12.B. Fort Bend ISD 2024-25 Proposed District Instructional Calendar: Consideration and approval of the 2024-25 FBISD Instructional Calendar and related staff development waivers.

[12.B. Fort Bend ISD 2024-25 Proposed District Instructional Calendar: Consideration and approval of the 2024-25 FBISD Instructional Calendar and related staff development waivers.]

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PRESENTED SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR MALONE. SECOND BY MR HANNAN. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? MR HANNAN? YES THANK YOU. UM AGAIN. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE. I KNOW IT IS A LONG AND HARD PROCESS AND WANT TO THANK MS WILLIAMS, STEPHANIE WILLIAMS FOR LEADING THAT. I ALSO ACTUALLY WANT TO PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO MS WILLIAMS WHEN SHE WAS ON THE DIOCESE AT OUR AGENDA REVIEW. BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO CRUNCH SOME NUMBERS UP HERE THAT I HAD RECEIVED ON THE DIET AND THE ONE THING THAT I NEVER EVER WANT TO DO IS CONFUSED THE PUBLIC BY MISSTATING NUMBERS, AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. UM BUT I DO APOLOGIZE TO MISS WILLIAMS AND I THINK I KIND OF PUT HER ON THE SPOT, AND SHE'S PROBABLY INCREDIBLY CONFUSED BY MY UM, VERY UN CALENDAR MATH. UM SO, BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THIS IS THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT . FIRST OF ALL, SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATA FROM THE CORE TEAM OF TEACHERS WHO WERE INVITED TO GIVE INPUT INITIALLY ON THE CALENDAR. THAT INVITATION WAS SENT 283 TEACHERS. AND OF THOSE 38 TEACHERS. SHOWED UP. AND SO MY CALL IS TO TEACHERS. UM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DIDN'T FLUSH OUT. FOR SECONDARY TEACHERS HOW THEY VOTED, HOW THEY WANTED THAT TO LOOK. AND SO THAT THAT AND I MENTIONED THIS LAST WEEK THAT THAT TEACHERS. TEACHERS ARE JUST REALLY MY HIGHEST PRIORITY AND THE PARENTS OF THOSE STUDENTS WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE CALENDAR, THOSE ARE THE TWO FOLKS THAT I THAT I THAT I'M REALLY LOOKING AT, AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I AM GOING TO ASK THE TEACHERS IN THE FUTURE. TO SHOW UP WHEN YOU'RE INVITED TO THOSE, UM CORE TEAM FORUMS BECAUSE THIS FIVE MINUTES ADDED TO THE DAY WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT BACK. AND THIS IS MY OPINION, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY AN EXPERT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE FIVE MINUTES PER DAY IS GOING TO MAKE A GREAT IMPACT ON OUR STUDENTS. STUDENTS RETIRED AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM ARE TEACHERS ARE TIRED AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND ESSENTIALLY THEY, YOU KNOW THEY'RE LOSING ONE DAY'S WORTH OF PAY WITH THAT, UM , I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE CALENDAR AS PRESENTED, AND I DO IT WITH WITH TREPIDATION. UM YOU KNOW, I HEAR OCTOBER AND FEBRUARY OR THE WORST BEHAVIOR MONTHS AND OUR KIDS AREN'T GOING TO BE THERE VERY MUCH IN OCTOBER. WE HAVE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME OFF IN OCTOBER, AND SO UM, THERE ARE JUST. I JUST I YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SHARING THIS WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT WHEN I LIT WENT THROUGH AGAIN, AND I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FROM THE CALENDAR. WE HAVE VERY FEW WEEKS OF SCHOOL WHERE KIDS ARE ACTUALLY COMING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. UH UM, IT'S AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE SO MANY DAYS THAT WE ARE MAYBE RECOGNIZING THE DIVERSE THE DIVERSITY OF OUR DISTRICT, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FOR THE FIRST NINE WEEKS. WE HAVE 54 WEEKS OF SCHOOL THE SECOND NINE WEEKS. WE HAVE 54 WEEKS OF SCHOOL THAT THIRD NINE WEEKS WE HAVE FOUR FULL WEEKS OF SCHOOL AND THEN FOR THE LONG HAUL IN THE FOURTH, NINE WEEKS, THAT'S WHERE WE HIT THE JACKPOT. WE HAVE SEVEN WEEKS. THAT WE HAVE FIVE FULL DAYS. AND SO WHEN I WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, AND I THINK YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER TAUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD. THE SECOND SEMESTER AT THE END AT THE AT THE END, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LAYING.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LAYING THE GROUNDWORK TO HAVE THE MOST CONSISTENT DAYS AVAILABLE FOR KIDS WHERE THEY SHOW UP FIVE DAYS A WEEK. FIVE DAYS A WEEK, THE LAST NINE WEEKS OF SCHOOL SO I WILL SUPPORT THE CALENDAR AGAIN. MY PLEA TO TEACHERS IS PLEASE BE PART OF THE ORIGINAL INITIAL FORUMS WHEN THE CALENDAR COMMITTEES ARE FORMED EARLY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR HANNAN, MISS JONES. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. WE ALSO

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70 WILLIAMS ALSO CLARIFIED A LOT OF THE DATES THAT WERE THERE THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED AT A GENDER REVIEW AND WHY IT WAS CRITICAL TO HAVE THOSE DATES ON THE CALENDAR. AND SO HAVING SAID THAT I FULLY SUPPORT THE INSTRUCTIONAL CALENDAR AND I'VE ENCOURAGED HIM TO GO AHEAD ON AND DO A SECOND YEAR CALENDAR. BECAUSE THERE ARE I HAVE SOME WANTS SOME SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THAT CALENDAR. AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GET AH, BRUSH ON IT, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. SO WITH THAT SECOND YEAR AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR JONES. MR MALONE. YES THANK YOU. I WANNA REITERATE AS IT DID BEFORE. JUST MY GRATITUDE FOR MRS WILLIAMS AND LEADING THE CALENDAR PROCESS IN THE CALENDAR MATH. I THINK YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT. I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO ALL THAT SERVED ON THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE. UM I WAS GRACIOUSLY A PART OF THAT, AND SO I JUST JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND AGAIN REITERATE THAT I WAS VERY GRATEFUL, UM, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. HONOR. CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY REGARDING VARIOUS HOLIDAYS, UM, AND RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCES. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND THEN BACK TO AND THIS IS GONNA PIGGYBACK ON MS HANAN ABOUT THE TEACHERS. I WILL ALSO REFERENCE THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE, FRANKLY, I EXPRESSED WHAT I HAD BEEN GIVEN FROM, UM THE PEOPLE. BECAUSE THAT'S MY CHARGES TO REPRESENT THEM. AND I SAID THAT AND THEN AFTER THAT, WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT, I ASKED THE TEACHERS ON THE PANEL. I SAID OKAY, I'M DEFERRING TO YOU ON THIS.

WHATEVER THE TEACHERS WANT. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. UM BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. OUR TEACHERS ARE FRANKLY THERE THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR SCHOOLS, AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THEIR VOICE AND THAT THEY ARE HEARD AND SO FOR EVERYONE WHO DID SERVE AND THOSE THAT DID SHOW UP . UM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND FOR THOSE WHO ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE SURVEY. I THINK MY ONLY ASK MOVING FORWARD AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A TWO YEAR CYCLE. UM I'D REALLY LOVE IT IF WE DID MULTIYEAR, LIKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND JUST KNOCK IT OUT. AND HAVE A LONG HAUL PLAN. SO THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE NECESSARILY NEEDING TO LOOK AT EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE ONE HARD LOOK AT IT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. THAT WOULD BE, UM ONE THING I THINK COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. BUT THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVING ON THE CALENDAR COMMITTEE. UM DR GILLIAM? YES THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SECOND SEMESTER. WE HAVE A LOT OF TESTING GOING ON IN SECOND SEMESTER, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE REASON FOR MAYBE BEING HEAVIER IN THE FALL WITH I DON'T KNOW. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE IN SCHOOL MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH TESTING THAT GOES ON. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. YOU ARE CORRECT, MISS KILLING OR DR GILLIAM. I BELIEVE IT IS STARTING AROUND MAY 1ST THE LAST WEEK IN APRIL TO MAY 1ST WHERE YOU REALLY CAN'T TAKE A HOLIDAY BECAUSE THEY'RE WINDOWS OF TESTING BETWEEN THE STAR AND SOME OF THE AP EXAMS. OKAY THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DIDN'T TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT THE CALENDAR. SO THIS IS JUST COMING STRAIGHT OUT OF MY HEAD AND BEING AROUND TEACHERS PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY AND AH, I'M IN A DIFFERENT POSITION WHERE I GET TO HEAR PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT STUFF AND THEY, YOU KNOW, I JUST LISTENED AND A LOT OF IT IS THAT THEY REALLY ARE THEY LIKE, AND I'VE HEARD THE SAME THING IN FOURTH, THEN AS FAR AS HAVING THOSE THREE DAY WEEKENDS THAT IT HELPS THEM BECAUSE OTHER A LOT OF TIMES THEY JUST TAKE THIS THE DAYS OFF, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT TOO. SO THAT'S JUST MY YOU KNOW, KIND OF THROWING THAT OUT THERE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW I DIDN'T DO ANY RESEARCH BY IR ON IT. I JUST HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING . I THINK AT THE SAME TIME I'M HEARING MULTIPLE YEARS OR WHATEVER. I WOULD HATE TO TRY TO DO A CALENDAR FOR YEARS FROM NOW, OR FROM THREE YEARS FROM NOW, AND EVEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, I THINK I THINK THAT IT'S SPECIALIZED AND TO DO IT. EVERY YEAR TO WHERE WE COULD HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE IF IT GOES FOR THREE YEARS, THAT MEANS THAT WE HAD A COMMITTEE AND THAT COMMITTEE WAS THE COMMITTEE THAT DECIDED WHAT WAS GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS, AND SOME OF THOSE TEACHERS MAY NOT EVEN BE HERE IN FORT BEND SD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO FOR US TO REALLY THINK ABOUT

