH, DISASTERS IN 2023 3 OF THOSE ARE RIGHT HERE IN TEXAS. AND SO THOSE AGAIN BEGAN TO ABSORB CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS WORKERS, ETCETERA. THEN WE HAD NEARLY $10 BILLION WORTH OF LOCAL SCHOOL BONDS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. IN ADDITION TO HOURS MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THIS LIST THAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 10 BILLION IN LOCAL SCHOOL BONDS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TEXAS. I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, OUR NEIGHBORS BASICALLY OUR SISTER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. ALL HAD BONDS RECENTLY AND AGAIN, THEY'RE USING THE SAME ARCHITECTS AND CONTRACTORS, UM AND SAME MATERIAL, SAME SUPPLIERS, EQUIPMENT VENDORS, AND SO THAT
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DEMAND IS HAVING AN IMPACT. AND THEN ACROSS THE STATE, WE HAD ALMOST 49 BILLION IN SCHOOL BONDS. MM HMM. YEAH NOW IS STEVE MENTIONED BY THE WAY, AND THAT LAST LIGHT, STEVE MENTIONED THE FACT THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE EXPERIENCING THOSE PROBLEMS AND THEY ARE AND, UM, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH , EXPERIENCED IT WAS ABOUT A 25.UH OVERRUN ON ONE OF THEIR PREVIOUS BONDS, AND THEN THEY HAD TO TAKE SOME MEASURES. IN FACT, IN THEIR CASE, I BELIEVE THEY INCLUDED THE OVER RIDGE. THE SHORTFALL IN A SUBSEQUENT BOND, AND SO THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR, UM BOND SCHOOL DISTRICTS EXPERIENCES KIND OF CHALLENGES WHEN THEY HAPPEN. NOW STEVE SHOWED YOU WHERE PLANNING WISE WE WOULD BE AND WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU IN THIS SLIDE. THIS IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE. RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE SNAPSHOT OF OUR CURRENT STATUS. AND SO ON ARE MAJOR PROJECTS. WE ARE LOOKING AT A $72 MILLION SHORTFALL AND RENOVATION PROJECTS. WE'RE LOOKING AT A 60.6 ALMOST $61 MILLION SHORTFALL. QUITE A BIT OF THAT IS, UM. CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH A COUPLE OF OUR PACKAGES, ATHLETICS AND ATHLETICS RENOVATIONS, TURF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING IN CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN WAS PLANNED IN THE ORIGINAL BOND. UH, THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE MUCH CLOSER AND BETTER IN SHAPE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT FROM THE SHEETS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE LONG SPREADSHEETS THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DETAIL THAT MAKE UP IS THE NUMBER OF A TOTAL OF 132 MILLION ALMOST $133 MILLION SHORTFALL. ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE QUICK THING. AS YOU SAW IN THE PLANNING IF WE HAD USED THE NUMBERS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE USED AND WHAT WE THINK THE MARKET IS NOW WE WOULD HAVE HAD RIGHT AT ABOUT A 93 IF I REMEMBER $93 MILLION SHORTFALL IN THE MAJOR PROJECTS, I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THAT FROM OUR LATEST ESTIMATES, WE HAVE A $72.1 MILLION SHORTFALL. THAT'S THE RESULT OF MY TEAMS WORK SINCE, ACTUALLY, EVEN BEFORE I CAME. THE TEAM IS ALREADY STARTED WORKING HARD WITH THE ARCHITECTS WITH THE CONTRACTORS WITH EVERYONE TO TRY TO, UH, REDUCE THAT SHORTFALL, AND SO ALREADY THEY'VE REDUCED IT. I GUESS IT WAS 90. I'M SORRY, I SAID 93 PLUS 90. AH THEY'VE ALREADY REDUCED THE AMOUNT BY $18 MILLION. SO THAT'S TWO DUE TO THEIR HARD WORK AND SO AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER. ALL RIGHT, BUT THIS IS THE 132.6 MILLION SHORTFALL THAT STEVE MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING. OF THE DISCUSSION MHM. MHM. YEAH. SO. HOW DO WE DO THIS? HOW HAVE WE BEEN DOING THIS? AND IT IS THROUGH, UH, SEVERAL STRATEGIES AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN OUR ONE OF OUR LAST MEETING. SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT VALUE ENGINEERING AND THE BAG ENGINEERING PROCESS AND I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT VERY QUICKLY. UM VALUE ENGINEERING PROCESS STARTS WITH ESTABLISHING A COST MODEL. WHAT WE CALL THE COST MODEL EARLY IN THE PROCESS. THERE'S WHERE WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING, AND WE DEVELOP A ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST AT THE EARLY STAGES. WHAT IS THAT BUILDING GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT MATERIALS? ARE WE GONNA USE IN THAT BUILDING? WHAT STRUCTURAL SYSTEM BUILDING SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT. WHAT FITS THE BUDGET. ALRIGHT AND THEN ONCE YOU ESTABLISH THAT MODEL, YOU USE THAT AS A KIND OF A GUY THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IF THAT BUILDING WAS A BUILDING WITH TOWEL FLOORS, AND, UM SOMETHING I STILL STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT IF YOU CHANGE THAT TO MARBLE FLOORS THAT THEN? OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS SOMEWHERE ELSE TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET. AND SO THAT'S THAT COST MODEL IS A KEY PART. WE REVIEW OUR COST ESTIMATES AT KEY MILESTONES CURRENTLY IN OUR CONTRACTS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE ESTIMATES SUBMITTED BY THE ARCHITECT CONTRACTORS THAT WE REVIEW THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED. WHEN REQUIRED. WE EVALUATE THE BUILDING SYSTEMS AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS CONTINUALLY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. IS THIS THE RIGHT SYSTEM? THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES A TYPICALLY IN OUR PROJECTS. WE WILL USE STEEL STRUCTURE FOR THE BUILDING A STILL FRAME IF YOU WILL SKELETON FOR THE BUILDINGS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN, STILL AND LIKE I MENTIONED IF JAPAN DOES START TO SLOW DOWN THEIR EXPORTS OF STEEL. UH IT MAY BE CHEAPER TO GO WITH CONCRETE. AND SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF EVALUATIONS THAT WE MAKE CONTINUALLY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IS A PART OF THE VALUE
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ENGINEERING PROCESS AND WE COLLABORATE WITH EVERYBODY IN THE SCENE. WE COLLABORATE WITH ARCHITECTS. WE COLLABORATE WITH THE CONTRACTORS. WE GO OUT. TALK TO VENDORS, OUR SISTER AGENCIES, WE JUST WHEREVER WE CAN GET INFORMATION IDEAS ABOUT HIM. WE TALKED TO THE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THAT MATTER. ABOUT HOW CAN WE DO COST SAVINGS? HOW CAN WE PROVIDE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE BUT HIGH QUALITY? WE DON'T SACRIFICE QUALITY OF A BUILDING. FOR OUR STUDENTS. SOME EXAMPLES REAL QUICK. WE USE ALTERNATE MATERIALS. SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT MATERIALS. UM A LOT OF OUR BUILDINGS OF BRICK. WE CAN DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS CHANGING FROM THE TYPICAL MODULAR BIG BRICK TO WHAT WE CALL A KING SIZE BRICK, ALTHOUGH THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE, BRICK BY BRICK, YOU KNOW, COST THE REDUCTION IN LABOR. PRODUCES A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, WINDOWS SYSTEMS AND TYPE OF WINDOWS SYSTEMS WE USE WHETHER IT BE CURTAIN WALL OR WHAT WE CALL WINDOW WALL SYSTEMS . THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WORK JUST AS WELL FOR OUR SCHOOLS, AND WE CAN DO THAT WE LOOKED AT MODIFICATION OF BUILDING FEATURES THE FEATURES THAT THE ARCHITECTS CONTRACTORS ARE PROPOSING FOR THE BUILDING. WE EVALUATE THAT IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING I THINK I MENTIONED THIS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS OUR STUDENTS. OUR TEACHERS, UM, TALKS ABOUT SAFETY, REGULATORY REQUIRED. WE SAY, WELL, IT'S UP FOR CONSIDERATION TO BE CUT AND THAT'S THE KEY DEAL. WE WILL DO THINGS TO SAY, BUT WE NEVER SACRIFICE THE INSTRUCTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BUILDING THROUGH. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CHEAPEN THE BUILDING. JUST QUITE HONESTLY. YEAH. AND WE EXPAND THE LIST OF ACCEPTABLE MANUFACTURERS. SOMETIMES WE CAN GET, UH, PRODUCTS WE FIND THAT, UH, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS ARE MADE AT THE SAME FACTORY ONE GETS A BRAND NAME LABEL ON IT AND HIGHER PRICE AND THE OTHER ONE IS EXACTLY THE SAME PRODUCT. BUT IT'S IF YOU WILL, THE GENERIC JUST AS EFFECTIVE JUST AS DURABLE JUST AS LONG TERM. LASTING, BUT, UM. WITH SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS. AND SO WE DO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME. UH AND ONE LAST THING WAS MENTIONED . WE EVALUATE SITE PAVEMENT, RIGHT? YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL ABOUT CONCRETE? WELL, SINCE HURRICANE HARVEY. THE NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR DRAINAGE AND DETENTION FOR JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF CONCRETE. THERE IS ALMOST A TRIPLE EFFECT AND SOME OF THE COSTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE DRAINAGE ATTENTION ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO COUNTERACT THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT YOU'VE ADDED TO THE PROJECT, AND SO THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS PAY FOR A LOT OF CONCRETE, JUST SITTING THERE. AH COLLECTING WATER AND THEN HAVE TO CONTINUALLY PAY FOR THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT. THERE PERMITS ETCETERA. VALUE. ENGINEERING IS JUST ONE OF THE STRATEGIES. THAT'S NOT GONNA GET US ALL THE WAY THERE. WE WE'VE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD STRIDES AS I MENTIONED THE NEARLY $18 MILLION THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAVED AND REDUCE THE COST, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER STRATEGIES. NOW UH, THESE STRATEGIES I'M GETTING READY TO MENTION THESE ARE FOR CONSIDERATION. NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. WE MAY USE ONE. TO AH , BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THEM. AND SO I PREFACED MY LIST OF MY DISCUSSION WITH THAT CAVEAT. UTILIZATION OF OTHER FUNDS. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. AND I KNOW STEVE HEWITT MENTIONED A COUPLE YOURSELF THAT, UH, WE WANT TO THANK ONE OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. THANKS, DAN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. IS MAYBE ISSUING SOME OF OUR FUNDS EARLIER AND TO GET MORE INTEREST EXPENSE. EXCUSE ME, INTEREST INCOME. IF WE ISSUE OUR DEBT EARLIER, WE CAN GET INTEREST INCOME AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD THAT COULD HELP US CLOSE THE GAP. YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS ALTHOUGH THE GENERAL FUNDS VERY TIGHT, AND CERTAINLY THE POSSIBILITY OF YOU KNOW, USING SEVEN GENERAL FINE. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE DO THAT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. WE MENTIONED LAND SALES BEFORE SOME OF THE LAND PROCEEDS THAT WE CAN DO. UM THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL OF IF THERE ARE GRANTS THAT COULD BE REPURPOSED LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, THERE'S A LARGE, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY GRANT. WE CAN STILL COVER EVERYTHING IN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY GRANT THAT WE NEED TO COVER, BUT SOME OF THAT COULD BE USED FROM TWO TO SUPPLANT SOME OF THE BOND FUNDS, YOU KNOW, FOR FENCING, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S LOOKING REALLY AT EVERYTHING.EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE A DEFENDED THE PLAN YET. I'M JUST SAYING THAT EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE. YEAH, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WHERE WE LOOK AT AS WELL AS SCOPE ADJUSTMENT ON THE PROJECTS , UH, AND COORDINATION WITH THE LONG RANGE PLANNING. WE RECENTLY WE'VE GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION FROM OUR DEMOGRAPHERS AND DEMOGRAPHY CONSULTANT, DEMOGRAPHIC CONSULTANTS. SO HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON? UM GOOD EXAMPLE IS BLUE RIDGE AND BRIAR GATE. WE ARE NOT GOING TO, YOU
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KNOW, USE THE BLUE RIDGE SCHOOL FOR A EDUCATIONAL FACILITY. UH AS IT TERMS RIGHT NOW, AND SO THERE'S MONEY IN THE BOND FOR THAT, SO WE NEED TO REVALUATE WHETHER THOSE DOLLARS AGO THEIR MISSION BAN AND MISSION. GLENN SIMILARLY, BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, INVEST MORE DOLLARS INTO THE OLD FACILITY. LET'S LOOK AT THAT. AND WHAT WILL THE DISTRICT DO WITH THAT? AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE LONG RANGE PLAN THAT THE DISTRICT'S INVOLVED IN AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. WE CAN DELAY SELECTED LIFECYCLE PROJECTS THERE ARE WE WERE WANTED TO DO A LOT OF REPLACEMENT OF MAINTENANCE AND ARE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS. BUT NOT ALL OF THEM WERE SUPERCRITICAL. AND SO AS WE LOOK AT TRYING TO ADJUST OUR COLORS COST AND OUR BUDGETS ON THESE PROJECTS WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. WE CAN DIFFER SOME PROJECTS TO A FUTURE BOND. UM AND NOW AND YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THE WAY I HAVE THIS GROUP LISTED. IT'S KIND OF FROM THE I WON'T SAY THE EASIEST BUT THE LEAST DISRUPTIVE OR AT LEAST PAINFUL STRATEGIES DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT MORE PAINFUL STRATEGIES AND SO DEFERRING SOME PROJECTS TO A FUTURE BUYING AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE TO DO, BUT, UH, IS, STEVE SAID, EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AND THEN, OF COURSE, INCLUDING ANY PROJECT SHORTAGES AND FUTURE BONDS. SEVERAL OF OUR SISTER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE DONE THAT, WHERE THE SHORTAGE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR BOND. THEY INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE BOND AS A LINE ITEM TO COVER THOSE COSTS. SO AGAIN, NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED. NONE OF THESE ARE THE ABSOLUTE BUT, UM THEY'RE ALL THINGS TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS BUDGET CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCE. WELL, I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS ASK, UH, MR WILL BUILDS RATHER TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? MOVING FORWARD? AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS SITUATION THAT WE'VE COMMENTED DAN GO AHEAD AND STAY THERE BECAUSE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE QUESTIONS AND DAMON WILL SPEAK FROM HIS SPOT. HMM GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE PLANS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. TO MITIGATE FINDING OURSELVES IN THIS PREDICAMENT EVER AGAIN.THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE. FIRST CHANGES IN BOND PLANNING. TO BE IT. WHEN WE START BUYING PLANNING, WE START WITH THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. AS PART OF THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. WE HAVE INPUT FROM A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, DISTRICT LEADERS, CAMPUS LEADERS. UM FACILITIES DESIGN, UM ATHLETICS.
FINE ARTS, JOHN NUTRITION. ALL OF THOSE. DEPARTMENTS GET THEIR INPUT ON THE BIG WISH LIST. ALL THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED. UM OFTENTIMES, THE. BUDGET DOES NOT MATCH THE WISH LIST. SO AT SOME POINT, SOME JUST DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE ON WHAT ACTUALLY, WHAT PROJECTS WILL ACTUALLY GO FORWARD TO BE FUNDED IN THE BOND? WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTAL LEADERS, DISTRICT LEADERS, CAMPUS LEADERS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT AH, THE CORRECT PRIORITIZATION IS GIVEN TO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BOND.
ESTIMATE REVIEWS ESTIMATES WERE RECEIVED FOR THIS BIND EARLY IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. UM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ESTIMATES ARE REVIEWED. REVIEWED WITH DEPARTMENTAL LEADERS IN DEVELOPMENT, THE SCOPE OF THE BOND AND ALSO REVIEWED PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THEM FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. SCOPE REVIEW AGAIN VALIDATING THE SCOPE, MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO ADDRESS UH IS REALLY HITTING THE CRITICAL ITEMS MAKING SURE THAT AGAIN I'LL BOW STAKEHOLDERS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT SCOPE REVIEW INVALIDATION OF THE SCOPE. AND SO ONCE WE GET THAT COURT, UH THE NUMBERS WILL COME IN, UH, DAN AND HIS TEAM IN DESIGN CONSTRUCTION WILL REVIEW THOSE NUMBERS. THEY WERE FAST THEM TO ME FOR MY REVIEW. I PLAN TO ALSO PASS THEM TO THE CFO FOR HIS REVIEW, SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE, COMPREHENSIVE INTERNAL REVIEW ONCE WE'RE COMFORTABLE GOING TO SEND THEM BACK TO WHOEVER DEVELOPED THEM TO VALIDATE THEM AGAIN. AND BEFORE THEY GO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD FOR REVIEW. I WILL NOT PRESENT NUMBERS TO YOU THAT ARE OLDER THAN SIX MONTHS OLD. NEXT STEP IS BY AN EXECUTION. UM WE HAVE SOME SOME THINGS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TO REVIEW BOND EXECUTION TO CHECK UP ON WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING IT. ONE OF THOSE
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IS THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETS QUARTERLY. THERE'S THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTS OF THREE BOARD MEMBERS, AND THAT COMMITTEE AGAINST ONLY THREE POINT MEMBERS THEY MEET AS NEEDED. MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONTHLY BOARD UPDATES IN EVERY AGENDA REVIEW. DURING THAT UPDATE, YOU GET UPDATES ON PROJECT STATUSES.BUDGET STATUS. WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE HAD FOR THAT MONTH AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHATEVER CHALLENGES WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, YOU WILL RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THIS TEAM EVERY MONTH. SO THIS IS THE SCHEDULE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THINGS ARE COMING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. UH UM, AS PLANNED FROM MARCH THROUGH AUGUST. AND THIS WILL BE PART OF OUR UPDATE. YOU'LL SEE THIS REVISED AND UPDATED EVERY MONTH. IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THAT I TOLD YOU, WE WILL DISCUSSED DURING THE BOND UPDATE. AT THIS POINT, WE WILL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH THE CARDS. YES. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THE P YEAH. OKAY? HMM HMM. OK IT'S TIME FOR QUESTIONS NOW, UH, MR GARCIA. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, OKAY? SO I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START, ACTUALLY. THE FIRST QUESTION. I'LL ASK. IS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. WHEN WE SELECTED THE NUMBER OF THE LIST OF ARCHITECTS WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF ARCHITECTS AND WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WOULD HELP THE DISTRICT BE MORE COMPETITIVE IN, UM AND WE GOT ISSUING CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THERE ANY PLANS TO REEVALUATE THAT LIST OF ARCHITECTS BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF ARCHITECTS ON THERE THAT WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE DISTRICT. BUT I KNOW THEY'RE PROJECTS THAT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET THAT ARE NO LONGER ON THE NEW LIST. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. THAT'S ONE QUESTION AND I LET ANYBODY CAN ANSWER THAT. YEAH. I'LL START THAT RESPONSE RIGHT NOW. WE DO NOT HAVE PLANS TO REEVALUATE OR UM, CONSIDER NEW ARCHITECTS. UH, THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT OR SOME OF THE TOP.