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THAT, AND I WANT US AS A BOARD ALSO. AND I THINK YOU SAID IT AND YOU SAID IT MISS MALONE AS WELL AS YOU. ALSO MR HANNAN IS BASICALLY IT IS WHAT DO OUR EMPLOYEES WANT NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE WANT. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW HERE IS IN MY HEAD. I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WHOLE BUNCH, BUT I YOU KNOW, I SIT BACK. IT'S LIKE, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY ANYTHING? BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHTS . AND I'M HERE TO HEAR WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR TEACHERS AND OF COURSE FOR THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND ALL OF OUR STAFF AND SUPERINTENDENT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS I'M SITTING HERE, I'M DOING WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS ME TO DO WHAT ARE OUR STAKEHOLDERS WANT US TO DO SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN START THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT IS NECESSARY NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE WANT. BECAUSE THERE'S OKAY.

I'M GOING TO STOP NOW. THANK YOU . THANK YOU, DR GILLIAM. MISS MALONE? YES. AND ACTUALLY, DR KELLY. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE EXPRESSED MYSELF A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ON THAT ON THE I YEAH, BUT THAT WAS, UM, I THINK ON THIS SURVEY. THAT'S WHY YOU WERE CONSIDERING THE TWO YEARS IF I RECALL CORRECTLY IS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC AND THE FEEDBACK WAS THEY WANTED A LONGER CALENDAR AND NOT JUST ONE YEAR AND THEN AGAIN. THIS WASN'T MY WISH LIST. IT WAS , UM, FEEDBACK FROM HEARING THINGS FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TEACHERS THAT FOR PLANNING AH, THAT IT IS.

WHAT THEY'VE KIND OF SAID. YEAH ME. HONESTLY GIVE ME THE CALENDAR. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

I'M FINE WITH IT. HOWEVER IT'S BEST FOR THE DISTRICT BUT AGAIN REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD. SO THAT'S THEIR FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE. THANK YOU, MISS WILLIAMS. UM I JUST I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY IDEA WHO HAVE ONE QUESTION, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO AIKO MISHAN IS CONCERNED TO BE HONEST ONE. I DID THE TWO CONCERN I HAVE FOR THIS CALENDAR IS REALLY THE FIVE MINUTES ACTUAL TIME. UM PLUS THE DAYS WE HAVE THE HOLIDAYS WE HAVE IN OCTOBER. THAT'S A LOT OF HOLIDAYS. I DO BELIEVE I ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH, UM DR GILLIAM. IT'S HARD TO PLEASE EVERYONE. IT'S REALLY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. UM BUT I JUST WANT TO I'M NOT EDUCATOR. UM I WANTED TO LIKE WHY I THINK THE TEACHERS FEEDBACK IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW. WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE STUDENTS? RIGHT I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE EMPLOYEE. BUT WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE STUDENTS TO WAIT? IS THAT A GOOD TO HAVE A THREE DAYS WEEKEND? ALL THE TIME. OR DO WE HAVE IS A GOOD WE HAVE, LIKE QUARTER OF OCTOBER, STUDENTS ARE OFF CAMPUS. UM MAYBE MAYBE IT'S GOOD, RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S GOOD, SO THEY HAVE A BREAK. EVERYBODY HAVE A BREAK, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK RECHARGED. SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S YOU GUYS WILL HAVE BETTER ANSWERS FOR THOSE QUESTIONS THAT I DO, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THOSE UP. ANOTHER THING IS, I THINK I ASKED THIS AND I THE STARTING TIME FOR HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK WE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT PARTY AND THE FIRST MISS MALONE SAID. MAYBE THE TRAFFIC OR IT'S HARDER TO GET THERE. WE ALL HAD SOME CONCERNS HOW HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TOGETHER ON TIME.

SOMETIMES THEY DRIVE THEMSELVES. UM SO I DO. REMEMBER YOU MENTIONED THIS. GOING TO PUT IT INTO SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. I'M NOT SO SURE OR EVASION PLANNING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK DR SMITH UNDER THE TEAM WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, PLEASE LOOK INTO IT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO THANK YOU. UM SO NOW LET'S LET'S VOTE PRESIDENT. SORRY COMMENT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE START TIME FOR HIGH SCHOOL, CAN WE AT LEAST DO A TRAFFIC STUDY RATHER THAN SO, MR. I THINK I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS TO THE TEAM, UM, TO SAY WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, BECAUSE I THINK YEAH, I CAN SEE HOW WE SIX TOWER. I CAN SEE CRAWFORD, ESPECIALLY 521. IT'S HORRIBLE IN THE MORNING BECAUSE

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I GO THAT WAY THAT MORNING IN THE MORNING, SO YES, I'M PRETTY SURE TRAFFIC STUDY IS COMING. I THINK I OKAY. SO HERE'S MY THOUGHTS. I DON'T WANT TO JUST POINTED OUT ONE STUDY BECAUSE WE WANT TO JUST TELL THEM THAT'S WHY HE GOT PAID. AND WE DON'T UM SO SAID DR SMITH. I MEAN, I THINK, JUST LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU, DR GILLIAM. THANKS MR. YEAH VERY QUICKLY. UH THE BUS ROUNDS ARE DEPENDENT ON WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT THE BUS ROUTES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHEN SCHOOL STARTS SO HIGH SCHOOL STARTS BECAUSE THEY GET UP EARLIER. THEY'RE DRIVING. YOU CAN GET THEM THERE. AND SO IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH BUSSES. SO IN TRANSPORTATION, AND SO I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT. BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. IT'S VERY HARD TO TRY TO GET YOUNG CHILDREN TO SCHOOL FIRST AND THAT TYPE OF THING, SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME OUT IN THE STUDY. THANK YOU GOT DR GILLIAM. I'M NOT SAYING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AGAIN. IT'S I'M I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP. YES. YEAH, THANK YOU. SO NOW LET'S VOTE. LET ME LOOK THEM VOTING ON THE CALENDAR. LOVELY. OKAY, FINE. YOU. MOTION PASSES 70. SO

[12.D.2. Construction Manager at Risk Guaranteed Maximum Price Phase #1 for Rebuild of Briargate ES: Consideration and approval of a Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) Phase #1 for Long Lead Items Allowance, sitework and underground utilities for Briargate Elementary School Rebuild (BP001), for a not-to-exceed amount of $14,250,000, and authorization for the Superintendent to execute the GMP Phase #1.]

CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR AGENDA ITEM 12. THE. TWO I MOVED. MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVED TO APPROVE CONSENT OF GINA AND AGENDA ITEM D TWO. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY DR GILLIAM AND SECOND BY MS HANAN, DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? MR GARCIA. MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD POSTPONED THIS ITEM D TWO TO THE NEXT BOARD. MEETING OF FEBRUARY. 26 2023. I SECOND THAT. I DEFINITELY 2ND 2ND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR GARCIA AND THE SECOND BY MS JONES. THE MOTION IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, UH, MR GARCIA IS TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM. UM TO FEBRUARY THE 26 FOR MEETING. UM, I'VE HAD. YEAH. SO WE MET LAST WEEK WITH BUDGET ON COMMITTEE AND WE WENT OVER A NUMBER OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN SOME OF THE UM, NUMBERS ARE COMING IN HIGH. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING UM. ON THE WE HAD A BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. LAST WEEK. AND A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS WERE SHARED. SO THE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ASKED WERE IN REGARDS TO, UM WHERE WERE WE SEEING THE RISING COSTS AND I MET WITH STAFF TODAY , AND THEY PROVIDED SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. I WAS KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN I WAS SORT OF AGAINST IT IN THE BEGINNING, THEN I WAS KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO GO BACK. I THINK SOME OF THE NUMBERS HEART. LOOKING RIGHT? AND I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD SUGGESTED WAS WHEN WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE ARE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM MAXIMUM PRICE EXCEEDS OUR BUDGET, THEN. WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER SWITCHING DELIVERY METHODS AND WE WERE AT C M A. R.

AND PRICES ARE COMING IN WELL ABOVE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE ESTIMATORS HAVE COME IN AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH COSTS AND SOME OF THESE COSTS. YOU KNOW, THOSE PRICES ARE TYPICALLY FORECASTED WELL IN ADVANCE. SO NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE IN SOME AND NEITHER ESTIMATES SO WE'RE NOT 100% SURE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. BUT FOR US TO VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT FOR STAFF TO GO AND GO INTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SUGGESTED, AND THIS ISN'T A DELIVERY METHOD THAT WE USE HERE. I SEE A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS MORE MOSTLY IN THE NORTH THAT DO THIS. IT'S A AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SWITCH BUT I'M SIX SUGGESTING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IF WE IF WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING, CMDR THAT PERHAPS, UM AND WE KNOW WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE CMR METHODIST TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE. YOUR CSP IS, UM GENERALLY CHEAPER, BUT THERE ARE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF CONTROL. SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS WORKING WITH STAFF GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, GETTING SOME MORE CLARITY ON THESE NUMBERS AND THEN COMING BACK, UM, NEXT MONTH ON THIS ITEM, AND THEN ON THE ON THE NEXT ITEM, D THREE AS WELL,

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THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST IT. I DON'T WANT TO. LIKE I SAID, I AM TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT OR THROW A WRENCH. AND I SAID THAT TO STEPH, I KNOW THAT BUT IN A LOT OF WORK, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF I COME IN AND SAY VOTE, NO AND THEN THEN WE HAVE TO SWITCH THEN THAT'S A WHOLE NEW THING. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW A MONTH VERSUS IF WE HAD TO SWITCH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT METHOD. THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, SO I THINK MY HAPPY MEDIUM AND THEN IF WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON REALLY QUENCHING THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE I HEARD SOME THINGS ON A CALL ON THE WAY OVER. THAT DIDN'T SOUND RIGHT. AND NUMBERS WERE LOOKING, YOU KNOW. SO UM, THAT'S KIND OF MY RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA. MR HAMILTON'S YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA FOR TAKING THE LEAD WITH HAVING THAT MEETING OR MULTIPLE MEETINGS, UM, SHARE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS. JUST YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY QUICK OUT OF THE GATE, AND WE'RE AND WE'RE ALSO HAVING WE'RE ALREADY HAVING COST OVERRUNS AND SO WHETHER THAT'S DUE TO PROJECTIONS NOT BEING ACCURATE, OR OR COST OVERRUNS THIS EARLY IN THE PROCESS. UM NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING THIS ITEM, EITHER. SO I SUPPORT THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM. HMM. THANK YOU, MR MR HAMBLETON. MR MALONE. YES SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, DIRECTED TO YOU, MR VILLAINS. ON, UM THE IMPLICATIONS IF WE WERE TO DELAY A MONTH AND POSTPONE I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND PUT IN THIS PRIOR TO VOTING. DAN BAKER IS MAKING HIS WAY TO THE MICROPHONE. UM I DIDN'T EVEN SEE HIM OVER THERE. HE WAS HIDING SMALL GUY. YEAH. UH AND FAIRLY AMBITIOUS SCHEDULE FOR, UH, OUR FIRST EARLY PROJECTS ON THE BOND PROGRAM. PART OF THIS UH, UM, BOARD ITEM WAS GOING TO ALLOW OUR CONTRACTOR TO ORDER WHAT WE CALL LONG LEAD ITEMS. MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, STILL ELEVATORS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM POSTPONING A MONTH. WHILE IT MAY NOT SEEM MUCH NOW COULD HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF THEM RECEIVING THAT EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY NEED IT FOR CONSTRUCTION. IF THAT EQUIPMENT ISN'T HERE, THERE WHEN THEY NEED IT, UM, THAT CAN DELAY OTHER THINGS WHERE YOU KNOW OTHER DISCIPLINES WORKING AT OTHER TRADES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THEIR WORK. THEN TO GET THEM BACK TO THE CONSTRUCTION SITE COULD TAKE MORE THAN JUST 30 DAYS. IT MAY TAKE 6090 DAYS TO GET THEM BACK INTO THAT CYCLE. SO UM, WE COULD DIVE IN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW MUCH BUT YES, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR PROJECTS. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT, UM. AND THEN I'M I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE, SIR. SO MY APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE. AND I'M MAY WELL, NOT WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DEFER TO, MR WILSON.

SOME OF THIS, UM SO I'M RECALLING WHY WE CHOSE THE SEYMOUR ROUTE. AND I REMEMBER MRS FACILITY. TELLING US ABOUT YOU KNOW THE CMR AND THAT IT WAS HER RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE MORE COST SAVINGS OVER THE CSP. HMM BECAUSE OF HAVING THE SAME ARE WHO'S REVIEWING THE PLANS WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS VENDORS? AND I GUESS, UM. I'M JUST. I WASN'T IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR GARCIA TODAY AND YOU ALL SO I'M WONDERING. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION? BECAUSE OUR COMMITTEE WE HAD THE MEETING? UM AND SO THIS IS KIND OF NEWS TO ME RIGHT NOW. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE INFORMATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED BETWEEN YOU ALL THAT YOU COULD SHED LIGHT WITH US? THAT WOULD HELP GIVE US THE INSIGHT AND UNDERSTANDING ON THIS MOVE IN POSTPONING IF YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS, IF YOU IF YOU DIDN'T, UM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT DO YOU? IS THERE A SUDDEN? IS THERE A CHANGE THAT WE BELIEVE CSP WILL YIELD MORE SAVINGS THAN SEYMOUR NOW. UM. IN MY OPINION, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS A GUARANTEED SAVINGS. UM ONE OF THE OTHER HATS I WEAR, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE MY DAYTIME JOB, MY NIGHTTIME JOB IS A PROFESSOR OF ARCHITECTURE AT THE UNIVERSITY NEAR HERE. UM AND SO ONE OF THINGS WE TEACHES PROJECT DELIVERY. IT TURNS OUT THAT RECENT STUDIES SAY THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK

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OVERALL IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST ACTUALLY IS A MORE COST EFFECTIVE DELIVERY METHOD VERSUS CONSTRUCTION, COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL. UH, TYPICALLY, THAT IS BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK HAS FEWER CHANGE ORDERS. UH FEWER UNEXPECTED COST, WHEREAS THE CSP ALTHOUGH THAT INITIAL COST MAY BE LOWER UM, YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU GET MORE CHANGE ORDERS, AND THAT COST AT THE END OF THE PROJECT IS MORE. UM AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WHEN WE DID SEE A TREND TOWARDS THE COST. BEING OVER IS WE ACTUALLY ASKED SEYMOUR TO GO OUT AND BEARD, THE VARIOUS TRADE PACKAGES AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THESE PACKAGES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LARGER PACKAGES, LIKE ELECTRICAL, CONCRETE, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, ETCETERA. THOSE WERE BID ON THE STREET JUST AS IF IT WERE A CSP PROJECT. AND SO WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING AT, UH, COMPETITIVE NUMBERS, AND WE RECEIVED 3 TO 5 BIDS FOR EACH OF THOSE DISCIPLINES. SO WE KIND OF, UH, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF BOTH WORLDS IN TRYING TO YOU KNOW, WRESTLE THIS COST INTO THE BEST NUMBER THAT WE COULD GET MHM. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. UM SO WITH THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID. WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE PROJECT TO PROCEED. WE REALIZE THAT IT IS OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, BUT OUR ANALYSIS AND OUR INVESTIGATIONS SAY THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH PRICES IN THIS MARKET RIGHT NOW, AND SO WE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE PRICE FOR THE PROJECT. AND IT HAS BEEN WITHOUT SACRIFICING ANYTHING IN TERMS OF, UH, CURRICULUM PROGRAM FOR THE STUDENTS. ANY BENEFITS TO THE STUDENTS AND THE TEACHERS? UM WE THINK WE HAVE THE BEST PROJECT.

FOR THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE, OKAY? UM. AND THEN JUST FROM A RECAP FROM OUR MEETING, WE DID DISCUSS POTENTIAL COSTS MOVING FORWARD AND AS FAR AS INFLATION AND THAT IF WE DON'T PROCEED THAT THERE COULD BE LIKE LIKE COSTS COULD RISE CONTINUE TO RISE. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? YES THAT IS STILL A CONCERN OF OURS THAT ANY AS WE DELAY IN, THE MORE WE DELAY, THE MORE ESCALATION CAN MAKE MATTERS WORSE. OKAY SO THEN THIS IS THE NEXT QUESTION. I HAVE TO THE TO THE BOARDING AND TO YOU BECAUSE YOU JUST MENTIONED ONE THING AND THAT SACRIFICING RIGHT. SO WHETHER WE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THIS IS THE CURRENT SCOPE OF WORK. CORRECT? YES. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAYBE SACRIFICE OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING? AND I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S MY QUESTION TO, UM, THE BOARD IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER IS AN END TO YOU ALL. ARE THERE CHANGES OR SACRIFICES WE COULD MAKE THAT COULD CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND REDUCE COST. BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, SIR, IS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT, UM SEYMOUR. IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR TO YIELD THE GREATEST COST SAVINGS OVER THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TOLD PREVIOUSLY, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ENSURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. BUT THE ONLY VARIABLE I SEE RIGHT NOW. IS IF THERE WERE A SACRIFICE OR CHANGE IN THE SCOPE OF PROJECT THAT WOULD THEN CREATE SOME REDUCTION IN COST. THAT'S THAT'S TRUE IN MY OPINION, IN ORDER TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT COST REDUCTION IN THE PROJECT. I BELIEVE WE'RE LOOKING AT LOSING CLASSROOMS OR AMENITIES IN THE SCHOOL OR CAPACITY IN THE SCHOOL, AND SO WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT. UM BECAUSE WE THERE'S A NEED OUR STUDENT CAPACITY. YES, SIR.