DESIGN PROFESSIONALS IN THE STATE. UH AND ALL HAVE RECORDS OF DOING VERY WELL WITH US AS WELL WITH OUR SISTER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND PERFORMING WELL, SO THAT'S NOT WANNA. WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT AT THIS POINT. UM OKAY? SO IN REGARDING WITH THE CONTRACTS FOR EACH OF THE ARCHITECTS, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS, THE UM ENGINEERS. THE PROJECT MANAGERS. AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CONTRACTS FIT. PUT REQUESTS IN FOR THOSE CONTRACTS, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
WE'RE USING THE SAME CONTRACT. SIMILAR CONTRACTS THAT WE DID FOR 2018 BONDS, LIKE FOR JACOBS, AND FOR THE ARCHITECTS, SO THEY ALL SIMILAR CONTRACTS FROM FROM 2018 BECAUSE I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE STIPULATION IN THEM THAT ALL ALL OF THE VENDORS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY MAINTAINED BUDGET. AND IF THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING BUDGET, THEN IT'S UP TO THEM THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AT THEIR EXPENSE TO CORRECT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING. THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. AND IF THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES, THEN HAVE ANY OF THESE VENDORS GOT ANY MARKS OR DINGS AGAINST THEM. WE JUST APPROVED A WHOLE LIST OF NEW VENDORS. WE HAVE. WE HAVE NOT ENTERED DEANS IF YOU WILL, OR ANY BAD MARKS IN THEIR VENDOR RECORD AT THIS POINT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT MOM, I THINK I CAN SAY I ONCE VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS ARE BACK AT THE DRAWING BOARD WORKING REALLY HARD TO HELP US WITH THIS PROBLEM AND REDUCED, YOU KNOW, FINDING WAYS TO CREATE A WAYS TO HELP US GET CLOSER TO OUR BUDGETS. OKAY, THANK YOU. WELL I KNOW I REQUESTED, UM THE ACTUAL ESTIMATES WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I RECEIVED INFORMATION BACK THAT WE WERE FIRST INFORMED OR FIRST
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BECAME AWARE THAT WE WERE RUNNING OVER BUDGET WAS SEPTEMBER OCTOBER. I HAVE A FEELING THAT WHEN WE GET THE ESTIMATES BACK THAT THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE BEFORE, AND IT'S JUST MY GUESS I KNOW THAT WE APPROVE THE THEORY IN AUGUST AND, IN OTHER WORDS, CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE. UH SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS WEREN'T COMFORTABLE APPROVING THE BOND OVER A BILLION DOLLARS. UH UM SO ME AND MY BRAIN JUST TRYING TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENED. WHY WEREN'T WE INFORMED SOONER? AND I KNOW THAT THE LAST MEETING I MENTIONED THAT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO DELIVER BAD NEWS IS BAD NEWS IS HAPPENING. SO DURING THE TIME WHEN WE FIRST REALIZED THAT WE WERE GOING OVER BUDGET, NOBODY INFORMED THE BOARD BUT THEN, AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT EVEN THAT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUE. WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR PLANNING PHASES. AGERS AND IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA THAT DATA PROCEDURES BECAUSE SEVERAL YEARS OLD SINCE 2018 UM BUT IN A GENERAL PROJECT YOU GET YOUR ESTIMATES YOU PROVIDE YOUR ESTIMATES. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THINGS ARE GONNA COST AS AS YOU'RE DOING IT SET. YOU'RE BASING IT OFF OF INFLATION THAT WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YOU CAN LOOK AT. UM THE TRENDS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE INFLATION IS. I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT I CAN SAY THAT THAT THAT'S THAT MUCH INFLATION HAS CAUSED US TO BE THIS UPSIDE DOWN. SO WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR SCOPE TO BUDGET EXERCISES, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WE'VE DONE THAT. AND THAT THAT WAS TO ME. ONE RED FLAG IS ASSUMING THAT YOU DID THAT. THAT OKAY, WE'RE STILL OVER BUDGET. WHY HAVEN'T WE ADJUSTED OUR WAY? HAVEN'T WE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND THEN WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, OR WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UM ALL YOUR DIFFERENT EXERCISES. IN BETWEEN. THERE'S SEVERAL FOR ME AS A PROJECT MANAGER. WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO COURSE CORRECT. IN BETWEEN THE TIME THAT WE FIRST REALIZED WE SAW THE NUMBERS ARE COMING IN.AND TO THIS POINT THAT WE'RE IN THE SITUATION NOW, SO UM, WAS THERE EVER ANY MENTION ABOUT IT BACK THEN THAT WE NEED TO ADJUST WHERE WE'RE JUST NOW REALIZING HERE IN JANUARY, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. WE NEED TO DO THIS AND WE NEED TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW THAT YOU JUST YOU JUST GOT HERE IN NOVEMBER, SO IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR QUESTION FOR YOU. BUT ANYBODY ELSE THAT MAY BE HERE, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME FOLKS ARE NO LONGER WITH THE DISTRICT. WELL, LET ME TAKE A STAB REAL QUICK AND TERMS OF THE TO REBUILD. SO THE TWO REBUILDS ARE THE FIRST PROJECTS BECAUSE, REMEMBER, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THEM TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE BOND EVEN PAST, YOU KNOW, SO WE GOT STARTED WITH THOSE REBUILDS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MORE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MORE NUMBERS ON THOSE, SO WE FIRST HEARD FROM THE DANCE PREDECESSOR. THAT BAR GATE AND THE MISSION BEEN PROJECTS YOU KNOW, WOULD BE OVER BUDGET IN THE IN THE $10 MILLION RANGE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S VALUE ENGINEERING THAT WE CAN WORK ON, INCLUDING CHANGING THE RETENTION PONDS. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TIME THAT ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT DOWN. THAT WAS ACTUALLY 3 MILLION PER PROJECT VERSUS 1 MILLION. AND IT WAS IT WAS DISCUSSED FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER BELOW 5 MILLION AND FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH ONE, AND SO IT WASN'T SOMETHING WHERE WE FELT LIKE FIRE ALARM NEEDED TO BE PULLED. THERE WASN'T A SENSE OF URGENCY THAT HEY, WE CAN END UP WITH OVER 100 MILLION IN IN IN IN SHORTAGES THAT THAT THAT WASN'T THE MESSAGING THAT WE WENT THERE WE RECEIVED AT THAT TIME, AND THEN IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GOT SO IN THE MONTH WEEKLY MEETING, WE HAVE IT ALMOST WEEKLY. IT'S MOST MOSTLY EVERY WEEK WHERE WE HAVE THIS THIS DESIGNER CONSTRUCTION UPDATE MEETING THE NEXT TIME WAS ACTUALLY THE DAY AFTER THE T R E AND AT THAT ONE WE BROUGHT UP THE, UM AND THAT WAS THE DAY OF TEARY THERE IN NOVEMBER. 8TH THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 MIDDLE SCHOOL 16 THAT BID JUST WITH THE WITH THE DESIGN, AS IS OKAY, GOING OUT FOR CSP, AND THAT CAME IN OVER OVER 10 MILLION OVER BUDGET . AND SO THE TEAM THE TEAM CAME TO US AT THAT TIME TOLD US AND THEY SAID, HEY, WHAT WE CAN DO IS GET BACK WITH THE ARCHITECT AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DESIGNS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF VALUE ENDURING COULD BE DONE BECAUSE I THINK WE HEARD ABOUT THAT FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT. HUMBLE DID SOMETHING SOMETHING SOMETHING SIMILAR. WHICH IS WHICH IS WHY THAT TEAM, YOU KNOW, TALK TO US ABOUT IT, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL IT WASN'T UNTIL I THINK THE MEETING ON THE 30TH OF NOVEMBER AND THAT WAS THE NEXT ONE WE HAD IS WHERE I SAW THE ATHLETIC NUMBERS, AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS LIKE, WOW. OKAY THAT'S THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS. AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE IN THAT WERE IN THE ADMIN TRANSITION. THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT LAND SALES AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GETTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THAT HEY, WE'RE GONNA BOND OVERSIGHT. MEETING COMING IN JANUARY. LET'S LET'S START PREPARING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT THE MESSAGING. BUT THEN ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE MEANTIME TO TRY TO SOLIDIFY AS MANY ESTIMATES AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS. HMM WHAT ELSE I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO AS WELL
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ONE OF THE OTHER HANDOUTS YOU HAVE AS OUR OVERALL MASTER SCHEDULE. AND AS YOU LOOK AT THAT MASTER SCHEDULE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY EARLY IN THE PROCESS. STILL FOR THE BOND PROGRAM. AND SO THAT'S ALSO WHY WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY ESTIMATES IF YOU WILL, AS WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIFE LOVE TO HAVE ALL OF THEM, SO WE KNOW FOR SURE WHERE WE ARE IN YOUR WORKSHEET. THE NUMBERS THE ESTIMATE WORKSHEET. THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE.THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ESTIMATES FOR HARD ESTIMATES IF YOU WILL, EITHER FROM CONTRACTORS OR OUTSIDE PARTIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT WORKSHEET AND THE MASTER SCHEDULE. WE'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF IT YET. AND SO. AND ON THIS SLIDE, FOUR VARIANTS AND INITIAL MAJOR PROJECT BOND, IT SAYS ASSESSMENT BUDGET WITH CONSULTANT INFO. THAT'S NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS THAT THE ADJUSTED ALL IN BUDGET? IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? YES THAT IS THE ADJUSTED ALL IN SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR AND HAVE SEEN BEFORE. MM HMM. AND. ON SO ON THE BOND PACKAGES. ALL THESE ON THE PROJECTS COULD ROLL THE BOMB PACKAGES. WE'VE ACCORDING TO THIS, WE STARTED. DESIGN ON ALL OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN DESIGN PHASE ON ALL OF THEM. SO IF WE'RE $130 MILLION OVER BUDGET, AND WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE BOND PACKAGES THAT WE APPROVED TO START WORKING ON IT AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW , OUT OF LUCK, AS FAR AS WE CAN'T WORK ON ALL THE PROJECTS. I WAS RUNNING AROUND MONEY, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND HAVE TO GET PUSHED. LIKE YOU SAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ON THIS BOND WERE PRIORITY. ONE OR PARTY, EH? UM PROJECTS, MEANING THEY'RE ALL LIKE HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS SO PUSHING ANYTHING WOULD WOULD MAKE THEM EVEN HIGHER ON THAT ON THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE PRIORITY ONES. UM THIS. JUST A COMMENT THAT REALLY SOMETHING YOU NEED TO RESPOND TO. UM TRUSTEE AT ALSO LET YOU KNOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT 21 PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T STARTED. AND I'M GONNA SAY ANOTHER 13 THAT HAVE JUST STARTED. THEY'RE STILL IN THE WHAT WE CALL THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN AT FIRST PHASE OF DESIGN.
CAN YOU PUT THE TIMELINE SLIDE? BACK UP? I'M SORRY. I'M TAKING SO MUCH TIME. MOM WAS DONE. UM.
NO, THE ONE AT THE VERY END WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT? THE SCHEDULE? SORRY. SO.
FOR THE UPCOMING MAJOR PROJECTS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT, AND I'D SEND AN EMAIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT AND WE TALKED ABOUT GMP GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. UM AND WHEN THAT EXCEEDS THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGING YOUR DELIVERY METHODS. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT THE SAME ER IS YOUR MOST EXPENSIVE DELIVERY METHOD. I KNOW YOU'RE UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPERT IN THAT UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A SITUATION NOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DELIVERING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WERE USING AT THE MOMENT THE MOST EXPENSIVE DELIVERY METHODS ON SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECTS, INCLUDING YOU KNOW THE SCHOOLS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WERE DONE, THEN PASS THAT WE'RE ALREADY OVER BUDGET ON CLEMENS. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US AT THIS POINT TO LOOK AT SOME SOME THINGS. AS AN APPROACH TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROCEDURES WHERE WE CAN, WHERE WE CAN CUT THERE. UM BUT I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF WE TAKE SEVERAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S DELIVERY METHODS THAT THIS DISTRICT DOESN'T USE. WE ONLY USE THE TWO OR THREE. I THINK THERE'S EIGHT APPROVED FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS. UM BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH OUR WHILE TO TAKE A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS AND JUST PILOT THE DIFFERENT METHODS AND SEE WHERE WE CAN WHICH ONES ARE MORE EFFICIENT, WHICH ONES COME IN, AND MORE EFFICIENT. UM AND I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HIRING MORE INTERNAL STAFF, AS OPPOSED TO THE OUTSIDE STAFF AUGMENTATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS STEPH FOG IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. HOW MUCH DO WE PAY PROJECT MANAGERS HERE INTERNALLY? FOR THE DISTRICT WAS ABOUT BETWEEN 7080 OR 7090. K DOESN'T MEAN NO. NO IT'S UH IT'S A RANGE. UM FOR, BUT IT'S. COMPETITIVE, I'LL SAY WITH THE MARKET WITHIN PARALLEL. YOU KNOW HOW MANY DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE PAY OUR PROJECT MANAGERS OR CONSULTANTS? I'M SORRY TO PAY OUR PROJECT MANAGERS CURRENTLY THROUGH DO JACOBS. UM ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SLIGHTLY HIGHER, BUT WE PAY MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A MARKET THEY'RE CARRYING OVERHEAD
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AND BENEFITS, ETCETERA. ALL THAT THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE SIMILAR COSTS, BUT THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE GENERAL COST OF THE DISTRICT SO AS A AS A AS ANOTHER MEANS TO BE MORE COST EFFICIENT AND WE'RE PAYING OUR PEOPLE ARRANGED. PROBABLY A LOW RANGE COMPARED TO WHAT SOMEBODY AT AT JACOBS MAKES BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU ADD THAT MARK UP. 20% OR WHATEVER IT IS ON TOP OF THAT. WE MAKE WE MAKE, AND WE MAY CONSIDER INCREASING HOW MUCH WE PAY OUR PROJECT MANAGERS INTERNALLY TO GET THOSE FOLKS IN THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY THESE THESE RATES FOR THESE YEAH , YEAH. YES, SIR. WE ACTUALLY DID JUST RECENTLY INCREASED. OURS ARE RATES, YOU KNOW, AT THE REQUEST OF THE DANCE PREDECESSOR , OKAY, AND WE JUST WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL AS MANY AS WE'D LIKE, AND WE'VE LOST A COUPLE IN THE MEANTIME AND THEN AND I THINK THAT ALL OF MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW, HOPEFULLY I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TAKES SO MUCH TIME. THANK YOU, TRACY. SO JUST REAL QUICK. THEN YOU KNOW AGAIN.DANCE NEWR MIDPOINT FOR THE OH, I THINK THESE, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGERS IS LIKE THAT ONE. 132 SO UNDER THESE ARE THESE ARE DECENT NUMBERS FOR INTERNAL 32,000 INTERNAL AND THAT WAS THE MIDPOINT NUMBER AND WE USUALLY DON'T BRING SOMEBODY IN THE MID POINT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE MIDPOINT OF THAT SCALE. OKAY THANK YOU. MR GARCIA. MS. HANAN YES. THANK YOU. UM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US. ONE OF THE JOBS. THAT WE HAVE UP HERE IS BUILDING PUBLIC TRUST.
AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD I FEEL LIKE, UM. WE'VE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS WHAMMIES AS FAR AS THE FINANCES GO AND SO I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN WITHOUT WITH WITH WITH HOW WE FORECAST.
IN THIS DISTRICT. SO WHETHER IT'S S OR THE JUST THE BUDGET THIS, UM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SAYS VARIANTS AND INITIAL MAJOR PROJECT BOND? THE VARIANCE SLIDE. JUST LIKE FOUR. OKAY THE MIDDLE COLUMN THAT SAYS ASSESSMENT BUDGET WITH CONSULTANT INFORMATION. CAN YOU MAKE IT JUST VERY CRYSTAL CLEAR TO ME. WHAT THAT MEANS. WHAT IS THIS COLUMN? I'LL ADDRESS THAT. SO IN THAT COLUMN WE ARE USING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSULTANT. THE UPDATED RECOMMENDATIONS THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE NUMBER THAT THAT WAS PRESENTED. UM UH, I THINK 2021 BASED OFF 2021 NUMBERS PROJECTED OUT 22 23 24. IT'S 6% 7% 7. IF WE WOULD HAVE USED THE UPDATED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THEM. THAT CAME IN ON THAT EMAIL THAT WAS REFERENCED ON THE FIRST EMAIL NOVEMBER OF 22. AND SO THIS THIS IS A VENDOR, THIS EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED IN NOVEMBER OF 22. WAS ONE OF OUR VENDORS. CORRECT, OKAY? AND THE OTHER NUMBERS CAME FROM 21 WITH JUST. ESTIMATES BASED ON WHAT 6% CORRECT, IS THAT RIGHT? UM OKAY? AND, UM. I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE HERE FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE NUMBERS. UM HINDSIGHT BEING WHAT IT IS. SO THEN, UM. THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE SAID THESE ARE MAJOR PROJECTS AND THE NEW ESTIMATE ON THIS ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS. UM 599 MILLION AND THEN THE MAJOR PROJECTS ON THE OTHER ONE IS 577 IS THE DIFFERENCE IS THE DIFFERENCE THE DELTA THERE THAT YOU'VE REDUCED IT BY 72 MILLION. THERE'S UH YES , THAT'S CORRECT, ACTUALLY REDUCE THE ROUGHLY ABOUT 18 OR SO 20 SOMEWHERE. THAT WOULD BE OKAY. ESTIMATES THAT HAVE COME IN HAVE BEEN LOWER THAN WHAT THE . CONSULTING WITH THE RECOMMENDED OKAY, IT'S JUST THAT THOSE NUMBERS DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. SO I GET ARE THERE MORE MAJOR PROJECTS THAN WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE FIRST VARIANT SLIDE VERSUS THE MAJOR PROJECTS LINE ON THIS VARIOUS SLIDE. THIS
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IS JUST ESTIMATES. INTERNAL MATH . THE COLUMN. THAT'S UM THAT'S OKAY. THE DELTA THAT'S JUST OKAY FORECASTING BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME, THE OTHER SIDE IS ACCURATE, REAL NUMBERS. SO I SAID THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN IT WAS BORED. RECOGNITION MEANT THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SACRIFICE SOME OF YOUR SANITY AND THIS IS PART OF THE SANITY THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW. LEAKING RIGHT OUT OF MY BRAIN. UM AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAFF HAS THE BEST IN MIND. BUT THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BALL BOARDS SCHEDULE OR THE BOND SCHEDULE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO THE BOARD AND I THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE FERNDALE, HENRY AND I THINK ABOUT HERITAGE ROSE WITH OVER 1300 KIDS, AND THEY'RE WAITING ON THIS. AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE PLAN NOW, BUT I WOULD SURE HATE TO HOLD UP SOME OF THESE PROD PROJECTS IN IN TERMS OF WE HAVE REAL NEED WITH WITH BUILDINGS THAT TO ME THIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH OVER 1300 KIDS IS A HUGE CAPACITY. PROBLEM TO ME, UM SO I JUST I WANT TO.I'M GONNA ACTUALLY ASKED I'M GONNA ASK THIS AND I'M ONLY SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS WILL GO TO THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT AS WE GET INFORMATION BROUGHT TO US MONTHLY, WHICH I APPRECIATE DR SMITH. I WOULD ALSO LIKE NOT THAT THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEET, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THOSE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL THE QUARTERLY MEETING TO SEE THE UPDATES.
WE'RE GETTING. I DON'T YOU KNOW. BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WE FAIL TO ASK. BUT SOMEBODY ON THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MAY MAY MAY ASK THAT QUESTION SO THAT I MEAN, I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE BOARD, BUT THAT'S JUST A REQUEST. UM THAT I HAVE. AND THEN. JUST JUST THAT NOTION OF FORECASTING. OUR EXPENDITURES. UM. I AM NOT A FINANCE PERSON, BUT MHM. WE. WE HAVE. WE JUST WE HAVE TO DO WE HAVE TO DO BETTER. AND I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW. UM BECAUSE I DID NOT LIKE THE FEELING OF LEARNING ABOUT $47 MILLION DEFICIT. WAY AFTER WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN UM AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION, AND I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE MORE MORE DEFINITIVE PLANS THAT COME TO FRUITION. THEY GET TO US. SO WE KNOW AND SO WE CAN. HELP OUR COMMUNITY TRUST THAT WE'RE GOING TO. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN ON THESE PROJECTS THAT THEY WENT TO THE POLLS AND VOTED FOR TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS HANAN. MR HAMBLETON? YES THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. GREAT JOB TONIGHT, BY THE WAY, LEADING ON THE FLY. SO I WANT TO START WITH A LITTLE POSITIVE NOTE. SO DR SMITH JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN TERMS OF INFORMATION. BEING FORTHCOMING AND TRANSPARENT WITH THE BOARD.
UM SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LEADERSHIP CHANGE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. AH, UM BUT I DO WANT TO. I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME EFFORTS TO KIND OF PUT THIS SITUATION IN CONTEXT IN TERMS OF THE INFLATION AND MARKET ADJUSTMENTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT PUT OUT THERE. SO AFTER THE BOND PASSED, I KNOW SOME OF OUR TRUSTEES HAD SOME ISSUES WITH CONTINUING TO USE THE SAME PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRM. UM AND PART OF THAT OBJECTION WAS THAT THERE WAS A RELATIVELY HIGH COST. UM FROM WHAT INFORMATION WE HAD AVAILABLE TO US, AND NOT NECESSARILY, UH, CORRESPONDING VALUE FOR THAT COST, AND SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDED AND CONTINUING TO USE THAT FIRM WAS THAT WE NEED THEIR BOND MANAGEMENT EXPERTISE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT IN HOUSE MANAGEMENT EXPERTISE, AND THEN WE ALSO MADE A PERSONAL DECISION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE MADE A PERSONAL DECISION WITH WITH SOMEONE WHO'S HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH MANAGING THE BOND. AND WE WERE TOLD BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IT WAS OKAY TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE WE HAD THE PROJECT MANAGER WITH SO MUCH BOND
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EXPERIENCE, AND SO I BELIEVE THE ONE OF THE KEY RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE OF THE PROJECT MANAGER WHO IS BEING PAID VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF FOUR BEEN HONEST TAXPAYERS MONEY. ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO AVOID SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. IS THAT ACCURATE? SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE, UM WHEN WE EMPLOY THEM, TOO. HELP US MANAGE THE SCOPE AND COSTS OF THESE BOND PROJECTS. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ACCURATE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT JACOBS WAS INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL PLANNING AND WHAT? I'M SORRY. I DON'T THINK JACOBS WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW JACOBS WASN'T INVOLVED WITH WITH COMING UP WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ESTIMATES FOR THE BRIAR GATE OR THE NATATORIUM OR ANY OF THOSE THAT THEY WORK ON BOND EXECUTION , OKAY, BOND PLANNING, AND THE BULK OF THIS PROBLEM IS ON THE PLANNING SIDE. OKAY SO WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PLANNING ON THOSE COSTS ARE OUR INTERNAL TEAM WITH THE HELP OF THE CONSULTANT? WITH. YEAH. WITHOUT THE CONSULTANT, BUT IT WAS NOT NOT CONSULTANT WAS USED FOR A OKAY. OKAY BUT IT WAS NOT. IT WAS NOT NOT JACOB JACOBS IS NOT INVOLVED ON THE PLANNING SIDE. SO IF I MISSPOKE. I MEAN, IT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. THAT IS OKAY.JUST MAKING SURE AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT UM, THE SAVINGS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE HARD WORK OF THE TEAM THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN JACOB'S TEAM AS WELL. THEY ARE SOME OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS WHO ROLLED UP THEIR SLEEVES AND BEEN HELPING US ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM, OKAY, THEY ARE DOING IT. OKAY SO I KNOW THAT A NEIGHBORING DISTRICT UM HAD A BOND WHERE THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND GET AN ADDITIONAL $200 MILLION FROM THEIR TAXPAYERS. TO COVER THINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE ORIGINAL BOND. AND BUT IT'S TO ME IT'S JUST I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM BEING ONLY EIGHT MONTHS INTO THIS BOND OR EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THIS BOND HAS PASSED. AND IT'S BAD THAT WE'RE ALREADY $132.6 MILLION OR PROJECTING TO BE THAT MUCH ABOVE BUDGET BY ITSELF. BUT WE ALSO IN THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS ABOUT 7 TO 8% PER YEAR INFLATION. IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS, AND THEN I KNOW WE ALSO HAD SOME MARKET ADJUSTMENT. WE HAD A MARKET ADJUSTMENT FACTOR IN THE IN IN THE ON THE COST OF THE LABOR COSTS AND THE MATERIAL COST SIDE OF THE EQUATION. UM, AND SO I JUST I JUST KNOW THAT I THINK TRUSTY HAND AND MADE A COMMENT. SO THERE'S FINANCIAL TRUST ISSUE WITH WITH THE COMMUNITY BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE DISTRICT, AND WE AS THE AS THE BOARD KIND OF STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT EQUATION. AND SO I JUST KNOW THAT, UM THAT IT I OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT YOUR PREFERENCE FOR YOU TO BE IN THE POSITION TO BE IN THE POSITION, BUT WE'RE IN A POSITION TO SAY. WE'RE 10.5% OR SO ABOVE BUDGETED . IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS FACTORED IN FOR INFLATION, AND ALL THOSE MARKET ADJUSTMENT COSTS. AND THAT THAT NEIGHBORING DISTRICT THAT HAD TO GO BACK AND GET $200 MILLION. THAT WAS BEFORE ALL OF THOSE FACTORS THAT ARE THAT ARE GIVEN AS EXPLANATIONS TONIGHT. UM, SO IT'S JUST IT'S TROUBLING TO BE IN THIS POSITION AND ALSO KNOW THAT THE WE HAD TO GO TO THE TAXPAYERS AND TRY TO TRY TO BUILD THAT TRUST AND EARN THAT TRUST AND GET THEM TO VOTE. YES, FOR THE BOND, AND I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB WORKING TOGETHER AS THE BOARD AND THE DISTRICT. AH AND THE AND THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE DID A GREAT JOB HELPING US WITH THAT. AND SO WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY. INVESTMENT IN THAT PROCESS, AND THEN TO BE HERE EIGHT MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, THIS FAR OVER BUDGET. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF PASSIVE VOICE. THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING AND NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OWNERSHIP OF WHO MESSED UP WHO WHO'S WHO'S BUDGETING WAS WAS OFF. IF WE'RE OVERSPENDING, WHO'S WHERE'S WHERE'S THE OVERSPENDING? OCCURRING UM, SO JUST. WELL, SO CERTIFIED TO BE CLEAR. I MEAN, WE'RE OWNING THIS. I MEAN, THIS IS A THIS IS AN INTERNAL ISSUE. WE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM A CONSULTANT. OKAY AND THE INFORMATION WAS ENACTED ON OKAY? NOT EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED.
OKAY? IT WASN'T SHARED. OKAY AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHARED. IF IT HAD BEEN SHARED, WE WOULD HAVE COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH WITH WITH HIGHER NUMBERS, OKAY? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE FACED IN, BUT BUT WE'RE OWNING IT. I'M OWNING IT BECAUSE I WAS HERE.
OKAY THE TEAM ZONING OR, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE IT
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OUT. YOU KNOW THE FACT IS THIS 132 MILLION THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S THE ESTIMATE. THAT'S ON RIGHT NOW. SOME MONEY WE SPENT WE HAVEN'T SPENT. WE ACTUALLY SPEND VERY LITTLE IN BOND 2023. SO WE'RE BEING VERY TRANSPARENT WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE , AND WE'RE HOPING THAT AS WE COME TOGETHER, AND WE FIGURE THESE THINGS OUT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, OKAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF LOT OF COMMUNICATION. AND YOU KNOW, THE BORDER WILL CERTAINLY BE INVOLVED WITH THAT. MISS MALONE. THANK YOU, MR HAMBLETON. THANK YOU, DR GILLIAN. OKAY I'M A LITTLE BIT ALL OVER THE MAP. BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION ONE TO DR SMITH FOR BRINGING THIS TONIGHT AND THEN ALSO TO YOU GENTLEMEN WHO GRACIOUSLY TOOK THE TIME TO MEET WITH ME EARLIER. UM AS I ASKED A TON OF QUESTIONS ANYHOW. SO FIRST OF ALL, JUST THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN, IN ADDITION THAT I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING THIS AND GOING GOING PUBLIC AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE INFORMATION AND THE ISSUE AT HAND. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, WHAT I APPRECIATE EVEN MORE THAN THAT IS YOUR ACT FOR RESOLUTION AND TO FIND SOLUTIONS. AND SO ONE THING I WANT TO START WITH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD I MAYBE SHOULDN'T BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT. 132.6 BUDGET SHORTFALL LOOKING AT THAT IT SUCKS. OKAY, THAT'S STRAIGHT UP IS A PROBLEM THAT IT'S NOT GOOD. UM. BUT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND SO IT'S NOT THAT ANYMORE. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DECLINE. THESE AREN'T ACTUAL REALIZED NUMBERS AND YOU CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND REDUCTIONS AND I. I APPRECIATE YOUR FORTITUDE IN THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AND MAY GOD GRANT YOU THE STRENGTH AND, UM AND THE FOCUS IN WISDOM TO DO SO IN THAT PROCESS. I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CLARITY, THOUGH. SO THIS EMAIL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. JUST CURIOUS. WAS THIS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE TEAM? NO MAN, NO DANCE PREDECESSOR. OKAY, AND IT WASN'T EVER SHARED WITH THAT TEAM. THAT'S CORRECT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON RECORD WITH THAT. UM ALL RIGHT.AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS, I'M JUST GOING TO MENTION THIS PUBLICLY INTO THE BOARD.