CURRICULUM SO THEN I THINK I WOULD DEFER AND JUST ASK THE BOARD IF THEY'D PLEASE PROVIDE INPUT ON WHERE THEY STAND ON MAKING BECAUSE I'M PREPARED TO VOTE, HOWEVER, IF, UM THE BOARD WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER IF THAT IS IT, MAKING SACRIFICES OR CHANGING THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. THEN I THINK IT COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE THINGS. HOWEVER WITH TODAY'S CONSIDERATIONS AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETING. AND THIS IS AGAIN JUST FOR THE BOARD. WHEN I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I'M PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD RIGHT NOW. HOWEVER.

IF WE ARE WILLING COLLECTIVELY TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS THAT'S DIFFERENT. AND IF SO, WHAT? WHAT

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MODIFICATIONS AND I DON'T BELIEVE CAPACITY IS ONE OF THEM OR CLASSROOMS IS ONE OF THEM BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY DETERMINED THE SCOPE. MAYBE AMENITIES LIKE ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS A TREE FINE ON IT ON THE TREE WITHIN THE SCHOOL, BUT, UM. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. AND IF OTHERS COULD PLEASE PROVIDE INPUT? I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL OF THAT. NO PROBLEM. MY PLEASURE. HMM. THANK YOU, MISS MALONE, MS HANAN. UM.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH, UM COSTS RISING COSTS, BUT I JUST WANT I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THE BOARD AND MYSELF. OUR PROJECTION IS TO OPEN THE NEW BRIAR GATE. BY FALL OF 2025 AM I THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT. FALL OF 2025. YOU KNOW IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THE CALENDAR WE JUST APPROVED, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, TEACHERS COME BACK ON JULY, 29TH. AND THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL VERY FAR OFF AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF OTHER PROJECTS, AND SO. I HATE TO HOLD UP PROGRESS. FOR A COMMUNITY WHO . UM, WAS VERY I THOUGHT VERY, UM, UNDERSTANDING TO WORK WITH WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATION. AND SO I HATE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

UM SO TO SPEAK FOR THOSE STUDENTS, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS I DON'T WANT TO SCHOOL OPENING IN DECEMBER. OF 2025. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT FUN FOR THE TEACHERS. THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO CLASSROOMS, STARTING ONE PLACE, MOVING ANOTHER PLACE THE SAME WITH PARENTS TRANSPORTATION, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SOME COSTS. UM I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN. WE CAN'T SIT FROM THE DIOCESE AND SAY WE CAN CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE WORK PER SE TO TRY TO DO COST REDUCTIONS. BUT I I'M JUST HERE TO SAY. I'M WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S COME TO ME. UM, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT SOME OF OUR OTHER BOND PROJECTS, BUT. FOR THIS AND THIS COMMUNITY. I WANT THIS PROJECT. TO BE TIMELY AND TO OPEN AND WELCOME THOSE KIDS IN THE DOOR. WHEN WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HANNAN, MISS JONES. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT DAY. SO I'M GONNA ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE TAXPAYERS BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR CREDIT CARD, DRASTIC FOR OKAY? AND AT SOME POINT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THEM FOR SOME MORE MONEY. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS. WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE OVER BUDGET? OKAY? THE TEAM FIRST HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUDGET. UH IN MID FALL EARLY FALL OF 23. AT THAT TIME THEY WERE WORKING FROM PARTIAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND ESTIMATES. AH TO BE SURE THAT THERE REALLY WAS A PROBLEM OR CONCERNED, THEY ASKED THE ARCHITECT ENGINEERING TEAM TO GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE DOCUMENT. SO WE HAD 100% DOCUMENTS AND THEN THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE ISSUED OUT ON THE STREETS TO THE VARIOUS TRADE SUBCONTRACTORS, MAJOR SUBCONTRACTORS TO GET ACTUAL CAUSE, UH, NUMBERS DID COME DOWN MORE THAN WHAT THE ESTIMATES WERE, BUT THEY STILL WERE OVER. OUR ORIGINAL ESTABLISHED BUDGET. AND SO THOSE NUMBERS, BUT ONCE WE HAD THOSE NUMBERS WE FELT OKAY. WE DO KNOW WHERE WHERE WE ARE. AND, UM THE CONCERN IS REAL. I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT, SO THEY WEREN'T THERE WEREN'T ANY MARKET PROJECTIONS. AT ALL. WERE THERE.

ANY MARKET PROJECTIONS ABOUT THE COST. UNFORTUNATE MISS JONES. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. BECAUSE UM, IT WAS ALL BEFORE MY TIME. I KNOW. IN THE BEGINNING, THERE WERE PROJECTIONS DONE, AND PROBABLY SOME CHECKS ALONG THE WAY. UM BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. ABSOLUTELY I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU. OKAY THERE WAS A BUDGET THAT WAS CREATED BY BY DESIGNING CONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THE BOND 2023 PLANNING, RIGHT RIGHT EARLY IN 2023. SO THERE WEREN'T ANY MARKET PROJECTIONS, SAYING THAT COUNTING IN FOR INFLATION INCREASE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. WAS THAT AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THE OTHER DAY WHENEVER WE'RE WORKING WITH P B K ON THE PROJECTIONS,

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THERE WERE AMOUNTS THAT THEY PUT IN FOR INFLATION EACH YEAR. OKAY SO THEY DID PUT IN PERCENTAGES.

I THINK IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN OR 8% EACH YEAR, SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SO BESIDES THESE TWO OTHER PROJECTS, THESE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW ARE THERE ANY AND LET'S PUT THIS ON RECORD. ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN FORESEE? THAT MAY BE OVER BUDGET THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED OR HAVEN'T COME BEFORE US YET? OH, THE ANSWER IS YES. THERE ARE SOME THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT THEY ARE EARLY IN THE PROCESS, SO WE REALLY DO WANT TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. BUT YEAH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. OKAY OKAY, SO I'M WITH TRUSTY GARCIA AND DELAYING THIS AND LOOKING INTO THIS FURTHER. BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THIS. WE'RE AT THE FRONT END OF IT. AND I'M AFRAID THAT ONCE WE GET THROUGH ALL THE BOND PROJECTS, THE BACK END OF IT. WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING MORE MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING TAXPAYERS FOR MORE MONEY.

SO BEFORE WE JUST JUMP IN AND SAY, OH, WE GOTTA BUILD SCHOOLS. WE GOT TO DO THIS. WE GOT TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK. EVALUATE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SPENDING WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF TAXPAYERS IT HAS REGARDING IN REGARDS TO AH, THESE BOND PROJECTS SO I HAVE A DEEP CONCERN. I SAID I WAS GONNA WAIT TILL MAY TO SHUT UP THE MOUTH, BUT IT'S OUT THERE NOW.

SO THANK YOU, MISS JONES. DR GILLIAM. YEAH MR. BASSETT CAN YOU TELL ME ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THIS WHOLE THING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THIS MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE TO. THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT COSTS ARE GOING TO BE OVER ON PROJECTS. IS THAT SOMETHING? I UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT THAT WILL WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT. WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? I DO THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER PROJECTS. WE DID SEND OUT TO THE BOARD. WHAT A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WE GAVE THE BOC IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. WHAT SOME OF THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE. WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE ESTIMATES YET, OKAY? AND SO YOU KNOW, THE LIKELY TO THEM COMING IN LOW ISN'T NECESSARILY GREAT. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS KIND OF THE PERFECT STORM OF THINGS THAT HAVE CAUSED SIGNIFICANT OVERRUNS, AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH WHAT MANY DISTRICTS ARE DEALING WITH, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WHATEVER WE ARE OVER IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN OTHER DISTRICTS. BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN OTHER DISTRICTS HAVING TO GO TO THE VOTERS TWICE, YOU KNOW, FOR ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO THINK THROUGH AND WHAT DAN WAS EXPLAINING TO THE GROUP THE OTHER DAY TO THE BOC, AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME WITH THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS, YOU KNOW THE VALUE ENGINEERING THAT SHE CAN DO TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SCOPE ON SOME PROJECTS. WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT, OKAY, ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN BE POSTPONED, YOU KNOW PROJECTS JUST OUTRIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, UM WE HAVE PASSED, SO WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT HARVARD SCREEN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WOULD WHEN WOULD WE NEED THAT SCORE? THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED. WHAT HAPPENS WITH VOUCHERS PASS? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, IN THIS SITUATION, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE DO KNOW THAT WE NEED THESE. THESE TWO SCORES WE'VE CERTAINLY MADE, YOU KNOW, FIRM FIRM COMMITMENTS FOR THOSE WE'VE MOVED KIDS BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. WE DO THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS TO BRING THE NUMBERS DOWN. WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE ENOUGH. WE JUST WE JUST DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.