I'M STRUGGLING BIG TIME WITH THIS AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. WHEN I LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, AND I'M GOING THROUGH IT, AND THEN I START LIKE CREATING MY OWN LINE CHARTS IN THERE AND ADDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND OF INTEREST IS THAT IF THAT INFORMATION CAME IN AND THAT SUGGESTION. TO CHANGE THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW FEBRUARY OF 2023, WHICH IS JUST A FEW MONTHS LATER. WE HELD A MEETING RIGHT HERE AND THAT SAME CONSULTANT WAS PRESENT. AND I'M REALLY STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THIS. UM, WE WENT THROUGH. YOU ALL REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THE SMART SHEET? IN THE DATA AND LOOKING AT THEM LINE BY LINE AND DRILLING INTO THEM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE RATE OF INFLATION OF 8% AND 8% OVER THREE YEARS, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WOULD BE OVER BUDGET NOT UNDER AND I GET IT. WE'VE HAD HYPERINFLATION AND ALL OF THAT, BUT WHAT? I'M BUT I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH. IS IF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM DIDN'T KNOW AND IF THE BOARD DID NOT KNOW WHY WAS THAT INFORMATION? NOT SHARED THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ACCURATE NUMBERS. AND I KNOW, SIR, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. I'M TELLING NOW. I'VE ALREADY ASKED YOU GENTLEMEN. ALL OF THIS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M GRAPPLING WITH AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S A REASON MAYBE THERE'S UNDERSTANDING. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT IS MISSING IN THIS PUZZLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I JUST KEEP GOING BACK TO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. UM I KNOW WE STRUGGLED WITH THE 1 BILLION AND , YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT THIS, AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. LET'S JUST SAY WE DID USE THEIR NUMBERS, WHICH YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED WHAT THAT WOULD DO. WHAT WOULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY? AND I DON'T THINK WE'D KEEP THE SAME SCOPE OF PROJECTS BECAUSE OUR SCOPE OF PROJECTS IN OUR FACILITY FC I FACILITIES CONDITION INDEX ALREADY WAS THAT A BILLION DOLLARS? AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT BASED ON TAXES. SO WHAT WOULD WE WHAT WOULD HAVE THE ANSWER BEEN
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IF WE WOULD HAVE USED THE INITIAL NUMBERS? I MEAN THAT I CAN SPECULATE THAT YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THE NATATORIUM. YEAH, THAT WAS SOME ONE THING THAT WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON QUITE A BIT. MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THE TRANSPORTATION DEPOT. I THINK THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE NEEDED ON THERE FOR VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE FERNDALE, WE HAD TO HAVE THAT. WELL YOU KNOW THE REBUILDS WERE NEEDED, YOU KNOW FOR THE CAMPUSES BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THOSE SCHOOLS. AND SO IT'S JUST HARD TO SAY IT'S HARD TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WELL, MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO DO TO INCREASE THE NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN THAT WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INCREASED OUR ORIGINAL ASP I FROM ONE PENNY TO TWO PENNIES. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE HAD HAD A LOOK AT THAT TIME, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CERTAINLY BETTER TO HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. THEN VERSUS NOW. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. YEAH RIGHT. IF I MAY ADD TO WHAT MR BASSETT JUST MENTIONED THAT TELL IN PART. IF WE HAD BEEN AWARE OF THIS INFORMATION, WE WOULD HAVE PRESENTED A NUMBER EQUAL TO WHAT WE NEEDED. WHERE THE OPTION FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE REDUCTIONS IF THEY DESIRED, BUT WE WOULD ALSO BEEN ABLE TO MODEL THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE TAX RATE, AND IT COULD HAVE INDICATED THAT WE NEEDED MORE THAN A PENNY LIKE STEVE JUST MENTIONED, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE KEY INGREDIENT THERE. WE WOULD HAVE PRESENTED TWO OPTIONS. ONE OF THIS IS WHAT THE ACTUAL COST IS. HERE'S THE IMPACT OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE BOARD THE OPTION TO TELL US TO MAINTAIN THE TAX RATE OR TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO INCLUDE THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES. OK SO ESSENTIALLY, OUR PROJECT SCOPE WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE IT IT IT DOES TODAY. WE EITHER WOULD HAVE REDUCED OR WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY. UM. HOWEVER, NOW WE MADE PROMISES. AND SO I'M BACK TO MY PRAYER. I'M PRAYING YOU CAN HELP KEEP OUR PROMISES BECAUSE OUR BABIES DESERVE IT. UM ALRIGHT, SO A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, AND I'M GONNA CARRY ON AS I AM. RUNNING THROUGH HERE. BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE ALREADY ASKED HIM TRYING NOT TO REPEAT WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED UM, BUT ALSO TO BUILD OFF OF SOME OF THEM. AND. OKAY, I WANNA READDRESS ONE THING AND I KNOW WE ADDRESSED IT IN THE LAST MEETING, AND IT JUST GOT BROUGHT UP AGAIN. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE DO SO UM AS FAR AS C MAR VERSUS CFCS PIECE OR FROM YOUR EXPERTISE. WHICH METHOD IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE. MY EXPERIENCE AND RESEARCH I'VE DONE IT SAYS IT SEEM OUR OVERALL IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE. UM AS I MENTIONED, IT DOES HAVE A HIGHER INITIAL COST. BUT WHEN YOU TALLY UP ALL YOUR EXPENSES AT THE END OF THE PROJECT SO FAR , IT SEEMS LIKE SEYMOUR IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE OF THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROJECT DELIVERIES. OKAY AND CAN YOU SHARE HISTORICALLY YOU'RE LIKE EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS BOND MANAGEMENT OR, UM, YOUR BREATH OF KNOWLEDGE WHERE IT COMES FROM . I'M SORRY. I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT WITH THAT, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE. WELL I HAVE, UM, BEEN INVOLVED WERE FIRST OF ALL I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ARCHITECTURE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY SINCE. 1979 OR SO YEAH, ABOUT 1979 OF DONE WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY DONE SOME INTERNATIONAL WORK OF TRUSTEE. UM GARCIA MENTIONED THE FACT THEY'RE A DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHODS HAVE WORKED WITH SIX OF THEM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST YEAH, ABOUT SIX OF THEM, AND, UM THEY ALL HAVE THEIR MERITS THEIR PROS AND CONS AND ALSO MENTIONED TO YOUR TEACHERS, AND SO I HAVE TO TEACH MY STUDENTS ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT HELPED ME TEACHES THE FACT THAT I'VE USED THEM. UM I MANAGED THE UM HOUSTON USD BOND. I WAS BROUGHT IN TO FINISH UP THEIR 2007 BOND. FOR THEM, UM , AND THEN ALSO HELPED SPEARHEAD AND MANAGE THE 2012 BONDS. UM. 2007 WAS ONE POINT RIGHT AT 1.2 BILLION. AH, THE. 2012 BOMB WAS 2.1 BILLION AND. WE BUILT A LOT OF FACILITIES. I'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON ON CAPITOL PROGRAMS HAVE WORKED WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT CITY OF HOUSTON PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, A COUPLE OTHER AGENCIES IN THEIR CAPITAL PROGRAMS, BOTH AS ARCHITECT OWNER'S CONSULTANT. DIFFERENT THINGS SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT AND JUST I FEEL[01:25:02]
LIKE WE'RE REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD IN THIS PART OF THE TEAM, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU BRING TO US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, UM ALL RIGHT.THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION, AND THIS IS MAINLY ON THE FORWARD PLAN. AND AGAIN, MR WILTS. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING IT FORWARD PLAN. I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE THING THAT I HIGHLIGHTED AND IT STUCK OUT WAS THAT YOU WILL NOT PRESENT NUMBERS THAT ARE OLDER THAN SIX MONTHS. AND SO THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE. IT'S JUST WE'RE IN A NEW STATE.
UNFORTUNATELY. WITH THIS CRAZY INFLATION AND TIME THAT WE'RE IN. BUT ONE THING, THOUGH, THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND SO JUST WANT SOME CLARITY AS YOU MENTIONED GETTING THE DEPARTMENT AND CAMPUS LEADERS. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE CONSULTANT DID. PREVIOUSLY WHEN I WAS WATCHING BACK AND I DIDN'T GET TO WATCH BACK THE WHOLE MEETING LAST TIME, BUT THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY DID THAT ON OUR BEHALF AND WENT TO THE DEPARTMENTS IN CAMPUS LEADERS AND THAT EVERYBODY PUT THEIR WISH LIST IN AND THEN ALL ROLLED INTO THIS SPREADSHEET, AND THEY WENT AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES AND PUT THE PICTURES ON AND SHARED WHATEVER ISSUES THERE WERE WITHIN THE BUILDINGS. SO CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THAT? SO YOUR YOUR RECAP IS ACCURATE. THAT'S PART OF THE. THE OVERALL INITIAL PLANNING PHASE. THAT'S WHERE YOU GET EVERYONE'S WISH LIST. AT SOME POINT WE COME BACK WITH THE NUMBER THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE WISH LIST. SO WE NEED TO RECONVENE ALL THOSE STAKEHOLDERS SO THEY CAN HAVE INPUT AND PRIORITIZE THEIR PROJECTS BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM WILL MAKE THE FINAL CUT. OKAY AND THEN BACKED. SO SORRY, GUYS. MY ASTHMA IS KICKING IN, UM, BACK TO THE PRIORITIES, THOUGH, IS WHAT I'LL CALL IT. WHAT I RECALL BEFORE FROM THE TEAM WAS SHARING WITH US THAT THERE WERE PRIORITY ONES, PARTY TWOS AND PRIORITY THREES AND SAME THING. LET'S SAY I'M A PRINCIPAL AND I HAVE A WISH LIST. I MIGHT HAVE AN H VAC SYSTEM AND THAT'S MORE CRITICAL. IT'S GOING TO BE A PARTY ONE AND THEN MAYBE I WANT SOME NEW CARPET. UM. AND IT'S STILL OKAY. IT MIGHT BE PRIORITY THREE OR SOME SPECIAL CHAIRS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW. HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE? WELL I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. UM GOOD QUESTION. EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE BOND IS A PRIORITY ONE.
THEY WERE PRIORITY ONES. THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE LIST. SO NOW WE ARE. BE PRIORITIZING OUR PRIORITY ONES TO SAY THIS HAS TO BE INCLUDED. THIS IS THIS IS A NON NEGOTIABLE. UM BUT THERE'S AGAIN SOMETIMES THE BUDGET DOESN'T MATCH THE NEED. SO IF EVERYTHING IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE FINAL CUT, WE SHOULD HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP THAT LIST HAVE INPUT. OKAY, SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR BOND DEVELOPMENT ON FUTURE BONDS. YOU'RE YOU'RE REFERRING THEN TO RE LOOKING AT THIS CURRENT BOND FOR THE FOR THE FUTURE, THE FUTURE CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, UM.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK IS THIS ON INTERNAL PROJECT MANAGERS, WHICH I THINK IT'S AWESOME IF WE'VE ADDED THEM TO OUR STAFF, BUT DO THEY COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR THE BOND FUND? THE MY ENTIRE STAFF COMES FROM THE BOND FIND INTERNAL INTERNAL. YES, OKAY.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO ADD ADDITIONAL STAFF, THAT'S NO PROBLEM. THEY WOULD COME FROM THE BOND FUND AND THEY WOULD NOT BE TAKING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AT ALL. NO, NOT AT ALL.
OKAY. UM AND THEN, LASTLY, THIS AS FAR AS THE INCREASE. I KNOW WHAT YOU SAID. THE 132 IS THE MEDIAN. BUT THEN THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OR THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE AROUND 18. FOR BENEFITS AND ALL THE OTHER EXPENSES. OKAY YEAH, THAT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR AN EMPLOYEE. THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WAS THE MIDPOINT. WE HIRED LESS THAN THAT, TYPICALLY, BUT BUT, YES WHENEVER WHENEVER THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS PUT FORWARD WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE HYBRID OR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO HIRE AS MANY AS EIGHT FULL TIME PROJECT MANAGERS DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OUR OWN INTERNAL BUT FOR EACH ONE THAT WE DO ADD WE WOULD BE SAVING MONEY ON OUR JACOBS CONTRACT. AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY OUR BEST INTEREST TO, YOU KNOW, HIGHER THE HIGHER THESE FOLKS. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD, WELL, HAPPY HIRING TO LINDA AND LASTLY, JUST ON THE BOARD UPDATES MONTHLY. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THAT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CRITICAL TO ALL OF US, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT TOGETHER. AND WITH THE PUBLIC SIZE AS WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE, MISS JONES. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE. UM. SURE I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. STEVE YOU SAID THAT HIS PREDECESSOR RECEIVED AN EMAIL IN NOVEMBER. CORRECT YES,
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MA'AM. GLENDA I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN DID HIS PREDECESSOR LEAVE? WHEN DID. I GOT THAT DATE HERE OCTOBER 13TH 23. OKAY OKAY, SO YOU GUYS FOUND OUT THAT SHE LEFT. I'M JUST KIND OF CONFUSED WHO RECEIVED THE EMAIL IN NOVEMBER IF SHE LEFT IN OCTOBER. WHAT THEY KNOW THE NOVEMBER BUT THAT WAS IN 2022. OKAY SO IT WAS IT WAS THE PRIOR WAS THE POWER OF NOVEMBER. OKAY, SO EXPLAIN HOW MANY PRIOR TO THIS PRIOR TO FEBRUARY. HOW MANY ESTIMATES CAME IN THAT WE'RE OVER BUDGET. HOW MANY ESTIMATES PRIOR TO WHAT, PRIOR TO LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH'S MEETING.HOW MANY ESTIMATES CAME IN THERE WERE OVER BUDGET. UM I HAD HAD TO GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY. LET'S SAY ROUGHLY ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY ABOUT HALF A DOZEN ABOUT HALF A DOZEN.
HALF A DOZEN ESTIMATES OKAY AND PRIOR TO BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD, WHERE THERE ANY WHAT MEASURES WERE TAKEN TO CORRECT BEFORE IT GOT TO US. WHAT WE DO. UM AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. UM WE RECEIVED THE ESTIMATES. WE LOOK AT IT IMMEDIATELY AND TRY TO DETERMINE HOW DOES THAT FIT WITH EITHER INTERNAL NUMBERS ARE ETERNAL EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE AND OUR BUDGET? OF COURSE. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO VERIFY IT OR VALIDATED THROUGH A THIRD PARTY. WE ASKED THE ARCHITECT OR CONTRACTOR TO GO BACK AND EITHER REBID THE NUMBERS. IF IT'S A BIG PROPOSAL, GET OTHER BIDS MORE BIDS TO DO THAT, UM, WE GO THROUGH A WHOLE SERIES. WE CALL UP FRIENDS AND FAMILY. IF YOU WILL, ANOTHER WORDS OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SAY YOU JUST DID A PROJECT VERY SIMILAR TO OURS. UH, STEVE MENTIONED THAT UNDERLIES D BID SCHOOL VERY SIMILAR TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL 16. SO, YES, WE WERE COMPARING NOTES WITH THEM, THE CONTRACTORS AND WHOEVER ELSE WE COULD TO SAY WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOURS? YOU HAVE THE SAME OVER RIDGE WE HAD. WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET IT DOWN? AND SO WE WORKED BEFORE WE COME TO YOU AND SAY, OH, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. WE HAVE REALLY VETTED THAT NUMBER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION. OKAY SO MUCH. MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DID THE DESIGN CONTINUE, ALTHOUGH IT WAS OVER BUDGET UM, I HAVE INSTITUTED A POLICY THAT IF THE PROJECT IS MORE THAN 10% OVER BUDGET, THE DESIGN CANNOT CONTINUE. OKAY I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WHAT THE POLICY WAS BEFORE I CAME. BUT THAT'S BEEN A PRACTICE I'VE ALWAYS USED IN IT. I FOUND IT EFFECTIVE, OKAY? BECAUSE I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH OKAY. WE WERE OVER BUDGET SOMEONE APPROVED TO CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OVER BUDGET, AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO ACTUALLY APPROVED THE CONTINUATION, KNOWING KNOWINGLY THAT WE WERE OVER BUDGET. HMM. YEAH. WE CAN RESEARCH THAT AND SEE FOR YOU.
AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. OKAY OUR POLICY NOW IS IF IT'S MORE THAN 10% OKAY, CANNOT PROCEED. OKAY? SO I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU, UM. YOU SAID THAT PROJECTED COSTS ARE BASED ON INFLATION. WHAT IS THE NATIONAL INFLATION RATE RIGHT NOW? HMM IT HAD TO DOUBLE CHECK. I KNOW FOR 22. I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN THE LATEST NUMBERS FOR 23. BUT FOR 22, WHERE I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 8% OR SO THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY WOUND UP BEING SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 13. OKAY 13, MAYBE EVEN AS HIGH AS 14% IN SOME MONTHS, BECAUSE I READ THE ARTICLE THAT YOU SUBMITTED? MM HMM. SAID. TEXAS AND SPECIFICALLY. THE WOODLAND SUGARLAND. HOUSTON WAS SEVENTH. IN THE NATION, YES, AND THAT THE RATE OF INFLATION WAS 5.2% SO THAT'S NOT THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION. IF WE'RE SAYING THAT, IS THAT 13% CORRECT? LIKE AGAIN. I SAID THAT WAS 22. OKAY WE STILL NEED TO SEE 23 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HIGH YEAR AS WELL. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FINAL NUMBERS ON 23. I THINK WE HAVE AN APPLES AND ORANGES SITUATION, THOUGH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE 5% OF YOU'RE MENTIONING IS MORE GENERAL INFLATION VERSUS CONSTRUCTION INFLATION. I THINK THE NUMBERS THAT DAN WAS TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. MY
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CONSTRUCTION INFLATION BY REFERENCES, SAME ARTICLE IT BASICALLY SAID THAT HOUSTON, SUGARLAND AND THE WOODLANDS WERE AT 5.2. SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WELL. IT'S HIGH, BUT IT'S NOT AS HIGH IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES. SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT. HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY FORECASTING PARTICULARLY, UH, FORECASTING PROJECT NUMBERS HERE. BASED ON. THOSE INFLATION NUMBERS IS NOT AS HIGH AS YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THEY ARE. UM TRUSTEE THERE SEVERAL RESOURCES HERE IN THE CITY. UM THE ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS PUBLISH INFORMATION THAT IS SPECIFIC TO CONSTRUCTION. UM, THE UM, SEVERAL CONSULTANT FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE IN NOTHING BUT ECONOMIC STUDIES IN CONSTRUCTION . ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WORKED THAT IS ONE OF THEIR SPECIALTIES. ONE OF THEIR SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER. UH THEY HAVE A TEAM THAT LITERALLY ALL YEAR LONG. ALL THEY DO IS REPORT STUDY AND RESEARCH.ECONOMIC FACTORS. OKAY SO WE HAVE ALL THOSE THAT ARE DISPOSAL, AND THOSE ARE WHERE WE'RE DRAWING. INFORMATION FROM AND THAT'S WHERE OUR CONTRACTORS ARE USING TO DO THEIR PRICING.
OKAY OKAY. AND SO FOR ME. DR SMITH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE WE HEAR IT OUT THERE. I REMEMBER. SOMEONE ASKED ME IS 1.2 BILLION ENOUGH MONEY AND I'M LIKE NOW IT'S WELL, IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AND HOW DO I GO BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM IN REGARDS TO THIS? MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS IS AS ALWAYS GOING BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS, ESPECIALLY. IF WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE I WANTED MY ASK IS WE HAVE DONE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO CUT EVERY COST POSSIBLE, EVEN IF IT MEANS DELAYING SOME PROJECTS TO ANOTHER BOND SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEM. THAT'S MY ASK SO BEFORE IT EVER COMES BACK TO US AND SAYING, WELL, HEY, WE NEED MORE MONEY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE. BEFORE WE EVEN GO DOWN THAT ROAD. MY OTHER THING IS AND I APPRECIATE DAMIAN SAYING ABOUT SIX MONTHS. I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE TO US AND TO ME, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS LAST MINUTE AND IT WAS AT THE NINTH HOUR AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOU MUST APPROVE IT. AND THAT DOESN'T FLY TOO WELL WITH ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE AND DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME AND THE TRUSTEES AND HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THEIR RESEARCH AND TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING EVERYTHING. SAYING THAT I WAS STATED THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SO I'M NOT I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON THE NOVEMBER 2022 EMAILS, SO I'M I AM CLEAR ON ONE RECIPIENT OF THE EMAIL, THE FORMER EMPLOYEE SO WHO WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT EMAIL WAS SENT BY A CONSULTANT SAID YES, SOMEBODY CONSULTANT CONSULTANT, P. B K E B K, OKAY. AND THAT CAN THAT THAT WAS THE EMAIL THAT CONTAINED THE MORE ACCURATE IT HAD PLANNING FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE. OKAY, NUMBER NUMBER SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT. AND SO YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T IT WASN'T SHARED . WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE EMAIL ONCE ONCE. YOU KNOW ONCE ONCE WE STARTED SEEING THESE NUMBERS YOU KNOW, DANCE TEAM GOT BUSY WORKING ON? HOW CAN WE GET THE NUMBERS LOWER. OKAY BUT THEN, BUT THEN DAMIEN HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED WITH EVERY BASED BUDGETS AND SO IN TALKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, THEY ENDED UP FORWARDING SOME OF THE INFORMATION TO US, OKAY? AND THEN JUST I WAS JUST TO BE CLEAR WHEN IT MAKES EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS MISTAKES AND DIDN'T HAVE THE EMAIL EITHER. I MEAN, YOU KNOW SO ASHLEY ASHLEY DIXON, THE DIRECTOR, SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE EMAIL EITHER. OKAY THANK YOU, MISS JONES. THANK YOU, MR HAMBLETON. MS HANAN, SO I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR DR SMITH AND THE BOARD. BUT WHEN I WAS I WAS A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE SEEING THIS LEADERSHIP TIMELINE. BUT AS I SIT HERE, AND I THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ONE FORMER EMPLOYEE BUT MY CONCERN IT IS. I RECALL THAT I VOTED. AND IF I DID NOT, PLEASE CORRECT ME. BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE INTERIM CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER. TO COME IN. DID WE VOTE ? WAS THAT A POSITION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD THAT WE VOTED FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN TEMPORARILY AS A CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER? AND NOW I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M HEARING THAT THAT THIS PARTICULAR PERSON DIDN'T HAVE BOND EXPERTISE. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE BOND TIMELINE, THIS LEADERSHIP
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TIMELINE THIS PERSON WAS BROUGHT IN IN A WINDOW. EXACTLY FOR THE BOND. SO I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHEN WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN INTERIM, AND WE'VE GOT A CRITICAL SITUATION LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE RELY HEAVILY ON HR AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND WHEN WE MAKE A VOTE, I TAKE THAT VOTE VERY SERIOUSLY. YOU KNOW, WE REVIEW EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION.SO, UM. YOU KNOW WHY? WHY? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE EMPLOYEE AND ONE CONSULTANT. MY OTHER MY OTHER CONCERN THAT I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS TO DR SMITH, UM AND BECAUSE THE OTHER STAT YOUR YOU'RE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE ON THE YOU KNOW, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING WITH HERE. UM YOU KNOW? WHY WOULD WE NOT HAVE A FAIL SAFE SYSTEM OF SOME SORT ON SUCH A HUGE ISSUE? NOT JUST THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO WAS, YOU KNOW, SAYING WHO WAS THAT CONSULT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT WAS A CONSULTANT. AND SO WE KNOW WHO THE CONSULTANT IS. HOW DOES ONE EMPLOYEE IN THIS DISTRICT OWN SUCH. DETRIMENTAL INFORMATION. THAT THAT'S THAT'S I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER. BUT I'M JUST YOU KNOW? NEXT TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE TO BRING IN THAT THE VOTE THE VOTE. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON BRINGING A PERSON IN UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON IS FULLY CAPABLE OF THE JOB. ESPECIALLY IN E TEAM MEMBER. SO THANK YOU NOW. THANK YOU. MS. HANAN DR. SMITH WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOMETHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, AND THANK YOU BOARD. THIS IS BEEN GOOD FOR ME. WHILE I CAN'T DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHEN I CAN ASSURE THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC IS JUST FROM A SYSTEMATIC STANDPOINT, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY PHILOSOPHY. TO TRUST BUT VERIFY. AND SO, YES, YOU HAVE YOUR RELIABLE AIDS AND YOUR TEAM OF EXPERTS THAT YOU BUILD AROUND YOU TO GET THE WORK DONE. BUT AS A LEADER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE PROPER CHECK AND BALANCE. AND SO WHAT I'VE SEEN AS AN EFFECTIVE PRACTICES.
WHATEVER THE DECISION, IS, IT STARTS VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS THAT THE LEADER ESTABLISHES THE PROPER CHECKING BALANCE SO THAT YOU CAN CHECK AND VERIFY AND CHECK AND VERIFY AND THEN TRANSPARENCY REPORTING IS ALWAYS ESSENTIAL. SO MOVING FORWARD AS WE WORK TOGETHER, UM, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL HAVE FROM THE TEAM AND I, AS WE MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE VETTED IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER, AND THEN WE GET DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE TAKE ANY NEXT STEP. MM THANK YOU. DR SMITH. MISS MALONE. YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YES AND IT'S MAINLY TRUSTEE HANNON. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL BUT THAT CEO INTERIM DID HAVE BOND EXPERIENCE AT OUR NEIGHBORS. UM. BIG TIME, BUT I HEARD SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT WHAT HE WAS HERE IN THE CORRECT BUT THE BOND PLANNING, THOUGH, SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE QUESTION. I'M GOING TO ASK BECAUSE I ASKED THIS EARLIER TODAY AS WELL, UM SO BOND PLANNING. WE MET, UM FEBRUARY 9TH. BUT WHEN WAS THE BOND PLANNING DONE? WELL, I DIDN'T THE BOND PLANNING WAS DONE OVER A YEAR'S TIME. I MEAN, SO I THINK THAT ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE PLANS FOR THE ORIGINAL BOND TO BE DONE IN 2021 , YOU KNOW, BEFORE WHILE I WAS WHILE I WAS GONE, AND THEN THEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO NOT DO THE BOND IN 2021. SO THEN IT GOT PUSHED. AND THEN THE TIMING EVENTUALLY PUSH IT, TOO MAY HAVE 2023 AND SO THE SO THE PLANNING WAS DONE DURING THAT WHOLE TIME EARLIER TODAY, YOU MENTIONED THE BOND WAS CALLED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023 AND THE BOND PLANNING WAS DONE UP TO THAT DATE. SURE I MEAN AT THAT TIME AT THAT TIME, RIGHT? WHAT I'M TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE HERE, I GUESS IS THAT THE INTERIM CEO WAS HIRED AFTER THE BOND PLANNING HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE. YEAH. BUT WE DIDN'T SAY THAT PLANNING ISSUE THAT HAPPENED FROM THE NOVEMBER PRIOR TO IN 2022, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUR MONTHS PRIOR. IT. IT WAS AN UNKNOWN VARIABLE TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM. IT WAS AN UNKNOWN VARIABLE TO ALL OF US, AND IT ALSO WOULD HAVE BEEN UNKNOWN TO ANY CEO. OH IF IT'S NOT COMMUNICATED TO THEM. BUT IN FAIRNESS FOR THAT GENTLEMAN, UM HE CAME IN AFTER THE PLANNING WAS ALREADY DONE AND WE WERE CALLING THE ELECTION AND TO BE
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CLEAR, SO THERE WAS TWO MONTHS, TWO MONTHS, DECEMBER AND JANUARY . YOU KNOW THAT THAT OSCAR WAS IN THE OFFICE WHEN CHRIS CAME IN IN FEBRUARY, HE ASKED ME HOW CAN I HELP YOU? I SAID I'M ALREADY WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TEAM. SO LET'S FOCUS ON TRANSFORMATION.FOCUS ON DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION , THEN YES, AFTER WE GOT THE BOND CALLED, YES, HE WAS. HE WAS HE WAS INVOLVED AFTER AFTER THAT. AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION, AND I ASKED THIS EARLIER AND I THINK JUST FOR PUBLIC PURVIEW, ALASKA AS WELL. SINCE NOW WE'VE POINTED TO ONE EMPLOYEE. DID ANYONE REACH OUT TO THAT EMPLOYEE AND GET THEIR POSITION ON THIS? WE HAVE NOT OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE. I'M GONNA COME IN AUGUST, UM FINISH THIS UP. UM.
I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WHEN I FIRST BECAME A BOARD MEMBER. AND I'M SURE THAT MISS MARTINEZ SKIN REMEMBER AND PROBABLY, MR BASSETT THAT I DO A LOT OF WRITING AND I TAKE TIDBITS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT. NOT THAT I INTENDED TO DO THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO PULL IT TOGETHER. JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO HERE'S WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT. I HEARD. HOW DOES THIS SQUEEZE LOOK LIKE? UM. I HEAR ABOUT CHECKS AND BALANCES AND COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW. I HEARD IT'S A STRUGGLE. THE EXECUTIVE TEAM DIDN'T KNOW AND THAT'S WHAT WE STRUGGLE WITH. UM I HEARD. OWNING IT COMING TOGETHER AND FIGURING IT OUT. AND THEN I STARTED THINKING. OF A SOLUTION BECAUSE I'M LIKE WE'RE AT THE END OF THIS. AND WE HEAR A LOT OF WHO SAID THIS? WHAT WENT? WHAT? SO. IN THE SOLUTIONS. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE IS WHAT I'M THINKING. WE LOOK AT THE PAST WE STUDY THE WHAT IFS. WE DID WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER HAD WE BEEN AWARE OF SOMETHING? AND THEN I REMEMBER MY MOM, ALWAYS SAYING WOULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE COULD HAVE AND YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE DAY, SHE WOULD SAY WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE COULD HAVE TAKE THAT AND TAKE A DOLLAR AND YOU HAVE A COKE. COCA COLA. OKAY, UM. IN MY BRAIN. I'M THINKING I TRUST THAT WE WILL GET IT RIGHT. I HEARD ABOUT UPDATING NUMBERS AND UNDERSTANDING NUMBERS. MAINTAINING THE BUDGET. THE TIMELINE AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL. I CAN DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE BACKGROUND AND HOW WE GOT HERE IN THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, MY TRIBE ARE WE ALL ASKED MY FORMER MY PARTNERS HERE AND TRUSTEES. UH, BUT THE BACKGROUND IS HOW WE GET HERE AND THEN THE PLAN TO POSSIBLY GET US OUT. SO WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. AND I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT APOLLO 13. AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO AN APOLLO 13 IS WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT HERE TO MAKE THIS BETTER. TO GET THE ASTRONAUTS BACK. HOW DO WE AND IT'S? OF COURSE, THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT. SO I'M VERY GLOBAL WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT, AND I'M ALL I KEEP ON THINKING IS HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE AND YOU KNOW, I WAS ALSO WOULD SAY EVERYTHING ABOUT HOPING AND PRAYING. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD. I KNOW I CAN MAKE MS MARTINEZ LAUGH ABOUT THAT, OR AT LEAST SMILE AND IT'S A MATTER OF . I DO HOPE THAT WE AS A BOARD CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN START UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE IN. I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET EVERYTHING OUT. AND THEN WE CAN GET A PLAN AND GET MOVING AGAIN. AND. IT. IS IT AGAIN. IT'S IT JUST I JUST THINK ABOUT APOLLO 13 AND THEY THEY JUST ALL CAME IN THERE, AND IT'S LIKE THIS IS IT I CAN HAVE BEEN PRINCIPAL AT AT A HIGH SCHOOL AND I CAN REMEMBER ISSUES AND THEY WEREN'T ANYWHERE AT THIS MAGNITUDE.
PLEASE DON'T DON'T DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO SHARE OR TRY TO, YOU KNOW, COMPARE THE TWO BUT I CAN REMEMBER WHERE IT WAS TIME TO MAKE A DECISION. OKAY THIS HAPPENED. THIS HAPPENED. THIS HAPPENED THIS HAPPENED THIS HAPPENED THIS HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THIS. THIS THIS THIS AND THIS, AND I WOULD WALK IN. I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? SO I'M I'M HOPING I WANT AND I KNOW THAT'S COMING. WHAT IS THE PLAN? HOW ARE WE GONNA HOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK THIS AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT'S THE RIGHT THING
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TO DO? SO AND I. I'M I'M ASKING THE TRUSTEES FOR ALL OF US TO COME TOGETHER AND HIS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT ARI TEAM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT WHAT IS GOING ON? BUT AGAIN, I THANK YOU, DR SMITH THAT YOU'RE ALREADY PUTTING OUT THERE. OKAY? WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KNOW EACH ALL OF IT THAT'S GOING ON AND WHEN ALL OF IT IS GOING ON, AND WE DO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS. I WANT US. THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE CAN TALK AND I KNOW THAT WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW. AND WE CAN HAVE THAT. AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE AN UPDATE TO WHERE THE UPDATE COMES AND HERE'S HERE'S WHERE WE ARE. AND WE HAVE ONE VOICE. AND UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. AND I'M SURE MY TRUST MY MEMBERS WILL DEFINITELY LET ME KNOW. WELL, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SAY MY THING, AND BUT I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL TOGETHER OR START THINKING ABOUT BEING ALTOGETHER AND, UM GETTING THIS THING, RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY THE NEXT THING HERE. AND THANK YOU 18 FOR THAT PRESENTATION, AND WE ARE NOW[7.A. Fort Bend ISD Board of Trustees Meeting Minutes]
MOVING TO OUR AGENDA REVIEW. OUR FIRST ITEM IS FORTMAN ICED BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE MR WILBANKS. TO PRESENT. ITEM B POLICIES, BBB, LOCAL AND EVER LOCAL. RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO SENATE BILL 763 AND[7.B. Policies BBB (Local) and FO (Local)]
DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT NON BUSINESS DAYS. MR WILBANKS. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT AS YOU MENTIONED THE NEXT THREE ITEMS. AS WE MENTIONED HIS THE NEXT THREE ITEMS. YOU CAN HEAR ME. BORROW HOW ABOUT THIS ONE? THAT'S BETTER. AS YOU MENTIONED THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. OUR MIND WILL BEGIN WITH THE POLICY ITEM. WE HAVE TWO POLICIES FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION THE POLICY COMMITTEE MET AND HIS RECOMMENDING POLICY BBB LOCAL.THIS IS YOUR ELECTIONS POLICY. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES BEING RECOMMENDED. FOR THIS POLICY. THIS POLICY WAS LAST UPDATED WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL IN 1996, AND SO WE ARE SIMPLY BRINGING THAT INTO THE MODERN AGE KEY POINTS. YOUR ELECTIONS ARE EVERY THREE YEARS. AND SO THIS POLICY REFERENCES THOSE CYCLES BASED ON 1997 1998. SO YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT THREE YEARS FROM THEN WE'LL UPDATE THOSE WE'RE ALSO GONNA ADD SOME CLARITY TWO QUESTIONS THAT COME UP REGARDING OUR PRACTICES THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CLEAR. FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAW REGARDING WHETHER THERE'S A RUNOFF WELL, THE LAW STATES. YOU'RE ELECTED BY PLURALITY UNLESS THE BOARD PASSES A RESOLUTION. OTHERWISE SO PERIODICALLY WHEN THAT QUESTION COMES UP, WE'RE LOOK WE'RE LEFT TRYING TO PROVE THAT YOU HAVEN'T PASSED THAT RESOLUTION. WILL THIS POLICY SPECIFICALLY STATES? THAT THE ELECTION IS BY PLURALITY OR THIS POLICY, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES AND CLARIFIES THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS DOESN'T CHANGE PRACTICE. IT'S SIMPLY CLARIFIES, UM AND UPDATES THE POLICY. THAT'S POLICY BBB. LOCAL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS ON THAT. POLICY IF YOU HAVE THEM. MS HANNAN. SO THANK YOU, MR WILBANKS. I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE DID HAVE, AND IT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND TWO OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE CONSIDERATION OF FOUR YEAR TERM RATHER THAN A THREE YEAR TERM, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS NOT. AND I WANT TO SAY NOT ABOUT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, BUT WHAT IT WAS ABOUT WAS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE POPULATION DENSITY OF FORTMAN BECAUSE THE DIVISION WHERE WE DO THE DIVIDING LINE HASN'T BEEN CHANGED IN DECADES AND DECADES. RIGHT AND SO THAT IS STILL PENDING. WE WERE GONNA GET SOME INFORMATION FROM PASTA AND AGAIN. IT WASN'T ABOUT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE POPULATION DENSITY AND HOW WE DO OUR POSITIONS ONE THROUGH THREE WEST SIDE. THREE. 45 DO I HAVE THOSE BACKWARDS? EAST SIDE PLUS ARE AT LARGE, SO I JUST WANTED TO
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UPDATE THE BOARD. SO YOU KNOW THAT WHAT? WE'RE PASSING? UM TODAY. IS JUST WHAT MR WILBANKS SAID. BUT WE DID HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO FINALIZE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN WE GET THE DATA FROM PASTA. THANK YOU. MR HAMBLETON? YES SO JUST KIND OF ECHO THAT SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE POLICY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT. JUST UPDATING THE DATES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHEN MR WILBANKS WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL TO DO THE MATH EVERY TIME WE HAVE WE HAVE ELECTIONS. UM SO JUST UPDATING THE DATES AND THEN SOME RATHER MUNDANE CHANGES. BUT THEN TRUSTEE HANAN REQUESTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. SO IF ANYBODY WE WANTED TO GIVE THE FULL BOARD AND OPPORTUNITY UH, JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY POSSIBLE CHANGES REGARDING THE WAY WE ELECT TRUSTEES SINCE AS TRUSTEE ANNAN'S MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN REALLY HAVE THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION OPENLY, SO I JUST WANTED TO OPEN THE FLOOR IF ANYBODY WANTED TO. UM EXPRESS OPINIONS OR PREFERENCES ON PROPOSED OR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO HOW WE ELECT TRUSTEES. I JUST WANT TO ADD AND MR ROB BANKS, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. THE FOUR YEAR TERM ISSUE WAS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE OF SOME LEGAL SOME LEGISLATION. WE CAN'T DO THAT CORRECT SO THAT CORRECT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE LAW DOES NOT PERMIT THAT CHANGE. OKAY SO AND THEN I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT TO THE FULL BOARD. I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TRUSTEE HAMBLETON IS IT IF AFTER WE GET THE DATA TO LOOK AT. IT MIGHT BE A RICHER CONVERSATION, OR THERE MAY BE NO NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO SHUT PEOPLE DOWN, BUT I'M JUST SAYING SO WE CAN MOVE ON BECAUSE WITHOUT THE DATA, I CAN'T EVEN YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT THE POPULATION DENSITY AND WHERE THE FEEDER PATTERNS UM.FALL THAT'S A CHALLENGE. OKAY THANK YOU WERE READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM. SO STILL ON THIS POLICY ITEM. YOU HAVE A SECOND POLICY POLICY FO THIS IS YOUR GENERAL STUDENT DISCIPLINE POLICY. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IS THERE. THE FIRST CHANGE IS THE ADDITION OF A STATEMENT THAT REQUIRES THE ADMINISTRATION TO PRESENT TO YOU THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AT THE JUNE MEETING EVERY YEAR. AND SO THAT CHANGES ADDED, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A CHANGE IN CLARIFICATION AND LANGUAGE REGARDING THE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL TREATMENT OF STUDENTS IN DISCIPLINE. THOSE CHANGES ARE IN ON PAGES, 42 AND 43 OF YOUR BOARD BOOK, AND THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL POLICY FOR THIS MONTH.