POSSIBLE IF WE WAIT AGAIN, COULD IT ACTUALLY GO UP MORE? THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT. OKAY SO I AM MS HANAN. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE DATES AS FAR AS THAT SCHOOL OPENING. AH BECAUSE I KNOW IF WE GO BACK TO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE'S ON BOARD. I CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT WHEN WE GO BACK TO GOING TO THE SCHOOLS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND HOW THIS SCHOOL IF WE WILL DO THIS, THIS WILL HAPPEN AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS TIME. I THINK THAT IS PERTINENT INFORMATION. I THINK THAT IS THAT IS A IN MY MIND, AND I'LL SAY FOR ME THAT WAS A PROMISE THAT WE MADE TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT SHOULD YOU FOLLOW US AND SHOULD YOU? TRUST US. THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING ON. ALSO BECAUSE THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M HEARING. YES MA'AM, THE COMMUNITY AND KNOWING HOW LONG WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BLUE RIDGE WASN'T THAT 50 YEARS. AND. THAT WAS HUGE. THAT WAS A LOT AND GOING INTO THOSE SCHOOLS. AND SHARING WITH PARENTS, AND THEN WE COME NOW

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AND WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT WHAT AND I UNDERSTAND MONEY I DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE SHARE AND WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR GILLIAM. MR GARCIA. SO I MEAN, THE REASON WHY THIS ALL CAME ABOUT WAS OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT 16% 20% OVER BUDGET OFF SCHOOLS AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION UPDATES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY UPDATES, BUT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS DON'T SEEM TO BE OVER BUDGET, IT ONLY SEEMS TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'VE GONE BETWEEN CMDR. CSP UM WE'RE DOING CSP FOR IS IT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL? THAT IS CORRECT. YES UM AND THEN CM ER FOR CLEMENS. AND I KNOW THAT WE DID SEEM A ARE FOR, UM, CRAWFORD, CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW. I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. WE KNOW WHERE WE CAME IN ON CRAWFORD WAS WAS THAT SCHOOL COMPLETED OVER BUDGET OR WERE THE SCHOOL COME UNDER BUDGET? IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT RIGHT RIGHT OFF TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AND MY STANDARD. YEAH I SO WE KNEW IN SEPTEMBER OCTOBER THAT WE WERE OVER BUDGET AND I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I AM A PROJECT MANAGER. MY TRADE SO I WAS. CONCERNED THAT WHEN WE NOTICED THIS THIS COME IN, AND YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS AN OPTION OPPORTUNITY TO SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHODS OR SWITCH TO YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRICES WERE COMING IN HIGH, BUT THEN THAT THAT TELLS ME WELL, THERE'S A COST OVERRUN. THERE'S A PROJECTION. THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH HOW WE PROJECTED THIS PROJECT. UM YOU KNOW THE COST WITH THE LEAD TIMES WITH THEY'RE IN COVID WEREN'T REALLY THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE. THEY'RE PROBABLY WORSE. YOU KNOW? SO AND I STILL HEAR THAT WE HAVE LONG LEAD TIMES LONG LEAD TIMES. AND SO WE'VE HAD IN MY HEAD PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO THE FORECAST THIS PROJECT THIS AND IF WE'RE SAYING I KNOW THAT WE PROMISED THE COMMUNITY OPEN A SCHOOL ON A CERTAIN TIME, BUT WE ALSO PROMISED THE COMMUNITY, UM WITH BEING VERY MINDFUL OF THE MONEY, AND I KNOW THAT THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THOSE COSTS BACK TO A PLACE TO WHERE WE'RE NOT. 20% OVER BUDGET . WE'RE PROBABLY MORE THAN 11% AND THEN THEIR SOCIAL THING, BUT THEN I WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE SO EARLY IN THE IN THE PROJECT.

WHAT? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? PHASE TWO PHASE THREE. YOU KNOW, FURTHER DOWN, UM AND I ALSO LOOK FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS, YOU KNOW. UM AND HOLDING THOSE FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE, MAKING SURE THAT WHILE WE MISSED THIS OR WE DIDN'T PROJECT THIS OR AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DID OR DIDN'T SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAUSE IF WE VOTE IF I VOTE NO ON THIS ITEM THEN WE FORCED THE DISTRICT TO GO IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION AS FAR AS CHANGING A DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHOD THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOUR LEAD TIMES OUT MUCH FURTHER THAN JUST A MONTH OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WILL PROBABLY PUT YOU OUT SEVEN OR EIGHT. LIKE WE JUST SAID ON THE CAR THERE 99 MONTHS, POTENTIALLY UM AND SO. WHAT WHAT? I'M WHAT I'M SAYING. AND WHEN I WHEN I HEARD ON A SEPARATE CALL THAT SOME OF THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T LOOK RIGHT. THAT WAS KIND OF A RED FLAG FOR ME. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY LEAVE. POSTPONE IT. I MEAN, IF NOT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S LET'S YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS SPECIAL SPECIAL CALL MEDIUM. I'M OFF. I'M OFF FOR IT, BUT BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT GETTING THESE THESE BUILDINGS BUILT AND THESE THESE THINGS UP, UM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND WELL, I DO UNDERSTAND LEAD TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO AND IF AND IF IT ENDS UPLL, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE NUMBERS. ACTUALLY, THAT IS WHAT YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT WHEN I HEAR THINGS LIKE, WELL, THIS THIS DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING IS NOT ADDING UP THEN THAT THAT DOES CONCERN ME. SO UM, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES ADD UP BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. UM, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT 100% SURE, THEN THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST JUST DOT ALL THE I'S CROSS ALL THE T S BEFORE AND THAT'S JUST KINDA KINDA WORRY.

THINK I'M I'VE LANDED NOW BETWEEN NOW AND THIS MORNING WHEN WE HAD OUR CALL, MR. GARCIA, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, THE NUMBER HERE. BRIAN FOUND IT FOR ME. FOR CRAWFORD HIGH SCHOOL ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 175.5 MILLION. OUR COMMITMENTS ARE 100 AND 71.7. SO THAT WAS COMING IN.

AND YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU 33 MILLION PLUS BELOW BUDGET FOR THAT ONE, AND WE SPENT THE DAY 265 MILLION. WE WILL FINISH THAT ONE WITHIN THE WITHIN THAT BUDGET, YOU KNOW

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WITHIN THAT 171 THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED. JUST YOU KNOW JUST WHY I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA, MISS HANNAH. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, MR GARCIA, WHEN YOU BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE. I THINK NONE OF US WERE PRIVY TO THE PHONE CALL THAT YOU HAVE. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOMEONE WAS SAYING THE NUMBERS DON'T LOOK RIGHT? AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO NAME BUT WAS THIS STAFF OR WAS THIS OUTSIDE CONSULTATION? IT WAS INTERNAL THIS MORNING. OKAY THAT WILL CONSIDER CHANGING DELIVERY METHODS. OKAY SO AND THEN MY QUESTION TO STAFF IS WITH MR GARCIA'S REQUEST I STAND BY COMMITTING TO THE BRIAR GATE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVES, UM THE SCHOOL AND IT DESERVES IT AND IN A TIMELY WAY, BUT CHANGING THE DELIVERY METHOD. THAT MR GARCIA IS ASKING DOES THAT AT ALL IMPACT A SINGLE VENDOR THAT'S ON THIS PAGE. IF WE CHANGE THE DELIVERY METHOD. DOES IT IMPACT ANYONE THAT I SEE AS A VENDOR ON THIS PAGE IN THE PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BOARD ITEM. YES YES, IT DOES. IT WILL IMPACT THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT.

UM AND ALSO RESPECTFULLY REMIND THE BOARD THAT WE DID ALREADY APPROVED GMP ONE FOR THAT CONTRACTOR FOR THAT VENDOR, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY PROCEEDED WITH DEMOLITION AND STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECTS, AND THEY'VE ALSO DONE ORDERING LONG LEAD ITEMS. OKAY, AND SO WHAT? I WANT TO, UM AND I'M NOT A PROJECT MANAGER. ALTHOUGH I HAVE MANAGED PROJECTS, UM I WANT TO AS AS WE ARE MOVING INTO MORE AND MORE CONSTRUCTION, AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE CONSTRUCTION. I'VE HEARD OF CONSTRUCTION COMING IN THE MED CENTER AND AS WE'RE VYING AND COMPETING FOR CONSTRUCTION. PEOPLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION MARKET. I WOULD SURE HATE TO SORT OF SAY OH, I'M SORRY. THIS CONTRACT IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO UM AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IF WE CHANGE THE METHOD, WE WILL ALSO BE CUTTING OUT SOME VENDOR. PERHAPS POSSIBLY THAT'S THAT'S LISTED ON THE SHEET. DEFINITELY BE. DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, EITHER. UM I THINK THE TIME TO GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW IS BEFORE A PROJECT STARTS. UM NOT. HMM NOT THIS FAR INTO SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND THAT AND TO BE CLEAR. I SUGGESTED THAT BUT THEN WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY OR SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER WAS WHEN WE FIRST REALIZED THAT THE TIME TO HAVE SWITCHED WOULD HAVE BEEN THEN I THINK PROBABLY THE TIME TO SWITCH NOW IS I THINK WE'RE WAY WAY PAST THAT PART. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING NOW, IS IT THAT WHEN WE'RE SITTING I WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. IT IS. BEFORE I VOTE ON THIS ITEM WAS THEIR SCOPE CREEP. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE COSTS INFLATED LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER LOOK INTO COST ANALYSIS. UM AND. TO BE CLEAR. VALIDATE WHAT? WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE ACTUAL COST THAT WE'RE SEEING. AND BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WHERE I HAD HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF UNCERTAINTY ON SOME SOME ITEMS. AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE SWITCHED DELIVERY METHODS BECAUSE, LIKE I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY WAY PAST THAT AT THAT POINT THAT THE TIME TO HAVE DONE THAT WAS YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER OCTOBER AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW . YOU KNOW, FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING ON WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE HIP AND THE MINDS OF OUR PROJECT MANAGERS AT THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS, GOSH, WE'RE SEEING PERCENT OR WHATEVER. WE'VE GOT TO DO THESE THINGS. I'M KINDA OF THE OPINION THAT, UM THAT. YOU DELIVER BAD NEWS, YOU KNOW? FIRST INSTEAD OF SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, AND I THINK THAT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S SOME SOME SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I THINK WE'VE HAD, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HOW WE CAN MOVE PAST THAT. AND REALLY DIG INTO. YOU KNOW WHY WE GOT TO THIS THIS PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH, AND IF IT TURNS OUT WELL, THAT'S THAT'S SO THAT IS WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING THEM. BUT I'M OKAY WITH WITH WITH MOVING FORWARD AND IF WE PUSH IT LIKE I SAID, IF WE HAVE TO, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET ALL THIS BEFORE, YOU KNOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE CAN GET IT DONE BEFORE THE, UM FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING THAT I'M ALL I'M ALL FOR VOTING TO PROCEED AS FAR AS PLANNED, AND, YOU KNOW, WE AND WE'VE WASTED.