HMM. SO 11 QUICK COMMENT ABOUT FOO LOCAL, SO ONE OF THE KEY CHANGES WAS JUST, UM, WITH THE WAY THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT SITUATION PLAYED OUT THIS PAST YEAR. WE WANTED TO BRING UP THE TIMELINE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND BOARDED AND PUT IN THE SPRING AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE STAFF MORE TIME FROM THAT POINT THROUGH THE FALL. SO THAT, UM, WE JUST HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE BOARD INPUT, SO I KNOW THERE WAS A MEETING THAT I AND ONE OTHER TRUSTEE, WE WERE INVITED TO THAT NEITHER ONE OF US COULD ATTEND. AND SO WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR FEEDBACK LAST SPRING. UM AND SO THAT'S PARTLY ON US FOR NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR INPUT. SO THAT WE DON'T GET TO RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED AND HAVE OUR FIRST LOOK AT THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. UM AND THEN A SHORT WINDOW TO GET FROM. KIND OF OUR FIRST TIME SEEING IT TO APPROVAL, SO WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT THIS WOULD IMPROVE THAT PROCESS, SO WE'RE WE WOULD AVOID SOME OF THE CONFLICT WE GOT OURSELVES INTO LAST YEAR. MISS MALONE? YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOCTOR GILLIAM AND, UM REALLY, I THINK WITH WITH ALL OF THAT OCCURRED AROUND THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. WHEN I SAW THIS CHANGE, I WELCOME THE CHANGE WITH OPEN ARMS AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS THANK YOU TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR DOING SO. I THINK IT NOT ONLY REFLECTS THE WILL OF STAFF BUT ALSO WHAT WE HEARD ON THE DAY IS FROM TRUSTEES AND ALSO PARENTS IN GENERAL, AS WELL. AND SO BY DOING THIS AND PUSHING THAT DATA ON HERE, EVEN IF THERE'S THINGS GOING ON. WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE AN AMENDMENT
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THEREAFTER IF NEED BE, BUT THIS GETS US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, TOO. MITIGATE MITIGATE, YOU KNOW RISK OF ANY OF THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN C[7.C. Resolution pursuant to Senate Bill 763 (2023)]
ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS THE RESOLUTION REGARDING SANIBEL 763. IN YOUR BOARD BOOK, YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION FROM THE POLICY COMMITTEE. AS YOU ARE AWARE, SANIBEL 763 WAS PASSED BY THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND REQUIRES THE BOARD TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE BEFORE MARCH 1ST ON WHETHER TO ADOPT A POLICY AUTHORIZING CAMPUS OF THE DISTRICT OR SCHOOL TO EMPLOY OR ACCEPT AS A VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN UNDER THE NEWLY CREATED CHAPTER 23 OF THE EDUCATION CODE. THIS RESOLUTION RECITES THAT LAW. THIS RESOLUTION AFFIRMS THE DISTRICT PRACTICE OF WELCOMING VOLUNTEERS IN OUR SCHOOLS, INCLUDING CHAPLAINS WHO MEET THE VOLUNTEER REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS, AND THEN IT GOES ON TO DECLINED TO ADOPT OR DECLINED TO FURTHER THAT POLICY UNDER CHAPTER 23 MG EDUCATION CODE. AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WERE A VOTE FOR IS ACTUALLY TO DECLINE TO EXTEND , SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO. YOU ALSO WANT TO ADD A PROCEDURAL PIECE NUANCED BECAUSE THE LAW REQUIRES A RECORD VOTE.THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. IT WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY. SO JUST AS A REMINDER NEXT MONTH WHEN THIS COMES UP. MR GARCIA. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW EMAILS ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT.
WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT. WE'RE VOTING ON THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. CORRECT. SO YOU KNOW, FOLKS WILL PROBABLY UM LIVING IN SUSPENSE, WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO VOTE. I WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE POLICY COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO DECLINE DISTRICT SO. UM I WOULD MUCH RATHER SPEND THE MONEY. AS THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR COUNSELORS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHAPLAIN AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THERE'S NO UM NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, UM, EVEN TAKING A LOOK AT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE COLLEGE. CAREER MILITARY READINESS OF THOSE THOSE COUNSELORS THAT WE'VE HAD TO CUT THOSE POSITIONS, SO THOSE ARE TWO ME VITAL IMPORTANCE AND YOU KNOW, WE DO. AUSTIN DOES LIKE.
TO POLITICIZED THE SCHOOL BOARD. I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE ATTEMPTS TO DO SO. SO BUT ANY ANY ANY EFFORT FOR US IS ALL ABOUT MHM EDUCATING OUR KIDS. KEEPING OUR CHILDREN SAFE. AND I WELCOME ANYONE WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND VOLUNTEER. WERE WE OPEN? WE WELCOME FOLKS WITH OPEN ARMS. I'VE DONE IT FOR YEARS. IT'S AMAZING OPPORTUNITY. I ENCOURAGE ANYONE AND EVERYONE AND I KNOW THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, PROBABLY MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, UM FORMER BOARD. FORMER TRUSTEES ENCOURAGED OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST WITHIN CHURCHES. BUT BOYS AND GIRLS, CLUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO I THINK IT'S THE MORE WE CAN DO TO PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN CHURCH ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE OF HAVING A POLICY WHERE WHERE WE EMPLOY I THINK THAT'S THAT'S IDEAL THAT KEEPS THE KIDS ENGAGED, DOING THINGS OUTSIDE OF JUST SCHOOL, EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND IT KEEPS YOUR MIND FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS. I APPRECIATE IT. DO WE HAVE? MR HAMILTON'S MS HANNAN IS YOURS UP. HMM SO, UM, BEING ON THE POLICY COMMITTEE IS IT'S AN INTERESTING UM EXPERIMENT. FOR I'M SORRY. WAS THAT A 14 EXPERIENCE NOW. UM BUT WHAT I WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS, UM BESIDE THE POLICY COMMITTEE, UM. IN AUGUST. WE HAD SPEAKERS AND TONIGHT WE HAD SPEAKERS. AND IN AUGUST, I RECEIVED EMAILS REGARDING THIS. AND FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS I'VE BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS. SO WHAT I WANT WHAT I WANT CONSTITUENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO KNOW IS THAT YOUR INPUT IS SO VALUED. WHETHER THAT'S ABOUT A SPECIFIC STUDENT OR A CAMPUS. UM WHEN YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CAN'T GET WHAT YOU NEED , AND I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT
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SITUATION, BUT I WANT TO SAY, AND I PROBABLY SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD IS THAT I VALUE THE INPUT EVEN WHEN I DON'T AGREE WITH THE INPUT. I WANT TO HEAR PERSPECTIVES, SO THE PERSPECTIVES IN AUGUST WERE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE PERSPECTIVES I'VE RECEIVED LATELY. UM BUT AGAIN TO MY FELLOW, UM, POLICY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I KNOW THAT THAT THAT WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS AND TO MR WILBANKS. I APPRECIATED THAT HE DRAFTED THE CHAIR HE DRAFTED TO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS THAT CAME TO US AND AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WE FELT, UM. SUPPORTED OUR STAFF BECAUSE I DID EXPRESS CONCERNS BECAUSE YOU KNOW SOMEONE, THEN HAS TO BE THE PERSON THAT WOULD BE OVERSEEING THIS, AND I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO BE THE COUNSELOR BECAUSE OUR COUNSELORS DON'T NEED ANY ADDITIONAL WORK. NOR DO OUR, UM, PRINCIPLES AND SO WE LOOKED AT IT FROM MANY DIFFERENT ANGLES FROM FROM FROM RELIGION FROM STAFF. ANYWAY I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD, AND, UM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR WILBANKS. MR HAMILTON'S THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SO THIS IS A RATHER COMPLEX ISSUE.AND SO I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF US IMPLEMENTING A CHAPLAIN POLICY WHETHER IT'S PAID OR VOLUNTEER. I THINK THEY FOCUS ON THE PROS. AS WITH MOST ISSUES, THE PROS THAT WOULD BE, UH, POTENTIAL POTENTIALLY HAD IF WE IMPLEMENTED SUCH A PROGRAM, AND I THINK THOSE IN OPPOSITION FOCUS ON THE CHALLENGES OR THE OR THE POTENTIAL SETBACKS UM AND SO I THINK I THINK AS WE WORKED TO LOOK AT THE PROS AND THE CONS. UM I THINK IT'S AS I WHERE I STAND. UH WE PUT. I THINK A VERY STRONG PARAGRAPH IN THERE THAT ARE IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT I WANT. I WANT TO READ. SO WHEREAS THE FOUR BEEN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WELCOMES VOLUNTEERS IN OUR SCHOOLS AND RECOGNIZES THE VITAL ROLE A VOLUNTEER PLAYS AND SUPPORTING THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE OF STUDENTS. INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS CAN VOLUNTEER THROUGH VARIOUS CAMPUS . SORRY, VARIOUS DISTRICT CAMPUS AND SCHOOL BASED VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. UM AND THEN. JUST TO BE CLEAR. WE DO WELCOME. UH PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FROM ALL FAITH BACKGROUNDS. AH UM AND THERE'S KIND OF A LINE IN THE SAND AS FAR AS WHAT YOU CAN DO WHILE YOU'RE AT SCHOOL, BUT UP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER YOURSELF A CHAPLAIN WHO IS VOLUNTEERING AT OUR CAMPUS, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU WILL BE VIEWED AS A VOLUNTEER AND YOU CAN VIEW YOURSELF AS A CHAPLAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, BUT I THINK AS IF WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AT THE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES OR SETBACKS, PART OF THE EQUATION UM, IT THEY'RE THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE HARD TO FIGURE OUT. UM AND SO I THINK MOST OF THOSE COULD PROBABLY BE SETTLED BY THE POLICY LANGUAGE. I THINK WE COULD WE COULD WORK ON CRAFTING A POLICY. HOWEVER I THINK, TRUST YOUR HAND AND ALLUDED TO THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY. WHAT WE WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING WOULD BE PUTTING A BURDEN ON EITHER THE COUNSELOR OR A CAMPUS ADMINISTRATOR, UH, TO NAVIGATE ALL OF THOSE ISSUES OF, UH, YOU KNOW, DO DO WE HAVE THIS ADULT WHO'S A CHAPLAIN ALONE WITH A WITH A CHILD? THE PARENTAL CONSENT ISSUES THAT COME INTO PLAY THE NOT ONLY DIFFERENT FAITHS BUT ALSO DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS WITHIN DIFFERENT FAITHS. AND SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY. UM AND THEN, ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THE OCCASION, THE EQUATION I DO THINK MOST OF THE VALUE THAT COULD BE HAD FROM INFLUENCING POLICY CHAPLAIN PROGRAM. UM, CAN BE HAD THROUGH OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. AND SO ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS AND WANTS US TO DO. A CHAPLAIN PROGRAM WOULD WELCOME YOU TO COME. COME BE A VOLUNTEER AND HELP IMPLEMENT, UH, VOLUNTEER GROUP AT A CAMPUS OR AT MULTIPLE CAMPUSES IN THE DISTRICT. UM AND THEN JUST ALSO, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT, MAKE IT BRIEFLY, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH STATING. WE THERE'S A IN MY OPINION THERE'S A VERY PERVASIVE INFLUENCE TOWARDS A PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS. UM ORIENTATION IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT I DON'T THINK IS ENTIRELY HELPFUL. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S PRESSURE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR EMPLOYEES TO
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BASICALLY ACT AS THOUGH YOU'RE SECULAR OR AN ATHEIST WHILE YOU'RE AT OUR CAMPUSES, AND I THINK IF THAT WERE DONE IN AN OVERT WAY THAN WE WOULD BE VIOLATING OUR STUDENTS AND OR OUR EMPLOYEES CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS BUT I THINK IT'S DONE IN A IN A SUB SUBVERSIVE WAY OR A UM. A MAYBE A LATERAL WAY TO WHERE STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEES ARE ARE SORT OF PRESSURE TO SET THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ASIDE, AND I THINK IT'S JUST WORTH TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THAT THE STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEES OF ALL FAITHS ARE WELCOME. AH THERE'S AGAIN THERE.THERE MAY BE A LINE IN THE SAND OF A STUDENT TRIES TO SAY HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS MAY MEAN THAT HE CANNOT TAKE A TEST ON A DAY THAT ENDS IN Y. THAT THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGED. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ABSURD, BUT, UM, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T IMPACT NEGATIVELY IMPACT WHAT HAPPENS AT SCHOOL? UM THAT WE WANT TO STATE THAT WE RESPECT ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR EMPLOYEES RELIGIOUS RIGHTS, AND I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR US TO GROW IN THAT AREA. AND I THINK OUR STUDENTS AND OUR EMPLOYEES IN SOME WAYS WOULD WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY FROM, UH FROM MAKING THAT PROGRESS TO WHERE WE EXPRESS THAT THAT ALL PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS ARE WELCOME HERE, AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE STRIDES IN, UM AND TRYING TO HELP OUR STUDENTS AND OUR EMPLOYEES. BE BETTER AT STEPPING INTO SOME CONVERSATIONS AND SAY, HEY, YOUR RELIGIOUS FAITH IS DIFFERENT THAN MINE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU BELIEVE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ON OUR CAMPUSES. UM AND I THINK THERE'S KIND OF ALWAYS A FEAR OF STEPPING INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND I THINK WHEN YOU WHEN YOU OVERCOME THAT FEAR AND YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IT'S OFTEN A REWARDING EXPERIENCE. SO THAT'S A LITTLE, UH, SIDETRACK FROM FROM THE CHAPLAIN POLICY ISSUE, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH STATING. SO.
THANK YOU. I'M GONNA COME IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HAMBLETON. UH WE HAVE ANGELS AND BELIEVERS AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE EACH AND EVERY DAY IN OUR SCHOOLS AND RELIGION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TALKED ABOUT AT ALL. WHEN YOU'RE JUST NICE, AND YOU'RE FRIENDLY AND YOU SEE SOMEONE AND YOU SEE THEM DOWN. IT HAPPENED TO ME TODAY. I WORK IN ANOTHER DISTRICT, AND THERE ARE TIMES THAT JUST BEING HUMAN. I WE CAN'T WE DON'T GO IN TALKING ABOUT RELIGION. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE FAITH, I KNOW YOU HAVE IT. WHEN YOU'RE BELIEVING IN SOMETHING I KNOW YOU'RE BELIEVING, AND I BELIEVE IN SOMETHING AND I DON'T HAVE TO TALK RELIGION. ANY CHILD. IT DOESN'T. I'M GOING TO BE NICE. AND I'M GOING TO BE COMPASSIONATE, AND WE HAVE SCHOOLS FULL OF EDUCATORS, COUNSELORS. CAFETERIA WORKERS. JANITORS. BUS DRIVERS. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE SEE SOMETHING ON THE NEWS ABOUT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WHO JUST TOUCHED CHILDREN? IN A SPIRITUAL WAY. THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY NAME. SO, UM IT'S IN THIS ROOM. WE TALK, SO I JUST I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M DEFINITELY UM WHAT IS IT? IF I VOTE FOR THEN I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. IS THAT CORRECT? AM I CORRECT? OK YEAH, I'M VOTING FOR IT. I SURE AM. AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU HAVE IT NOW. UM THANK YOU, MISS MALONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANECDOTES. UM ALRIGHT. SO FIRST OF ALL THE SAME THING I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR ALL OF YOU BEING HERE AND, UM SHARING AND FOR THOSE OF US WATCHING OR WHO EMAILED, ETCETERA, UM. WHERE WERE REPRESENTATIVES OF YOU ALL IN THIS VIBRANT AND DIVERSE COMMUNITY, AND WE WELL, I SUPPOSED TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR OTHER TRUSTEES. BUT I AM I RESPECT THE BELIEFS OF OTHERS AND THEIR PRACTICES IN THEIR VIEWS. I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS AS FAR AS A CHAPLAIN, I HAVE, UM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I HAVE TWO UNCLES THAT ARE MINISTERS. ONE OF THEM WAS A NAVY CHAPLAIN AND RETIRED IN THE U. S NAVY. AND I'M PROUD OF THAT, AND I DISCUSSED THIS WITH HIM AS WELL. UM BUT I THINK THAT ARE LICENSED COUNSELORS ARE
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TRAINED FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSE IN OUR SCHOOLS. AND THERE'S A MYRIAD OF CHALLENGES WITH OUR STUDENTS TODAY. AND THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED FOR THOSE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE AND TO MR WILBANKS FOR RIDING THIS I'M SO HAPPY AND ACTUALLY THE PARAGRAPH . I UNDERLINED WHEN I READ THIS THAT I APPRECIATE IT WAS AND I'M JUST GONNA SKIP TO THE PART WHERE IT SAYS PERMITTING ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MEET REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING CHAPLAINS TO VOLUNTEER TO PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICES AND PROGRAMS FOR STUDENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH DISTRICT THE DISTRICT'S EXISTING G KG LOCAL POLICY. SO WE DO WELCOME THEM.AND FRANKLY, UM, ARE INTERFAITH GROUPS AND PASTORS CURRENTLY SUPPORT CAMPUSES AND WE HAVE CHURCHES THAT PARTNER WITH OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES, MIDDLE AND HIGH, AND THEY PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SUPPORT CURRENTLY, AND WE WELCOME YOU. AND IF YOU'RE WATCHING AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT, RIGHT? TELL THEM ALL. COME ON, WE'LL TAKE MORE HELP.