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YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF WEEKS, POSSIBLY PUSH THE PROJECT BACK A FEW MONTHS, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THIS. THESE PROJECTS FOR US UNDERSTAND THAT UM, WELL, WE BETTER BE ON OUR GAME, BECAUSE IF WE'RE PROJECTING THESE PROJECTS, AND THEN IT'S NOT COMING IN WHAT WE'RE SAYING, AND WE'VE HAD AMPLE TIME TO GO THROUGH AND DO ALL THESE ANALYSIS AND THEN YOU TURN UP AND THEN NOW WE'RE IN A YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S AN ESTIMATE AND 15 TO 20% OVER BUDGET AND I'M SEEING OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT THEY'RE NOT COMING IN OVER BUDGET. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT SUGGESTING AT THIS POINT THAT WE SWITCH DELIVERY METHODS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALREADY PAST THAT POINT, BUT I WANT TO JUST MAKE DARN SURE THAT UM THE STORY IS CLEAR BETWEEN THE PROJECT MANAGERS BETWEEN ALL THE ESTIMATORS COST. AND SCOPE CREEP AND ALL OF THESE THINGS LIKE, WHERE WAS THE SORT OF THE WHERE DID THIS SORT OF THE WORD OF THE BOTTOM FALL OUT, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN DIGGING INTO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MAKES SENSE. TRUST ME. I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE WAS NO SCOPE CREEP ON THESE PROJECTS. UM AS YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THE D TWO ND THREE R PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BEFORE AND THE PROJECTS THAT USE THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU NOW ARE SIMILAR TO THE NEIL IN FERGUSON AND THE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT THEY WERE BASED ON MHM. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA. UM MISS MOLLOY. I SAW YOUR NAME. DID YOU OKAY? MR MALONE? YES ABSOLUTELY ALRIGHT, COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS SINCE WE MENTIONED THIS SEPTEMBER OCTOBER, YOU KNOW THE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND . VERY CLEARLY. SEPTEMBER OCTOBER FROM WHAT I WAS UNDERSTANDING WAS WHEN THERE WAS THE THOUGHT OR THE PERCEPTION THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM INCREASES BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED. IS THAT RIGHT ? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. THAT WAS PRIOR. BUT YES, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND THEN AFTER THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE THOUGHT YOU WANTED. THE EVIDENCE IS THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD. SO MY QUESTION IS THAT I DIDN'T HEAR EARLIER WAS THE WIN ON THAT. SO IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, SIR, I HEARD THAT YOU HAD THE SEYMOUR THEN GO OUT TO MARKET LIKE A CSP. WHETHER IT WAS FOR PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ETCETERA FOR VARIOUS PACKAGES CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH US? BECAUSE THIS I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO, UM AND IF I MISS HER IF I DIDN'T HEAR IT, MY APOLOGIES, BUT CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH US WHEN YOU GUYS WENT OUT TO OR WIN? THE CMR WENT OUT TO MARKET AND WHEN THEY RECEIVED ALL OF THE DATA BACK THAT THEN GAVE YOU WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. THE EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORTED THAT YOUR INCLINATION OR YOUR HYPOTHESIS WAS CORRECT. IF YOU DON'T MIND. I'M GONNA LOOK OVER AT ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CMR. UM ABOUT WHEN DID WE BECAUSE THIS WAS ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY PRIOR TO MY TIME, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THAT ANSWER, BUT WHEN DID WE GO OUT ON THE STREET WITH THE PACKAGES? ON THE STREET TO MR BEN. BASICALLY OFF. THE MARKET. MM HMM. A MONTH AGO. THE NUMBER OF SCOPING THEM BACK. GOING THROUGH A VALUE POSITIVE. HMM OKAY. THE MISSION BEEN PROJECT IS JUST SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THE BRIAR GATES. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN ACTUALLY OUT ON THE STREET. THE MARKET FOR THAT. MM HMM. SO BY THE END OF NOVEMBER AND WE WERE IN KIND OF A DISHEVELED STATE OURSELVES AT THAT POINT, SO NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT DIDN'T COME TO US. RIGHT THEN I, BUT THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT, SIR. UM AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL. UM OKAY, SO THAT THAT'S NOW LIKE MAKING MORE SENSE TO THE SEQUENCE IN TIME EVENT EVENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT, UM. A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. THIS IS GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE , SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HIT THAT MAXIMUM THRESHOLD, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO YOU COULD FIND CREATIVE WAYS. OR YOU COULD GET BID PACKAGES BACK OR IS EVERYTHING DONE? THAT COME IN UNDER THAT. NO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER GIVES US A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. THEY THEN IF WE APPROVE THAT AND SIGN THEM UP FOR THAT THEY DIDN'T GO OUT AND I CALL IT BY THE ACTUAL PROJECT. UH AS THEY GO ALONG AND EXECUTE THE WORK IF THERE ARE SAVINGS, THEN AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, THERE'S A RECONCILIATION. SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT.

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UH TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF SOME SAVINGS AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, AND SOME FUNDS RETURN BACK TO THE DISTRICT AND WE CAN AUDIT GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE. SORRY AND WE CAN AUDIT THOSE RECORDS, RIGHT? WE HAVE FULL ACCESS AND TRANSPARENCY IN THAT PROCESS. THAT'S A NATURAL PART OF THE SEYMOUR PROCESSES THAT RECONCILIATION AT THE END AND GOING THROUGH AND. MAKING SURE WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE DOLLARS AND WHAT WAS SPENT WAS WHAT WAS SAID. OKAY ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THAT THAT PROCESS. YES, SIR. AND WITH THE CSP, WE CAN'T DO THAT. NO, CSP IS FIXED.

YEAH LOCKED IN. OKAY UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING ON THE CSP AND I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT AS I'M YOU KNOW, RECALLING INFORMATION A CSP. DO WE HAVE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD BEFORE, AS WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL STAFF TO MANAGE A CSP PROCESS IN COMPARISON TO THE SEAM, OR DO WE HAVE THE STEAD THE STAFF IF WE WERE TO SWITCH RIGHT NOW TO A CSP, I'M I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED MORE STAFF FOR CSP VERSUS SEYMOUR. UM WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE STAFF, ESPECIALLY INTERNAL FOR BEN STAFF JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME OF THE BOND PROGRAM AND HOW FAST AND AGGRESSIVE WE'RE BEING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE. UM BUT , UM, I WOULD SAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF THE SAME MANPOWER'S WAS REQUIRED FOR CSP OR SEYMOUR, OKAY? AND THEN ONE OTHER THING WE TOUCHED ON WHICH MS HANAN, UM, MENTIONED EARLIER AND WE DISCUSSED IN OUR MEETING WAS JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON IN OUR REGION. AND ITS CONSIDERABLE AND THE LIMITED RESOURCES. OKAY WITH THIS SEYMOUR WITH EITHER ONE OF THEM. REALLY? UM ARE THERE POSSIBILITIES AND I KNOW WE JUST BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON IT. BUT OF POSSIBLY BUYING GOODS OUTSIDE OF THIS REGION AND POTENTIALLY TRANSPORTING HIM IN AND REDUCING COSTS THAT WAY. OR ARE WE THAT HAS NOT BEEN MY EXPERIENCE OF OUR THAT BEING SUCCESSFUL, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPOKE WITH TRUSTY GARCIA ABOUT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A VENDOR COME FROM OUTSIDE. THE REGION. THEY DON'T GET FAVORABLE PRICING FROM THE LOCAL SUB AND SUPPLIERS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A KNOWN ENTITY, SOMEONE YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOMEONE YOU ANTICIPATE WORKING WITH MORE IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM BETTER PRICING IN HOPES OF REPEAT WORK. IF YOU'RE A NEW PERSON COMING IN, FOLKS TEND TO PUT IN I CALL IT THE FRUSTRATION AND UNKNOWN FACTOR IN THEIR PRICING. THEY'RE NOT SURE WHO YOU ARE, HOW YOU PAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO SO THEY TRY TO COVER THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF THEIR COSTS AND EXPENSES. MHM. OKAY, AND THEN. I'M I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION HERE, BUT, UM. ASSUMING MAYBE ALL SPOKE AND ANYONE SHARE WITH WHATEVER THE GAPS AND THE NUMBERS OR NUMBERS NOT ADDING UP WHAT THAT MEANS. I AM AND HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO TRUSTEE GARCIA. WE FROM OUR STANDPOINT, THE NUMBERS DO ADD UP AND WE HAVE VERY PRECISE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE PLAN TO SPEND. UH, WE HAVE. PAGES OF NUMBERS. UNFORTUNATELY PAGES AND PAGES OF IT. UM BUT, UM OKAY, I GUESS. UM UH, I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO OPEN UP THAT SCHOOL ON TIME. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS POSSIBLE AND, UM, FALL OF 2025. UM MR GARCIA, CAN YOU SHARE WHAT? WHAT DOESN'T ADD UP? WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? BECAUSE I I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE'S SO HERE'S WHAT'S GOING THROUGH MY HEAD. I'M THINKING, OK, YOU MENTIONED TWO WEEKS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THE WILLING TO COME FROM THE WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. AND YOU MENTIONED SPECIAL SESSION. I'M FULLY OPEN TO THAT IDEA. AND IF THERE REALLY ARE THINGS WHERE THE NUMBERS AREN'T ADDING UP SORRY, SIR. EXCUSE ME, BUT I THINK LIKE TWO WEEKS, FINE. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS. LIKE A COMPROMISE. AND IF THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN GET OUR FULL BOARD ENGAGED IN AND SUPPORTING THIS PROCESS AND HAVING UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE BEHIND IT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW ALL SEVEN OF US BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN I CAN DO THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I GUESS, MR GARCIA, MY STRUGGLE IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THAT'S NOT ADDING UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT. SO IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH YOUR LIKE IF YOU CAN GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT, THEN I DON'T MIND THAT IN HIS AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'D