THE MORE THE MERRIER, BECAUSE THAT MEANS OUR BABIES ARE BEING TOUCHED, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU CREATE A POSITIVE IMPACT. SO PLEASE CONTINUE THAT, UM. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS AND I FEEL A SENSE OF RELIEF.
ACTUALLY THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE. WHEN I SAW IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, I CAN I CAN BE BEHIND THIS AND FULLY SUPPORT IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE. MISS HANNAH, I JUST HAVE A POINT OF, I GUESS CLARIFICATION AND I WOULD LIKE, UM, INPUT FROM OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. BECAUSE I HEARD AND IF I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, RIGHT, MR HAMILTON'S, UM, I HEARD YOU KIND OF SOLICITING INPUT.
BECAUSE WE COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE. SPECIFIC CHAPLAIN POLICY UNDER G KG. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WERE. NO OKAY, SO FORGIVE ME. I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, AND I WANTED I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WERE, UM, TRUSTEE, MALONE ACTUALLY READ THE SENSE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, AS I WAS KIND OF SPEAKING ON THE FLY. SO THE PART THAT SAYS, WE WELCOME CHAPLAINS TO BE VOLUNTEERS ON OUR CAMPUSES. IT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
YEAH. SO NURSES, POSTAL WORKERS. WE JUST HAPPENED TO CHOOSE ONE WORD CHAPLAINS BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL 763. OKAY THANK YOU, MR HAMBLETON. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU SAID THAT 11 OTHER THING THAT I MEANT TO CLARIFY. SO THE LEGISLATION UM. THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE LEGISLATION THAT MAKES FUNDING AVAILABLE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE THE IT'S IT BASICALLY JUST SAYS THAT CHAPLAINS CAN BE PAID WITH THE SCHOOL SAFETY FUNDS THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE AND THE REASON I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING IS THAT WE SPEND ALL OF THAT MONEY ON SCHOOL SAFETY AND SO IN ORDER FOR US TO USE THAT FUNDING ON A CHAPLAIN PROGRAM, UH, AS AS WE ARE AS WHERE WE STAND TODAY, THAT WOULD MEAN REDUCING EITHER. EITHER REDUCING. EXPENDITURES ON SCHOOL SAFETY OR OR USING THAT WAS FUNDS ON CHAPLAINS AND THEN TAKING FUNDS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO USE ON SCHOOL SAFETY. AND SO, YES, THERE IS THE APPEARANCE THAT THE LEGISLATION ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR CHAPLAINS, BUT IT'S IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING. OKAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION AND JUST TO BE CLEAR TO THE REST OF THE BOARD. I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION AND I WILL HAVE A YES VOTE TO DECLINE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SENATE BILL 763. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HANAN MR WILBANKS , 70. THANK YOU. ONE MINOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE MOVE ON EARLIER, I MENTIONED THAT THIS WOULD COME BACK NEXT MONTH THAT I MISSPOKE. THIS WILL BE AT YOUR REGULAR FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING IN TWO WEEKS JUST TO CLARIFY ALL
[7.D. Designation of Public Information Act Non-Business Days]
RIGHT THE NEXT ITEM. SEVEN D DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC INFORMATIVE INFORMATION ACT NON BUSINESS DAYS YOU ADOPTED LAST MONTH, THE SCHOOL CALENDAR FOR NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. AS YOU REMEMBER IN THAT CALENDAR, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL HOLIDAYS, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. HAS DEADLINES THAT ARE BUILT ON BUSINESS DAYS. PREVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT ALLOWED US TO TREAT THOSE HOLIDAYS AS NON BUSINESS DAYS. HOWEVER THEY HAVE SINCE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE. AND SO THE ONLY NON BUSINESS DAYS THAT AS A DISTRICT WERE ALLOWED TO DESIGNATE UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, OUR HOLIDAYS, STATE AND FEDERAL HOLIDAYS WEEKENDS AND THEN THEY ALLOW YOU TO DESIGNATE 10. ADDITIONAL NON BUSINESS DAYS. AND SO THE[02:20:05]
RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU IS MY TEAM IS IDENTIFIED THOSE 10 DAYS OVER THE NEXT SCHOOL CALENDAR.UM, FOR YOUR DESIGNATION AS NON BUSINESS DAYS UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, PRACTICALLY THAT IMPACTS MY TEAM'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TIMELY ON ON WHICH DAYS WE SPREAD THOSE OUT.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE HOLIDAYS THAN 10 THAT ARE NOT STATE OR FEDERAL HOLIDAYS. AND SO WE'VE ALLOCATED THOSE IN A WAY THAT WE CAN MOST APPROPRIATELY RESPOND TO PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MISS MALONE. YES IS THIS SOMETHING THAT I'M FINE WITH THE DATES? BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUBLISHED ON THE T P FORMS SO THAT THOSE SUBMITTING REQUESTS ARE AWARE OF WHEN THESE STATES. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NONBUSINESS STATES ARE SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THEIR TIME FRAME. HAD TO FOLLOW UP TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE PUBLISHED ON THOSE FORMS OR NOT, UM WE CAN CERTAINLY PUBLISH IT ON OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION WEBSITE AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE.
THE SPECIFIC MANNER IN WHICH WE DO THAT I'D HAVE TO CHECK INTO OKAY. I JUST THINK IT'S PERTINENT INFORMATION FOR THE END USER WHEN THEY'RE FILING ONE, SO THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, AND I THINK COULD BE, UM, JUST A TRANSPARENT WAY, WHETHER IT'S ON THE FORM OR OR RIGHT THERE. BUT IF YOU COULD GET BACK WITH US ON THAT, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY.
[7.E. Resolution for National Procurement Month and Professional Buyer's Day]
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE MR GWYN. ITEM 70. YES MA'AM. THIS IS A DESIGNATION OF THE MONTH OF MARCH FOR PURCHASING PROFESSIONALS. IT'S A RECOGNITION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH COUNSELORS AND TEACHERS EXTENDING RECOGNITION FROM THE BOARD TO THOSE PROFESSIONALS WHO DO THAT WORK. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT MISS LAWSON. ITEM. SEVEN F. TONIGHT[7.F.1. Specialized Student Information Management System]
WE HAVE BEFORE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FUTURE APPROVAL. A NEW SPECIALIZED STUDENT INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THIS IS A WEB BASED PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL COMPLIANCE WITH OUR STUDENTS WHO HAVE INDIVIDUALIZED EDUCATION PROGRAMS AS WELL AS OUR SECTION 504 SERVICES. THIS SYSTEM WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP ACCURATE RECORDS. OUR CURRENT VENDOR, WHICH WE'VE HAD IN THE DISTRICT FOR A FEW YEARS. WE'VE HAD ENCOUNTERED SEVERAL CHALLENGES. AND SO WE HAVE GONE OUT THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AND BRINGING FORWARD TO TONIGHT, A NEW VENDOR. AND SO IT'S A VERY LIMITED SCOPE, SO VERY FEW VENDORS EXIST IN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S VERY CRITICAL INFORMATION THAT WE DO SUBMIT FOR PAINS AS WELL. SO BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY? MISS MALONE. THANK YOU, UM. ONE I'M REALLY SORRY. YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH THE PAINS OF BASICALLY NONPERFORMANCE. I READ THAT AND MY HEART WENT OUT TO YOU. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE ARE THE KIDS WHO HAVE THE GREATEST NEEDS. AND NOT GETTING ACCURATE INFORMATION AND DATA TO SUPPORT THEM. UM AS I WAS AS I WAS READING IT, UM, ACTUALLY, MY LINE STARTED TO GET REALLY DARK BECAUSE I KEPT GOING BECAUSE IT'S BOTHERSOME. SO I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE FROM FROM Y'ALL'S VANTAGE POINT HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS. SO I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND I SAW THAT IT'S A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT OF 7700 AND 66,559 DIVIDED IT OUT. UM, I GOT 1 53 3 10. ANNUALLY.AND THEN I SAW WE WERE SPENDING IN THE LAST YEAR TO 6331. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A REALIZED SAVINGS OVER THIS? THIS AGREEMENT OF FIVE YEARS. HMM I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE MR GAY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT HERE WITH SOME OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES. UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LIKE CALENDAR YEAR, TWO CALENDAR OR HOW THIS IS, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IF WE WERE SPENDING 263 31, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 153 JUST AN AVERAGE OF MAYBE AROUND 110,000 ANNUALLY IN SAVINGS OVER FIVE YEARS. IS THAT RIGHT, OR WE'LL JUST CALL IT 100. YES MA'AM. HALLELUJAH THE CONTRACT. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CONTRACT IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE USING A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT VERSUS WHERE WE HAD DONE AN RFP PRIOR AND SO, JUST BY FACT, VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S WITH A LARGER GROUP AND EVERYTHING. THERE ARE SOME COST SAVINGS IN THERE, BUT WE DO TRACK WHAT WE SPEND EVERY YEAR ON OUR CONTRACTS. AND IF WE SEE SAVINGS, WE TAKE CREDIT FOR HIM.
OKAY? ALRIGHT WELL, MR GAY. I KNOW I DIDN'T COMMENT ON THE BUYER'S RESOLUTION. BUT WHEN YOU JUST TOLD ME WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND
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WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING BETTER SERVICES FOR OUR KIDDOS. I'M GOING TO SAY I CAN'T WAIT TO CELEBRATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM IN MARCH. THANK YOU. YOU JUST MADE ME SMILE. FROM HERE TO HERE AND, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO. TO BE ENABLED TO FOR YOU GUYS BEING ABLE TO EXECUTE WITHIN THE REALM. YOU NEED TO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ON[Items 7.F.2. & 7.F.3.]
F TWO SMALL KITCHEN EQUIPMENT. THAT WILL BE MR WHEN AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CHILD NUTRITION. YES MADAM PRESIDENT THIS ITEM AS WELL AS THE NEXT ITEM ARE BOTH ASSOCIATED WITH CHILD NUTRITION AND THE CHILD NUTRITION'S SPEND DOWN PLAN WE DID RECEIVE A QUESTION ASKING FOR SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON THE SPIN DOWN PLANTS ALL PROVIDE THAT TO GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY ON THE TWO ITEMS YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THE FUN BALANCE IN OUR CHILD NUTRITION DEPARTMENT CAN BE NO LARGER THAN THREE OPERATING MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES. AND THAT'S BASED ON REQUIREMENTS FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. AND SO WE HAVE EXCEEDED THAT THRESHOLD, MAINLY BECAUSE OF OPERATING AND SUPPLY CHAIN GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING AND AFTER COVID. AND SO AS A RESULT, OUR FUND BALANCES NOW EXCEEDING THAT THREE MONTH OPERATING THRESHOLD BY ABOUT $12.97 MILLION, SO RIGHT AT $13 MILLION WHEN THIS DOES OCCUR, TEDA REQUIRES US TO PUT TOGETHER A SPIN DOWN PLAN THAT WE SUBMIT TO THEM FOR APPROVAL. WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE SUBMITTED OUR SPEND DOWN PLAN IN OCTOBER OF 2023. IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED IN DECEMBER 2023 AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE PLAN INCLUDED WAS TO REPLACE AGING EQUIPMENT AND CAFETERIAS ACROSS THE DISTRICT. SUCH AS DISHWASHERS, WARMERS, ETCETERA AGAIN. THIS IS ALL AGING EQUIPMENT THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE 23 BOND. AND SO THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR KITCHENS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE OCCUR.AND SO THE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD, HOWEVER, THAT APPROVAL WAS GIVEN PRIOR TO THE SPIN DOWN PLAN. AND SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH IMPLEMENTING THOSE CONTRACTS IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR US TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM ON THE SPEND DOWN PLAN, AND SO THIS IS INCREASING THOSE CONTRACT AMOUNTS IN ORDER FOR CHILD NUTRITION TO BEGIN UTILIZING THOSE VENDORS TO PURCHASE THE ITEMS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT T D A CODE TO HAVE OUR FUND BALANCE NO MORE THAN THREE MONTHS OF OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES. THANK YOU, MR HAMBLETON. YES, THANK YOU, MR GWYN. SO JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM AND ALSO KIND OF POINT OUT FOR ANYONE WATCHING. SO THE BUDGET SOURCES HERE IT SAYS CHILD NUTRITION FUND, FEDERAL FUNDS AND GRANT FUNDS AND SO ONE THING NOT LISTED THERE IS GENERAL FUNDS, SO WE'RE NOT USING GENERAL FUND. MONEY FOR THIS? YES SIR. YES SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. ALL EXPENDITURES FROM TRAVEL ATTRITION COME FROM OUR CHILD NUTRITION FUN, AND CONVERSELY, THEY ARE VERY RESTRICTED ON HOW THOSE CHILD NUTRITION FUNDS COULD BE USED. AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN. THIS PLAN HAD TO BE SUBMITTED TO TEDA FOR ULTIMATE APPROVAL. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT BECAUSE I READ IT AND READ IT AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS AND I'M ASSUMING THE ANSWER IS NO. BUT WE CAN ONLY USE IT. THE SPEND DOWN PLAN ON CAPITAL ITEMS. PIZZA CUTTERS BAG BAG THINGS WE CAN'T. THERE. WE HAVE SUBMITTED ITEMS I BELIEVE TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY DOING RETENTION TYPE SUPPLEMENTS FOR THE CHILD NUTRITION STAFF THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS WELL.
HOWEVER AT THIS POINT, THE MAIN RECOMMENDATION AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS FOR THOSE CAPITAL ITEMS. BUT YES, IT CAN EXTEND BEYOND CAPITAL ITEMS, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY TO FOR USAGE. OKAY, AND IT CAN AND WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. CAN YOU AMEND IT CAN I MEAN MY QUESTION TO YOU WAS CAN WE USE BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY IN THE BOTH OF THEM? I MEAN, ESPECIALLY THE 10 MILLION CAN YOU USE IT TO IMPROVE FOOD SERVICE OR ONLY ON STAFF LIKE THE ACTUAL CONSUMABLE? FOODS AND WHAT I'LL DO. I'M GONNA ALLOW MATT AND TECHNOLO, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CHILD NUTRITION TO COME FORWARD. IF IT'S RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE FOOD, I THINK HE MAY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. BUT PRIMARILY IT'S BEING USED AT THIS POINT FOR CAPITAL AUTOS, BUT ALTERNATE OVER TO MATT FOR THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, SO I GUESS THE FOOD QUESTION IS DIFFICULT TO ANSWER BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT RECIPE CHANGES AND STAFFING IMPROVEMENTS, STAFF TRAINING. I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY TALKING
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ABOUT FOOD IMPROVEMENTS, SO I MEAN FOR BRAND TYSON DOLE, UH, WE'RE NOT BUYING NO LABEL FOOD ITEMS THAT ARE GENERIC. IF YOU WILL, UM, I THINK A LOT OF OUR FOOD CHALLENGES HIS GOVERNMENT RESTRICTIONS. THE NUTRITION POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE I MEAN IS THE DEVIL IN OUR WORLD. I WAS TOLD ONCE BY SUPERINTENDENT THAT WE HAVE AS MANY, IF NOT MORE REGULATIONS AND SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT ARE ADMINISTRATIVE REFERENCE MANUAL THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE BY OVER 1200 PAGES LONG, WHICH IS MOSTLY RED TAPE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH. THE HOPE IS WE'RE BUYING $8.5 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT, LARGE EQUIPMENT FOR 45 CAMPUSES. THE HOPE IS THAT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE FOOD BECAUSE I'VE GOT HIGH SCHOOLS WITH SIX OVENS. TOP AND BOTTOM AND TWO OF THOSE OVENS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING. UM EITHER THEY'RE BEYOND REPAIR. THEY'RE TOO OLD THAT WE CAN'T FIND PARTS OR WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES TO GET THOSE PARTS AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A MAINTENANCE TEAM CURRENTLY OF THREE AND WE HAVE 600 PIECES OF HEART EQUIPMENT ALONE, NOT INCLUDING ICE MACHINES, REFRIGERATION AND FREEZER. SO UH UM, YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS EQUIPMENT THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED OR JUST NOT MAINTAINED . IF YOU REMEMBER DURING COVID. WE LOST A TON OF MONEY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T OPEN FOR SERVICE. OKAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX SOMETHING I WANT TO CLARIFY. MY QUESTION. DOES NOT. IT ISN'T ABOUT THE QUALITY OF OUR FOOD SERVICE STAFF, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING HARD AND THEY'RE THERE FOR OUR KIDS AND TAKING CARE OF OUR BABIES. AND I DO GET THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE HAS STIPULATED. YOU'RE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST SUPPORTERS AND I GET THAT AND SO AND SO, BUT I'M GONNA I'M GONNA ASK THIS DO WE STILL ARE WE STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UM, THOSE PACKAGES FOR SOME STUDENTS FOR OVER THE WEEKEND. OR IN THE EVENINGS OR ARE WE WERE STILL ABLE TO DO ANY OF THOSE ITEMS AT SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES. CHILD NUTRITION THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT AND CANNOT DO THE BACKPACK BUDDIES. UH THOSE TYPE PROGRAMS FOR FOOD OVER THE WEEKEND. WE DO OPERATE CH AFTER SCHOOL. EITHER SNACKS OR SUPPERS AT CERTAIN SCHOOLS THAT DO STUDENT IN RICHMOND. I BELIEVE WE'RE DOING 28 SCHOOLS CURRENTLY, OKAY? AND I'M SORRY. TELL ME WHAT THAT ACRONYM MEANT. FP CHILD ADULT CARE FEEDING PROGRAM. OKAY, SO AFTER SCHOOL SNACKS OR DINNER IS THAT THROUGH A GRANT OR IS THAT IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE STUDENT ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR STUDENTS TO EITHER STAY. CHESS CLUB ATHLETICS BANNED ALL THOSE COUNT. UH USUALLY IT'S TITLE ONE CAMPUSES.OKAY SO WILL THIS BE A ONE TIME THIS? UNFORTUNATELY SPEND DOWN BY SITUATION, SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT $9 MILLION IN EXCESS, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS SINCE COVID. EITHER THROUGH ADDITIONAL REIMBURSEMENT RATES FOR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AND ACTUALLY CCP, AND THEN WE'VE GOT FOUR SUPPLY CHAIN GRANTS, AND WE JUST GOT NOTIFIED LAST WEEK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM COMMISSIONER SAID MILLER CALLED ME I WAS I WAS KIND OF THOUGHT I WAS IN TROUBLE ACTUALLY, AND SAID HE HAD A $2 MILLION GRANT ON HIS DESK THAT HE WAS FIXING TO APPROVE FOR US FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPLY CHAIN. IT HAS TO BE USED FOR MINIMALLY PROCESSED FOOD SO WE CAN BUY MILK AND PRODUCE ONLY WITH THAT MONEY FREE UP. $2 MILLION ON THE OTHER SIDE, OKAY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS JUST AN UNUSUAL THING FOR ME TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY. ABSOLUTELY SOMEWHERE AND SO I WAS HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME LIKE WHAT IS THIS? M I READING THIS RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW WITH LONG FAM FAM. THANK YOU,
[Items 7.F.4. & 7.F.5.]
MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. SO THE NEXT TO OUR I T REQUESTS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR BROADCAST SYSTEM PURCHASED THROUGH INTER LOCAL PURCHASING SYSTEM TIPS AND THIS IS A BROADCAST SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING IN OUR DISTRICT FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AND THIS IS A RENEWAL. UH THE SYSTEM IS USED TO EDIT AND PUBLISH AND AS WELL AS MANAGE VIDEO CONTENTS WITHIN THE CAMPUS . THEY COULD USE THEM, ESPECIALLY IN ELEMENTARY TO DO THE BROADCAST MORNING BROADCAST TO THE REST OF THE CAMPUS. AND THIS IS JUST FOR RENEWAL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THANK YOU. DO[02:35:05]
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? YES ONE IS THERE JUST AS WE'RE. LOOKING AT THINGS WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. YES MA'AM, SO I GET IT'S A RENEWAL. AND THAT'S FINE. AND SO IF THEY ANSWER MAY BE VERY SIMPLE, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S CROSSOVER WITH PROGRAMS. WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTENCE THAT WOULD WORK. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN, CAN YOU BLUETOOTH TO THE, UM OUTFRONT SIGNAGE AND RUN A POWER POINT SLIDE SHOW ON THERE, OR IS IT DOES IT HAVE TO USE THIS PROGRAMMING OR BROADCASTING SOFTWARE? YES, MA'AM, BECAUSE WHAT IT IS, IS THAT IT BROADCASTS USING THE MIXERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED LOCALLY AS WELL AS THE CAMERA. WITHIN THEIR THE INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS STUDIO AND AS THE SENATE JUST SIGN IT YOURSELF, IT IS SEPARATE SYSTEM. THAT DOESN'T CROSS OVER. OKAY, SO THIS SPECIFIC SOFTWARE IS NEEDED TO RUN AND SINK. YOU CAN'T USE OTHER VIDEOS, SOFTWARE AND ALL OF THAT. I DON'T VIDEO SOFTWARE IS WE ALREADY OWN LIKE OTHER VIDEO SOFTWARE, WE ALREADY HAVE LICENSING. THESE ARE SERVER BASED RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND SERVER BASED, BUT DON'T WE HAVE OTHER SERVER BASED VIDEO SOFTWARE? MM THE ONLY ONE THAT ONE THAT WE HAVE IS A SECURITY CAMERA, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR SECURITY CAMERAS. OKAY? SO THIS IS NECESSARY? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU, CHIEF WRITER. UH WELL, ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE MORE SORRY. SO THE NEXT ONE. THE NEXT ONE IS FOR COMPUTER HARDWARE SERVICES, AND WE DID A BID TO BITS. REALLY ONE FOR HP AS ONE. AS FOR DALE, THIS IS TO ALLOW US TO A PURCHASE VEHICLE TO BASICALLY START IMPLEMENTING THE BOND.PROPOSITION B. THAT WAS PASSED TO REPLACE OUR LAPTOPS FOR OUR STUDENTS AS WELL AS OUR TEACHERS. HMM. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY THANK YOU. CHIEF WRITER. ALRIGHT. GOOD
[7.F.6. Fire Extinguisher Annual Inspections]
EVENING. OF THIS ITEM IS FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, MAINTENANCE AND RELATED ITEMS FOR MULTIPLE VENDORS OFF OF COOP. UM WOULD BE ASKING FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2 MILLION FOR THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND THEN TO SINGLE YEARS OF OPTIONAL RENEWAL, SO IT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS IN TOTAL.THAT WOULD PUT US AT ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR NOT TO EXCEED THE DISTRICT HAS ABOUT 4750 FIRE EXTINGUISHERS. SO WE'RE TALKING EACH YEAR AT ABOUT $84 PER FAR EXTINGUISHER WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN THAT WAY. UM. WE HAVE, UM YOU SEE, WE'VE SPENT, UM LAST SCHOOL YEAR 2223 WE SPENT ABOUT $359,000 ON FIRE EXTINGUISHER, INSPECTIONS AND SERVICES. UM AND YOUR TODAY WE'VE SPENT OVER 377,000. SO THE 400,000 FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHERE WE THINK WE WOULD BE. UM AND SO THAT'S THE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. OKAY, THANK YOU,
[7.F.7. Paint, Supplies, and Related Items]
CHIEF WRITER GOING TO MR BILLS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THIS ITEM IS FOR PAINT SUPPLIES AND RELATED ITEMS. SO IT'S FOR THE CONTINUED PURCHASE OF PAINT AND PAINT PRODUCTS FOR OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF. UM, AS THEY ADDRESS PAINT CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT. THE NEXT ONE IS A SCHOOL[7.F.8. School Bus Cameras, Installations, Replacements, and Related Services]
BUS CAMERAS, SO ALL OF OUR BUSSES HAVE CAMERAS ARE NEWER BUSSES HAVE VERY NICE CAMERAS.UM HAD DEFINITION. UM THEY'RE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION , DOWNLOAD THE AUDIO AND VIDEO.
THERE'S AN INCIDENT. UM IT'S CLOUD BASED. WE CAN DO IT REMOTELY. OLDER BUSSES HAVE OLDER SYSTEMS WITH FEWER CAMERAS . AH THE QUALITY OF THE VIDEO ISN'T AS GREAT AND SOME OF THEM JUST DON'T WORK, SO THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO REFRESH OUR OLDER BUSSES. OKAY THANK YOU.
ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? YES UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. ONE I APPRECIATE THIS. I THINK THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR ON BUSSES AND SAFETY IS CRITICAL. AND. I
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REALLY, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE BULLYING OR INSTANCES OF JUST FIGHTING ON THE BUS. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT THERE THAT THIS THIS IS TO PUT MORE RELIABLE CAMERA FOOTAGE BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL MITIGATE INSTANCES. AND IT WILL BE A DETERRENT. BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT. AND SO IT WILL PROVIDE FOR, UM A SAFER RIDE TO AND FROM SCHOOL, AND I THINK IT WILL ALSO HELP THEN THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DAY, AND SO I REALLY STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. YES THE STATES WITH THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR WRITERS AND OUR DRIVERS, AND THERE'S ALSO EXTERNAL CAMERAS THAT THAT HELPED WHEN WE NEED TO RECREATE ACCIDENT. I'M IN AGREEMENT.[7.F.9. Student Ridership System and Software]
THANK YOU, MISS MALONE AND NUMBER NINE STUDENT RIDERSHIP SYSTEM AND SOFTWARE. SO THIS IS RELATED? UH, IT'S UM. DEFINITELY ON BUSSES SO THAT WE CAN TRACK STUDENT RIDERSHIP, OUR STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO UM, LOG IN OR SIGN IN CANON WHEN THEY GET ON THE BUS. AND THEN PROVIDE NOTIFICATION TO PARENTS OF WHERE YOUR STUDENT IS WHERE THE BUSSES WHEN THE BUS WILL ARRIVE AT THE BUS IS LATE, SO IT'S A GOOD TOOL FOR PARENTS TO HELP PLAN PLAN THEIR DAY AND KNOW WHETHER STUDENTS ARE IF THEY GOT ON ON OR OFF THE BUS. AT WHAT TIME HEY, THANK YOU, MS HANAN. UH, YES. THANK YOU. UM, I HAD. ASK A QUESTION AND EARLIER TODAY AND I SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GET IT TO ME. BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY. UM. THIS IS DISTRICT DISTRICT WIDE. ARE WE STARTING AS A PILOT? SO THIS WILL BE DISTRICT WIDE. WE'RE STARTING WITH THE PALETTE IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR, UM, BUT THE GOAL IS TO ROLL IT OUT DISTRICT WIDE IN THE FALL. AND SO THAT'S THE COST FOR DISTRICT WIDE CORRECT. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T ASK TODAY IS I'M ASSUMING THIS REQUIRES UM SOME KIND OF. HARDWARE BADGE THAT YES YARD. SO THERE'S HARDWARE FOR THE BUSSES, AND THERE IS AN ANTI CORN FOR THE STUDENTS ARE STUDENTS. WHO ARE BUS RIDERS ONLY HAVE THIS IDEA OR WILL EVERYONE HAVE THE SIDE? THIS IS A DISTRICT WIDE SOLUTION FOR I D CHORDS, SO OUR STUDENTS WILL HAVE AN ID CARD THAT THEY HAVE WILL BE USED ON THE BUS. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO CLOCK IN ON AN ATHLETIC TRIP ON A FIELD TRIP . OR WOULD THIS ONLY BE IN ROUTE FROM SCHOOL TO HOME? THIS CAN BE USED ANY TIME THEY GET ON THE BUS, SO FIELD TRIPS AND ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL. ALSO GOING TO ACT AS A STUDENT. I D STUDENT. I D OKAY.WILL BE UPDATED. EVERY TWO YEARS EVERY THREE YEARS. DO WE KNOW I THINK RIGHT NOW AS NEEDED. WE DON'T WANT TO REPLACE 80,000 NINETIES ANNUALLY, BUT BUT, YES, YOU KNOW THERE WAS. IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TRANSITIONS WHEN YOU GO FROM NORMAL TO HIGH OR OR, YOU KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY MISPLACE THEIR RECORDS I JUST DON'T WANT YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE KID TO HAVE, YOU KNOW. FACIAL HAIR SIMILAR TO YOURS, BUT HIS I D PICTURE YOU KNOW WAS FROM FOURTH GRADE AND SO, UM THEN THE OTHER THE LAST ITEM AND I'M SORRY TO TAKE SO LONG ON THIS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO IMPLEMENT DISTRICT WIDE. PROCEDURES MAYBE IT SHOULD BE IN THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT WHERE THERE IS EQUITABLE. DISCIPLINARY ACTION OR FINANCIAL ACTION FOR THE LOSS. OR NOT WEARING IT BECAUSE THAT THAT'S BUT YOU KNOW, NOT WEARING YOUR BADGE, SOMETIMES SOME CAMPUSES HAVE DETENTION ON THE SECOND TIME OR THIRD TIME. IF YOU LOSE IT, IT'S $5. IT'S A THING YOU KNOW IT'S A THING AT HIGH SCHOOL AND MAYBE MAYBE IT'S NOT AT SOME HIGH SCHOOLS. BUT IF THAT COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED AS A. STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES. TREATING. FOR GETTING IT AT HOME ONE WAY AND THE OTHER CAMPUSES, MRS. HANNON, UH, DR LIM LI HAS WORKED ON A PROCEDURE AND HE CAN GREAT. ONE SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME PROTOCOLS IN
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PLACE THAT WE HAD. PRIOR WHEN WE HAD OUR FORMER I, D, UM, COMPANY THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH AS WE WERE ALL OUT. THE TEAM WAS WORKING ON TWEAKING THOSE CURRENT PROTOCOLS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM FIT THIS NEW SYSTEM. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH WHAT WE HAD. TALK TO THE PRINCIPLES AND SEE HOW IT WORKED FOR THEM WHEN WE HAD IT WORKING A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THE I D S AND THEN, UM, WE'LL HAVE THE PROCESSES DOWN FOR THEM, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'LL BE PUBLIC. EVERYONE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. ALL THE PRINCIPLES WERE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE SURPRISE STUDENT HANDBOOK OR THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, OR YOU GUYS CAN HAVE IT WHEREVER YOU WANT IT. OKAY WELL, I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE VISIBLE BECAUSE AT ONE TIME EMAIL FOR SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THIS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE ADDITION. TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. MR HAMILTON'S OKAY. UM ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YES, OKAY. ALRIGHT UM MISS MALONE. ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA JUST PIGGYBACK ON BASICALLY EVERYTHING SHE SAID. AND THEN, PLUS, I WANNA JUST ONE ANECDOTE.SO WITH THE BAND 2023. THIS IS ONE OF THE PIECES. I BELIEVE THAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT BOND PACKAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. BOND FUNDS, UM I REALLY LIKE SEEING THE BOND. IT WORK IN A POSITIVE WAY. AND I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THEM. AND I REMEMBER DURING COVID WELL, LIKE THE MIDDLE OF COVID WHEN WE FIRST GOT ON, UH, KIDS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND, YOU KNOW, BUSSES NOT COMING, ETCETERA. AND SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO EXPRESS TO MR JONES. SINCE YOU'VE COME INTO THE DISTRICT, YOU'VE MADE SUCH AN INSTRUMENTAL DIFFERENCE. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HEAR HEAR FROM PARENTS AND I'M SURE IT'S STILL A CHALLENGE WITHIN THE MARKET AND SO FORTH AS FAR AS GETTING DRIVERS AND ALL OF THAT THAT CAPACITY, UM WITH THE DEMAND WE HAVE, BUT CUTE, HUGE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THANK YOU. I REMEMBER OFFERING TO BE A BEST DRIVER, UM, AT THE TIME BECAUSE I HAD DRIVEN FOR A AND M I'M LIKE, PUT ME ON A BUS IF I GET ANOTHER PARENT PHONE CALL, BUT ANYHOW. THIS THE OTHER THING IS WITH PARENTS, PARTICULARLY ELEMENTARY AGED CHILDREN BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE AT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS GIVES SUCH PEACE OF MIND TO OUR FAMILIES. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS BECAUSE I RECALL TWO YEARS AGO WHEN YOU DIDN'T IMPLEMENTATION, AND IT WASN'T JUST YOU COULDN'T JUST BY THIS BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I JUST WANT THIS THING. BUT YOU COULDN'T YOU HAD TO FIRST UPDATE THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THERE WERE SEVERAL STEPS TO THIS PROCESS AND MAKING IT HAPPEN. AND ALTHOUGH I WANTED INSTANT POTATOES WE NOW HAVE YOU KNOW THE MASHED POTATOES AND YOU'VE GOTTEN US THERE THROUGH THE MULTI STEP PROCESS WITH DOING ALL OF THE UPDATES SO IT WOULD SINK AND WORK AND I JUST THOROUGHLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. UH MAKING THIS HAPPEN, AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE, AND WE HAVE COME TO THE END AND SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CLOSED SESSION ITEMS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING ADJOURN.
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