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ASK THE BOARD IS ARE WE WILLING TO DO A, UH, SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE PSI MARS AND IF THAT'S THE CASE AGAIN, COLLABORATION, COOPERATION, I'M ALL ABOUT IT. THIS IS SO THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT I WOULD WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, UM I PROPOSE THAT WE THAT THEY'RE ALL I CAN PROVE THIS ITEM. AS IS WHAT WHAT I WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WHAT? ACTUALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO NOW, FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC TO THAT'S SOME CLARITY. I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME THINGS, BUT, UM CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A AN IDEA ON HOW THE DISTRICT PLANS TO, UM GET IN FRONT OF THIS TO FIX THESE CURRENT ISSUES WITH WITH BEING OVER BUDS ON THESE TWO SCHOOLS. ANOTHER. WE'VE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT. CUTTING SOME COULD YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC? JUST SO THAT SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND WHAT'S THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD? UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS CAN THE DISTRICT CAN STAFF PRESENT OVER BUDGET ITEMS TO THE BOARD AS SOON AS THE CMR GETS THEM AND MAKES THEM AWARE TO THE DISTRICT SO THAT THE BOARD KNOWS THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, UH, YOU GET AHEAD OF IT, AND THEN UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE I SAID, I'M TRYING TO COMPROMISE. I DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE. NO AND I KNEW THAT'S GONNA MESS YOU UP PRETTY BAD, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SEE ABOUT UM YEAH , YOU KNOW, THERE THERE IS A THERE IS A YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY COMPONENT TO THE TO THE TO THE PMS AND I HEARD SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND I CAN'T REALLY SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE WORKERS THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME. SO I THAT UNCERTAINTY THERE'S A PROJECT MANAGER MAKES ME NERVOUS, TOO.

SO WELL, LET'S BE SURE. AND IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE SURE THAT'S ONE THING. SO BUT BUT CAN YOU ELABORATE? A LITTLE BIT MORE ON? YOU KNOW WHAT ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. IT WAS COMING IN OVER 20, AND THEY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. YOU GOT IT DOWN TO CLOSER TO PROBABLY 10. WE'RE STILL 1011 OVER. CAN YOU SAY WHAT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WERE? TO GET US DOWN TO 10 AND THEN WHAT? MOVING FORWARD OR SOME UP SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO BRING THAT THAT, UH, THAT EVEN FURTHER DOWN. HMM HMM. WELL FOR INSTANCE, IN ITEM THREE, WE LOOKED AT A DIFFERENT FOUNDATIONS SYSTEM FOR THE BUILDING. WHICH ACTUALLY, THAT IN ITSELF, I THINK I WAS IN THE RANGE OF AN 800. A MILLION TO YOU KNOW, SAVINGS TO THE PROJECT . IT IS STILL ONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY ENGINEERS ARE GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERS, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, BUT IT PRODUCED A SAVINGS. UH THERE WAS CHANGES IN SOME OF THE FINISHES. UM IN THE MODEL, THE PROTOTYPE THAT THE MISSION BEING IS BASED ON THE COLUMNS HAVE ALUMINUM WRAPPING AROUND ALUMINUM METAL COVERS AROUND THE COLUMNS. IN THIS CASE, WE ARE GOING WITH DRYWALL COVERS AROUND THE COLUMNS THERE STILL WILL BE, YOU KNOW, VERY AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BUT, UM IT PRODUCED A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. WE DIDN'T SHORT ANY OF THE CLASSROOMS ANY OF THE FUNCTIONAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE LOOKED AT IF IT DIDN'T BENEFIT THE STUDENTS AND DIDN'T BENEFIT THE TEACHERS. IT HAD TO GO. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE INSTRUCTIONS. I GAVE THE TEAM AND ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT AH, AND SO THERE, UM, YOU ASKED ABOUT OUR PROJECT MANAGERS ARE PROJECT MANAGERS IDENTIFIED OVER 20 DIFFERENT ITEMS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. THEY ALL SAT DOWN THAT WERE SAVINGS THERE PRODUCED OVER 4.5 MILLION. I THINK IT WAS YET RIGHT AT $4.5 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS FROM PREVIOUS TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. UM GOING FORWARD. THEY WILL STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS. THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AS THEY BUY OUT THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS AND SIGN THE CONTRACT WITH THE SUBS. IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET, YOU KNOW ANY SAVINGS THERE, THEY WILL DO THAT AND PASS THAT ALONG. UM AND WE WILL LOOK AT AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. ARE THERE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES? YOU KNOW TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO QUITE HAVE IT THAT WAY. WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ONE OF THE OTHER REALIZED SAVINGS WAS DUE TO DETENTION. THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAD UNDERGROUND DETENTION DETENTION WAS UNDER THE UNDER THE SCHOOL. IT WAS. THERE'S A PREMIUM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM , SO WE WENT WITH TRADITIONAL DETENTION AND THAT SAVED THEM OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING AS WELL RELATED TO THE BUDGET, SO I HAVE HEARD THE BOARD MENTIONED CONCERNED WITH GOING OVER BUDGET. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE VOTERS HAVE

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AUTHORIZED UP TO $1.26 BILLION IN PROJECTS. WE CANNOT EXCEED THAT NUMBER, EITHER BY BOARD ACTION OR BY STAFF ACTION. AND SO MR BASSETT ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER IF WE GET TO A CASE WHERE START PROJECTS START EXCEEDING BUDGETS WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AND THE DECISION WITH BOARD INPUT OF WHAT PROJECTS WE EITHER DELAY OR CANCEL, AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER. ALTHOUGH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COST OVERRUNS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE , WE CANNOT EXCEED 1.26 BILLION, AND SO AS YOU TAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM. AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE ENTIRE PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE PROMISED THE PUBLIC WITHIN THAT $1.26 BILLION NUMBER, SO I THINK THAT'S KEY TO REMEMBER AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR DELIBERATIONS. THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA. SO I MEAN, THIS BEING A WHILE THE DISCUSSION, SO I'M GOING TO ASK, UM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW. UM I'M SORRY, BUT I WOULD ASK, MAYBE WE CAN STOP ASKING OR MAKING COMMENTS. BUT IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING NEW YOU WANTED TO MENTION I'M GOING TO CLEAR THIS KILL IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING NEW, UM, PEACE REQUESTED TO SPEAK. OKAY? DR GILLIAM. I HAVE ONE MINUTE. FIRST OF ALL, CAN I GET YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS DAN BANKHEAD. DAN THANK IT. OKAY. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.

UH, VERY QUICKLY, MR GARCIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TODAY, AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING.

YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LOT TODAY AND, UH, I'M JUST PROUD OF THE BOARD AND HOW WE CAME RIGHT HERE TO JUST HOW WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS. AND I JUST, UM I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. UM WE'LL SEE YOU IN A MINUTE. BUT THANK YOU, SIR. FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ALSO EVERYONE. MR BASSETT. FOR JUST LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I FELT THAT EVERYTHING WAS UP AND UP, AND I APPRECIATE IT. AND AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA. HMM. THANK YOU, DR GILLIAM, MISS HANNAH. YES, AND I WANT TO ALSO THANK MR GARCIA, BECAUSE I APPRECIATE HIM. TALKING IT OUT RIGHT AND EXPLAINING IT TO THE REST OF US. BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE WHAT I THINK I HEAR IS HIS RECONSIDERATION OF, UM D TWO AND D THREE. BUT I DO WANT TO CONCUR WITH MR GARCIA THAT, UM YOU KNOW, NOT NOT SPECIFIC DETAILS TO EVERY ITEM AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO COMBAT THE INFLATION PROBLEM. UM SO WE CAN GET ALL OF OUR PROJECTS DONE, BUT I DO SUPPORT HIS ASK ABOUT A PLAN. UM AND I KNOW THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A SPECIAL BOARD SESSION. UM AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PROJECTS. BUT MAYBE IF WE COULD TAKE YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO SAY. OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE FIRST. QUARTER OF OUR PROJECT TIMELINE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I DO. I DO APPRECIATE HIM ASKING FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HANNAN. SO UM, BEFORE I ASK THE QUESTIONS, GARCIA, CAN YOU CAN YOU CONFIRM AT THIS MOMENT? BECAUSE I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADER. THE DISCUSSION. CAN YOU CONFIRM YOUR POSITION AT THIS MOMENT, SO I AM. I'M OKAY WITH APPROVING THIS ITEM, AS IS MY, MY, MY UM, REQUESTS WERE THAT WE GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE PLAN, UM, MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE PLAN TO REMEDIATE THAT WE GET OVER BUDGET ITEMS COMING IN, AS THEY'RE REPORTED TO YOU GUYS, WE JUST WE JUST HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING. UM AT LEAST TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN TO THE FULL BOARD AND THEN 11. OTHER ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT THAT I HAVE THAT I CAN I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU IS UM, WHAT ARE WE PICKING MONEY FROM OTHER PROJECTS TO FUND THE OVER EDGES ON THESE PROJECTS ON THIS PROJECT, OR AND D D V, D THREE AND D FOUR. FOR D TWO AND D THREE. NO WE ARE NOT DOING THAT AS A PART OF THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON THIS ONE ARE COMING FROM A CATEGORY WE CALLED IT. SPACE PLANNING AND LOGISTICS, I THINK OR SOMETHING, AND IT TURNS OUT WE WILL NOT NEED THOSE SERVICES. AS WE INITIALLY ANTICIPATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'M OKAY WITH IMPROVING THIS. THANK YOU, MR GARCIA. SO UM, I'M GONNA JUST PRESIDENT IF MR GARCIA HAS RECONSIDERED HIS MOTION. WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS HE CAN REQUEST TO WITHDRAW IT WOULD ASK THE REST OF THE BOARD FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO ALLOW HIM

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TO WITHDRAW. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WOULD YOU RATHER WOULD YOU WILLING TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION PRESIDENT LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION? I DON'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS, SO THE MOTION IS STRONG. SO WE ARE GOING TO EVEN WITH VOTES WERE GOING TO VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. WE SEIZE APPROVED THE ITEM AS PRESENTED, BUT BEFORE WE VOTE UH, I JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW COMMENTS. I'VE BEEN WRITING DOWN SO I WILL BE BRAVE. UM I REALLY I APPRECIATE DURING THIS DISCUSSION, WE I THINK AS A BORDER WAY, UNDERSTAND. THE STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN. TRY TO REDUCE THE COST. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. SO IF SOMEONE CAN PROVIDE A LIST, THE BIG ITEM UM LIKE, HOW DID YOU MANAGE THIS PROJECT TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET? I THINK THE BORDER WILL APPRECIATE THAT TO SEE THE TO SEE THE LIST. UM AND I WOULD ASK HIM IF SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THIS HAPPEN. NING. UM PLEASE PROVIDE INFORMATION AHEAD OF THE MEETING, SO THAT WILL HELP US TO UNDERSTAND IT. THAT'S THE ASK SECOND. UM I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF MY FRUSTRATION DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO THE SCHOOL TO OPEN ON TIME. I THINK IT SEEMS THAT THE FIRST TIME WE HAD A DISCUSSION REGARDING C M A. R. AH, UM HMM.

I HAD A CONCERN BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID THE TIMELINE WAS VERY AMBITIOUS. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING. MY FRUSTRATION IS A LOT OF TIMES THIS ITEM BROUGHT TO THE BOARD. AND THEN WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. IF WE DON'T IT MEANS DELAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE OF COURSE I DON'T DO THE JOB. BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT? LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY, GIVE US SOME KIND OF WIGGLING ROOM SAYING, OKAY, YOU FOR THE BORDER HAS A QUESTION LIKE MR GARCIA. HE'S BEEN VERY REASONABLE TODAY IF HE'S ASKING TO DELAY FOR MONTHS. AND ENDED WITH THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE ANSWER SAYING YES, IT'S OKAY IF YOU APPROVE NEXT MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK FROM BOTH ENDS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE ONE MR GUAN SAID. $1.26 BILLION BONDS. UM, IF WE OVER BUDGET THIS TOTAL AMOUNT WE NEED TO CANCEL, OR, UM SOME CERTAIN PROJECTS. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE DOING IT NOW. I'M JUST SAYING THAT PROBABLY THE CONSEQUENCES. BUT IF THAT'S BECAME A POSSIBILITY, I'M GOING TO ASK A BIG ASK PLEASE. PLEASE GIVE THE BOARD HAS UP SAYING OKAY, THIS IS GONNA PRAY YES, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S BIG IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT TO EVERYONE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND UH, LET'S VOTE JUST REMINDING REMINDER OF THE CITY'S VOTING ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR THE DISCUSSION THAT'S WELL. MOTION PASSES. FIVE TO UM, CAN I

[12.D.3. Construction Manager at Risk Guaranteed Maximum Price Phase #2 for the Rebuild of Mission Bend ES: Consideration and approval of a Guaranteed Maximum Price (GMP) Phase #2 for the remainder of construction of Mission Bend Elementary School Rebuild (BP002), for an amount of $40,006,685 and authorization for the Superintendent to execute the GMP Phase #2.]

HAVE A MOTION FOR THE 12 D THREE D LIVE, MOVED TO APPROVE A CONSENT AGENDA. 12 D THREE, AS PRESENTED SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY DR GILLIAM SECOND BY MS HAN. AND DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? MR GARCIA? NO OKAY. OH OKAY. I'LL CLEAR. OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM? I THINK THIS I DON'T KNOW WAS VERY RELATED TO THE OTHER ONE, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN MOVE ON. OKAY? THANK YOU. THAT'S VOTE. MOTION PASSES 61. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE. MM HMM. HOLD ON SOON AS I FIND MY AGENDA. SO CLOSE SESSION SO NEXT

[13. Convene in closed session]

THE BORDER GOING INTO THE CLOSE SESSION. WE WILL NOW CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION UNDER TAXES. OPEN

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MEETING ACT, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CALLED TRIBUTARY 551. UNDER THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS SECTION 551071 FOR THE PURPOSE OF A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH THE BORDER ATTORNEY ON ANY OR ALL SUBJECTS OR MATTERS AUTHORIZED BY LAW SECTION 551072 CAN SEE THEIR PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE.

OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY SECTION 551074 PERSONNEL MATTER SECTION 551076 SECURITY MATTERS SECTION 551082 STUDENT DISCIPLINE MATTER OR COMPLAINT SECTION 55108 21 PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS. THE TIME

[14. Reconvene in Open Session]

OKAY THE TIME IS NOW 1056 PM AND WE ARE NOT CONVICT. WE RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION. DO WE HAVE ONLY ICE ACTION ITEMS FROM CLOTHES SESSION? YES I MOVED THAT. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EXCEPT THE HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE STUDENT BULLYING TRANSFER OF A E. A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. THAT MEANS HAINAN SECOND BY MS MALONE. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NOW LET'S VOTE. MOTION PASSES 70. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION FROM CLOSED SESSION? YES I MOVED. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL FOR BY THE STEPHEN F. AUSTIN SCHOOL. SENIOR NJ ROTC CADETS TO TRAVEL TO COZUMEL, MEXICO IN APRIL 2024 2ND. OH, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE.

SORRY THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT A CLOSED SESSION ITEM. SO DO I HAVE ANOTHER CLOSE SESSION ITEM? YES MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EXCEPT THE HEARING OFFICER'S RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING THE LEVEL THREE F N G GRIEVANCE OF HOLLY IN SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR HAMILTON'S SECOND BY MS MALONE. DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION? SEEING NOW LET'S VOTE. MOTION PASSES 70. DR GILLIAM. I'M SORRY I TRICKED YOU. THAT WAS NOT A CLOSED SESSION ACTION, BUT NOW IT'S

[16.A. International Student Travel: Consideration and approval of international travel by the Stephen F. Austin High School NJROTC cadets to travel to Cozumel, Mexico aboard Carnival Cruise Line to experience aspects of shipboard life.]

YOUR TURN TO MAKE THE MOTION, PLEASE. PLEASE THANK YOU. DR GILLIAM ME ADVANCE MOVE. THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL BY THE STEPHEN F. AUSTIN HIGH SCHOOL.

SENIOR NJ ROTC CADETS TO TRAVEL TO CAUSE NORMAL MEXICO IN APRIL 2024 AND I SECOND. THE MOTION BY DR GILLIAM SECOND BY MS MALONE. I APPRECIATE YOUR DOCTOR. GIVE HIM THANK YOU. I DO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION. EVERYONE TRAVEL SAFELY AND LET'S VOTE. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THEY HADN'T NEEDED ANY SHIP. OKAY MR JONES. SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I DEFINITELY USE LIKE AHEAD OF YOU ON THE LIST. I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT AND I THINK I HAVE THE LIST. I ALREADY SENT OVER THERE. UM YEAH . SO YES. OKAY. SO DOCTOR, DR SMITH, IS THAT THAT VERY TOP, UM AND THEN A DOCTOR GILLIAM. DR GILLIAM IS A SECOND. OKAY ALRIGHT. SORRY. LET'S VOTE. VOTE WE NEED TO VOTE RIGHT ON YOU. OH, REALLY? MOTION PASSES SEVEN WHOLE. ALL STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND PARENTS TRAVEL SAFELY AND I NEED A MOTION TO LARGER AND THE TIME IS 11 P.M. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. GOODNIGHT EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jan 22, 2024 Board Meeting

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